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Title: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: alexxx on August 10, 2006, 04:20:06 PM
I been taking twinlabs coq10 formula for 70$ a month. It is now becoming very expensive and I am thinking to just switch to flinstones! What are the main vitamins I should look for and how much for a natural is recommended.


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Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: sarcasm on August 10, 2006, 04:22:33 PM
a "man" with as little muscle on your body as you have should be fine with half of a flintstone.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Bast000 on August 10, 2006, 04:24:56 PM
I been taking twinlabs coq10 formula for 70$ a month. It is now becoming very expensive and I am thinking to just switch to flinstones! What are the main vitamins I should look for and how much for a natural is recommended.


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so you mean to tell me you're taking 'cock 10'  how do you pronounce it?

I buy $5 multivitamins that last 2 months,    $70!!!!?/
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: alexxx on August 10, 2006, 04:26:28 PM
so you mean to tell me you're taking 'cock 10'  how do you pronounce it?

I buy $5 multivitamins that last 2 months,    $70!!!!?/

I know I know my "friend" owns the supplement store and talked highly of them. I have my whole family on them so that is even more.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 10, 2006, 04:26:44 PM
hahahah What a waste of 70 dollars.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: gordiano on August 10, 2006, 04:26:49 PM
a "man" with as little muscle on your body as you have should be fine with half of a flintstone.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But seriously, who the fuck spends $70 on fucking vitamins. A mental giant, that's who...... ::)
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: alexxx on August 10, 2006, 04:27:41 PM
hahahah What a waste of 70 dollars.

Thank you for your though out contribution. Really.. yeah you too Sarcasm.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: sarcasm on August 10, 2006, 04:28:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But seriously, who the f**k spends $70 on fucking vitamins. A mental giant, that's who...... ::)
hahahaha, no shit, even the most expensive brands at GNC are like 15 bucks or so, hahahahaha, 70 bucks, what a moron, i don't even take a multi, you piss most of it out anyway.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: sarcasm on August 10, 2006, 04:29:42 PM
all kidding aside alexxx, just go get a bottle of Centrum at the drug store they're like 5 or 6 bucks, that's plenty of vitamins.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 10, 2006, 04:29:55 PM
hahahaha, no shit, even the most expensive brands at GNC are like 15 bucks or so, hahahahaha, 70 bucks, what a moron, i don't even take a multi, you piss most of it out anyway.

hahh me either.  Multi-Vitamin = junk
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: alexxx on August 10, 2006, 04:35:48 PM
Ok thanks. Gonna go with flinstones! Now that I think back on how much I coulda been saving. Its ok people also used Arnold.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Princess L on August 10, 2006, 06:48:29 PM
I know I know my "friend" owns the supplement store and talked highly of them. I have my whole family on them so that is even more.

CoQ10 is a very very expensive supplement.  If you can afford to add it to your regime - great; there's a lot of good things about it. The antioxidant effects are well documented.

For athletes, the science does not consistently support it as an "ergogenic performance aid". As an antioxidant, especially in combination with other antioxidants like vitamins C and E, CoQ10 appears to be beneficial. For heart patients, it appears to be especially beneficial, particularly in those who are taking cholesterol lowering meds.

 
Multi-Vitamin = junk

Totally disagree.  Everyone should be on a good basic multi - regardless of their diet.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Jr. Yates on August 10, 2006, 06:49:47 PM
I agree with you. I think everyone should be on a multi as well as their other vitamens and minerals.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Havenbull on August 10, 2006, 07:37:03 PM

CoQ10 is a very very expensive supplement.  If you can afford to add it to your regime - great; there's a lot of good things about it. The antioxidant effects are well documented.

For athletes, the science does not consistently support it as an "ergogenic performance aid". As an antioxidant, especially in combination with other antioxidants like vitamins C and E, CoQ10 appears to be beneficial. For heart patients, it appears to be especially beneficial, particularly in those who are taking cholesterol lowering meds.

 
Totally disagree.  Everyone should be on a good basic multi - regardless of their diet.

co q 10 is a vitamin like substance that oxidizes cell tissue and produces cellular energy.

it's one of my favorite antioxidants along with Alpha Lipoic Acid, Grape Seed Extract, Pycnogenol (french pine bark extract), C and E
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: 250Ben250 on August 10, 2006, 07:52:20 PM
If you're looking for anti-oxidants Noxidant by Scivation is awesome --

http://www.1fast400.com/p1714_NOxidant_Scivation.html (http://www.1fast400.com/p1714_NOxidant_Scivation.html)

$7, can't go wrong...
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Jr. Yates on August 10, 2006, 07:54:39 PM
If you're looking for anti-oxidants Noxidant by Scivation is awesome --

http://www.1fast400.com/p1714_NOxidant_Scivation.html (http://www.1fast400.com/p1714_NOxidant_Scivation.html)

$7, can't go wrong...
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Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Princess L on August 10, 2006, 07:58:15 PM
co q 10 is a vitamin like substance that oxidizes cell tissue and produces cellular energy.

it's one of my favorite antioxidants along with Alpha Lipoic Acid, Grape Seed Extract, Pycnogenol (french pine bark extract), C and E

Quite the pricey arsenal.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Kegdrainer on August 10, 2006, 08:24:42 PM
http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=393
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: DK II on August 11, 2006, 01:32:57 AM
hahh me either.  Multi-Vitamin = junk

True. A good nutrition should be sufficient. No need for a multi vitamin.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: xpac2 on August 11, 2006, 06:16:00 AM
Multi-vitamins are synthetic garbage. You're system can't even absorb that shit. Numerous studies have shown that people taking a Multi are in no better health than people who don't.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Havenbull on August 11, 2006, 08:15:49 AM
Multi-vitamins are synthetic garbage. You're system can't even absorb that shit. Numerous studies have shown that people taking a Multi are in no better health than people who don't.

please produce these studies

real reseach show that if everyone took an MV, it could save the health care industry nearly 11 billion $ a year
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: xpac2 on August 11, 2006, 09:06:23 AM
please produce these studies

real reseach show that if everyone took an MV, it could save the health care industry nearly 11 billion $ a year

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16880453&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16768922&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: texasRUSH on August 11, 2006, 09:40:04 AM
lol if he was your friend he wouldn't hustle you on a 70 dollar stint of vitamins!  :o :D :-X
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Princess L on August 11, 2006, 09:46:02 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16880453&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16768922&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum


Findings may not apply to use of commercial multivitamin supplements by the general U.S. population. CONCLUSIONS: Evidence is insufficient to support the presence or absence of benefits from use of multivitamin and mineral supplements to prevent cancer and chronic disease.

I'm not Danish either.

Try again.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: xpac2 on August 11, 2006, 09:56:19 AM
Findings may not apply to use of commercial multivitamin supplements by the general U.S. population. CONCLUSIONS: Evidence is insufficient to support the presence or absence of benefits from use of multivitamin and mineral supplements to prevent cancer and chronic disease.

I'm not Danish either.

Try again.

No
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Rhino on August 11, 2006, 12:30:51 PM
please produce these studies

real reseach show that if everyone took an MV, it could save the health care industry nearly 11 billion $ a year

I swear by them!!! I will never not take one for as long as I live.

I stopped for about a year. Didn't feel I had to take one. I took them for years before, but didn't realize how good they were working until I stopped taking them.

Anyway, when I started taking centrum again - wow - what a difference- is all I can say. I'm just glad I started up again. I don't know what I was thinking when I stopped taking them.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Havenbull on August 11, 2006, 07:48:22 PM
I swear by them!!! I will never not take one for as long as I live.

I stopped for about a year. Didn't feel I had to take one. I took them for years before, but didn't realize how good they were working until I stopped taking them.

Anyway, when I started taking centrum again - wow - what a difference- is all I can say. I'm just glad I started up again. I don't know what I was thinking when I stopped taking them.

cool, but I think you could do better than centrum
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: az on August 12, 2006, 03:50:51 AM
I take a multi daily. Having a good food plan is great and it would be even better if we could get all of the nutrients out of the food we eat but there is no way that we can. The crap that they spray on food, the crap that they feed the animals, the crap that is in the soil, rain and crap that the animals crap out to fertilize the soil is all laced with toxins. We are lucky if we get ANY nutrients from food these days, even if it is organic. And I haven't even touched the gene splicing that they do with foods.

Take your vitamins people!!!!
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: xpac2 on August 12, 2006, 12:09:45 PM
I take a multi daily. Having a good food plan is great and it would be even better if we could get all of the nutrients out of the food we eat but there is no way that we can. The crap that they spray on food, the crap that they feed the animals, the crap that is in the soil, rain and crap that the animals crap out to fertilize the soil is all laced with toxins. We are lucky if we get ANY nutrients from food these days, even if it is organic. And I haven't even touched the gene splicing that they do with foods.

Take your vitamins people!!!!

There is nothing natural about a multivitamin
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Arnold Palmer on August 12, 2006, 01:55:55 PM
Flinstones taste good too, I put them in my PEZ dispencer and eat them all day long.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: MidniteRambo on August 14, 2006, 09:22:42 AM
Flinstones taste good too, I put them in my PEZ dispencer and eat them all day long.

If true, that's quite insane and potentially dangerous.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: MidniteRambo on August 14, 2006, 09:39:55 AM
See "Multiple vitamin overdose" at: http://www.pennhealth.com/ency/article/002596.htm

“Vitamin A Toxicity/Vitamin A overdose"

http://www.vitamin-supplement-reference.com/vitamin-A.html

“Vitamin D overdose - Vitamin D Toxicity"

http://www.vitamin-supplement-reference.com/Vitamin-D.html


Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on August 14, 2006, 11:05:25 AM
Centrum's suck. Just take GNC's Megamen, it's like $15 a month. Also bodybuilders should avoid Co-Q 10 as it turns from an anti-oxidant to a pro-oxidant during hypoxia (which bodybuilders experience quite frequently). If you want something with Co-Q 10 benefits take idenbenone.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Havenbull on August 14, 2006, 07:32:45 PM
See "Multiple vitamin overdose" at: http://www.pennhealth.com/ency/article/002596.htm

“Vitamin A Toxicity/Vitamin A overdose"

http://www.vitamin-supplement-reference.com/vitamin-A.html

“Vitamin D overdose - Vitamin D Toxicity"

http://www.vitamin-supplement-reference.com/Vitamin-D.html




of course they can, they're fate soluble
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: blondmusclhunk on August 15, 2006, 10:47:30 AM
$70 for vitamins is insane.  Get yourself a good all around multi vitamin and take two a day.  concentrate on other supplements more like protein, glutamine etc:
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Hedgehog on August 16, 2006, 12:48:59 AM
hahh me either.  Multi-Vitamin = junk

I agree.

A,D,E and K will store within the body if your daily intake is bigger than what you need.

The other vitamins are water soluble , so they won't build up in the body if over dosing for a longer period of time. Still very unnecessary to put stress on the body.

If you have to eat a multi, go with as low dosed as possible.

But it would be much better to go over the daily diet instead.

Some of us should instead get blood tests on our iron levels, just to make sure they're ok. If they're a bit low, I suggest trying to include a bit of red meat once or twice a week. Even when on a diet.

Not adding an iron pill.


The best hepathlete in the world, Carolina Klüft of Sweden, doesn't supplement with anything. No vitamins, no protein powders, nothing like that. Allround good nutrition is what works best.

She gets tested for steroids at least 5-6 times each year.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Insane Pete on August 16, 2006, 08:35:18 AM
From the hours I've spent reading on this, the best 2 Multi-Vitamin's you can buy are:

1. Animal Pak by Universal
2. GNC's MegaMen (or the sports version)

At a glance Animal Pak is supremely expensive (see here http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=14).  BUT, if you check here you'll be suprised: http://www.massnutrition.com/products.cfm?cur_man=UNIVERSAL%20NUTRITION&item=UN011&tck=17

Animal Pak requires 11 (very large!) pills *per serving*, and for many gives a noticable boost.

The latter is what I'm taking now and seems to be working well until I have the money for a Pak.

Pete
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Rhino on August 18, 2006, 11:06:56 AM
I've taken a "run of the mill" multi like centrum or life (same maker anyway) my whole life. I never took GNC or anything like that because I've always been happy with my reg. vitamins. And aren't some of those Mega vits. over doing it a little? I mean like too much of a good thing? Not sure, so I didn't bother fixing something that "wasn't broke."
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Princess L on August 18, 2006, 11:41:07 AM

The best hepathlete in the world, Carolina Klüft of Sweden, doesn't supplement with anything. No vitamins, no protein powders, nothing like that. All around good nutrition is what works best.

YIP
Zack

That would be ideal and a hundred years ago that may have been the case.  However, our soils have been so depleted of nutrients that what grows in it is not what it used to be.  A carrot from my grandparents era does not have the same nutritional value as todays. 

As regular exercisers, we're putting stresses on our bodies (albiet GOOD stresses) which require more than the avg. Joe Schmoe nutritionally.  It's impossible to get EVERYTHING we need just from food.  I've read about experiements where nutrition students tried to get 100% RDA just from food, based on a 2000kcal/day diet.  They found it impossible.  No, it wasn't "scientific", but very interesting.  Our foods are so chemically engineered and over-pesticided that even if we eat clean, we need more. At least here in the States. 

Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: gmflex on August 20, 2006, 06:20:27 PM
Animal pak ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: the choad on August 20, 2006, 07:51:48 PM
what i do is go to walmart or sams club...Buy the cheapest multi's available...Then what i do when i get home is dump all the multi's in the trash and replace the vitamins in the trash with anadrol 50's..There you go vitamins that work..
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Hedgehog on August 21, 2006, 12:45:28 AM
what i do is go to walmart or sams club...Buy the cheapest multi's available...Then what i do when i get home is dump all the multi's in the trash and replace the vitamins in the trash with anadrol 50's..There you go vitamins that work..

Hi Ronnie.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: DK II on August 21, 2006, 01:24:32 AM
Hi Ronnie.

YIP
Zack

lol
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: bigjay80 on August 21, 2006, 09:41:57 AM
I just started taking MHP's Activite, they are working with Triarco (Aminogen) and are using all of their enzyme blends, they help you utilize nutrients from food as well.  Great multi, not a bad price for a month supply, you can get it for as cheap as $23.00.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: ReEvolution on August 21, 2006, 11:43:25 PM
somewhat large doses of vitamin C do wonders for me.

vitamins are so cheap it's stupid not to take them. 
eat healthy foods..blah...blah
you'd need a huge variety to cover all the bases.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: pvcjockey on August 25, 2006, 06:10:05 PM
universal nutritions animal pak is the greatest vitamin pack out there. they are only $23 for 44 paks.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Havenbull on August 25, 2006, 06:49:43 PM
universal nutritions animal pak is the greatest vitamin pack out there. they are only $23 for 44 paks.

heh heh, you believe that.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: sarcasm on August 25, 2006, 06:56:46 PM
universal nutritions animal pak is the greatest vitamin pack out there. they are only $23 for 44 paks.
you'd be better off buying a few steaks.
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Luolamies on September 03, 2006, 04:11:23 AM
I take 1 strong multi, 1000-2000 mg's C and fish oil every morning and night, works great and cost way less than 70 bucks!
Title: Re: WHAT VITAMINS DO YOU TAKE OR NEED?
Post by: Mars on September 03, 2006, 06:31:26 AM
you'd be better off buying a few steaks.

Agree, animal pak are way overpriced overdosed multi vitamins. no need for that.