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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: natural al on July 29, 2006, 02:23:25 PM
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I've been doing DC training for awhile, well I did it pretty hardcore back in July of 2004 and went from 194-211 in about 6 weeks, best gains I've had in along time. We got some very bad news and I had to stop training real hard, I still did DC but my mind and soul werent really into it.
Anyway, I was about 3 weeks into my current blast and I got hit with Diverticulitus-lets just call it a stomach infection, so I spent the first part of last week in the hospital but I'm doing ok and might start training again this week on Monday.
I'm about 5'7" or 5'8" tall...don't really know, lets just say I know I'm not tall and don't have a problem with it and I weigh about 205 right now. My BF is about 12%, maybe a little higher. I guess I'm pretty strong, I don't lie on my lifts so what I type is what I can move, if I do any special modifications to a movement I'll explain them for instance I hurt my shoulder wrestling in high school so when I do smith machine military presses I can use a ton of weight but I only lower the bar to my nose anything else and I'm hurting for a few days. I'm experimenting with some new movements because I'm working out at powerhouse right now so I hve access to alot of new equipment. I was at the local rec center before. Here's an example of one of my workouts:
flat dumbbell press-120*14 RP
seated DB press-90*15 RP
machine dip-220*17
Front pulldown-210*18
t-bar-190*4
135*10
I had more problems getting the dB's into position for the DB pressing movements-no spotter. Stretches after every movement, statics when I could do them. The powerhouse I go to only goes up to the 130's so I'll outgrow them soon enough....
I was thinking of doing a journal...what do you guys think?
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I think its a great idea. Hope you're better now and hope we can burry our past "diferences". ;D
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I think its a great idea. Hope you're better now and hope we can burry our past "diferences". ;D
well, I wouldn't say "better"..I'm still in a little pain and on alot of antibiotics...my diet will suck for the next 3 weeks until I go back for a checkup. I'm on "no" fiber so I have to eat some things that I don't usaully eat like white bread which is shitty for cutting fat.
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well, I wouldn't say "better"..I'm still in a little pain and on alot of antibiotics...my diet will suck for the next 3 weeks until I go back for a checkup. I'm on "no" fiber so I have to eat some things that I don't usaully eat like white bread which is shitty for cutting fat.
isn't that were your stomach messes up and you have to use a shit-bag if so sorry to hear that bro my aunt just got over it so i know were your coming from she had to have emergency surgery and had a open wound for weeks it was a real pain in the ass(no pun intended)
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isn't that were your stomach messes up and you have to use a shit-bag if so sorry to hear that bro my aunt just got over it so i know were your coming from she had to have emergency surgery and had a open wound for weeks it was a real pain in the ass(no pun intended)
that's really extreme. I have a very, very, very mild case. The doctores say that if I follow the diet they describe which is high fiber, no popcorn, corn, nuts or seeds I'll be fine.
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that's really extreme. I have a very, very, very mild case. The doctores say that if I follow the diet they describe which is high fiber, no popcorn, corn, nuts or seeds I'll be fine.
she has to follow that same diet for the rest of her life
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she has to follow that same diet for the rest of her life
ditto on that one. I can't eat as much red meat as before either. As long as I follow the diet which should not be a problem and stay pretty stress free I'll be fine.
I'm still debating wether or not I'm gonna hit the weights today or not. I've only been out of the hospital for a few days but I feel "OK" so maybe....
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Today was my first day back, I knew it was gonna be rough, some of my reps went down a little but I'm not worried, if I don't crush them next time, I'll rotate in a new movement. It's very hot, about 95 and I wanted to take it a little easy because of my "illness" so I cut it a little short. I don't want to end up in the hospital again so where I would usually just say screw it and continue today I listened to what my body had to say.
I probably weighed about 203 this morning. I'm eating clean again but very low fiber and I have to eat white bread so that's a bummer.
anyway this is what i did:
Incline DB Press: 120*8-actually this was a straight set, I went to do my second RP and I couldn't budge them, I gave it a good try...last workout I got 10, it went something like 6*3*1 so I was on my way to beating it but I'll just rack this one up as being a little weak from last week.
Smith Machine Military Press: 275*15-to my nose, plus a 15 second static and 30 second stretch.
"Power" pushdowns: 140*15-I came up with these myself...kinda hard to explain but my body mechanics are nothing like a regular pushdown. I also did a stretch with 60lbs DB for 30 seconds.
Underhand Hammer Machine Pulldown:115*12-one arm at a time, both with statics at the end, my left arm did better than my right which was a little wierd. 45 second stretch.
That was it, I had some hammer rows to do but I didn't think it was worth it just yet. I should be back on track by the end of the week.
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Your supposed to stretch for 60 seconds! ;)
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Your supposed to stretch for 60 seconds! ;)
nahhh, you can do anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds..I pretty much stretch for all I'm worth so I don't know if I could even get to 60 on some things. I was shaking pretty bad on the chest and tri stretch...I don't think I could have gotten 60 seconds..I've tried 60 before and it seemed like I didn't really get anything out of it. I'll re-check the dog logg tonight and if it says 60, I'll do 60!
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Smith Machine Pulldowns? ???
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Smith Machine Pulldowns? ???
Sorry, I meant Hammer..I changed it.
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did 45 mins of cardio today...it's like 99 degrees outside and Powerhouse does not believe in air conditioning....I don't get it, how f'n hot does it have to be before they'll turn on the GD air?
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did 45 mins of cardio today...it's like 99 degrees outside and Powerhouse does not believe in air conditioning....I don't get it, how f'n hot does it have to be before they'll turn on the GD air?
Quit your bitchin lol! take it like a man! Arnold trained in bellow zero environments.
I did cardio for an hour today and get a crazy pump. :)
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i'd follow it from time to time :)
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well here's what I did today, still no f'n air, I didn't try to crush what I did last workout but just tried to stay on track, I'm still not feeling 100% and the diet isn't helping but I gave it a go anyway.
Dumbbell curls-65*11RP-I kinda died out at the end which was wierd, I was shooting for 13 but I got what I had last workout so that was ok, like I said I still don't feel 100%. Did a 27 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Hammer curls-65*18RP with my left arm
65*21RP with my right arm-actually used more weight than last workout so that was good.
seated calf-155*10-brutal, done in DC fashion. Got the same number of reps as last workout so I didn't loose any ground. Did 30 partials at the end, not really a dc tactic but I tried it and liked it so I'm gonna do it.
Leg Press-855*5-I should have done a widowmakeer but I was really feeling shitty by now, I'll pick it up again next time. 30 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Sumo Leg Press-405*15 Straight set, 30 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Overall it was a good workout all things considered.
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well here's what I did today, still no f'n air, I didn't try to crush what I did last workout but just tried to stay on track, I'm still not feeling 100% and the diet isn't helping but I gave it a go anyway.
Dumbbell curls-65*11RP-I kinda died out at the end which was wierd, I was shooting for 13 but I got what I had last workout so that was ok, like I said I still don't feel 100%. Did a 27 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Hammer curls-65*18RP with my left arm
65*21RP with my right arm-actually used more weight than last workout so that was good.
seated calf-155*10-brutal, done in DC fashion. Got the same number of reps as last workout so I didn't loose any ground. Did 30 partials at the end, not really a dc tactic but I tried it and liked it so I'm gonna do it.
Leg Press-855*5-I should have done a widowmakeer but I was really feeling shitty by now, I'll pick it up again next time. 30 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Sumo Leg Press-405*15 Straight set, 30 count static and a 60 count stretch.
Overall it was a good workout all things considered.
A workout fit for a woman.
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A workout fit for a woman.
and here I've been trying to be nice to you. What excactly is womenlike about the workout, keep in mind I just got out of the hospital a week ago.
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and here I've been trying to be nice to you. What excactly is womenlike about the workout, keep in mind I just got out of the hospital a week ago.
You keep on making excuses why you can't do this.. why you can't do that all the bitchin is womanlike is all.
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You keep on making excuses why you can't do this.. why you can't do that all the bitchin is womanlike is all.
whatever. I hope you never have to go through what I did last week and what I'm still dealing with. You wanna be a little bitch again go ahead. Simple fact of the matter is you got nothing I can't handle, in the gym or on the street and here I gave you f'n training advice and you go back to being a bitch. FUCK OFF.
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whatever. I hope you never have to go through what I did last week and what I'm still dealing with. You wanna be a little bitch again go ahead. Simple fact of the matter is you got nothing I can't handle, in the gym or on the street and here I gave you f'n training advice and you go back to being a bitch. f**k OFF.
How about I give you some training advice.. lift big and stop bitching!
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How about I give you some training advice.. lift big and stop bitching!
what am I not lifting heavy on? 65lbs DB curls is pretty heavy, 855 lbs leg press is pretty heavy....I wiegh under 200 cause of the diet they put me on..I've lost about 8lbs in a week. Where do you think I'm weak? In all honesty I probably shouldn't even be training but I love doing it so that's why I'm in the gym. I think I'm doing well, that's all that really matters. You need to understand that being strong is relative, I'm stronger than alot of guys I know but I might not be strong compared to another set of guys. If I keep progressing that's all that really matters.
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what am I not lifting heavy on? 65lbs DB curls is pretty heavy, 855 lbs leg press is pretty heavy....I wiegh under 200 cause of the diet they put me on..I've lost about 8lbs in a week. Where do you think I'm weak? In all honesty I probably shouldn't even be training but I love doing it so that's why I'm in the gym. I think I'm doing well, that's all that really matters. You need to understand that being strong is relative, I'm stronger than alot of guys I know but I might not be strong compared to another set of guys. If I keep progressing that's all that really matters.
Its depressing reading your excuses thats all.. keep up the good work.
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Its depressing reading your excuses thats all.. keep up the good work.
they're not meant to be excuses. Life isn't all peaches and cream and sometimes you have to deal with things that might screw up your training. I want this to be a "real" depiction of what I do in the gym. I could lie and say "I curled the 65's 15 times today" but I didn't. Did I fail due to my problems last week? Maybe, maybe not. I think I did. It's very rare that I don't beat my logbook. I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. Maybe I'm holding back subconciously, I don't know. I know I still worked pretty f'n hard this week and I feel good about what I accomplished so far. Now next time I hit this workout and if I fail then I'll start to worry.
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A workout fit for a woman.
LOL.
Alex, even a mild case of Diverticulitus is nasty business. Al isn't "excusing" himself of anything!
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Overall it was a good workout all things considered.
Yeah, definitely -- real horrorshow :) But until you're better, you might consider cruising, Al. Ounce of prevention and all that.
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"...real horrorshow''. Wow...I havent heard vernacular like that since I read 'A ClockWork Orange'. Interesting...
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Yeah, definitely -- real horrorshow :) But until you're better, you might consider cruising, Al. Ounce of prevention and all that.
Thanks for your concern. The case that I have is, and I quote "not very bad at all" I asked if I could start lifting again and the doctors said it would not be a problem because nothing is torn. I was on bedrest for 4 days, worked one day and rested again for 2 more. I felt ok on Monday when I trained, the fact that I didn't beat the logbook is probably more to do with the time off than any lingering side effects. Trust me, if I felt shitty or had an ounce of pain in my side I would not have done anything for the rest of the week. the main thing I need to focus on is watching my diet, which isn't all that hard, I just have to eat foods with virtually no fiber in them for about 3 weeks, get tested and then I'm on a high fiber diet, which the doctors told me was as simple as adding some wheat germ to a protien shake.
Anyway, I did 45mins of cardio yesturday and plan on training today at lunch, I forgot some of my food so that blows. Instead of having my second meal, which should have been scrambled eggs and a yogurt-which I have to eat to "coat" my stomach and make digestion easier I had to have 3 breakfast burrito's from mcdonalds...well I didn't have to have them but I have to be at work early and I was running late so this is what I had.
training info to come later which will be interesting because last time I did this workout I flat DB pressed the 120's 14 times rest paused and when I lifted them on Monday for my inclines they felt like they weighed about 150lbs so It'll be intersting to see if I can at least equal my total from last time. I would feel alot more comfortable training with the 115's right now as I had to make the jump from 110 to 120 and the 120's feel a little awkward to me right now but life isn't perfect so I'll have to make due, maybe this is a good thing cause no way in hell could I do the 120's 14 times a couple of months ago so I know I'm getting stronger.
EDIT: Here's how it went:
Flat DB Press-120*13RP with a 20 second static-while trying to start 14th rep-and a 60 second stretch with the 70's. I noticed my body mechanics were off while kicking the dumbbells into position, my left leg isn't getting high enough so not only am I trying to lift the weights up for that first rep I'm fighting to get the DB's into position. Seems like maybe the DB work is more trouble than it's worth, if I can't correct it and beat the book next workout I'm dropping them.
Seated DB Press-95*9RP no static cause I failed trying to get #10 and couldn't get going again, I did a 60 second stretch, again maybe DB's arent the best choice for this style of training, I have not had access to them in a long time, heavy ones that is and maybe I got over excited and tried to use them.
seated machine dip-215*17RP, 30 second stetch with a 65lbs DB-beat my reps and weight from last time.
T-Bar rows-190*5
135*10
I switched the order of my back movements because the guy using the PD machine I wanted to use just won the LHW at the masters nationals, he's getting ready for the north america's and I ain't asking him if I could work in.
Pulldowns-215*15RP-no problems here, beat my weight, 15 second static and 45 second stretch.
overall a good workout, next week should start to get fun cause I should be back at 100%, I'm having a little trouble with hack squats cause they are a new movement but other than that I should be back to ass kicking.
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yesturday I did this:
BB curls with the "arm blaster"-90*13RP
Reverse Cable curl (one arm)-45*19 Left arm
45*23 Right arm
Donkey Calf Raise-350*15
40 Partials
Leg Extentions-175*18RP
45 reps on the leg press with 315, nice slow negative and explosive positive.
Hammer Single Leg Curl-95*18RP Left
95*20RP Right
Statics on BB curls, Leg Extentions and Leg curls, stretches after everything when applicable. I chose to do leg extentions instead of hack squats for awhile because my low back is trashed, I've either got a disk problem or a siatic nerve problem.
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yesturday I did this:
BB curls with the "arm blaster"-90*13RP
Reverse Cable curl (one arm)-45*19 Left arm
45*23 Right arm
Donkey Calf Raise-350*15
40 Partials
Leg Extentions-175*18RP
45 reps on the leg press with 315, nice slow negative and explosive positive.
Hammer Single Leg Curl-95*18RP Left
95*20RP Right
Statics on BB curls, Leg Extentions and Leg curls, stretches after everything when applicable. I chose to do leg extentions instead of hack squats for awhile because my low back is trashed, I've either got a disk problem or a siatic nerve problem.
You really did donkey calf raises with 350 pounds x 15 with 5 second negatives and 15 second stretch at the bottom??
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You really did donkey calf raises with 350 pounds x 15 with 5 second negatives and 15 second stretch at the bottom??
yup. Legs were shaking like a leaf and I had sweat pouring off of me. Even when i was not training as hard as I could last year I always pushed my calf training as far as I could. I've never really had great calves so once I noticed that this was working I ran with it. They're over 17" now...probably about 17 and a 1/2 and I love training them.
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Today,
Icarian Chest Press: 125*14RP
Icarian Shoulder Press-120*15RP
Reverse Grip Pushdowns-135*17RP
Hammer Behind the Neck Pulldown-125*RP-each arm
Barbell Row-225*4
185*9
statics and stretches done on pretty much everything. The Icarian machines are really wierd, first time I've used them was in this blast and the range of motion is really wierd. You move the weight more in an arc than just a straight up and down press and start the movement really low that's why the weight is so light. I think they work pretty good and I'm progressing in wieght but it's a little shot to the ego when you go from 120lbs dumbbells to 125 lbs total. 30lbs jump in my Barbell row so that's good. Cardio tonight...I hope.
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last one....unless something wierd happens, doesn't seeem to be alot of interest..oh, well.
Bi's-Hammer Preacher Curls-110*11RP
Forearms-Hammer grip machine-135*28RP
Calfs-Calf Sled-385*12
28 Partials
V-squat-405*8
Widowmaker-425*23 on the leg press
Hamstrings-140*16
I overshot the weight on the preacher curls a couple of workouts ago but I want stick with this, don't know why, I would reccommend lightening the weight so you can get at least 12 to anyone else but I really want to crush this weight. I also want to note that I'm doing the V-squat machine to spare my lower back and this is the most I've ever done on it so that's cool. Lots of machines today...never really realized it until now. statics and stretches as needed. Awsome WO.
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no offence but i find nothing more boring than reading what peoples workouts were like... :-\ why dont ya just say that its coming along well or its a waste of time :)
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no offence but i find nothing more boring than reading what peoples workouts were like... :-\ why dont ya just say that its coming along well or its a waste of time :)
Don't listen to this fool Al! I find it very interesting especially the progress and what kind the kind of gains you make.
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Just saying what i thought dude :) least ya keepin mass monster alexx happy ;)
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Just saying what i thought dude :) least ya keepin mass monster alexx happy ;)
It just makes my day when I see them young guns slacking off. ;D
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Just to keep Alexxx happy.
Hammer Incline-290*12RP
Military Press-275*9RP
Weighted Dips-45*14RP
reverse Grip Hammer PD's-225*16RP
Hammer Rows-235*5-6
180*8-10
Tried 2 new movements, hammer inclines instead of DB presses and weighted dips. I used to love doing dips but have not done them in years so they were a little awkward. I'm gonna probably drop the military press, I degressed from last week, one more shot and if I don't totally crush them they're gone, maybe I just had an off day or maybe my shoulders worked a little on the hammer inclines? statics and stretches on everything except tri's-no static. I did a hang with a 45 around my waist for my lat stretch, held it for a minute and a half, next time I'm gonna go for 2 minutes. Good WO but nothing special.
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NO
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NO
then ignore it, it ain't for you.