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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bast000 on August 13, 2006, 09:55:41 AM
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Here's a fact: the strongest pros juiced up were the strongest bodybuilders before they even touched the sauce. Levrone is just naturally stong
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1. Incredibly fluid benching motion.
2. Hilarious music.
3. Unreal how small he is today by comparison.
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Kevin wouldn't walk into a gym without drugs.
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You guy should STFU and get a Clue. Alll drugs? Id put all my money that none of the people that say this would come close to accomplishing what these "All drugs Pros" as you say have accomplished...thats a FACT.
Your on a bodybuilding board. Act like it..
Its fine to be a natty, but have respect for thos who chose to go the other route, especially an elite pro.
240, i thought you were more knowledgeable that to say clueless statements like that.
You have any idea (im sure you do) what one has to do to gain such muscle mass?
Dude, I east so much, that, when i think of a pros food bill a week, it makes me not even care to want to get that big! ITs expencive.
THe guy doesnt eat like that anymore, and, he is still bigger and in better shape than most amateurs.
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You guy should STFU and get a Clue. Alll drugs? Id put all my money that none of the people that say this would come close to accomplishing what these "All drugs Pros" as you say have accomplished...thats a FACT.
Your on a bodybuilding board. Act like it..
Its fine to be a natty, but have respect for thos who chose to go the other route, especially an elite pro.
you've been very much in admiration of Levrone since you posted that pic of you meeting him. And that's fine. Levrone is likely very strong naturally. And of course most on the boards have not accomplished what levrone has. I think only Jay Cutler can claim "Four time winner of Mr O runner-up title".
that being said, these days, kev looks like he's never trained in his life. From those golfing pics, he doesn't even look like an action star/actor anymore. He looks like a skinny 42-year old guy who is a little active. Seeing the huge dropoff does indicate he was a huge responder to gear.
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do we know what Kevin looked like before he juiced when and if he was training natural for awhile? NO, at least not that I've ever seen so to say that he's all drugs is pretty moronic. Yes he did drugs but there is some natural ability there. Not everyone on drugs can move that kind of weight or put on that kind of size. I don't think you can look at him now where he dropped weight for a reason and holds his weight at that for a reason, to be appealling to the public not to win a bodybuilding show. I doubt he really does anything in the gym anymore that would constitute a mass cycle.
I'm totally natural, never touched a god damn thing, my only supplements are some whey protien and a multivitiman and I don't get this holier than thou attitude around here towards guys that do roids. They just made different choices than I did, could I be as good as they are with drugs?? Don't know and never will but I could care less that they did em, doesn't change what I do in the gym or how I conduct myself...live and let live.
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you've been very much in admiration of Levrone since you posted that pic of you meeting him. And that's fine. Levrone is likely very strong naturally. And of course most on the boards have not accomplished what levrone has. I think only Jay Cutler can claim "Four time winner of Mr O runner-up title".
that being said, these days, kev looks like he's never trained in his life. From those golfing pics, he doesn't even look like an action star/actor anymore. He looks like a skinny 42-year old guy who is a little active. Seeing the huge dropoff does indicate he was a huge responder to gear.
Dude, he looks GREAT right NOW. You jus thave to realize, when you dont eat and train and do whatever else, its not the same! You and othe rpeople act like all these pros should look "almost" as big after they retire, its amazing!
It has nothng to do with me being a fan. Look at Dorian, he looks nothing like he used to..but you know what, they look good! They arent fat slobs, etc...levronie has sick genetics, and if he wanted to get pretty huge without using anything..hes running, eating low calroeis, just getting in camera/acting shape..
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Kevin wouldn't walk into a gym without drugs.
Since you obviously don't know what you're talking about...
Just STFU.
Levrone benchpressed 465 lbs @ 189 lbs. Clean.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=33055.msg337873#msg337873
You pansy.
YIP
Zack
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Since you obviously don't know what you're talking about...
Just STFU.
Levrone benchpressed 465 lbs @ 189 lbs. Clean.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=33055.msg337873#msg337873
You pansy.
YIP
Zack
meltdown
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Kevin wouldn't walk into a gym without drugs.
thats a pretty ignorant statement Bast, im dissapointed... :-\
There are plenty of pics of him training in the gym now..and he looks light years better than you.
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Yes, drugs are amazing.
Drugs will MAGICALLY give you full round muscle bellies, perfect structure, wide clavicles, long insertion and origin points, the ability to get super ripped and full, insane determination and commitment to training and diet, pro-like shape to your muscles, perfect proportions between muscle groups etc. etc.
LOL LOL LOL
All these clowns screaming "all drugs" need a reality check.
Roids, GH, slin and whatever else won't do jack shit if you don't have the genetics.
Sure, drugs are a HUGE part of the picture, but only when everything else is 100% there.
No DRUG can put IN what GOD(or your parents)left out...so get over it.
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meltdown
Meltdown?
Explain to me how this was a meltdown:
Since you obviously don't know what you're talking about...
Just STFU.
Levrone benchpressed 465 lbs @ 189 lbs. Clean.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=33055.msg337873#msg337873
You pansy.
YIP
Zack
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Zack
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uh oh. meltdown callout. better back it up, bastion. detail the meltdown.
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You guy should STFU and get a Clue. Alll drugs? Id put all my money that none of the people that say this would come close to accomplishing what these "All drugs Pros" as you say have accomplished...thats a FACT.
Your on a bodybuilding board. Act like it..
Its fine to be a natty, but have respect for thos who chose to go the other route, especially an elite pro.
240, i thought you were more knowledgeable that to say clueless statements like that.
You have any idea (im sure you do) what one has to do to gain such muscle mass?
Dude, I east so much, that, when i think of a pros food bill a week, it makes me not even care to want to get that big! ITs expencive.
THe guy doesnt eat like that anymore, and, he is still bigger and in better shape than most amateurs.
I have said nothing about this and I cannot resist this time. You stated in the previous thread that Levrone was still "huge". You then posted pictures in which he looked tiny claiming I was crazy to say that an average gym goer with good genetics a little knowledge and a work ethic looked about the same.
Levrone at one time was one of the worlds best. Great genetics. But to claim he did not respond extremley well to drugs is stupid.
monster delusions
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Hedgehog masturbates to 'M3'
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Hedge, dont bother.. BAst is usually good when it comes to topics like this, maybe today hes a little tipsy.
Yeah, you see all these wannabes trying to be a pro, they all look like dogshit juiced to the gills, and then you hear comments like Basts "All juice"...No sir, its not... these top pros have a genetic gift of being able to have world class physiques..them, and the up and coming top amateurs.
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I have said nothing about this and I cannot resist this time. You stated in the previous thread that Levrone was still "huge". You then posted pictures in which he looked tiny claiming I was crazy to say that an average gym goer with good genetics a little knowledge and a work ethic looked about the same.
levrone looked to be 180 and untrained at that golf tourney. of course, we all agree he has world class genetics. But, when you say "he is still bigger and in better shape than most amateurs", I think you are incorrect.
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You do keep some of your gains after using though.
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Hedge, dont bother.. BAst is usually good when it comes to topics like this, maybe today hes a little tipsy.
Yeah, you see all these wannabes trying to be a pro, they all look like dogshit juiced to the gills, and then you hear comments like Basts "All juice"...No sir, its not... these top pros have a genetic gift of being able to have world class physiques..them, and the up and coming top amateurs.
i pm'd you
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Bast may be bitter becuase he can't get any bigger than 150lbs :-X
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Bast may be bitter becuase he can't get any bigger than 150lbs :-X
kevin started taking steroids for the same reason.
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Kevin was a great bodybuilder and had a stellar career. I am sure he could once again be in contention for the O if that was his goal these days
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kevin is doing too well as a D-list Actor to do that.
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This guy is truely AMAZING....great strength while in GREAT condition (that's tough, it's hard just to get to the gym when your sucked out like that) and within a month after a contest he races a medalist at the Olympics in running and does good....I'm not sure what his time was that day but I'd be interested to know if it would have qualifies him for the team or for a national team...does anyone know? He is a TRUE athlete..very talented, gifted guy all around.
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Steroids build a lot of muscle, but they aren't going to make you strong if you aren't already strong. Anyone benching 550 with steroids could probably do 450-500 without drugs. Guys like Bast would be lucky to bench 315 on steroids. That's the truth.
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Steroids build a lot of muscle, but they aren't going to make you strong if you aren't already strong. Anyone benching 550 with steroids could probably do 450-500 without drugs. Guys like Bast would be lucky to bench 315 on steroids. That's the truth.
If bast went on gear imagine what would happen to his already perculiar head :-\
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Hedgehog masturbates to 'M3'
Why you are trying to steer this topic into me and my masturbation practice I have no idea.
Ask me about that stuff on the Sex board if you have to, doubt I answer, but at least you will be on topic.
Now, what about that meltdown Bast?
Since you obviously don't know what you're talking about...
Just STFU.
Levrone benchpressed 465 lbs @ 189 lbs. Clean.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=33055.msg337873#msg337873
You pansy.
YIP
Zack
meltdown
Where is the meltdown?
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Zack
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88881.0;attach=95869;image)
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kevin started taking steroids for the same reason.
you should take steroids then ???
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Levrone isn't "almost" as big as when he used to compete. He's not even close.
Where did you read that? I would never state something so ignorant.
I stated some people expect retired pros to look almost as big as they were when competing..Thats what I said.
Steroids build a lot of muscle, but they aren't going to make you strong if you aren't already strong. Anyone benching 550 with steroids could probably do 450-500 without drugs. Guys like Bast would be lucky to bench 315 on steroids. That's the truth.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE A CLUE.
No wonder Sarcasm rips you up all the time, that has to be one of the most RETARTED statements I have heard in a While.
BAst not only would be strong (as everyone that is on gear) , but with his physique he would be winning lots of shows. He has lots of potential, for a freaky physique.
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Yeah exactly, and he isn't "almost" as big. He's not even close.
I never said hes almost as big you fuking retard.
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THe guy doesnt eat like that anymore, and, he is still bigger and in better shape than most amateurs.
Herc,
Do you honestly believe that Kevin Levrone is still
1) Bigger
2) In better shape
Than most amateurs?
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Herc,
Do you honestly believe that Kevin Levrone is still
1) Bigger
2) In better shape
Than most amateurs?
Hes not "tiny" as you prtray him to be. Netiher id Dorian. Even when posing next to fans, he looks better..He jus thas the natrually, muscular, lean physique, do you understand what I mean 240? Some folks are just naturally muscular, and respond to weight training and everything else like wildfire. Are you getting my point? Because it seems you are being rather stubborn on a basic, well known fact.
Look at you, you train your ass off, and, well, you look like shit, right? My point is, Levronie even now at your self proclaimed 180lb bashig of the guy on the golf course, looks better than you! and hes not even trying, or thinking, or remotely caring about bodybuilding! any your all into it!
man, some folks are just so damn DENSE! its annoying.
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Hes not "tiny" as you prtray him to be. Netiher id Dorian. Even when posing next to fans, he looks better..He jus thas the natrually, muscular, lean physique, do you understand what I mean 240? Some folks are just naturally muscular, and respond to weight training and everything else like wildfire. Are you getting my point? Because it seems you are being rather stubborn on a basic, well known fact.
I agree he has great genetics. I disagree with your statement that "he is still bigger and in better shape than most amateurs"
Do you really believe that kevin Levrone is bigger and in better shape that most amateurs?
(And yes, I just love to argue for the sake of it :) )
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Herc,
Do you honestly believe that Kevin Levrone is still
1) Bigger
2) In better shape
Than most amateurs?
Just saw Kevin at starbucks this morning and he said it's all his agent's fault; gay Hollywood execs wants him to look androgenious, turns them on...
See it this way , if Strydom & all can come back at 47+ and still look amazing Kevin could do the same; all a question of focus and priorities...
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My point is that he isn't "almost" as big as he was - he is not ANYTHING CLOSE to being as big as he was. We don't expect retired pros to be "almost" as big as their competitive days - we expect them to look like they workout with weights.
well tell me something i dont already know- if you agree with me thats fine, dont project that fact TO ME as if I didnt think that already-. IM saying for the folks that say "look how tiny they look" thats what im saying, that its not happening, its like night and day, but the elements to be that are still there..."ALL DRUGS" isnt true...thats my damn point..You can take BOATLOADS OF DRUGS, ILL EVEN GO AS FAR AS SAYING and EVEN EAT ALMOST AS GOOD AS A PRO, AND TRIANING LIKE ONE, AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE? MOst likely one of the NOBODY amateurs in a NAtional QUalifier, that can never get their pro card! DO you Feel me??? ONLY FEW have the genetics to push them to that PRO ELite status..THere are LOTS of TOP amateurs that LOOK HUGE in the gym , etc..then onstage, they FADE AWAY next to TOP amateurs with TOP genetics.
THis is my point.
240----> Obviously hes not, wha ti meant was recreational lifters, you know, like most of us on here..hell, even some that compete..im not saying top amateurs, like guys going for their pro card..but again, hes not trainign man! I BET if he ATE and Trainined, he would look better than MOST CLEAN! He has thos AWESOME GENES! 8)
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Kevin looks like he is in the 200's IMO from the clip of his movie
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Kevin looks like he is in the 200's IMO from the clip of his movie
I know, thats what i think, but lots of dense folks here that cant come to grasp he looks GREAT now, post career.
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Of course he looks great. I would rather look like he does now than when he was competing, but the point being made is that he is night and day compared to his competitive days.
Of course man!!. I would give both my nuts to have those genes. Lots of people have what it takes to be a pro, work etihic, dedication, drive...but why dont we hear about them? They look pretty awesome, right? But they are NOT a Levronie, A COLEMAN, a CUTLER...thats my point...look at the tier2, and tier 3 pros! Its sad if you think about it...you need those AWESOME genes...
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Kevin could blow up and come in at his best ever at the Ironman 2007, that would be awesome 8)
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Kevin could blow up and come in at his best ever at the Ironman 2007, that would be awesome 8)
Levrone could probably go all out for 6 months and come in 3rd at the O.
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Levrone could probably go all out for 6 months and come in 3rd second at the O.
;D
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Levrone could probably go all out for 6 months and come in 3rd at the O.
Yes, you are seeing the light now. 8)
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Where is Earl ?
he will soon do his daily research for the word "Levrone" and he will find the thread ;D
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Yes, you are seeing the light now. 8)
Lavrone would easily win the ironman....Maybe even the Arnold in 6 months..
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this video is exactly what i'm talking about when i bring up pros inflated weights, he got 3 reps on his own and 1 with a spot with 495 and six reps on the incline with 405, all the shit you hear about levrone benching 600 is just bullshit 600 would absolutely crush him.
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this video is exactly what i'm talking about when i bring up pros inflated weights, he got 3 reps on his own and 1 with a spot with 495 and six reps on the incline with 405, all the shit you hear about levrone benching 600 is just bullshit 600 would absolutely crush him.
he's also 12 days out of the olympia ;)
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I never said hes almost as big you fuking retard.
Haha you posted recent pictures of levrone in my thread at about 190 and claimed he was "huge". Then went on to tell me I was an idiot for saying most regular gym goers with good genetics and a good work ethic looked just as good as what he looked like now.
Levrone was one of the best ever. Could pump a ton of sauce into his ass and prob finish top 5 at The 06 O. But he obviously had an extreme response to drugs.
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Levrone is not in as good as shape as some guys who go play some pickup basketball in the afternoons.
That's not the point.
After thousands of hours in the gym, hundreds of pounds of supplements, drugs, etc, etc, he should be in great shape. There should be a "base-line" amount of muscle there.
The fact is, you wouldn't notice him in line at the post office.
In 6-9 months, he could look phenominal, IF given the right *supplements.* Big deal.
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Yes, drugs are amazing.
Drugs will MAGICALLY give you full round muscle bellies, perfect structure, wide clavicles, long insertion and origin points, the ability to get super ripped and full, insane determination and commitment to training and diet, pro-like shape to your muscles, perfect proportions between muscle groups etc. etc.
LOL LOL LOL
All these clowns screaming "all drugs" need a reality check.
Roids, GH, slin and whatever else won't do jack shit if you don't have the genetics.
Sure, drugs are a HUGE part of the picture, but only when everything else is 100% there.
No DRUG can put IN what GOD(or your parents)left out...so get over it.
Dude, I read the first line of this and I automatically thought of you....haah Turns out, it's your post. Muscle bellies!!! You have a good point there though, joking aside. Where are you training these days? I hear Ben is a bit bigger. Is he still natural? ::)
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Yes, drugs are amazing.
Drugs will MAGICALLY give you full round muscle bellies, perfect structure, wide clavicles, long insertion and origin points, the ability to get super ripped and full, insane determination and commitment to training and diet, pro-like shape to your muscles, perfect proportions between muscle groups etc. etc.
LOL LOL LOL
All these clowns screaming "all drugs" need a reality check.
Roids, GH, slin and whatever else won't do jack shit if you don't have the genetics.
this is all that needs to be said.
if i JUICEDTO THE GILLS right now i still wouldnt be close to what levrone was. genes are EVERY BIT as important as the juice. id say its 50% genes, then 50% juice. to be a top pro, before you juice, you need to have elite genes. anyone denying this is a fucking moron.
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look at that homo trying to physch up kev. hahha what a fag
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this is all that needs to be said.
if i JUICEDTO THE GILLS right now i still wouldnt be close to what levrone was. genes are EVERY BIT as important as the juice. id say its 50% genes, then 50% juice. to be a top pro, before you juice, you need to have elite genes. anyone denying this is a fucking moron.
True, I don't disagree. But drugs simply raise the bar for everyone. The guy with good genetics takes drugs, the guy with poor genetics takes drugs. And they both look better than they would without drugs.
With drugs, you must still train very hard, diet, etc, etc. The point is: THEY'D NEVER HAVE REACHED THAT PEAK WITHOUT THE DRUGS.
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Dude, I read the first line of this and I automatically thought of you....haah Turns out, it's your post. Muscle bellies!!! You have a good point there though, joking aside. Where are you training these days? I hear Ben is a bit bigger. Is he still natural? ::)
Kynan..what's up bro?
You need to face the facts and admit that those d-bols and the test. you ran back in 93' is what gave you
your awesome calves and that it has nothing to do with genetics... ::) ::)
Super long 15 year half-life dbols.
LOL ......
Ben is thick as brick. All veiny and swole up like a balloon.
At least 260 with a six pack and he has cross-striations on his outer quads.
Yeah, he's natural ..just ask his dealer. ;D
We're both at NYSC in Croton.
You need to come back to NY and get with the program.
Now a guy with your genetics and work ethic would equal one thick mofo with awesome shape
and flow.
"all drugs" hahahahaha tell that to the average gym rat running 1-2 grams/week with 16" arms who
looks like his body was slapped together by Dr. Frankensteins drunk apprentice.
Cycling is all drugs too...a little EPO and test. and anyone can win the Tour de France.
hahah hahhhaaa LOL
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this video is exactly what i'm talking about when i bring up pros inflated weights, he got 3 reps on his own and 1 with a spot with 495 and six reps on the incline with 405, all the shit you hear about levrone benching 600 is just bullshit 600 would absolutely crush him.
I'm not sure about that, Sarcasm. He could probably get middle to high 5's for a single on that day. 10 days out I know that my own strength is much decreased so I could see him in the 6 range a couple weeks after show , give or take.
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The man was very strong. He showed superior control with the 495 lbs and did it slow and with no arch. VERY impressive.
I also agree that he seemed to respond especially well to the drugs considering how he looks now. I know that wants to be smaller for movie roles and such but I also think that he is just a guy that is extremely receptive to anabolics.
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YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE A CLUE.
No wonder Sarcasm rips you up all the time, that has to be one of the most RETARTED statements I have heard in a While.
BAst not only would be strong (as everyone that is on gear) , but with his physique he would be winning lots of shows. He has lots of potential, for a freaky physique.
You're an idiot. There are a ton of drug users who are pathetically weak on the basic lifts. Very, very few will ever come close to a 500 lb bench. Only the freakiest, most naturally strong men will ever lift that kind of weight.
Steroids aren't going to make you strong if you aren't already strong. From what I've seen, an advanced lifter might gain 50 lb on his bench and 75 lb on his squat and deadlift with steroids. These guys who can rep 500 lb on the bench are freaks of nature, plain and simple. Take away the drugs, and they would still bury you in the gym.
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I was joking.
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Yeah, I wondered about Ben. When did he go the gear route? Remember, the secret is to do a bunch for 2 months when you're 18, then stop, lose all your size. Begin eating jelly beans and Ben n' Jerry's Jerry Garcia twice a day. Resume training, dial your diet, post on getbig daily, gain 70lbs lean mass in the next 4 years. It's the perfect forumla.
So, are you guys coming out this year for the Olympia? You both flaked last year, nice.Oh brother...classic.
Your both welcome to stay here for the Olympia. The normal dues will apply: Monster Reach Around, followed by a shot of Whey. ;D
check your pm's !!!
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You're an idiot. There are a ton of drug users who are pathetically weak on the basic lifts. Very, very few will ever come close to a 500 lb bench. Only the freakiest, most naturally strong men will ever lift that kind of weight.
Steroids aren't going to make you strong if you aren't already strong. From what I've seen, an advanced lifter might gain 50 lb on his bench and 75 lb on his squat and deadlift with steroids. These guys who can rep 500 lb on the bench are freaks of nature, plain and simple. Take away the drugs, and they would still bury you in the gym.
So Ronnie would be squatting 725lbs for reps naturally.
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I stay away from getbig for a full day and we are talking about this again ::)
I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU HATERS TO QUIT WORKING OUT AND EATING HIGH PROTEIN DIET FOR 6 MONTHS AND LETS SEE HOW MUCH OF A BEAST YOU ARE >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
LEVRONEITES UNITE 8)
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accept my challenge and prove me wrong
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That was a phenomenal feat of strength. Kevin rocks. He won his share of shows and has always been a top 5 bbdr. He has nothing more to proove to anyone. He's retired and he had a stellar career. Let they guy move on. :-*
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Even I would probably not shrink much more than Levrone is right now. I don't think he is quite my weight, he looks under 190, maybe 175 or so. And I am highly ectomorphic. Some of the bigger guys (mesomorphs) on the board would definitely keep more size than Levrone did. I would be a bad example.
it won't matter what your bodytype is, any muscle that you built in the gym is unnessesary for survival therefore when you quit training and dieting you will lose it
remember he hasn't competed in nearly 3 years
it's funny how this thread is so quiet all of a sudden, nobody would accept my challenge haha 8)
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Even I would probably not shrink much more than Levrone is right now. I don't think he is quite my weight, he looks under 190, maybe 175 or so. And I am highly ectomorphic. Some of the bigger guys (mesomorphs) on the board would definitely keep more size than Levrone did. I would be a bad example.
i think levrone deliberately lost a lot of weight for acting purposes
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Then he must have literally starved himself because it's truly mind boggling how much weight he lost.
if i recall interviews with him, he says he really starting eating a lot less and doing nothing but cardio at the gym
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Did "240" just accuse Levrone of "looking like he never trained in his life". Did I actually just read that??
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that being said, these days, kev looks like he's never trained in his life. From those golfing pics, he doesn't even look like an action star/actor anymore. He looks like a skinny 42-year old guy who is a little active. Seeing the huge dropoff does indicate he was a huge responder to gear.
Looks like it.
Your point, mon ami?
YIP
Zack
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Since Adonis was absent yesterday, I thought I'd start controversy over steroids in bodybuilding for him.
Kevin still looks good now off the drugs.
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Since Adonis was absent yesterday, I thought I'd start controversy over steroids in bodybuilding for him.
Kevin still looks good now off the drugs.
Just out of curiosity:
Why are you trying to explain your actions on an internet board?
YIP
Zack
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Just out of curiosity:
Why are you trying to explain your actions on an internet board?
YIP
Zack
don't be upset that you had a tantrum while I was merely joking.
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Then he must have literally starved himself because it's truly mind boggling how much weight he lost.
is 40-60 pounds really alot to lose in 3 years?
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