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Keith/Rob,
Will the NOC be webcasted?
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Keith/Rob,
Will the NOC be webcasted?
??? ::)
It has been said Wayne doesn't like the internet. That is why he doesn't have a web page.
The only option is to take about a million Polaroids and drive to everybodies house and flip them real fast so you get a little movie.
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??? ::)
It has been said Wayne doesn't like the internet. That is why he doesn't have a web page.
The only option is to take about a million Polaroids and drive to everybodies house and flip them real fast so you get a little movie.
Ah rack that's funny.
Doesn't like the internet my ass. He loves it because it gets people talking and without it who would know about the NOC? He knows exactly what is being said on this board just like everyone else in the industry.
"Oh someone told me they posted xyz, that's the only reason I went on getbig"
- every person Ron and I have talked to at the various shows.
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I have no idea where this rumor started about Wayne not liking the internet. Just because he doesn't post on "here" doesn't mean he doesn't like it.
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I have no idea where this rumor started about Wayne not liking the internet. Just because he doesn't post on "here" doesn't mean he doesn't like it.
NO. And I asked him everytime we talk. He really doesn't like the internet. I can tell. He could care less about it so he is in no hurry. I don't understand it but it is his deal. I do know that he is really pushing the promotion of the NOC and PDI. Especially locally in New York. That is defintiely something that not to many shows do and that is local promotion or advertising. He has full page ads in some local New York mags. He has IFBB promoters actually hanging posters out for him. There are numerous gym in New York that have his poster everywhere in the gym and he has now 20 gyms helping to sell tickets. He is doing allot of local promotion. So regradless of what we see on here heis doing allot to promote the show and the PDI. I gotta give him credit for that big time. It will not be filmed either I don't think. He told me the cost todo that and when he told me it sounded very expensive. Unions control that area and they will want to get paid. SO doubt it.
This quote right here, it says Keith talked directly to Wayne about it.
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That is no quote, "I can tell" is an assumption. I have also talked to him. He just choses not to post here.
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That is no quote, "I can tell" is an assumption. I have also talked to him. He just choses not to post here.
So would you be the one to ask about a webcast?
Any idea?
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I have no idea where this rumor started about Wayne not liking the internet. Just because he doesn't post on "here" doesn't mean he doesn't like it.
It is exactly what he said to me.
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Is BB.COM sponsoring the show?
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It is exactly what he said to me.
That doesn't answer my question Keith.
I'll wait why you give Wayne a jingle. ;)
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I have no idea where this rumor started about Wayne not liking the internet. Just because he doesn't post on "here" doesn't mean he doesn't like it.
He does post on here.
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That doesn't answer my question Keith.
I'll wait why you give Wayne a jingle. ;)
Issac I don't have time to play anymore. Very busy. You know Wayne you are an insider you know everyone, why don't you give him a call or email.
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Issac I don't have time to play anymore. Very busy. You know Wayne you are an insider you know everyone, why don't you give him a call or email.
Awe come on Keith, you had plenty of time for the Colorado bashing and telling stories on the history board but now no time when a legit question is thrown up?
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He does post on here.
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he posts under the "bluto" handle.
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he posts under the "bluto" handle.
OK..."bluto"..*check*...thanks man
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OK..."bluto"..*check*...thanks man
no problem bro, glad i could help a fellow bro.
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Actually he posts under the "Lee_A_Priest" account.
Wayne tells Lee what to say as much as Manion and Ben tell Bob.
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Keith/Rob,
Will the NOC be webcasted?
They can't put together a radio show!
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They can't put together a radio show!
don and bob talk about it enough on their show they don't need one
the fans want to see london be the first one to pose - isn't it losers first? maybe they can do interviews with the competitors blowing wayne backstage too or is that for the dvd version ???
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Ah rack that's funny.
Doesn't like the internet my ass. He loves it because it gets people talking and without it who would know about the NOC? He knows exactly what is being said on this board just like everyone else in the industry.
"Oh someone told me they posted xyz, that's the only reason I went on getbig"
- every person Ron and I have talked to at the various shows.
You are one funny guy. You guys come on here and constantly try to put down the PDI and Wayne. Very laughable coming from guys like you. Issac this will answer your question and "own" you like they say on here. First off the PDI and NOC is talked about on the internet more than the Olympia. That is a fact (at least this year). The Olympia is dying and with it so will your future along with Kevins. And I understand Kevin why you have so much loyalty to the IFBB and McCough. Hell , how many times has he bailed you out of jail. I'd kiss his ass too. Good job.
Now for the question. If you lived in New York you would see ads in the Village Voice. A local newspaper or something in New York that allot of people read. Another mag is some fag mag in New York that has a weekly diistribution of 75,000+ per week. FLEX magazine has 105,000 per month. Why do you think the NOC is not being talked about in other places. What do you own stock in the INternet or something. The NOC is being promoted more than any show in the country. Thats a fact. Magazines, radio shows, internet boards, major publications and local media is promoting the shot out of it. I think you will support this since you have the inside "ear" for this. Gays like the BB's. The publications Wayne has ads in have a total local subscription of 350,000. Lets just say 1% of those are serious gays that love BB's (you can tell me if I am wrong). That equates to 3,500 people. Now that is more than the place holds where the NOC is being put on. If just 1/10 of 1% go that is still 350 gay guys. Even you would have hard time watchingthe show.
How many gyms were promoting the NY Pro. None you say. Wow, there are 20 gyms in New York promoting the NOC and selling tickets. Wow! How many tickets did the NY Pro sell through ticketmaster less than 10 you say. Wow! How many tickets have sold for the Olympia (the biggest IFBB show in the world) so far through Ticketmaster, 351 you say! Wow! Other than the people on the Internet boards and who listens to the radio show how many people that actually go to shows know that Vince Taylor is not doing the NOC or Vinny Galanti. Wow!
SO, you and your 2 or 3 supporters you really need to just stick to what you do, whatever it is. You are trying to put down the biggest BB show promoter there ever was. Do you honestly think he would waste so much time and effort promoting the NOC if he had that few tickets sold. Get your head out of your ass. You guys are looking dumber each time. In addition, do you not think Wayne has one hell of a mailing list after many many years promoting shows around the world. Really get a life. You are supporting a piece of shit organization and you guys a blurred by it.
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I don't think anyone can deny that at least on getbig, The Night of Champions has been discussed WAY more than the O. It's new, it's unpredictable.
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Well said onlyme,that is a lot of gay people at a show.I have often wondered how come the first 6rows at shows are full of well dressed men.Now I understand.Why don't the gays run their own org big bucks to be made there.IMO.
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I dunno - but shouldn't props be given to Wayne for attempting to bring back a little excitement into bodybuilding - Natch - loyalists to the IFBB are going to "pooh" "pooh" it from the get go - think of them as Phone Company workers before the break-up of MA BELL
The Weider/IFFB --- NPC/Manion dynasties are not that much different from the mind- sets of the way the old Movie Studios worked - everyone was under contract - and they did what they were told - granted you could argue movies and stars were better then - just as the phone company may have worked better win it was a monopoly
Lee - I have an idea for a song for you to pose to
"WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE"
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I dunno - but shouldn't props be given to Wayne for attempting to bring back a little excitement into bodybuilding - Natch - loyalists to the IFBB are going to "pooh" "pooh" it from the get go - think of them as Phone Company workers before the break-up of MA BELL
The Weider/IFFB --- NPC/Manion dynasties are not that much different from the mind- sets of the way the old Movie Studios worked - everyone was under contract - and they did what they were told - granted you could argue movies and stars were better then - just as the phone company may have worked better win it was a monopoly
Lee - I have an idea for a song for you to pose to
"WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE"
I have a better song
"Memories"
Anyway Back to the original question which has been ignored, however creatively but still ignored
will the NOC be webcast?
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You are one funny guy. You guys come on here and constantly try to put down the PDI and Wayne. Very laughable coming from guys like you. Issac this will answer your question and "own" you like they say on here. First off the PDI and NOC is talked about on the internet more than the Olympia. That is a fact (at least this year). The Olympia is dying and with it so will your future along with Kevins. Unless he (Kevin) has allot of money left from his porn site.
And I understand Kevin why you have so much loyalty to the IFBB and McCough. Hell , how many times has he bailed you out of jail. I'd kiss his ass too. Good job.
Now for the question. If you lived in New York you would see ads in the Village Voice. A local newspaper or something in New York that allot of people read. Another mag is some fag mag in New York that has a weekly diistribution of 75,000+ per week. FLEX magazine has 105,000 per month. Why do you think the NOC is not being talked about in other places. What do you own stock in the INternet or something. The NOC is being promoted more than any show in the country. Thats a fact. Magazines, radio shows, internet boards, major publications and local media is promoting the shot out of it. I think you will support this since you have the inside "ear" for this. Gays like the BB's. The publications Wayne has ads in have a total local subscription of 350,000. Lets just say 1% of those are serious gays that love BB's (you can tell me if I am wrong). That equates to 3,500 people. Now that is more than the place holds where the NOC is being put on. If just 1/10 of 1% go that is still 350 gay guys. Even you would have hard time watchingthe show.
How many gyms were promoting the NY Pro. None you say. Wow, there are 20 gyms in New York promoting the NOC and selling tickets. Wow! How many tickets did the NY Pro sell through ticketmaster less than 10 you say. Wow! How many tickets have sold for the Olympia (the biggest IFBB show in the world) so far through Ticketmaster, 351 you say! Wow! Other than the people on the Internet boards and who listens to the radio show how many people that actually go to shows know that Vince Taylor is not doing the NOC or Vinny Galanti. Wow!
SO, you and your 2 or 3 supporters you really need to just stick to what you do, whatever it is. You are trying to put down the biggest BB show promoter there ever was. Do you honestly think he would waste so much time and effort promoting the NOC if he had that few tickets sold. Get your head out of your ass. You guys are looking dumber each time. In addition, do you not think Wayne has one hell of a mailing list after many many years promoting shows around the world. Really get a life. You are supporting a piece of shit organization and you guys a blurred by it.
Are you kidding, Keith??
If we take your word for it (and the rest of the PDIlites)...Wayne did NOTHING on his own, he had to answer to Ben Weider, remember?
That being the case...what credit do we give Wayne? If were to blame all the wrong doings, fines, suspensions, etc on Ben...then we have to also GIVE credit due to him, as he was ultimately in charge.
If we look at recent history, it also supports this...
The Orlando Pro was orchestrated under Wayne, as he was just finishing up business he started, but was already out of power...No sanction fee collected, No prize money collected, show and expo was a complete failure...
The last NOC was all under Wayne as well as he was prepping for his "takeover" with the "Pro div"...a total disgrace...child porn acts, the crowd booing the acts off the stage, etc, etc...
The Chicago EXPO last year had tumbleweed blowing through it, as next to nobody showed up and a smattering of booths...a HUGE financial loss.
The PDI so far...2 failed attempts to get it started, 2 canceled "pro" qualifiers, 2 athletes already dropping out, sketchy details of health ins. which turned out to be a mental hospital, no major sponsors named as of yet, promoters that are listed, yet have nothing to do with the show....
Maybe it's time to re-think your position, bigboy....
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Are you kidding, Keith??
If we take your word for it (and the rest of the PDIlites)...Wayne did NOTHING on his own, he had to answer to Ben Weider, remember?
That being the case...what credit do we give Wayne? If were to blame all the wrong doings, fines, suspensions, etc on Ben...then we have to also GIVE credit due to him, as he was ultimately in charge.
If we look at recent history, it also supports this...
The Orlando Pro was orchestrated under Wayne, as he was just finishing up business he started, but was already out of power...No sanction fee collected, No prize money collected, show and expo was a complete failure...
The last NOC was all under Wayne as well as he was prepping for his "takeover" with the "Pro div"...a total disgrace...child porn acts, the crowd booing the acts off the stage, etc, etc...
The Chicago EXPO last year had tumbleweed blowing through it, as next to nobody showed up and a smattering of booths...a HUGE financial loss.
The PDI so far...2 failed attempts to get it started, 2 canceled "pro" qualifiers, 2 athletes already dropping out, sketchy details of health ins. which turned out to be a mental hospital, no major sponsors named as of yet, promoters that are listed, yet have nothing to do with the show....
Maybe it's time to re-think your position, bigboy....
hahahaha
Dude, remember the time you told that really funny joke?
It was something like "I have nothing bad to say about Wayne or the PDI"
Man, you had us believing you for a minute, homie.
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Everything listed are FACTS, Jack...
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Everything listed are FACTS, Jack...
Of course they are. However, only a person who either:
1) wished ill will upon Wayne and the PDI, or
2) felt super-duper insecure because of some other *cough* shortcoming,
...would present it in such a manner.
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Presented it it WHAT type of manner?
It's presented as factual...I don't bring anything personal into it...I don't call Wayne names.
So , it's the TRUTH you have a problem with? When it doesn't fit in to your little Rainbow coalition of BB, you have to conjure up reasons of "WHY" it was presented...
How about, it was presented because it's the truth? Should the very athletes YOU believe could benefit from the PDI, NOT know what they might be getting themselves into?
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Presented it it WHAT type of manner?
Oh, like a prick. you speak to people like you think you're better than them.
You say things like:
Maybe it's time to re-think your position, bigboy....
I mean, is it Keith's fault he was bit by a spider and has had a myriad of health problems which have led to him being a, as you so eloquently put it, "bigboy"?
Sounds like you're more upset about the position that someone has put you in, and you're taking it out on others. you know what I'm talking about, Robert. Relax, and stop picking at scabs that people cannot help.
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Nice deflection...as usual.
Try sticking to the subject...or commenting on my post.
How about answering the question...I thought you were supposed to be looking out for the best interests of the ATHLETES...?
Do you think by keeping the athletes in the dark, you are doing them a service, 240?
BTW...who brought up Keith being bit by a spider? Keith has been a "bigboy" long before his unfortunate bite...he's always been a big SOB, didn't know that was a bad thing.
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Nice deflection...as usual.
Try sticking to the subject...or commenting on my post.
How about answering the question...I thought you were supposed to be looking out for the best interests of the ATHLETES...?
Do you think by keeping the athletes in the dark, you are doing them a service, 240?
I think that if the athletes had the ability to compete in either federation, they would have the most opportunities to earn money.
Period. End of story. It's that simple.
The job of athletes rep is to try to facilitate that freedom.
The job of an IFBB rep is to put down rival federations.
Now, which job description do you think applies to you more?
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Didn't expect you to find your balls and answer to the questions asked....
The job of the athletes rep...BTW, is to facilitate the OPINIONS of the IFBB athletes as a whole, and compile that info in form of proposals to be considered by the Blue Blazers.
Given the facts I stated, I don't believe it to be in the best interests of the IFBB athletes to go and compete for Wayne and the PDI (even if they could)...the only track record so far, is a bad one.
Maybe in time that will change...
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Didn't expect you to find your balls and answer to the questions asked....
School on Saturday.
The job of the athletes rep...BTW, is to facilitate the OPINIONS of the IFBB athletes as a whole, and compile that info in form of proposals to be considered by the Blue Blazers.
And you don't think that the athletes want to earn more money? If they can compete anywhere, they can earn more money. It's that simple.
Given the facts I stated, I don't believe it to be in the best interests of the IFBB athletes to go and compete for Wayne and the PDI (even if they could)...the only track record so far, is a bad one.
So it is your personal opinion that:
1) Wayne putting up $30k in prize money, on a weekend where there are no IFBB shows and most of the guys will bein shape from the fall grand prix or the O prep,
2) Despite this- It's better for these men to sit at home on Sept 16th and watch TV than get off their couches and do a show that has $30k up for grabs?
Bob, I would think the majority of athletes - esprcially those who will be in shape already and live in the NY area - would like to have the option of doing the NOC. For you to "decide for them" reeks of arrogance. If your reasoning made sense, I could see your convictions here.
But for guys in NY who are doing the fall shows, your advice not to do the NOC is bad advice. Period. And I don't think you'd find one person who would say that an in-shape IFBB guy living in NYC would make more $ sitting on getbig on the 16th than taking a cab down to the NOC and knocking out some prize money.
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School on Saturday.
And you don't think that the athletes want to earn more money? If they can compete anywhere, they can earn more money. It's that simple.
So it is your personal opinion that:
1) Wayne putting up $30k in prize money, on a weekend where there are no IFBB shows and most of the guys will bein shape from the fall grand prix or the O prep,
2) Despite this- It's better for these men to sit at home on Sept 16th and watch TV than get off their couches and do a show that has $30k up for grabs?
Bob, I would think the majority of athletes - esprcially those who will be in shape already and live in the NY area - would like to have the option of doing the NOC. For you to "decide for them" reeks of arrogance. If your reasoning made sense, I could see your convictions here.
But for guys in NY who are doing the fall shows, your advice not to do the NOC is bad advice. Period. And I don't think you'd find one person who would say that an in-shape IFBB guy living in NYC would make more $ sitting on getbig on the 16th than taking a cab down to the NOC and knocking out some prize money.
1.) There is no guarantee the $30K actually finds itself to the athletes pockets...
2.) $30,000 is NOT up for grabs...it's $30K PURSE. It's $15K for first, etc, etc...
Your first three words in your next paragraph say it all..."I would think"...Of course thats what YOU think...you don't talk to the athletes, you're not a pro athlete, you have nothing to do with Pro BB...If you did (as I do)..you would know and realize that no one other than Lee is interested.
The IFBB pros are not interested in: competing with amateurs...competing for Wayne...getting suspended to compete for a federation with a bad track record...want to participate in a show that's run like the last NOC...etc, etc, etc.
BTW...I don't have to "decide for them"...they have spoken loud and clear. THEY"RE NOT INTERESTED.
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1.) There is no guarantee the $30K actually finds itself to the athletes pockets...
Ask the guys who bought tickets for that IFBB Canadian show that got cancelled about 'guarantees'. Nothing is life is guaranteed.
2.) $30,000 is NOT up for grabs...it's $30K PURSE. It's $15K for first, etc, etc...
As with any other show, this is obvious, Bob. A $30k purse is up for grabs.
Your first three words in your next paragraph say it all..."I would think"...Of course thats what YOU think...you don't talk to the athletes, you're not a pro athlete, you have nothing to do with Pro BB...If you did (as I do)..you would know and realize that no one other than Lee is interested.
The IFBB pros are not interested in: competing with amateurs...competing for Wayne...getting suspended to compete for a federation with a bad track record...want to participate in a show that's run like the last NOC...etc, etc, etc.
BTW...I don't have to "decide for them"...they have spoken loud and clear. THEY"RE NOT INTERESTED.
You're a man in power, and you're making huge assumptions. If you don't see the idiocy in a person in power making assumptions, well...
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I don't have to ask the guys from the Canadian show...I can ask the guys from the Orlando show...Incidental, Wayne was in charge of both. One simple proposal to Jim Manion, asking the IFBB to guarantee the purse was accepted on the first try. Amazing...
I'm not making assumptions...YOU ARE.
I talk to IFBB pro's every week...we travel together, train together, work shows together...we TALK. These are the opinions of the pro's, and believe me..I've talked to MANY.
You, on the other hand, are the KING of assumptions...when you have absolutely no causal connection to anyone even remotely a pro. You live on the internet, in your little cubby-hole...THINKING you have the "pulse of the people" for some reason...you don't.
Ever consider that maybe, the reasons I listed are more than enough to dissuade IFBB pro's from even considering it? Naaaaahhhhhhhh..couldn't be.
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I don't have to ask the guys from the Canadian show...I can ask the guys from the Orlando show...Incidental, Wayne was in charge of both.
Wayne was in charge of this year's cancelled IFBB show that was supposed to be held in canada? I thought it was winston?
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You, on the other hand, are the KING of assumptions...when you have absolutely no causal connection to anyone even remotely a pro. You live on the internet, in your little cubby-hole...THINKING you have the "pulse of the people" for some reason...you don't.
Bob, sometimes people will tell me things that they want out, but they don't want connected to them. They will also use me for a form of informal poll, as they know if they come to you with it, they'll be added to your little tattletale list for Manion. I'm sorry, but it's true. They see you as a powerless puppet who can't wait to tattle on them for not showing loyalty.
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wrong Canadian show...I was referring to the Nimrod King show,where he failed to pay anyone and skipped town...5-6 years ago
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They see me as an annoying prick, but an annoying prick who can help information move around in a safe manner. I mean, you sit on the boards and openly bash people, question the integrity of anyone with whom you disagree, and base many assumptions on emotion, not fact. eg: Bob Gruskin.
I'm an annoying kid who lives in my bedroom, but they know I can share what I know and keep every name out of it. Can they count on you for that??
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Bob, sometimes people will tell me things that they want out, but they don't want connected to them. They will also use me for a form of informal poll, as they know if they come to you with it, they'll be added to your little tattletale list for Manion. I'm sorry, but it's true. They see you as a powerless puppet who can't wait to tattle on them for not showing loyalty.
Bullshit...
What "tattletale list" lololol....WOW, you REALLY don't know what goes on, do you?
Yeah, thats it....IFBB pro's confide in an internet troll that has NOTHING to do with anything...lolololol
BTW...you can't get in trouble for voicing an opinion, as Lee and Shawn, and Myself have shown countless times.
You're quite delusional, aren't you 240? What a fantasland you've constructed for yourself....
Gruskin is not looked upon with any type of respect or integrity in the biz, 240...if you knew anything about thee histiory of BB prior to 2002...you would know that Gruskin was one of the main reasons the NPC was formed....Manion and crew wanted to GET AWAY from him and the rest of the AAU weirdos.
Please.....
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You're quite delusional, aren't you 240? What a fantasland you've constructed for yourself....
You're still upset about that Don Long scoop, I understand...
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You're still upset about that Don Long scoop, I understand...
What "scoop" is that? Is he still "coming back" 240?
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In case you missed it...
Gruskin is not looked upon with any type of respect or integrity in the biz, 240...if you knew anything about thee histiory of BB prior to 2002...you would know that Gruskin was one of the main reasons the NPC was formed....Manion and crew wanted to GET AWAY from him and the rest of the AAU weirdos.
Please.....
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We should rename this thread 240 vs. Chick part MCMXXIV ::)
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These threads are always great entertainment. I get this picture in my head when I see the posts, 240 and chick sitting at a table opposite each other, Bob is standing up, yelling, and has a nice red colour in his face, while 240 is sitting casually with a coke in his hand, closing his eyes, and feeling the sea breeze coming from Bob's mouth. Bob is never going to get anybody's respect by being so aggressive, unproffesional and juvenile as he is on this board. No wonder the athletes never show up at his meetings. Give his position to Lee, as people can count on him not being a suckup to the suits. Bob's inferiority complex and subsequent thirst for power, not to mention his elitist tendencies, are painfully evident.
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Are you kidding, Keith??
If we take your word for it (and the rest of the PDIlites)...Wayne did NOTHING on his own, he had to answer to Ben Weider, remember?
That being the case...what credit do we give Wayne? If were to blame all the wrong doings, fines, suspensions, etc on Ben...then we have to also GIVE credit due to him, as he was ultimately in charge.
If we look at recent history, it also supports this...
The Orlando Pro was orchestrated under Wayne, as he was just finishing up business he started, but was already out of power...No sanction fee collected, No prize money collected, show and expo was a complete failure...
The last NOC was all under Wayne as well as he was prepping for his "takeover" with the "Pro div"...a total disgrace...child porn acts, the crowd booing the acts off the stage, etc, etc...
The Chicago EXPO last year had tumbleweed blowing through it, as next to nobody showed up and a smattering of booths...a HUGE financial loss.
The PDI so far...2 failed attempts to get it started, 2 canceled "pro" qualifiers, 2 athletes already dropping out, sketchy details of health ins. which turned out to be a mental hospital, no major sponsors named as of yet, promoters that are listed, yet have nothing to do with the show....
Maybe it's time to re-think your position, bigboy....
Well all that but nothing to disagree with the fact Wayne is the biggest and most prominent BB promoter in the world. OUt of how many shows has he put on a handfull went bad. Not bad odds to me. Promoters fuck up all the time. And the Weiders did nothing to support the Olympia. There were no deals given or assistance. Ads were paid for and deposits made by Wayne. The fact is the best show in BB was the Olympia when Wayne ran it. You know that for a fact. So far every year AMI has had it it has been shitty. Everyone on here that went concurs. In fact you should be pissed at the IFBB for requiring such a high sanction fee and allowing Manion to have such a high expense bill for one week in Vegas. That money could have easily been used for prize money.
And allthe good that Wayne did at the Olympia who got the credit, your uncle Ben. He is the guy who stands up and gets all the glory. Yet when something happens he hides behind Wayne. That too is a fact. If you are going to come on here and show your loyalty to the IFBB then at least have some diginity and admit when you are wrong and that the IFBB sucks and you are just along for the ride.
And so what about the PDI cancelling shows. The IFBB has been around for 50 years and they aren't even close to getting there shit right. They are still canceling shows after all this time. First the Toronto Pro, then what happened to the Fresno show Flex Wheeler was helping to promote. What happened to that show. The Hungarian Pro was moved to Romania. Don't you think the company you love so much and the boys you work for after 50 years in the business would have their shit together by now. My god what kind of morons do you work for. Say all the shit about Wayne you want but your bosses and the company you are so loyal to are the worst in the business. And thats a fact.
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I also want to say sorry to Kevin about the remark about the porn site. Shouldn;t have come up. Sorry dude. I took it out of my post.
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I also want to say sorry to Kevin about the remark about the porn site. Shouldn;t have come up. Sorry dude. I took it out of my post.
Thank you, I've had close to 100 e-mails asking for a free password! ;D
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Thank you, I've had close to 100 e-mails asking for a free password! ;D
If you really have a teh porn site...
You could be that HardFitnessLopez guy for all I care. You still got my respect.
Good job K.
YIP
Zack
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Kevin runs a porn site? Which one?
Probably "musclebears". >:(
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Kevin runs a porn site? Which one?
Probably "musclebears". >:(
I was hoping for either www.meatmembers.com
or www.slaphappy.com
YIP
Zack
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Nice "fight"
The PDI should form a hockey league, nobody could score on them with the major amount of deflection going on. Or they would never acknowledge the fact that they have been scored on and just change the topic to one of insults.
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I don't think it is possible to dumb this question down anymore, so read slowly
Webcast?
The internet is that thing Al Gore created. Have Wayne call him if he needs a good description.
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The question is simply:
What is the status on NOC and a webcast?
YIP
Zack
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The question is simply:
What is the status on NOC and a webcast?
YIP
Zack
Maybe they could get BB.com to do it?
The camera would stay on Bob the whole time, and Bob would be declared the winner, despite the fact he never eneterd the show, and is sitting in the audience not standing on the stage.
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Maybe they could get BB.com to do it?
The camera would stay on Bob the whole time, and Bob would be declared the winner, despite the fact he never eneterd the show, and is sitting in the audience not standing on the stage.
Yes but Bob would deserve the win, hands down.
Unless Lee actually follows through on a commitment and shows up.
<Don't yell at me>
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As usual Rob and Keith have to side step a very simple and direct question. I don't recall asking what gyms or what local newspapers the show was being promoted. I'm not in NYC and dont' give two shits about that. 3 pages later and the two people I asked point blank have yet to address the question.
Stop will the deflections pdites and hold yourselves to the same line of questions you do to those of us who support the IFBB.
I ask again. Will the NOC be webcasted?
Thanks kids.
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woah woah, don't include me. I very openly suggested the NOC be webcast from minute one. I have heard nothing about it.
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woah woah, don't include me. I very openly suggested the NOC be webcast from minute one. I have heard nothing about it.
Exactly.
Never saw either onlyme's or 240 or Bust's names on the NOC poster.
OR that British PDI thingy either.
PDI needs seems to have some communicative problems.
But that sure ain't onlyme or 240's probs IMO.
YIP
Zack
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Exactly.
Never saw either onlyme's or 240 or Bust's names on the NOC poster.
OR that British PDI thingy either.
PDI needs seems to have some communicative problems.
But that sure ain't onlyme or 240's probs IMO.
YIP
Zack
Exactly, I come on here to defend the PDI when I see fit and all Issac does is ask me every question. You think from my answers he would have figured out the answer is NO webcast. But I can see too many words were used. Issac as far as I know there is NO WEBCAST. Aren't you an insider. Can't you email Wayne yourself or call him. All you do is keep mentioning the PDI in every post you do. By the way Wayne says thanks
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Exactly, I come on here to defend the PDI when I see fit and all Issac does is ask me every question. You think from my answers he would have figured out the answer is NO webcast. But I can see too many words were used. Issac as far as I know there is NO WEBCAST. Aren't you an insider. Can't you email Wayne yourself or call him. All you do is keep mentioning the PDI in every post you do. By the way Wayne says thanks
So your saying there is NO WEBCAST? :'(
There were too many words, I got confused. ???
Blonde hair, too much hair spray, condition :-[
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Exactly, I come on here to defend the PDI when I see fit and all Issac does is ask me every question. You think from my answers he would have figured out the answer is NO webcast. But I can see too many words were used. Issac as far as I know there is NO WEBCAST. Aren't you an insider. Can't you email Wayne yourself or call him. All you do is keep mentioning the PDI in every post you do. By the way Wayne says thanks
I asked you one question because you have chosen to be a mouthpiece for Wayne. A simple "no" would have sufficed but instead you like to ramble on about gay magazines. I could email Wayne sure, just like you could have emailed or called Shawn before the Colorado show and your countless attacks on the show.
Well now that you finally answered my question, thank you. That wasn't so hard was it?
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Webcasts are relatively easy to produce.
You need a reliable high-speed internet connection and a camera-computer combo capable of streaming video.
And you'll need a monkey to make sure that the camera remains mounted on the tripod and pointed at the stage.
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Thinking about it...
No NOC webcast is a good idea.
I am sure everybody remembers the 2004 Night of Champions Opening stuff...
I sure as hell don't wish to see the 2006 version! :-X :-X
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What is the kid doing on stage with the she monster he looks shocked.Am glad I wasn't there.Like I said the Gays should have their own Organization big bucks to be made.IMO.
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Webcasts are relatively easy to produce.
You need a reliable high-speed internet connection and a camera-computer combo capable of streaming video.
And you'll need a monkey to make sure that the camera remains mounted on the tripod and pointed at the stage.
The problem with webcast or PPV at the NOC is the union. EVERYTHING is union and they will get paid no matter if you use them or not.
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Yes, NY & LA are Union Towns
That's why the USAs only took place in LA once (Melvin Anthony)
Jon Lyndsay got a whopping bill from the stagehands because it went past 11
so bye bye mecca back to Vegas
more props to Wayne for having his event at a class A venue
smack in the middle of the city that never sleeps
Sure he could of skimped and save a few grand by having it in a College/High School Auditorium or hotel ballroom
The Jackie Gleason Theatre in Miami Beach is also union
so at least the NPC are willing to spend a little of their dough
to have it in a world class facility for the Nationals
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Thinking about it...
No NOC webcast is a good idea.
I am sure everybody remembers the 2004 Night of Champions Opening stuff...
I sure as hell don't wish to see the 2006 version! :-X :-X
hahahahaha..thats fvcking funny
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What is the kid doing on stage with the she monster he looks shocked.Am glad I wasn't there.Like I said the Gays should have their own Organization big bucks to be made.IMO.
That my dear is what Wayne calls entertainment, Pedophilia.
Thankfully everybody who was at the show had morals and booed the crap off the stage.
Unfortunately something like that stays burned in the Psyche.
One of the reasons I don't like Wayne >:(
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The problem with webcast or PPV at the NOC is the union. EVERYTHING is union and they will get paid no matter if you use them or not.
Tell them to take a f*cking hike.
Unions are no longer a part of the solution. They are the reason you now have to call India to figure out why your American computer is on the fritz.
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that NOC in 2004 all the people working there were wearing black pro division t-shirts too,it was around the time when wayne was on his way out and i think he was trying to take charge of the ifbb somehow.i think something was different with the pro cards that were sent out that year too with waynes name on the top of them and "pro division" instead of weiders name and "ifbb"?
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nah! don't blame the unions for outsourcing
however, don't think a bbdg forum is the place to analyze/discuss Dick Cheney & Co.
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I just want a cool 80s Pdi shirt, i lost alot of my old clothes. :'(
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I have a couple of 2nd. tier IFBB pros who stop by my store every few weeks just to say hi and see what's new in the supplement world. For obvious reasons, they must remain nameless, but no bullsh1t, they would love to compete in the PDI NOC, but are afaraid of the fallout they'll get from the IFBB. The amount of $ they have made from IFBB shows isn't enough to pay for travelling, nevermind contest prep. They would love another stage and another chance to make a living outside of doing things that they must do to eat. Sad to say the least that because of polotics they can't ply their triad outside of the few shows they will qualify for.
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I have a couple of 2nd. tier IFBB pros who stop by my store every few weeks just to say hi and see what's new in the supplement world. For obvious reasons, they must remain nameless, but no bullsh1t, they would love to compete in the PDI NOC, but are afaraid of the fallout they'll get from the IFBB. The amount of $ they have made from IFBB shows isn't enough to pay for travelling, nevermind contest prep. They would love another stage and another chance to make a living outside of doing things that they must do to eat. Sad to say the least that because of polotics they can't ply their triad outside of the few shows they will qualify for.
Encourage those guys to lobby for the creation of a pro division within the NPC.
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I have a couple of 2nd. tier IFBB pros who stop by my store every few weeks just to say hi and see what's new in the supplement world. For obvious reasons, they must remain nameless, but no bullsh1t, they would love to compete in the PDI NOC, but are afaraid of the fallout they'll get from the IFBB. The amount of $ they have made from IFBB shows isn't enough to pay for travelling, nevermind contest prep. They would love another stage and another chance to make a living outside of doing things that they must do to eat. Sad to say the least that because of polotics they can't ply their triad outside of the few shows they will qualify for.
Waiting for Chic to come on here and say bullshit. He knows no one is talking like that cause he says so. Remember if Chic doesn't know about it then it's false and not happening.
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Waiting for Chic to come on here and say bullshit. He knows no one is talking like that cause he says so. Remember if Chic doesn't know about it then it's false and not happening.
Yeah because everything you spew is always right on. ::)
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Yeah because everything you spew is always right on. ::)
Is Vegas taking odds on "Lift Studios vs. Onlyme" at the Olympia?
You've got Keith with size and power
Lift with...well... hmmm... Great, no not great.... tough one... :-\ :-\
Okay Lift has a great ass. :-*