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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: JamieX4200 on July 31, 2006, 12:02:50 AM
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want to delete that shit thread "hulkster i'm calling for a truce"..
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narc. and hulkster should also be deleted.
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narc. and hulkster should also be deleted.
Agreed
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Why would you want to censor a legitimate debate. You might have a concrete opinion one way or another (most likely pro Ron, I agree that many times he has been shown to be the better) but as long as the people involved in it are happy to continue thats all that matters.
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Why would you want to censor a legitimate debate. You might have a concrete opinion one way or another (most likely pro Ron, I agree that many times he has been shown to be the better) but as long as the people involved in it are happy to continue thats all that matters.
Its no longer a debate.
Its merely the same 30-40 recycled pictures with slightly reworded arguments...
...reiterated endlessly over the course of nearly 300 pages.
Bottomline. Its post-whoring since the debate has no direction.
Its been the same 8-10 people whining incoherently since page 50.
When there is virtually no difference b/w page 100 and page 300, its time to shut it down.
2 people wouldn't be entitled to a thread where they repeat the same sentence verbatim...
...so I don't see why 10 people should be entitled to a thread where they upload the same boring pictures and type the same tired arguments with a few cosmetic revisions.
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Agreed
Totally Agreed
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Its no longer a debate.
Its merely the same 30-40 recycled pictures with slightly reworded arguments...
...reiterated endlessly over the course of nearly 300 pages.
Bottomline. Its post-whoring since the debate has no direction.
Its been the same 8-10 people whining incoherently since page 50.
When there is virtually no difference b/w page 100 and page 300, its time to shut it down.
2 people wouldn't be entitled to a thread where they repeat the same sentence verbatim...
...so I don't see why 10 people should be entitled to a thread where they upload the same boring pictures and type the same tired arguments with a few cosmetic revisions.
Like I say, I agree the argument is "done" in the sense that most of us agree that Ron wins no question but if they want to continue to convince each other let them. No big deal.
You can't call the depth of what they are posting postwhoring. One line posts with no substance are postwhoring. Even if they are reworded (which I disagree somewhat, they are tryinig different angles) they are actively involved in trying to convince each other.
There are people with over 5000 posts who have been here for less than 6 months and they've never posted anything with the substance of any of the posts on that thread.
I see your point but I disagree with your solution. This debate always comes up on the board, there is no harm in leaving it to one thread. The thread will die when they get bored of it (I admit, that has been unbelievably slow to happen).
If you are sick of it, leave it.. don't go in. I don't read it more than once in a blue moon. It really is strange to me that you would advocate the closing down of any ardent discussion.
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Ah the sheer irony if this thread reaches any velocity. Imagine a 300 page thread about the 300 page thread.
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i do
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me to
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+1
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Like I say, I agree the argument is "done" in the sense that most of us agree that Ron wins no question but if they want to continue to convince each other let them. No big deal.
None of the 10-12 in the thread will be swayed ... their minds are already made up.
Few outsiders even bother to browse the thread anymore, and those that do only do so occasionally.
So they aren't "convincing" one another or even making the slighest effort to.
They are simply posting the same tired arguments, under the mistaken impression that persistence and volume are the only two variables of importance.
You can't call the depth of what they are posting postwhoring. One line posts with no substance are postwhoring. Even if they are reworded (which I disagree somewhat, they are tryinig different angles) they are actively involved in trying to convince each other.
So basically what you're saying is, if I wrote a profound intellectual paragraph, I would be entitled to repeatedly post it in the same thread, provided I make some minor changes in structure and syntax??
The actual merit of their content is irrelevant. The term "whoring" inherently implies excess.
What I'm saying is, yes, some of the arguments are very compelling, but they only need to be stated a handful of times, not 100+ times.
There are people with over 5000 posts who have been here for less than 6 months and they've never posted anything with the substance of any of the posts on that thread.
This is a separate subject. You are referring to the overall contribution of a member.
I'm referring to the posts of established veteran members within a single thread.
Its perfectly possible for a well respected member to post-whore, just as its perfect feasible for a complete troll to occasionally exhibit cogency.
Obviously ND & Hulkster are honored veterans. That still doesn't change the fact that the truce thread is utterly stupid, it has absolutely NO direction, indistinguishable content from page to page, the same tired arguments reworded and restructured, an incredibly small archive of boring unrepresentative pictures (it makes zero sense for one side to simply post pictures of the opposing athlete at his worst and their champion at his best - its stupid and counterproductive), etc.
Veteran members maintaining a lame thread is no better than trolls polluting a quality thread.
Both cases should be addressed by a moderator, for the sake of browsers and members.
I see your point but I disagree with your solution. This debate always comes up on the board, there is no harm in leaving it to one thread. The thread will die when they get bored of it (I admit, that has been unbelievably slow to happen).
Obviously everybody in that thread is bored out of their f*cking mind!
That isn't the point ... its a matter of pride and hero worship.
The 10-12 are quite active and evidently have nothing better to do.
The thread will proceed indefinitely unless a moderator interjects.
As history has shown, the Yates vs. Coleman debate is far from "contained".
It still infects unrelated threads on a consistent basis, and the instigators are the same perpetrators responsible for sustaining the infamous truce thread.
If you are sick of it, leave it.. don't go in. I don't read it more than once in a blue moon. It really is strange to me that you would advocate the closing down of any ardent discussion.
I was an active contributor for 150 pages or so. I got sick of it, and I left. Simple enough.
You must recognize rocket, in that thread, only 1-2 members of the opposition bothered to read my posts in their entirety (primarily suckmymuscle). The others simply replied with their original, generic defense that was not tailored to my specific objections and gave no indication that they took my words into consideration.
That isn't discussion. Its simply stubborn refusal to concede any points. A discussion implies point -> counter-point, thesis -> rebuttal, etc ... a back & forth dialogue. This rarely takes place in that thread. ND fails to address Hulkster's identification of Dorian's weaknesses. ND isolates Ronnie's minor flaws each and every post, whether or not such observations are actually warranted or for that matter relevant.
In order for a thread to remain on the board, esp. the Gossip & Opinions Board, the hallmark of GetBig, the content should remain relatively fresh. I'm sorry, as I said previously, if there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between page 50 and page 350, its time for the thread to die.
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anyone else?
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This thread will end up being 300 pages. ;D
Its 303 now and growing. :'(
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Yup. Delete it.
They should just agree to disagree.
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I think this thread needs to be deleted 8)
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I think this thread needs to be deleted 8)
hahaha even hulkset agrees!
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i think it's a good thread. they stick to that and leaves the rest of the board alone. and we're rid of them.
a win win situation.
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I agree...the thread title is really sore on the eyes. It's old and overplayed out. I would like to see it removed.
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i think it's a good thread. they stick to that and leaves the rest of the board alone. and we're rid of them.
a win win situation.
Not if you've already posted and have lost the page where you posted to delete your own threads and now everythime I click Show new replies to your posts.... boom! here it comes out of nowhere everysingle time. I am scared of clicking that button now.
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Get rid of it!
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the 2 schmoes should start their own page.
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it will never die 8)
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None of the 10-12 in the thread will be swayed ... their minds are already made up.
Few outsiders even bother to browse the thread anymore, and those that do only do so occasionally.
So they aren't "convincing" one another or even making the slighest effort to.
They are simply posting the same tired arguments, under the mistaken impression that persistence and volume are the only two variables of importance.
So basically what you're saying is, if I wrote a profound intellectual paragraph, I would be entitled to repeatedly post it in the same thread, provided I make some minor changes in structure and syntax??
The actual merit of their content is irrelevant. The term "whoring" inherently implies excess.
What I'm saying is, yes, some of the arguments are very compelling, but they only need to be stated a handful of times, not 100+ times.
This is a separate subject. You are referring to the overall contribution of a member.
I'm referring to the posts of established veteran members within a single thread.
Its perfectly possible for a well respected member to post-whore, just as its perfect feasible for a complete troll to occasionally exhibit cogency.
Obviously ND & Hulkster are honored veterans. That still doesn't change the fact that the truce thread is utterly stupid, it has absolutely NO direction, indistinguishable content from page to page, the same tired arguments reworded and restructured, an incredibly small archive of boring unrepresentative pictures (it makes zero sense for one side to simply post pictures of the opposing athlete at his worst and their champion at his best - its stupid and counterproductive), etc.
Veteran members maintaining a lame thread is no better than trolls polluting a quality thread.
Both cases should be addressed by a moderator, for the sake of browsers and members.
Obviously everybody in that thread is bored out of their f*cking mind!
That isn't the point ... its a matter of pride and hero worship.
The 10-12 are quite active and evidently have nothing better to do.
The thread will proceed indefinitely unless a moderator interjects.
As history has shown, the Yates vs. Coleman debate is far from "contained".
It still infects unrelated threads on a consistent basis, and the instigators are the same perpetrators responsible for sustaining the infamous truce thread.
I was an active contributor for 150 pages or so. I got sick of it, and I left. Simple enough.
You must recognize rocket, in that thread, only 1-2 members of the opposition bothered to read my posts in their entirety (primarily suckmymuscle). The others simply replied with their original, generic defense that was not tailored to my specific objections and gave no indication that they took my words into consideration.
That isn't discussion. Its simply stubborn refusal to concede any points. A discussion implies point -> counter-point, thesis -> rebuttal, etc ... a back & forth dialogue. This rarely takes place in that thread. ND fails to address Hulkster's identification of Dorian's weaknesses. ND isolates Ronnie's minor flaws each and every post, whether or not such observations are actually warranted or for that matter relevant.
In order for a thread to remain on the board, esp. the Gossip & Opinions Board, the hallmark of GetBig, the content should remain relatively fresh. I'm sorry, as I said previously, if there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between page 50 and page 350, its time for the thread to die.
Your 100% correct !
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KILL IT! ;D
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yeah somebody started another thread about deleting it.