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Title: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: the shadow on August 16, 2006, 06:00:11 AM
jay is pretty confident that he will beat coleman this year...yeah in his dreams...
http://www.flexonline.com/news/140
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: nycbull on August 16, 2006, 10:37:43 AM
doesn't load dude
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Jr. Yates on August 16, 2006, 10:44:09 AM
I really do feel sorry for Jay. He may never get it.
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Hulkster on August 16, 2006, 11:03:15 AM
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So you know, with all the respect to him, and all the other athletes, I just want to beat the guy. And you know what, when I do beat him, you know people are going to make excuses (about) why I beat him. And say, ‘Maybe he’s over the hill’ or ‘He didn’t look his best.’ But you know what? First is first. You take it the way it comes. People are always going to have opinions.

and those people would be right.

Jay, as big as he is, could never beat Ronnie at his best..

(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp0029.jpg)
sorry Jay.

Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Matt C on August 16, 2006, 11:17:04 AM
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Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Spike on August 16, 2006, 11:27:58 AM
I think I overestimated Jay's intelligence or at least his insight.  It is completely irrelevant if he deserves to win or not - he won't win, period.  First off, it's unlikely that he can come in and have a good enough showing to even beat Ronnie to begin with, but even IF he did (which is possible), he will still lose!  It's just how the judging goes.

Riddle me this:

In 2004 during the challenge round, Ronnie beat Dexter in the abs and thigh challenge, and it's cited that Ronnie has a superior lat span and larger thighs.  Then Markus goes up against Dexter and low and behold, Markus too has a superior lat span and larger thighs and Dexter beats Markus.

Somebody please explain this corrupt judging decision to me like I'm a two year old.  ::)

Actually, wait, I got it - IT'S CALLED POLITICS.  It is the nature of any subjective judging, and is definitely present in bodybuilding shows.  Just ask Steve Weinberger if you want to hear another story about the politics of bodybuilding (involving his wife Bev).

Jay will lose WHETHER OR NOT HE DESERVES TO.  I previously did think Jay was a pretty intelligent guy, at least relative to his peers, but now I don't know.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/challengeroundflaws.html

or in 2005 in the challenge round everyone called side tricep next to big Ron and GUSTAVO won...
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Disgusted on August 16, 2006, 11:54:14 AM

Riddle me this:

In 2004 during the challenge round, Ronnie beat Dexter in the abs and thigh challenge, and it's cited that Ronnie has a superior lat span and larger thighs.  Then Markus goes up against Dexter and low and behold, Markus too has a superior lat span and larger thighs and Dexter beats Markus.

Somebody please explain this corrupt judging decision to me like I'm a two year old.  ::)


Markus does not have the detail that Ronnie does little boy ;) It takes more than just superior sizer to beat someone.  Riddle solved.  ;D
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Hulkster on August 16, 2006, 11:59:42 AM
Markus does not have the detail that Ronnie does little boy ;) It takes more than just superior sizer to beat someone.  Riddle solved.  ;D

aqreed.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2004olympia_mro238.jpg)
as you can see, Ronnie's ab and thigh was not nearly as bad as everyone was making it out to be...
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Slick Vic on August 16, 2006, 12:43:43 PM
jay is pretty confident that he will beat coleman this year
Sorry - ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: Jr. Yates on August 16, 2006, 12:46:58 PM
Im not even going to anticipate this years results.
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: swilkins1984 on August 16, 2006, 12:55:42 PM
I won't say that Jay can't beat Ronnie, but he would have had to make ALOT of improvements this year to take down Ronnie.  Best bet is to bring his weight back closer to 2001 Olympia shape while keeping the back detail that he has so far improved on since then.  Can't beat Ronnie with size conditioning and symmetry are the only possible way IMO. Not that Ronnie doesn't have these too though  :)
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: thisiskeith12 on August 16, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
Ronnie hasn't been at his best since 1999. He will fall, I will cheer!
Title: Re: jay cutler wants to beat coleman so bad.....
Post by: IFBBwannaB on August 16, 2006, 02:14:45 PM
Markus does not have the detail that Ronnie does little boy ;) It takes more than just superior sizer to beat someone.  Riddle solved.  ;D

Yep ,and Markus got funky synthol suspecious lats.Thicker gut then Coleman,less detail and size on his quads,a worse taper ..you name it.