Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: staynatural on August 12, 2006, 10:55:02 PM
-
Met Jay Cutler today at the Natomas Max Muscle in Sacramento. The guy is huge as can be. I believe he is currently 283 lbs. He is rock solid. Calves were unbelievable! I'm not trying to jump on the bandwagon, but this might be his year. I will try to post the picture that I took of him (once I can figure-out how to do it). Oh....Kris Dim was suppose to be there as well, but was a no show.
-
every year is "jay's" year!
-
Met Jay Cutler today at the Natomas Max Muscle in Sacramento. The guy is huge as can be. I believe he is currently 283 lbs. He is rock solid. Calves were unbelievable! I'm not trying to jump on the bandwagon, but this might be his year. I will try to post the picture that I took of him (once I can figure-out how to do it). Oh....Kris Dim was suppose to be there as well, but was a no show.
you can email it to me if ya need it shrunk
ciscorob5@aol.com
-
I mean, I'm not quite sure how to get the picture from my camera onto my computer. Still learning about all this stuff.
-
You should have a firewire or USB cable. Just plug it into your PC and Windows will pick it up automatically. Just follow onscreen instructions.
-
you can email it to me if ya need it shrunk
ciscorob5@aol.com
Hey 240...how do you shrink a picture..I have one at my computer--its small where it is in the folder..but it gets out of fuckin way to large if i click on it...help me wizard
-
Hey 240...how do you shrink a picture..I have one at my computer--its small where it is in the folder..but it gets out of fuckin way to large if i click on it...help me wizard
you need photoshop or fireworks.
or jsut email it to me and i'll email it right back
-
you need photoshop or fireworks.
or jsut email it to me and i'll email it right back
E-mail is out of the question,its me and a girl,getin da freak on... 8) kinda personal. But thanks m8. I will probably downl..I meen buy photoshop right away.thanks 240
-
I keep hearing this cash register sound..
-
They are all up on Mayhem, in case you are interested.
-
They are all up on Mayhem, in case you are interested.
Thanks but no thanks.
-
They are all up on Mayhem, in case you are interested.
Somebody repost those pics on the sex board then.
I sure wanna know what Big Freaks girl look like.
YIP
Zack
-
Met Jay Cutler today
this might be his year.
Like every other year, huh? ::)
Sorry, but Ronnie has the win this year - again.
-
Since Jaw has a waist measuring 38+ these days, there ain't no chance he'll beat Ronnie.
BTW, no chance in hell, or heaven (sorry Melvin) that Melvin Anthony has a waist measuring 27 inches.
Anything below 30 inches for these guys would be fcuking incredible.
To get a measurement at 27, Melvin would have to suck his gut in, and the measurement is to be taken at a relaxed state.
True Adonis, I don't for a minute believe your claim of a 29 inch waist either. If you get to a legit 31 inches when your diet is done, I will be extremely impressed.
Remember, Arnold, who looked to have a pretty tight wasp waist, had all of 34 inches.
No reason to bullshit. The waist isn't gonna look smaller because you mention a lower number.
YIP
Zack
-
is it just me or are the proportions of his face becoming scary?
-
He looks like the last boss...in any random videogame
-
is it just me or are the proportions of his face becoming scary?
post few more pictures for me to see,, it looks good arm wise,,that is his problem the arms. post more pics for me to give final judgement about the arms. this is the key for him for a first title,,with a pray ron comes sick ofcourse. post more pictures
-
is it just me or are the proportions of his face becoming scary?
The dude on the right dwarfs him while Jay holding his lunch
-
True.... Jays arm is only like 4 inches bigger :D
-
Since Jaw has a waist measuring 38+ these days, there ain't no chance he'll beat Ronnie.
BTW, no chance in hell, or heaven (sorry Melvin) that Melvin Anthony has a waist measuring 27 inches.
Anything below 30 inches for these guys would be fcuking incredible.
To get a measurement at 27, Melvin would have to suck his gut in, and the measurement is to be taken at a relaxed state.
True Adonis, I don't for a minute believe your claim of a 29 inch waist either. If you get to a legit 31 inches when your diet is done, I will be extremely impressed.
Remember, Arnold, who looked to have a pretty tight wasp waist, had all of 34 inches.
No reason to bullshit. The waist isn't gonna look smaller because you mention a lower number.
YIP
Zack
Ronnie's waist is 42-44.
-
Ronnie's waist is 42-44.
I hope that isn't true, I know some pretty fat guys with waists that big.
-
is it just me or are the proportions of his face becoming scary?
Looks at the baby searching for a man-boob in that photo.
-
I hope that isn't true, I know some pretty fat guys with waists that big.
it's every bit of that but his chest is probably at least 58 so it's not so bad, most fat geeks who have that size waist also have chests that are like 38-40 so it looks like shit.
-
The dude on the right dwarfs him while Jay holding his lunch
-
post few more pictures for me to see,, it looks good arm wise,,that is his problem the arms. post more pics for me to give final judgement about the arms. this is the key for him for a first title,,with a pray ron comes sick ofcourse. post more pictures
-
His facial proportions and hairline are starting to change even more now... If he just would have stuck to the plan of leaving competitive BBing like 4 years ago he would have been a lot healthier in the long run.
-
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88917.0;attach=95928;image)
LOL at the kid trying to breast feed on Jay! ;D
i bet insulin and GH flow out of those...kid will grow to massive proportions and break his crib overnight! lol ;D
-
Jay during the past 2 years has stayed in very good conditioning, and his midsection has become a lot tighter than Ronnie's. It's obsurd to say his facial bones are changing. He hasn't played the size game he's just tried to come in with great conditioning.
-
Jay during the past 2 years has stayed in very good conditioning, and his midsection has become a lot tighter than Ronnie's. It's obsurd to say his facial bones are changing. He hasn't played the size game he's just tried to come in with great conditioning.
look at those two pics and tell me jays facial structure hasn`t changed DRAMATICALLY.
10-12 years of aging process DOESN´T do this to a face.
-
post few more pictures for me to see,, it looks good arm wise,,that is his problem the arms. post more pics for me to give final judgement about the arms. this is the key for him for a first title,,with a pray ron comes sick ofcourse. post more pictures
Hmm..I always thought Jays arms are incredible. Huge, SPlit biceps, the guy is huge with extreme conditioning..and a class act.
-
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88917.0;attach=95983;image)
He looks great for being 34.
YIP
Zack
-
To me jay's "weakness" has been his detail in the arms and shoulders and the glutes and hams. His balance, size and conditioning have been very good. n these pix it does look like Jay's arms and delts are on their way to becoming more detailed than previous recent years.
The GH did incredible things to Jay's face....that's a fact and it isn't a surprise to anyone that knows and ACCEPTS the actions of the hormone, either abusive amounts or very long term usage....it is obvious in many BB's and even girls that compete in figure...yet in their world it is DENIED. I will try and post some pix from an endocrinology book showing the skulls of cadavers suffering acromegaly...which, wether BB's deny it or not IS the condition they are simulating when using these enormous amounts of gh.....when your mandible grows like that you can bet 100% you are exceeding the normal LVHypertrophy of an athlete from exercise....it is exactly like a person with acromegaly. Obviously there are many benifits to gh use, but abuse is very very damaging long term.
As far as waist go...yes measurements are not what they used to be, but guys are 60 or more pounds larger than they used to be....I'm not sure if any BB jay's size could have a 34 inch waist around the umbillicus...maybe at the pants height but not above. 38 is a very good measurement for a guy his size, no doubt.
In the end I think Ronnie will win and should win, no one has his detail at that size and with a "generally balanced" musculature, calves excluded. The guy is incredible. Dexter should be right up there as well.
-
what was jay doing In Sacramento yesterday anyway ?
-
Jay is one of my absolute favorite bodybuilders. Great muscle size, proportions for a "mass monster", and good conditioning. HOWEVER...does he think that whatever he is doing this year is going to surpass Ronnie? Jay looks great but basically the same as last year except that he is in shape a little earlier this time. What is his trunmp card to beat Ronnie this year? Ronnie is bigger, more muscle maturity, got the insane ripped glutes, need I even say perfect back, 8x Mr. Olympia momentum. Everything Jay has Ronnie has more except for better abdominals and that doen't mean much really.
-
I guess someone went on Mayhem after all to get these.
Also, I'm wondering why Jay does not post here anymore.... Hummmmm!!
-
I don't understand why you people keep saying his head grows
It always look the same
his face only looks different when he get in contest shape, and the same thing happen to every competitor
Looking good Jay !!!
ps: But I still say that dexter will place second 8)
-
Once again... There are 2 reasons why Jay keeps doing the O.
1) The second place prize money " Aint to shabby "
2) This is the biggest reason and something I think people keep overlooking. Ronnie Is human ( Maybe ) And by Jay sticking real close to Ronnie and doing the O every year, Jay's just waiting for Ronnie to be " Off " or Ronnie could get hurt, miss his flight, get food poisoning..
etc... All joking aside , think about it. Anything can happen before a show. By Jay staying right on Ronnie's ass, he is just waiting for something like that to happen. Then Jay would win It. So he has to do the O every year and stay right there with big Ron in case something does happen.
-
Once again... There are 2 reasons why Jay keeps doing the O.
1) The second place prize money " Aint to shabby "
2) This is the biggest reason and something I think people keep overlooking. Ronnie Is human ( Maybe ) And by Jay sticking real close to Ronnie and doing the O every year, Jay's just waiting for Ronnie to be " Off " or Ronnie could get hurt, miss his flight, get food poisoning..
etc... All joking aside , think about it. Anything can happen before a show. By Jay staying right on Ronnie's ass, he is just waiting for something like that to happen. Then Jay would win It. So he has to do the O every year and stay right there with big Ron in case something does happen.
So true bailey.
even if Jay never wins the O, doesnt short him at all. Hes still one of the few TOP AWESOME PROS to not have. (Levronie)
-
Every year and every thread the same shit about Jays head. How boring.
-
A large part of Jay's income is bb. If he quit...no more guest posing, Muscletech contract, dvds, etc. Plus I am sure he loves bb and wants to leave his leagacy in the sport as a Mr. Olympia.
-
A large part of Jay's income is bb. If he quit...no more guest posing, Muscletech contract, dvds, etc. Plus I am sure he loves bb and wants to leave his leagacy in the sport as a Mr. Olympia.
I think Jay said the major part of his income wasn't from bodybuilding
-
Jay will never be Mr. Olympia. He is Nasser all over again.
-
Keep speaking the truth Matt C and eventually, all there'll be left here is a bunch of shit talkers that bickers and attack each other based on differences of opinions. But at least, you guys are keeping it real as CC would say. LOL!!!
-
How long do you think Jay will live, Dave?
that's not a cool question Matt......
how would you take it if we ask you this about one of your friend ? :-\
-
How long do you think Jay will live, Dave?
That was pretty shitty. >:(
-
Probably longuer than you Matt as he gets checked by a Doc several times a year. He has a full life insurrance and medical insurrance as well and if you know anything about that sort of thing, you know that they just don't give these out to anybody, you have to go through full physical medical test, he does not smoke or drink, etc... He's probably in better health than you are.
Thanks for worrying about his well being though, I'm sure he appreciates it.
And yes btw, that was a very classy question.
Max.
-
JAY THEN:
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111244649_522.jpg)
and NOW:
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111244630_571.jpg)
Then:
(http://homepages.wmich.edu/~m2jackso/MG-JayCutler2.JPG)
AND NOW!!! ( ;D)
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111244634_555.jpg)
Everyone wanna talk about jay's jaw...well the guy had a very predominant jaw structure to begin with...IMO it got a tad wider...but who cares? thats so insignificant. Look at that latspread ;D
and Jay is young, and got tons of experience and knowledge.
Arnold did roids, (to a lesser extent) and is alive an kicking like a mother-f*cker so who are we to say it will take years off life? we will only know in 30 years roughly. Idiots who take counterfit stuff...and don't have a "guru" or trainer with the proper expertise....yeah that's another story...
PS: Matt C...you need a training partner who smokes less pot and actually looks like he's in shape! ;)
-
It would have been nice if Jay had stuck around longer, and if it is threads like these that made him go away, that is really too bad. I for one don't see much of a difference in his head or jaw, but, a lot of people on here believe otherwise. As for Matt's training partner, he has some really creepy pics of him all oiled up and looking very...well I'll let Matt show you :P :P
-
What does Matt look like? I'm kind of curious now since we saw his partner already.
-
Who cares? only homos study jaw lines
this not the boy scouts here
Notorious BIG said it best: "on the way riches and diamond rings, real "people" do real things"
by any means, Jay should double his stack
-
This pic is just too sick!!! i forgot just how dry he looked at that show!
If he were any drier he would be a pile of sand!
Hail KingJAY! :o :D
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111244634_555.jpg)
-
His calves make me sad lol.
-
Probably longuer than you Matt as he gets checked by a Doc several times a year. He has a full life insurrance and medical insurrance as well and if you know anything about that sort of thing, you know that they just don't give these out to anybody, you have to go through full physical medical test, he does not smoke or drink, etc... He's probably in better health than you are.
Just because you have medical checkups doesn't mean there is no danger to your health through the use of massive amounts of bodybuilding drugs. There are a lot of potential risks that DO NOT show up on standard blood panels. Does he have the thickness of his left ventricle measured all the time? Does he get liver ultrasounds (as opposed to enzyme tests that can be perfectly normal while a cyst is forming)? Just some examples.
The amount of drugs the pros use is not healthy despite what you claim. Ask the pros themselves if they think there is zero danger to their health by their lifestyle. Why did Cutler use to say he wanted to get out in a few years if it's so healthy?
-
I never say that he was the healthiest guy around, but many people who don't even compete use loads of gear and never ever get checked by a physician. Anyway, I'm not the one who started talking shit about how long will Jay live, etc... This goes for most athletes who practice the sport of bodybuilding competitively, not just pros but amateurs as well. So why pick on Jay? Because he's on top or because Matt got a hard on for him?
-
jay cutler went from a cool looking guy in his early 20's to an ugly jay leno fraternal twin looking bag of shit
-
I guess someone went on Mayhem after all to get these.
Also, I'm wondering why Jay does not post here anymore.... Hummmmm!!
Madmax....I understand your a friend of Jay's, but this is a board that discusses bodybuilding, weight training, etc, both good and bad. Drugs, drugs being used, effects, side effects, apperances etc are gonna be discussed. Not everyone involved in BB likes the drug use part of the game. There is a whole other world outside of the 3 block circus town of Venice, California (which is a cool place) that weight trains and bodybuilds and does not use drugs. Jay Cutler is a professional BB....he WILLINGLY stands on a stage to get picked apart and earn a living. He has been doing this for a long time. I've been involved in BB contest since 84. If I stopped going to a gym or was not able to take the "negative or not complimentry " comments I would have never stepped on a stage let alone win shows. By the time your at Jay's level in BB you have heard everything. To deny the obvious changes is insane...if a person in the normal world had their mandible change like that they would be concerned, no? I personally know a guy with acromegaly that had surgery to prevent any further abnormalities...especial ly to his heart. Are you saying that you think you can use large amounts of GH or similar hormones (IGF) for years and be sheilded from acromegaly changes? Do you think that acromegaly or facial changes are where it stops? Do you understand the #1 reason people with acromegaly die young? Can you look at the picture of Jay on the last page...the one where he is standing up and then look at the new pix you posted and say the changes to the jaw are not incredible? I aint talking about normal aging, which Jay is doing GREAT...I'm just talking about the facial features. The guy seems like a nice guy, he's a great BB but when someone on the first page of a disussion board asked if anyone sees changes to his facial features in the posted pix and you say that's why Jay don't post that's ridiculous...I guess people can go on a board for Nascar but can't talk about crashes...or people can go on a rock and roll board and see a pix of Keith Richards and not mention drugs....Wake up, man. ust because Jay and everyother BB has heard people pick apart their physique doesn't mean they'll stop competing and go through it all over again.
I have a friend that is competing at Nationals, has competed for 16 years. I see some stuff that he can and should do differently to make it safer. I saw some changes in him that I did not like....Of course I said something and made sure it got through. I understand winning and the fucked up game that is Bodybuilding as much as anyone, but their are safer ways and ya gotta do everything to protect yourself.
-
How long jay will live will come down to genetics IMO... what he has done will hasten death if he is predisposed to certain things.
Otherwise he'll be okay after he retires and live to 70+
-
Madmax....I understand your a friend of Jay's, but this is a board that discusses bodybuilding, weight training, etc, both good and bad. Drugs, drugs being used, effects, side effects, apperances etc are gonna be discussed. Not everyone involved in BB likes the drug use part of the game. There is a whole other world outside of the 3 block circus town of Venice, California (which is a cool place) that weight trains and bodybuilds and does not use drugs. Jay Cutler is a professional BB....he WILLINGLY stands on a stage to get picked apart and earn a living. He has been doing this for a long time. I've been involved in BB contest since 84. If I stopped going to a gym or was not able to take the "negative or not complimentry " comments I would have never stepped on a stage let alone win shows. By the time your at Jay's level in BB you have heard everything. To deny the obvious changes is insane...if a person in the normal world had their mandible change like that they would be concerned, no? I personally know a guy with acromegaly that had surgery to prevent any further abnormalities...especial ly to his heart. Are you saying that you think you can use large amounts of GH or similar hormones (IGF) for years and be sheilded from acromegaly changes? Do you think that acromegaly or facial changes are where it stops? Do you understand the #1 reason people with acromegaly die young? Can you look at the picture of Jay on the last page...the one where he is standing up and then look at the new pix you posted and say the changes to the jaw are not incredible? I aint talking about normal aging, which Jay is doing GREAT...I'm just talking about the facial features. The guy seems like a nice guy, he's a great BB but when someone on the first page of a disussion board asked if anyone sees changes to his facial features in the posted pix and you say that's why Jay don't post that's ridiculous...I guess people can go on a board for Nascar but can't talk about crashes...or people can go on a rock and roll board and see a pix of Keith Richards and not mention drugs....Wake up, man. ust because Jay and everyother BB has heard people pick apart their physique doesn't mean they'll stop competing and go through it all over again.
I have a friend that is competing at Nationals, has competed for 16 years. I see some stuff that he can and should do differently to make it safer. I saw some changes in him that I did not like....Of course I said something and made sure it got through. I understand winning and the fucked up game that is Bodybuilding as much as anyone, but their are safer ways and ya gotta do everything to protect yourself.
You see, I can actually deal with post like yours a lot more easily that just nasty stupid and mean spirited posts like the ones before. I am just saying that nobody likes being talked shit about, I understand that it is the nature of this board and that's fine but that does not mean that anybody has to tolerate it, if they don't want to. Obviously, Cuts has no time for this kind of negative shit, he only came on here because of few GetBig members asked him to and invited him. Many times, I get e-mails from people even from this board asking me why Jay does not post here anymore, well, that is why, because a few rotten apples ruin it for everybody else, I feel bad for the good ones but I guess, that's just the way things are.
There's a lot of people on boards and we all have different opinions and we are entitled to them, just don't complain about Pros not posting here then.
That's all.
Max.
-
Notorious BIG said it best: "on the way riches and diamond rings, real "people" do real things"
yeah, another genius who lived a long life
-
Probably longuer than you Matt as he gets checked by a Doc several times a year. He has a full life insurrance and medical insurrance as well and if you know anything about that sort of thing, you know that they just don't give these out to anybody, you have to go through full physical medical test, he does not smoke or drink, etc... He's probably in better health than you are.
Thanks for worrying about his well being though, I'm sure he appreciates it.
And yes btw, that was a very classy question.
Max.
And when he crokes, do thnk that insurance will really pay out considering the illegal drug use? Also, don't you think on the med insurance claims if needed will reject him for lying on an insurance form? If God for bid anything happends to him and the insurance co. decides to do a full investigation, his claims will be rejected and if he dies, his wife will have no claim.....same with any who uses that much gear!
-
And when he crokes, do thnk that insurance will really pay out considering the illegal drug use? Also, don't you think on the med insurance claims if needed will reject him for lying on an insurance form? If God for bid anything happends to him and the insurance co. decides to do a full investigation, his claims will be rejected and if he dies, his wife will have no claim.....same with any who uses that much gear!
that's what I was thinking...
one look at him and the company will do a drug test and refuse his coverage pronto...
same with ANY ifbb pro... the coverage is worthless for serious illness
-
acromegaly comes with playing the mass game. It isn't a good long-term thing to deal with, but there is a tradeoff that comes from being 300 pounds of muscle, getting mag covers, and meeting 1000 people every weekend who waited an hour just to shake your hand in a pic. They make the choice, much like stockbrokers will choose a heart attack at 54 or coalminers will choose lung cancer at 50.
-
acromegaly comes with playing the mass game. It isn't a good long-term thing to deal with, but there is a tradeoff that comes from being 300 pounds of muscle, getting mag covers, and meeting 1000 people every weekend who waited an hour just to shake your hand in a pic. They make the choice, much like stockbrokers will choose a heart attack at 54 or coalminers will choose lung cancer at 50.
You know, I kind of agree with that statement 240, we all have to make choices and live with them
-
You know, I kind of agree with that statement 240, we all have to make choices and live with them
but dave do the people around jay and ronnie ever tell them their concerns or do they just keep pumping them up to greater heights?
-
I doubt it. A couple of time, I expressed concernes about making sure that winning the O title would not affect his health or his life. I want him to win but not at the expense to lose a friend. I'm more concerned about diuretics really than anything else. Jay knows how I feel but the bottom line is that he's an adult and he knows fully what he's doing and based on what I know, he's taking as little risks as possible. What else can I say. I know plenty of other people that will never be at Jay's level and abuse themselves a lot more than he does.
-
oh yeah the less gifted guys do some CRAZY stuff to try to defy genetics...
-
Exactly!
-
You guys keep talking about Jay's face, this grows and that grows.. Try comparing Lee's face in off season then on stage..
(http://www.81x.com/Authors/bigwillevo/lp4.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/leepriestinterview1qbig.jpg)
Same stuff
-
Once again... There are 2 reasons why Jay keeps doing the O.
1) The second place prize money " Aint to shabby "
2) This is the biggest reason and something I think people keep overlooking. Ronnie Is human ( Maybe ) And by Jay sticking real close to Ronnie and doing the O every year, Jay's just waiting for Ronnie to be " Off " or Ronnie could get hurt, miss his flight, get food poisoning..
etc... All joking aside , think about it. Anything can happen before a show. By Jay staying right on Ronnie's ass, he is just waiting for something like that to happen. Then Jay would win It. So he has to do the O every year and stay right there with big Ron in case something does happen.
Jay was at his all-time best in 2001, and Ronnie was at his all-time worst yet Ron still won.
-
Who cares? only homos study jaw lines
Not. We have better things to study. ;D I don't know what you call people who study jaw lines but "homos" is not it.
Matt
If you continue to point out their denial and hypocrisy people will hate you for it (but they won’t change their behavior). “Kill the messenger” is the strategy of choice for people in denial. In many ways, getbig is just like the muscle escort board:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=36549.0
Everytime someone dies, everyone posts about how sad it is, how much they cared for the individual and how much they wish his family well, but in the next breath they are back to celebrating & worshipping their other muscle heroes whom are doing the very things that made the last guy turn up dead.
Ah well, there are plenty more muscleheads where he came from.
-
. I know plenty of other people that will never be at Jay's level and abuse themselves a lot more than he does.
This is so true....I talk to guys that won't even win a state level show that are using enormous amounts of stuff...way more than necessary.
-
acromegaly comes with playing the mass game. It isn't a good long-term thing to deal with, but there is a tradeoff that comes from being 300 pounds of muscle, getting mag covers, and meeting 1000 people every weekend who waited an hour just to shake your hand in a pic. They make the choice, much like stockbrokers will choose a heart attack at 54 or coalminers will choose lung cancer at 50.
wow, that's the smartest statement coming out of your keyboard for a while... for once, well said..
-
Matt, I respect that you did post pics of yourself but why did people have to make fun and rip you apart? Did you like it? I'm sure you did not. I guess it's ok to give/ask for constructive criticism but making fun just to make themselve feel better, I think it's crummy and that's the problem with a lot of people here.
I know all that I'm saying will not change a things in the way things are handled here but a few people may understand what I'm talking about.
Max.
-
Fair enough.
-
wow, that's the smartest statement coming out of your keyboard for a while... for once, well said..
thanks. I'll stand in a blizzard and argue whether its snowing or not... I just love to argue sometimes.
-
Matt, I respect that you did post pics of yourself but why did people have to make fun and rip you apart? Did you like it? I'm sure you did not. I guess it's ok to give/ask for constructive criticism but making fun just to make themselve feel better, I think it's crummy and that's the problem with a lot of people here.
I know all that I'm saying will not change a things in the way things are handled here but a few people may understand what I'm talking about.
Max.
Thats absolutely true. Most of these kids are adolescent and insecure.Because I see them competing each other in the gym here also.And finally I say "Hey,if you wanna compete,why dont you try to be on stage.".
Then these kids tell me "Oh..I do this for my self and no need to demonstrate to the people." with pretending that he is a spiritual person or something. Just coward attitude. ·When I was a kid of that age,I was competing in swimming already.And I didnt need to compete against my friend or another out side of pool.
That make this board very boring.
And one recommendation to many kids here.
Even Ronnie will die and be forgoten someday like other kids who start BBing right now dont know Lee Haney-8 times Mr Olympia.
So dont kill the time with competing proving your ego, but just enjoy BBing and be a enthusiastic fan.