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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: whateva on August 03, 2006, 06:26:56 PM
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both lifetime naturals
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wow, very very similar.
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Great physique on both.
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both lifetime naturals
No, not even hard core ironagers believe Reg Park was drug free
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That's an early pic of reg. He put on more size.
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No, not even hard core ironagers believe Reg Park was drug free
I guess ,I won then :D
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http://bebodybuilding.com/magazine/Reg-Park-s-1951-Mr-Universe-Workout/
Reg Park's 1951 Mr. Universe Workout
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Saturday, 24 June 2006
Do you want the famous workout routine that won Reg Park Mr. Universe in 1951?
This is the same workout that Reg Park trained with to win the 1951 Mr. Universe title. He won Mr. Universe again in 1958, becoming the first to win the prestigious event twice. Park, who later went on to replace Steve Reeves as Hercules in the mid sixties, gained 25 pounds of muscle on an already solid frame in 10 months with this program.
Reg trained three days a week on this routine. He ate 3-4 meals per day and had a protein drink that was made up of milk, cream and honey, which he drank six times a day. Proof that you don't need to buy expensive supplements.
Grab any photo of Reg Park and you’ll see what can be done with hard work and determination. Remember, Park was a pre-steroid bodybuilder, all natural. And to me he looks a lot better and more powerful than the drug induced bodybuilders of today. The Reg Park Classic 1951 Workout
Squats 5 x 10
Bench Press 5 x 10
Weighted Dips 5 x 12
Barbell Curls 5 x 10
French Presses 5 x 10
Chins 5 x 10
Donkey Raises 5 sets
Abs 5 sets
Notes: There was no rep scheme for his abs and calves, he'd work them until they had enough. Park, like all the old timers, lifted heavy weights and didn't use many isolation exercises in his routine. If you decide to follow this program and feel wiped out on three days a week, knock it down to two. Park had exceptional genetics and recovery ability that most don’t have.
Understand that to be successful in any weight training program - hard work is a must! Half-hearted effort does nothing for you. If you're new to weight training or grossly out of shape, consult a physician first and get on a beginners program. End of disclaimer.
Brian Carson is a writer and workout enthusiast who write and edits the Workout Routine blog, the site devoted to workout routines by bodybuilders, powerlifters, strength trainers and strongmen from the past to the present.Visit us at http://workout-routines.blogspot.com/.
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Reg wasn't natural... bber's have used test way before CIBA brought out dianabol around 1960 or so.
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Park...gained 25 pounds of muscle on an already solid frame in 10 months with this program.
Reg trained three days a week on this routine. He ate 3-4 meals per day and had a protein drink that was made up of milk, cream and honey, which he drank six times a day.
I rest my case.
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I thought this was 'Whateva' ???
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=80820.0
The first time I read this thread I pissed my pants ;D
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very similar whateva.....the biggest difference i see is you need more chest size to be almost identical to reg.....well done
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Reg could bench 500lbs, he was infact one of the first men to ever do it
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Reg Park was NOT natrual. But he looked fantastic, so who cares? Whateva, you look great, keep it up!
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also reg's hips were narrower....narrow your hips and you'll be well on your way
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also reg's hips were narrower....narrow your hips and you'll be well on your way
how would he narrow his hips?
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how would he narrow his hips?
Derek Anthony might be able to help him with that one...
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how would he narrow his hips?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000647GH.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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Reg looked great and was definitely ahead of his time with his rugged, herculean look, however Reg was NOT Natural. In fact, he learned about "supplements" from non other than Steve Reeves, whome everyone thinks was natural, however he was not either. Remember Steroids were invented back during WWII and were created specifically for troops in the field - that was back in the 40's!
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Remember Steroids were invented back during WWII and were created specifically for troops in the field - that was back in the 40's!
references to testosterone esters are found in Strength and Health magazine as early as 1938, well before WWII
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Your right Tim..I meant that they were available during WWII and created for the troops, however they were first invented prior to that time as you mentioned..perhaps during early to late 30's.
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your hips look great, now its just your photoshop skills that need attention. try the smudge tool next time, more even color
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your hips look great, now its just your photoshop skills that need attention. try the smudge tool next time, more even color
Nah, he should actually learn to use the cloning tool and clone in some more muscle. Only kidding, Great build.
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both lifetime naturals
reg was not natural.
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reg was not natural.
You know that for a fact? ::)
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You know that for a fact? ::)
reg benched 500 pounds for reps many years before today's grovy nutrition.
reg was not natural.
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You know that for a fact? ::)
it is my speculation and as stated many hard core fans and bb'rs agree that reg was not natural.
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery2/m399.jpg)
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anrnold and reg hanging out? hmmmm maybe reg was giving arnold supplement advice ;D
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reg benched 500 pounds for reps many years before today's grovy nutrition.
reg was not natural.
Reg benched 500 for ONE rep in 1953. Extremely strong for a natural, but hardly impossible for someone with his work ethic.
Please cite evidence that anyone was using steroids in 1953. What companies were manufacturing steroids during that time period? How many bodybuilders from that time period have ever admitted to using steroids? The fact is, you won't find a single documented case of steroid use before 1956. All bodybuilders and strongmen were natural before 1956, and even then steroid use didn't really catch on until the early 60's.
Oh, and spare me the "nutrition" bullshit. I'm pretty sure they had milk, steak, and eggs back then. ::)
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The fact is, you won't find a single documented case of steroid use before 1956. All bodybuilders and strongmen were natural before 1956, and even then steroid use didn't really catch on until the early 60's.
care to uh, make a wager? :)
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Reg benched 500 for ONE rep in 1953. Extremely strong for a natural, but hardly impossible for someone with his work ethic.
Please cite evidence that anyone was using steroids in 1953. What companies were manufacturing steroids during that time period? How many bodybuilders from that time period have ever admitted to using steroids? The fact is, you won't find a single documented case of steroid use before 1956. All bodybuilders and strongmen were natural before 1956, and even then steroid use didn't really catch on until the early 60's.
Oh, and spare me the "nutrition" bullshit. I'm pretty sure they had milk, steak, and eggs back then. ::)
Just so you know, Reg was still competing in the late 60s and the early 70s if my memory serves.
I have always been of the opinion he used steroids later in his career.
In any event, he was a stud who had the strength to go with the physique. He was a pre-Ronnie Ronnie if you know what I mean. :)
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Reg benched 500 for ONE rep in 1953. Extremely strong for a natural, but hardly impossible for someone with his work ethic.
Please cite evidence that anyone was using steroids in 1953. What companies were manufacturing steroids during that time period? How many bodybuilders from that time period have ever admitted to using steroids? The fact is, you won't find a single documented case of steroid use before 1956. All bodybuilders and strongmen were natural before 1956, and even then steroid use didn't really catch on until the early 60's.
Oh, and spare me the "nutrition" bullshit. I'm pretty sure they had milk, steak, and eggs back then. ::)
Testosterone was synthesized long before 1953. Hitler gave injections to his troops and was said to have taken them himself. He died many years prior to 1953.
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Please cite evidence that anyone was using steroids in 1953.
Strength and Health magazine mentions testosterone esters in 1938.
In two seperate articles, Strength and Health writes about George Eiferman and Jack Delinger, already national level bodybuilders, going out to Yarick's Gym in Oakland California for the summer (George 1948, Jack 1949) and coming back 30-40 pounds heavier.
Pics of Steve Reeves show him significantly larger, harder, fuller in 1953 than in previous years. Pics from a few years later, he's back to his "normal" size.
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Strength and Health magazine mentions testosterone esters in 1938.
In two seperate articles, Strength and Health writes about George Eiferman and Jack Delinger, already national level bodybuilders, going out to Yarick's Gym in Oakland California for the summer (George 1948, Jack 1949) and coming back 30-40 pounds heavier.
Pics of Steve Reeves show him significantly larger, harder, fuller in 1953 than in previous years. Pics from a few years later, he's back to his "normal" size.
Tim, is this your opinion, or do you have evidence?
Bodybuilders especially are able to put on weight and take it off quickly. They spend hours in the gym daily and can eat unreal amounts of food. I remember when eating a dozen eggs with cheese was something I could do and not get full.
What gets me is that some guy will look at Park or Reeves, and say, surely they took drugs, and then someone else will look at some "Natural" Poster Boy, complete with glute striations, and say he is obviously natural because his waist is under 40 inches.
(Then there are people who believe that our own government blew up those WTC towers on 9/11... people believe in silly things).
What I'm saying is, whatever your opinion is, take a step back and examine whether or not you have any basis at all in taking that position.
How do we go from the Nazi experiments in the 40's, to Communist Russia's use in the mid-50's, to Dr. John Ziegler's medical & experimental (York) useage in the late-50's to early 60's & the introduction of Dianabol around 1961. How do we build a case that test tube (or laboratory) use of testosterone was available and used? And if we do, we have to realize that at best, this drug must be used on a constant basis and be in plentiful supply to be of real value. Why did Ziegler need to reinvent the wheel with Riecke, Garcy and March if Reeves, Park and Eiferman had already been there and back?
Park, Reeves and Eiferman were muscular their whole lives, unlike today's drug user, who must be "hooked up" to be big. But the same rules apply. Was there a more effective steroid before they were even sold as Dianabol?
In other words, you must build a case that (1) it existed (2) it was being used, (3) that someone had the knowledge that it COULD be used for bodybuilding (which Ziegler himself did not know) (4) that it was in plentiful supply (5) that no one seemed to know about it except a very select few and (6) they've somehow kept their mouths shut about it for all these decades.
To say "X" took steroids before they were even sold or before they were available takes alot of steps. At what particular point in time did we know that steroids built muscle? The Nazi experiments were done to create more aggressive dogs, and later Nazi soldiers. The Russians used them on their O/Lifters and they had major side-effects (prostate, urination/catheter problems), etc.
But yet, here we have Reeves, Eiferman and Park all sunning themselves at the poolside with pre-Dianabol steroids in their gym bags, without a care in the world, all the while remaining perfectly silent at all times even to this day - fooling all the people all of the time. Where were the labs? Who were the scientists? Who were the contacts (middlemen)? How did it completely escape the knowledge of everyone else? How do we get there?