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Title: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 10, 2006, 11:28:53 AM
I've notcied that a lot of people subscribe to the myth that Jay's midsection is better than Ronnie's. People say Coleman looks like he's pregnant with an alien queen. They also say that Cutler is more defined and therefore desrving of the Olympia crown and our jubulant adulation.

Well, enough is enough. The fact is Jay's midsection at the 2005 Mr. Olympia was horrid. Sure his abs were mor defined than Ronnie's, but that's only part of the story. Overall, it was bloated, wider than Ronnie's, and looked absolute shit. Somehow even when he's ripped to shreds and depleted, his love handles still look fat.

Unfortunately his midsection gets worse and worse every year. At the 2006 Mr. Olympia, it's going to be even worse this year and he's going to pay for it in the final placings.

(http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/news/olympia2005large.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 10, 2006, 11:29:39 AM
last one - looked aweful. watch the prejudging on the BFTO 2005 and you'll see it wasnt even close between ronnie and Jay

2005 was Jay's last year of contention for the crown - he's going to be the new Nasser - maintaing top 6 for a couple years but never coming close to his previous best
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Disgusted on August 10, 2006, 11:31:10 AM
I think he should up his insulin.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on August 10, 2006, 11:37:57 AM
Quick, someone post the picture of Coleman where it looks like he's got a beachball in his stomach.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Bast000 on August 10, 2006, 11:39:02 AM
They're both a mess.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Farcry on August 10, 2006, 11:39:06 AM
both have terrible misd sections
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: sculpture on August 10, 2006, 11:45:21 AM
Both mens abs are horrible in terms of genetic shape. Jays got a far wider waist naturally which doesnt help matter but his abs have in the past been far more hewn than colemans.

I mean, both men tip the scales at 270lbs and their not exactly "tall" bbers like gunter, q. taylor etc.

Something has to suffer.

There certainly is a myth that jays abs are great for a "big man". In truth theyre not, there average.

Despite his flaws, yates always maintaining a good midsection and highly delineated abs no matter what bodyweight.

Shame about the rest of him eh. ;)
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: DK II on August 10, 2006, 11:52:26 AM
I think he should up his insulin.

hahahaha
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Bast000 on August 10, 2006, 11:53:45 AM
Both mens abs are horrible in terms of genetic shape.

No they don't. Their waists grew from drugs they took/take.  Both have great genetic shape.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: bmacsys on August 10, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
No they don't. Their waists grew from drugs they took/take.  Both have great genetic shape.

Both have shitty abs.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: IFBBwannaB on August 10, 2006, 12:33:36 PM
I think he should up his insulin.

I think he should pull the implants out of his delts.They look really bad.

He was never a real threat to Ronnie,not even in 2001.Anyone that watched the prejudging video knows that.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Slick Vic on August 10, 2006, 12:34:51 PM
I have to admit - when standing relaxed Ronnie's abs actually look better than Jay's, but when hitting the abs & thigh Jay's got the edge over Ronnie.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 10, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
I think he should pull the implants out of his delts.They look really bad.

He was never a real threat to Ronnie,not even in 2001.Anyone that watched the prejudging video knows that.

hey genius Cutler won the pre-judging in 2001.  he had the higher score going into the night show.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 10, 2006, 12:43:09 PM
Ronnie deserved his win in 2001 - the prejudging video proves that - so do the pictures
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: IFBBwannaB on August 10, 2006, 12:43:54 PM
hey genius Cutler won the pre-judging in 2001.  he had the higher score going into the night show.

Yeah and putting a litle drama to make the show more exciting is too far fecthed... ::)

Watch the video,Coleman had in every pose.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 10, 2006, 12:45:51 PM
This sums it all up .
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: IceCold on August 10, 2006, 01:10:05 PM
coleman looks like absolute shit in those pics.

narrow, wide waist, and no taper.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: gordiano on August 10, 2006, 01:14:27 PM
Ronnie deserved his win in 2001 - the prejudging video proves that - so do the pictures

Sorry, but even Stevie Wonder could see that wasn't the case............
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Jezebelle on August 10, 2006, 01:21:21 PM
I can't get past their bloted pot-bellies to even look at their abs.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Farcry on August 10, 2006, 02:01:25 PM
these 2 guys are the best  bodybuilding has to offer?
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: growthfactor on August 10, 2006, 02:13:52 PM
horrible quad separation
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Joey Tito on August 10, 2006, 02:18:26 PM
It's clear from those pics above that Jay ingested three big Mac meals that morning.

Ronnie is, as always, a delectable sight.

Flex, though, is teetering close on the margins of sweet hormosexuality.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Joey Tito on August 10, 2006, 02:26:32 PM
Big biceps but tiny pole.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: cqfd on August 10, 2006, 02:28:43 PM


Despite his flaws, yates always maintaining a good midsection and highly delineated abs no matter what bodyweight.


 ???
You are rewriting history.
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: bigbalddaddy on August 10, 2006, 02:41:34 PM
I think he should up his insulin.

Don't forget about the igf... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Bast000 on August 10, 2006, 02:42:14 PM
Jay's midsection used to be much better:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/jaycutler3.jpg)

(http://www.musclememory.com/images/current/CutlerJay_2.jpg)

Ronnie too

(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman18.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Colossus_1986 on August 10, 2006, 03:23:03 PM
Jay's midsection used to be much better:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/jaycutler3.jpg)


cocaine GH is a hell of a drug! And whatever else they take.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 10, 2006, 03:34:32 PM
cocaine GH is a hell of a drug! And whatever else they take.

it's the slin/gh combo

it makes them look amazing for a couple years, then its downhill (see: Dorian, Jay, Nasser, Kovacs, Kamali, Polumbo etc . . .)

it's important to take advantage of this window of opportunity
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: ribonucleic on August 10, 2006, 04:13:35 PM
(http://static.flickr.com/61/180798217_ff3c184bbb.jpg?v=0)

You were saying?
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: blaster on August 10, 2006, 04:25:23 PM
Let's not get too excited over dexter. He was my fav bbuilder, but he has got the gh gut too now.  :-\
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: LuciusFox on August 10, 2006, 04:31:48 PM
(http://static.flickr.com/61/180798217_ff3c184bbb.jpg?v=0)

You were saying?


  Onstage is when it counts ::)
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 10, 2006, 04:40:56 PM

  Onstage is when it counts ::)

yeah it does  ;)
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: sarcasm on August 10, 2006, 04:42:13 PM
both of their stomachs are huge because they're 300lbs.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: TheAnimal on August 10, 2006, 05:01:24 PM
monster acceptance of massive waistline  ::)
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: phyxsius on August 10, 2006, 05:03:46 PM
yeah it does  ;)

Yip Yip

Any complains?
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: LuciusFox on August 10, 2006, 05:12:20 PM
yeah it does  ;)


 Don't make me post that Dorian Yates picture that Hulkster likes ;D
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 10, 2006, 05:19:00 PM

 Don't make me post that Dorian Yates picture that Hulkster likes ;D

lol
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Knows_Everything on August 10, 2006, 05:29:31 PM
wow look how un-even jay's legs are in those pics :o
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Karl Kox on August 10, 2006, 06:20:41 PM
Jay's midsection just started to look like that last year
Title: Re: Jay's Midsection
Post by: Playboy on August 11, 2006, 05:53:32 AM
No they don't. Their waists grew from drugs they took/take.  Both have great genetic shape.
Agreed. Those guts are HGH, Insilin and IGF-1. And they are not the only ones. Look at Ruhl, Gunter and even Dexter now.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: kyomu on August 11, 2006, 06:10:22 AM
both of their stomachs are huge because they're 300lbs.
I agree with you sarcasm.
If you have 300lbs,you cant do anything with your mid section.
Have to eat carb a lot to maintain  muscle fullness. And imagine, if you do heavy squat like them,you need a lot of muscle in your mid section. Just impossible to carry that much mass without huge mid section.
Coleman has ploblem with their attitiude(Posing) before he gets call out; Just He is waiting his call out with sticking out his guts and relaxed.
So if his abs are tense,no problem.
In short,he should tense his abs all the time on stage like Shawn.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: phyxsius on August 11, 2006, 08:07:01 AM
In short,he should tense his abs all the time on stage like Shawn.

Try tensing your belly for the 10 minutes..
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: djohnsen on August 11, 2006, 08:29:54 AM
IMO jay looks much better, but he do have a big midsection.
He won the Abs & Thigh in mr.o 2004
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 11, 2006, 08:36:26 AM
They both suck. big blobs of shit that should go away. Let guys like melvin, freeman and Dex fight it out. Y'now, guys that don't have 40 inch waists.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: DK II on August 11, 2006, 08:50:37 AM
They both suck. big blobs of shit that should go away. Let guys like melvin, freeman and Dex fight it out. Y'now, guys that don't have 40 inch waists.

yup. throw in Heath and Darrem, Richard Jones, then we have an aesthetic line up.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: kyomu on August 11, 2006, 08:51:44 AM
Try tensing your belly for the 10 minutes..
Thats why Shawn trained that aspect(Posing). Its true isnt it Shawn?
I was on stage more than 10 minutes and didnt have any problem.(OK not tensing all the time. But Ronnie is relaxing his abs all the time)
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Scimowser on August 11, 2006, 08:53:41 AM
Jays legs are literally KILLING Ronnies in those first 2 pics, Ronnie isnt even close to him in regards to overall leg development
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: buffbodz on August 11, 2006, 10:20:46 AM
I've notcied that a lot of people subscribe to the myth that Jay's midsection is better than Ronnie's. People say Coleman looks like he's pregnant with an alien queen. They also say that Cutler is more defined and therefore desrving of the Olympia crown and our jubulant adulation.

Well, enough is enough. The fact is Jay's midsection at the 2005 Mr. Olympia was horrid. Sure his abs were mor defined than Ronnie's, but that's only part of the story. Overall, it was bloated, wider than Ronnie's, and looked absolute shit. Somehow even when he's ripped to shreds and depleted, his love handles still look fat.

Unfortunately his midsection gets worse and worse every year. At the 2006 Mr. Olympia, it's going to be even worse this year and he's going to pay for it in the final placings.

(http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/news/olympia2005large.jpg)

Ronnie looked like he ate Sergio and Serge is doing the Victory Pose inside Ronnie's stomach :o
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Shawn Ray on August 11, 2006, 12:13:07 PM
That's it................I'm coming BACK! >:(
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Shawn Ray on August 11, 2006, 12:14:58 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: HERACLES on August 11, 2006, 12:16:42 PM
man, thats a scary site..  :(

Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: IceCold on August 11, 2006, 12:23:18 PM
They both suck. big blobs of shit that should go away. Let guys like melvin, freeman and Dex fight it out. Y'now, guys that don't have 40 inch waists.


they dont have freaky mass either.
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: HERACLES on August 11, 2006, 12:34:16 PM
shawn ray shut the f**k up you little panty wiste bitch!!!! coleman fucking owns you!!!!!    your a worthless pile of shit..you kow that!!   how dare you come on here and diss ronnie.   big ron shits on your all time best!!!

Wow, just Wow..

If I were Ron boy- this reply- well attack was your one way ticket outahere... >:(


Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: Scimowser on August 11, 2006, 12:45:02 PM
opinions mean nothing on here, but facts dont lie. Shawn is among the handful who can be considered the best of all time, and certainly should be recognised as a Mr Olympia winner. Politics have corrupted this sport for decades and kept it 20 years behind what it should be
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: vein-x on August 11, 2006, 02:10:10 PM
That's it................I'm coming BACK! >:(
Whoa whoa... were you being serious bro?

That'd be amazing... that grainy mature muscle, years upon years of experience. Damn Shawn, that'd be cool as shit!

WELCOME BACK SHAWN!!
;D
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: figgs on August 11, 2006, 03:58:24 PM
Whoa whoa... were you being serious bro?

That'd be amazing... that grainy mature muscle, years upon years of experience. Damn Shawn, that'd be cool as shit!

WELCOME BACK SHAWN!!
;D

HOORAYY!!!! SHAWN RAY IS MAKING A COMEBACK!!!!! I'M THE HAPPIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!!
Title: Re: Jay's midsection is worse than Ronnie's - Deal with it
Post by: figgs on August 11, 2006, 04:00:09 PM
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