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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: blinky on August 16, 2006, 01:41:59 PM
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just saw a story on the new that police have apparently arrested someone for killing jonbenet ramsey. missed the first part of the story as to where he/she was caught. no names released yet but might be at a press conference later today.
always though it was the mom or dad :-\
should be interesting to see who they arrested
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I TOLD Beach Bum they had reopened the case but he wouldn't believe me. >:(
They caught the guy in Thailand, where else? He's a pedophile.
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i heard he was being brought back to the US but didnt hear from where. did you hear anything else?
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I TOLD Beach Bum they had reopened the case but he wouldn't believe me. >:(
They caught the guy in Thailand, where else? He's a pedophile.
I never said they didn't reopen the case. We disagreed on the identity of the killer. The link to the story is below. I'm not convinced . . . yet. I'll be eating some major crow if this guy is the killer. I just don't see it. IMO, it would be like looking for the real killer of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman. This guy apparently confessed to elements of the crime known to the public, which isn't uncommon with some nuts. Let's see if they can place him in Boulder on the night of the murder. I'm not holding my breath.
That said, I've been wrong before. I thought Richard Jewell was guilty as sin, but that was just based on observing him answer questions. He just looked and sounded guilty. We'll see if I'm wrong again.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/16/ramsey.arrest/index.html
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I think saying the killer is "caught" is a little premature. This will take a while to play itself out. I do certainly hope they solve this crime being a parent of a little girl myself.
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News reports state that he is describing details of the murder that is unknown to the public. Also, they state that he had been emailing Patsy Ramsey before her death...detailing the sexual assault.
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News reports state that he is describing details of the murder that is unknown to the public. Also, they state that he had been emailing Patsy Ramsey before her death...detailing the sexual assault.
I'd sure like to know what details aren't known to the public. Everything from autopsy reports to police interviews to grand jury testimony has been in the public domain for years.
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I'd sure like to know what details aren't known to the public. Everything from autopsy reports to police interviews to grand jury testimony has been in the public domain for years.
I recall something about how she was strangled...ligature something or other...was something unknown. Dr. Lee was a guest and he mentioned that they would have to do handwriting analysis and compare it to the note that was left at the scene.
John Karr is the guy's name.
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I recall something about how she was strangled...ligature something or other...was something unknown. Dr. Lee was a guest and he mentioned that they would have to do handwriting analysis and compare it to the note that was left at the scene.
John Karr is the guy's name.
The blow to the head is actually what killed her. Her body was staged to make it look like she was sexually assaulted and strangled.
The killer wrote the ransom note, so this guy's writing sample will speak volumes. The only person who was never eliminated as the author of the ransom note (who provided samples) was Patsy Ramsey.
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Good and Bad... Good he's caught, if he's the one who did it, FUCKING BAD BECAUSE IT'S ALL WE WILL HEAR ABOUT FOR MONTHS... EVERY MAG COVER, EVERY NEWS UPDATE, OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL I'M BEGGING FOR THE RETURN OF MS. CLEO.... >:(
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yeah woopedy doo, concentrate your money on other things you fucking dingbats, all i could say now is she would probably be hot and on magazines!
DAMN YOU KILLER!
DAMN YOU TO HELL!
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That said, I've been wrong before. I thought Richard Jewell was guilty as sin, but that was just based on observing him answer questions. He just looked and sounded guilty.
I hope you and millions of people learn from this.
Circumstances combined with wrong “intuition,” prejudice, and biogtry have tagged many innocent people as guilty. I don’t know why so many people--who have no training in the area--think they can tell when someone is lying or guilty. Just because you know when your friend, spouse, or child is lying doesn’t make you an expert in dissembling particularly when lives are at stake. :(
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I hope you and millions of people learn from this.
Circumstances combined with wrong “intuition,” prejudice, and biogtry have tagged many innocent people as guilty. I don’t know why so many people--who have no training in the area--think they can tell when someone is lying or guilty. Just because you know when your friend, spouse, or child is lying doesn’t make you an expert dissembling particularly when lives are at stake. :(
well said.
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Good and Bad... Good he's caught, if he's the one who did it, FUCKING BAD BECAUSE IT'S ALL WE WILL HEAR ABOUT FOR MONTHS... EVERY MAG COVER, EVERY NEWS UPDATE, OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL I'M BEGGING FOR THE RETURN OF MS. CLEO.... >:(
They caught the guy after 10 years and you are complaining because you will have to read about it or see it on TV? Have some compassion and stop worrying about yourself.
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John Mark Karr, 41, told reporters: "I was with JonBenet when she died. Her death was an accident."
Looks like he's accepting his guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4800851.stm
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Looks like he's accepting his guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4800851.stm
wow
he says it was an accident. from what ive heard of her injuries...theres no way all those injuries were an accident. but then again what else is he gonna say
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wow
he says it was an accident. from what ive heard of her injuries...theres no way all those injuries were an accident. but then again what else is he gonna say
I think the skull fracture was an accident... he (apparently there may have been someone else with him) or they, had wanted to abduct her, but then the damage was done so he (they) staged the rest.
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John Karr, convicted sex offender and 2nd grade school teacher. HOW THE F*** IS A CONVECTED SEX OFFENDER ALLOWED TO TEACH 2ND GRADE ANYWAY??? >:(
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I hope you and millions of people learn from this.
Circumstances combined with wrong “intuition,” prejudice, and biogtry have tagged many innocent people as guilty. I don’t know why so many people--who have no training in the area--think they can tell when someone is lying or guilty. Just because you know when your friend, spouse, or child is lying doesn’t make you an expert in dissembling particularly when lives are at stake. :(
Dude get off your soap box. Prejudice and bigotry had absolutely nothing to do with my mistaken belief that Richard Jewell was the Olympic Park bomber. I simply made a mistake. I'm actually very good at determining whether someone is lying, but I'm not always right (obviously).
Prejudice and bigotry has absolutely nothing to do with my belief that JonBenet was not killed by an intruder. I read several books on the subject and then came to a conclusion. I may turn out to be wrong, but it's just a tad early to make that determination.
If this guy is guilty I expect to be receiving messages from around the world from former students. :-[
Still lots of unanswered questions including, among other things, the writing sample, how he knew about John Ramsey's $118,000 bonus, and placing him in the house the night of the murder:
"Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, told KGO-TV in California that she does not believe her former husband killed JonBenet because he was with her in Alabama at the time."
:-\
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Dude get off your soap box. Prejudice and bigotry had absolutely nothing to do with my mistaken belief that Richard Jewell was the Olympic Park bomber. I simply made a mistake. I'm actually very good at determining whether someone is lying, but I'm not always right (obviously).
I'd mock you... but you beat me to it.
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I've just heard on the radio that this John Karr character has just admitted to drugging and having sex with her
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I've just heard on the radio that this John Karr character has just admitted to drugging and having sex with her
That's another thing that leads to more questions because the autopsy found NO DRUGS in her system.
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“He said it was second-degree murder. He said it was unintentional,” Suwat said. He said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked JonBenet up at her school and brought her to the family’s basement"
that doesn't go with the facts at all. Picked her up at school on Christmas day?
???
According to the Ramseys, they were at a party till late in the evening. They carried JonBenet to bed, sleeping, and left her there sometime before midnight. This guy's story smells funny already.
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I'd mock you... but you beat me to it.
Ding! ;D Sort of lets the air out of your balloon, no? ;D
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That's another thing that leads to more questions because the autopsy found NO DRUGS in her system.
Correct. The plot sickens. This guy is lolo.
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He didn't do it.
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The guys a nut, but an innocent nut, someone in the house killed her, take your pick on which one.
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Yet the father seems to be accepting it as the truth 100%. Maybe he's got some guys hunting him down and about to make him disappear unless he says he did it.hahaha, don't mind me here but the whole story aint out yet.
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I haven't the foggiest if the guy is guilty or not. What I found disturbing was the news report that the dude is teaching grade school even though he is a convicted sex offender (I believe it was on cnn, not sure)
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There are alot of pedophiles out there who are grade school teachers or are otherwise exposed to young children. The majority of them have never been convicted and aren't known.
As a little experiment go into an online chatroom and type "11/f/usa looking for guy to talk to". Wait a few seconds and you will get a barrage of instant messages from mostly men who are in their 20's or 30's. Dozens of them.
I tried it a few times after watching that southpark episode.
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I haven't the foggiest if the guy is guilty or not. What I found disturbing was the news report that the dude is teaching grade school even though he is a convicted sex offender (I believe it was on cnn, not sure)
I think news reports said he lost his teaching credentials in '02.
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he wasn't convicted, he didn't show up for his court date and went on the run.
i don't think he did it.
I guess the dna test will tell.
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ya different things about his story dont seem right.
im almost thinkin someone is making him do this
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im almost thinkin someone is making him do this
Carlyle Group?
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im almost thinkin someone is making him do this
either that or he's a sick f*ck who wantssome attention or something theres been numerous cases of people who just aint all there admitting to crimes that they havent done because of the high profile of the case and so forth i think it's f*cked but people do, do it
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wow...
Parents did it. Someone wrote a 370-word ransom note using a marker and notepad from the Ramsey house. how many intruders take that kinda time?
Plus the DA is trying to soften the blow to us when he is found NOT to be the guy. Dude confessed to the ramsey killing to dodge some beef he had in Bangkok. Free trip to the USA, free chance to live his fantasy, and maybe a book deal.
he's not the guy. he's just a nutjob who wants attention.
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free chance to live his fantasy, and maybe a book deal.
he's not the guy. he's just a nutjob who wants attention.
i wish he had some integrity . . . like the 9/11 whistleblowers.
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either that or he's a sick f*ck who wantssome attention or something theres been numerous cases of people who just aint all there admitting to crimes that they havent done because of the high profile of the case and so forth i think it's f*cked but people do, do it
that could definately be it
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I hope you and millions of people learn from this.
Circumstances combined with wrong “intuition,” prejudice, and biogtry have tagged many innocent people as guilty. I don’t know why so many people--who have no training in the area--think they can tell when someone is lying or guilty. Just because you know when your friend, spouse, or child is lying doesn’t make you an expert in dissembling particularly when lives are at stake. :(
What's the story here?
YIP
Zack
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just saw a news report that even the investigators are having doubts about his story now
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I haven't the foggiest if the guy is guilty or not. What I found disturbing was the news report that the dude is teaching grade school even though he is a convicted sex offender (I believe it was on cnn, not sure)
My friend is on the NYPD and carries a gun yet a few years ago he held his own family hostage and went to the looney bin for a while. This kind of stuff doesn't surprise me.
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They caught the guy after 10 years and you are complaining because you will have to read about it or see it on TV? Have some compassion and stop worrying about yourself.
Lets see if i can do this right... entering 80's mode for bmacsys... Ahem.... "Your a neo maxi zoom dweebie!" :P
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This nut won't be arrested. I'm shocked . . . not.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/index.html
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Lets see if i can do this right... entering 80's mode for bmacsys... Ahem.... "Your a neo maxi zoom dweebie!" :P
Right back at ya Berserker! :P
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well last night he was rearrested after his release..stemming from child pornograhphy charges in cali..wonder if he will fight extradition to cali
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so now that hes not the guy....does the shift in suspision go back on the parents?
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well last night he was rearrested after his release..stemming from child pornograhphy charges in cali..wonder if he will fight extradition to cali
Hey Mom, is your avatar a new pic of princess jacqueline?
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so now that hes not the guy....does the shift in suspision go back on the parents?
The DA doesn't believe the parents did it. I suspect the answer to questions died with Patsy Ramsey.
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Some of us knew this already:
"As far as we can tell, there is no physical evidence in this case that has not been in the public domain," Lacy said. "The ability of our office or any law enforcement to connect this kind of a person - based on something they know about it that no one else knows - was gone a long time ago."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/J/JONBENET_RAMSEY?SITE=HIHAD&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Interesting that Homeland Security was the department chosen to arrest, hold, and transport him.
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Dude.
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Dude.
LOL... it's a stretch. But, on the other forums, many predicted there would be a series of human interest, 2-week stories invented all of a sudden to occupy the media from covering the 911 movement, which was getting serious media coverage in early to mid-July. The foiled bombings (how many of them have been released now? lol), the jon benet, now this utah guy who married young girls...
Yes, interesting stories. But why are we watching 'breaking news' of hour #12 of John Mark's plane trip while there are far more important stories in the world?
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LOL... it's a stretch. But, on the other forums, many predicted there would be a series of human interest, 2-week stories invented all of a sudden to occupy the media from covering the 911 movement, which was getting serious media coverage in early to mid-July. The foiled bombings (how many of them have been released now? lol), the jon benet, now this utah guy who married young girls...
Yes, interesting stories. But why are we watching 'breaking news' of hour #12 of John Mark's plane trip while there are far more important stories in the world?
Because JonBenet is one of the most notorious murder cases in American history.
A better question is why was this story national news to begin with ten years ago? We have a story almost as intriguing in Hawaii (Peter boy), but it did not make national headlines. This is the manipulation of news and events by the media. The media actually dictates what we talk about, based on what they decide to cover. If they want us to talk about wife murders, we do. If they want us to talk about kidnapped and/or missing children, we do. If they want us to talk about adultery by members of Congress, we do. Now THERE is a conspiracy. :)
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yep. Which is why the recent change in their views- suddenly they're bashing republicans a lot - is so noteworthy.
I am a news junkie. I recognize their trends, I smell their lies. I listen all day as I work. I will see an event happen, and it's always 'breaking news' with a sensational headline at 10:45 AM on a weekday. Then, by the time people check their email at lunch, the real story is up on cnn.com. it's so predictable. And the news changes a lot too. Many, many news archieves leading up to 911 were deleted. most of the major newspapers, etc. They all just removed their newspaper archieves for those dates, after people started scouring them for clues that we knew about 911. Every time there was a small press release that so-and-so bought this stock in american airlines on 9/5, or these 20 guys in power all cancelled their flights on 9/11... it adds up.
and their deletions of it make them look even more guilty.
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That said, I've been wrong before. We'll see if I'm wrong again.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/16/ramsey.arrest/index.html
Nobodies perfect.We are all wrong sometimes....even me.
Just yesterday I had a disagreement with a coworker and I told him I was wrong and he was right....then I found out later that I was actually right all along.....so I was wrong about me being wrong.
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More importantly, that guy has to decide either to get the sex change as planned, or get a shot of test ASAP.
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selling his story in a book or movie deal could give him the money to cover the operation.
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More importantly, that guy has to decide either to get the sex change as planned, or get a shot of test ASAP.
Monster 9" neck.