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Title: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Scimowser on August 20, 2006, 12:26:21 PM
looks like a shit hot card, poor Coleman though. This will be the end of him for good


Fedor Emelianenko Vs Mark “The Hammer” Coleman

Mauricio “Shogun” Rua Vs Kevin Randleman.

other fighters to appear are Josh Barnett, Kazuyuki Fujita, Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, Phil Baroni, Vitor Belfort, and middleweight champion Wanderlei Silva.

Oh and BTW, Mike Tyson was at the press conference cos hes made a secret deal with the promoters!


Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Jaded on August 20, 2006, 12:48:13 PM
pretty damn good card ... better than any UFC card lately!

I think Fedor vs Coleman was a last minute matchup .. since Tim Sylvia refused to fight Fedor when Pride called him out.

If Tim would not have chickened out, it would probably have been the grudge rematch for Shogun vs Coleman.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Scimowser on August 20, 2006, 01:23:03 PM
Shogun wanted the fight, but Pride decided it would be better for Coleman to fight Fedor as he has momentum coming from his win over Shogun. Make no mistake though, should he survive after his demolishing by Fedor they will get it on again.

As for Tim, he called out Fedor when he beat Gan McGee but i doubt he was convinced he could match up to him if it happened. I dont think it will personally, Tim looks shit hot in UFC but he would be destroyed by some of the Pride Middleweights and LHW fighters, let alone the very best MMA fighter of his generatron
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on August 20, 2006, 01:36:13 PM
Mike Tyson supposedly signed to fight a "boxing rules only" match in Pride, I don't think kicks would be allowed, and I don't know who would have the balls to fight this guy on these terms.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Bluto on August 20, 2006, 02:15:33 PM
Shogun wanted the fight, but Pride decided it would be better for Coleman to fight Fedor as he has momentum coming from his win over Shogun. Make no mistake though, should he survive after his demolishing by Fedor they will get it on again.

As for Tim, he called out Fedor when he beat Gan McGee but i doubt he was convinced he could match up to him if it happened. I dont think it will personally, Tim looks shit hot in UFC but he would be destroyed by some of the Pride Middleweights and LHW fighters, let alone the very best MMA fighter of his generatron

I don't think UFC would let him fight. They'd lose their only HW name now when Arlovski's gone.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Bluto on August 20, 2006, 02:16:31 PM
Mike Tyson supposedly signed to fight a "boxing rules only" match in Pride, I don't think kicks would be allowed, and I don't know who would have the balls to fight this guy on these terms.

I'd do it. If the money is right.  :)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: titusisback on August 20, 2006, 03:15:11 PM
Mike Tyson supposedly signed to fight a "boxing rules only" match in Pride, I don't think kicks would be allowed, and I don't know who would have the balls to fight this guy on these terms.

If ground game was allowed, I'd say most MMA fighers would be willing to fight him today
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: K-1 on August 20, 2006, 09:17:54 PM
Awesome !

Way to debut in america by bringing THE SHOW and ALL THE HORSES to vegas right in UFC's backyard.  ;D

That randleman vs shogun match should be interesting. Coleman broke that mofo's arm and Team Hammer House and Chute Boxe had a little "scuffle" about that sh*t in the ring and almost backstage. Now Kevin is going in there (on the smack I bet) .....this could get ugly fast as soon as the match is over.

I can't wait.  ;)

P.S. Fedor just might be the first mofo to kill a man in Vegas!  ;D
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 20, 2006, 10:35:09 PM
so far the card looks like shit

big names, shitty matchups

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Jaded on August 20, 2006, 10:57:28 PM
so far the card looks like shit

big names, shitty matchups

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exactly how r they shitty matchups?
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 20, 2006, 11:15:04 PM
exactly how r they shitty matchups?

i have a better question

how is coleman a good matchup for fedor?  fedor already beat him in like 1 minute two years ago

what would make anybody think randleman could beat shogun? 

why not have fedor fight somebody that he hasn't already killed and have shogun fight coleman in a rematch after one of the biggest flukes in fighting history?

like I said big names, shitty matchups

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Jaded on August 20, 2006, 11:30:17 PM
i have a better question

how is coleman a good matchup for fedor?  fedor already beat him in like 1 minute two years ago

what would make anybody think randleman could beat shogun? 

why not have fedor fight somebody that he hasn't already killed and have shogun fight coleman in a rematch after one of the biggest flukes in fighting history?

like I said big names, shitty matchups

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i feel u on the coleman vs shogun rematch ... but i dont think the current matchups are shitty, should be exciting ...

who did u have in mind for Fedor to match up with??? (since yer such an expert at calling out shitty cards!  ;D)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: OKMike on August 21, 2006, 02:35:28 AM
I thought that Pride would match Josh Barnett up with Fedor since he is an American and has beaten Fedor's brother.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: dirtysanchez on August 21, 2006, 09:09:49 AM
Barnett is fighting in the OWGP semis in September, plus I think Pride wanted Fedor to face someone most casual American fans are familiar with.  I agree the match ups could be better but I'm still excited about Pride being in the US
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Scimowser on August 21, 2006, 01:31:29 PM
exactly who is left that can be thought of as a threat to Fedor that he hasnt already dominated? Crocop was supposed to be the guy to beat him and he was beat down. Randleman was closer than anyone to beat him and he got spanked. Arlovski and Sylvia could do a 2 on 1 and still get tapped out at the same time (ok not literally  ;D). Theres not a name in MMA who can match him.

the Coleman matchup has momentum, then let him have the rematch. As for Tyson, had anyone recommended fighting him 15 years ago i dont think there would have been a handful of guys who would have taken up the challenge. He once offered a zoo keeper $15,000 or something like that to let him into a gorilla cage to fight. He said something along the lines of seeing the gorillas eyes made him realise it was scared of him, and he knew he could win. Even Rickson would have been put to sleep
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2006, 04:31:21 PM
I wish I had the time to fly out to Vegas for this.  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 21, 2006, 05:11:45 PM
i feel u on the coleman vs shogun rematch ... but i dont think the current matchups are shitty, should be exciting ...

who did u have in mind for Fedor to match up with??? (since yer such an expert at calling out shitty cards!  ;D)

josh barnett

mark hunt

somebody he hasn't fought or killed (coleman) before

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Jaded on August 21, 2006, 05:22:03 PM
matching up fighters who have fought before doesn't exactly make it a shitty matchup!
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 21, 2006, 05:27:10 PM
it does when one guy got beat in under 2 minutes and isn't ranked among the top 10 heavyweights in the world...

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2006, 05:38:22 PM
it does when one guy got beat in under 2 minutes and isn't ranked among the top 10 heavyweights in the world...

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Who would you like Fedor to fight? Is there anyone that could actually qualify as a good match for you? I think a Coleman matchup would be good seeing as he was holding his own until he slipped up and got caught. The amount of respect Fedor has for Coleman is awesome too. He credits his G'n'P to Mark. It should be interesting. Also, I for one don't want to see Shogun against him coming right off an injury.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Jaded on August 21, 2006, 06:05:49 PM
it does when one guy got beat in under 2 minutes and isn't ranked among the top 10 heavyweights in the world...

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it was actually 2:11 !
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 21, 2006, 10:36:39 PM
Who would you like Fedor to fight? Is there anyone that could actually qualify as a good match for you? I think a Coleman matchup would be good seeing as he was holding his own until he slipped up and got caught. The amount of respect Fedor has for Coleman is awesome too. He credits his G'n'P to Mark. It should be interesting. Also, I for one don't want to see Shogun against him coming right off an injury.

read above

and every boxer credits muhammad ali that doesn't mean they should fight and fedor was never in danger

why don't you want to see shogun vs coleman, it was a fluke accident if he can fight randelman he can fight coleman

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Eric15210 on August 22, 2006, 07:14:09 AM
Fedor vs Big Tim would be better

Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2006, 11:58:43 AM
read above

and every boxer credits muhammad ali that doesn't mean they should fight and fedor was never in danger

why don't you want to see shogun vs coleman, it was a fluke accident if he can fight randelman he can fight coleman

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Read above what? Do you know anything about MMA Earl or are you just a stupid fuck trying to throw his 2 cents in. Shogun wanted Fedor, not Coleman. PRIDE makes money first, then the matchups people want. Let him get a fight or two under his belt before the Coleman rematch. Why would you throw one of their most popular fighters back to the guy who beat him and risk the chance of him losing. It wouldn't look good at all.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 22, 2006, 02:21:58 PM
Read above what? Do you know anything about MMA Earl or are you just a stupid f**k trying to throw his 2 cents in. Shogun wanted Fedor, not Coleman. PRIDE makes money first, then the matchups people want. Let him get a fight or two under his belt before the Coleman rematch. Why would you throw one of their most popular fighters back to the guy who beat him and risk the chance of him losing. It wouldn't look good at all.

little boy I saw the original ufc live on pay per view i'm no TUF newbie like most of you are :)

you asked who i would like to see fedor fight and I listed who above hence the "read above" ::)

so have him fight randelman who is basically the same fighter as coleman ::)

why would shogun want fedor, the best fighter in the world if he supposedly needs a fight before fighting coleman
that makes no sense

and those aren't the matchups people want atleast not true mma fans that want to see a competitive fight rather than some has been that already got killed by fedor once before

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 22, 2006, 05:00:39 PM
little boy I saw the original ufc live on pay per view i'm no TUF newbie like most of you are :)

you asked who i would like to see fedor fight and I listed who above hence the "read above" ::)

so have him fight randelman who is basically the same fighter as coleman ::)

why would shogun want fedor, the best fighter in the world if he supposedly needs a fight before fighting coleman
that makes no sense

and those aren't the matchups people want atleast not true mma fans that want to see a competitive fight rather than some has been that already got killed by fedor once before

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First off, what Shogun wants and what PRIDE wants are two different things there. Secondly, those matchups are fine. I'm sure PRIDE wants to see the Americans win so that people will get on board the wagon and start ordering the PPV's. It seems you know absolutely nothing about the fact that DSE is an entertainment corporation first. Profits are their first priority. Third, you strike me as more of a TUF noobie than some of the others here.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 22, 2006, 11:28:31 PM
First off, what Shogun wants and what PRIDE wants are two different things there. Secondly, those matchups are fine. I'm sure PRIDE wants to see the Americans win so that people will get on board the wagon and start ordering the PPV's. It seems you know absolutely nothing about the fact that DSE is an entertainment corporation first. Profits are their first priority. Third, you strike me as more of a TUF noobie than some of the others here.

first of all I never said profits weren't important.  That doesn't change the fact that coleman vs fedor is a shitty matchup whcih is really what I have been arguing this whole time.  Yeah coleman is a big name but it is a shitty matchup.  It's like having Tyson fight Larry Holmes again after he knocked him out early.  A true fan (like me) would never buy a fight just because the names are big.

how many of you bought shamrock ortiz part 2 fight? 

I didn't ;D

explain how those matchups are fine.  I assume the word "fine" to you means complete mismatch ???

also how do I come off as a TUF noobie or is this one of those "I insult your mother and then you insult my mother" situations

i'm betting it is :)

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2006, 02:15:32 PM
first of all I never said profits weren't important.  That doesn't change the fact that coleman vs fedor is a shitty matchup whcih is really what I have been arguing this whole time.  Yeah coleman is a big name but it is a shitty matchup.  It's like having Tyson fight Larry Holmes again after he knocked him out early.  A true fan (like me) would never buy a fight just because the names are big.

how many of you bought shamrock ortiz part 2 fight? 

I didn't ;D

explain how those matchups are fine.  I assume the word "fine" to you means complete mismatch ???

also how do I come off as a TUF noobie or is this one of those "I insult your mother and then you insult my mother" situations

i'm betting it is :)

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One fight strikes me as a complete mismatch. As has been proven before in fighting, anything can happen dipshit. Secondly, you strike me as a TUF noobie because you grasp absolutely no concept of the fact that DSE is about profits and entertainment first, then what little crybaby fans like you want. I'm just glad that PRIDE is finally in the US and I'm just looking forward to seeing Fedor fight again.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on August 23, 2006, 03:05:47 PM
first of all I never said profits weren't important.  That doesn't change the fact that coleman vs fedor is a shitty matchup whcih is really what I have been arguing this whole time.  Yeah coleman is a big name but it is a shitty matchup.  It's like having Tyson fight Larry Holmes again after he knocked him out early.  A true fan (like me) would never buy a fight just because the names are big.

how many of you bought shamrock ortiz part 2 fight? 

I didn't ;D

explain how those matchups are fine.  I assume the word "fine" to you means complete mismatch ???

also how do I come off as a TUF noobie or is this one of those "I insult your mother and then you insult my mother" situations

i'm betting it is :)

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i bought this fight, and it wasn't on the purpose of seeing a good fight. Because lord knows the whole PPV sucked pretty much.... The sylvia fight was F*CKING sorry as hell. I would of rather seen two high school shtibags box, wouldve have been more punches landed. The reason i bought that fight was to see Tito punish poor old man Shamcock... and as much as i hate to see it i will but the third fight to in hopes of seeing Shamrock get his head beat in and hopefully watch Tito put Shamrock into retirement for good...
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 23, 2006, 03:48:43 PM
One fight strikes me as a complete mismatch. As has been proven before in fighting, anything can happen dipshit. Secondly, you strike me as a TUF noobie because you grasp absolutely no concept of the fact that DSE is about profits and entertainment first, then what little crybaby fans like you want. I'm just glad that PRIDE is finally in the US and I'm just looking forward to seeing Fedor fight again.

yeah anything can happen buster douglas is thought of as such a great fighter because of one lucky win ::)

i'm not buying a show just because one fighter past his prime might get lucky, smart people spend wisely no matter how much their income is :)

and nobody other than you is talking about profits, we are talking about shitty matchups i know you are slow but please try and keep up

and your explaanition for me sounding like a tuf newbie makes no sense ::)

if I called you ugly you would reply "no you're ugly" haha ;D

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2006, 05:45:58 PM
yeah anything can happen buster douglas is thought of as such a great fighter because of one lucky win ::)

i'm not buying a show just because one fighter past his prime might get lucky, smart people spend wisely no matter how much their income is :)

and nobody other than you is talking about profits, we are talking about shitty matchups i know you are slow but please try and keep up

and your explaanition for me sounding like a tuf newbie makes no sense ::)

if I called you ugly you would reply "no you're ugly" haha ;D

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Nope, but you if I called you a dipshit would you reply with some long-winded statement that makes no sense? Looks like it. haha ;D

By the way, add more faces to the end of every sentence you type. It makes your points that much more serious!

By the way dipshit, I only see 2 fights that are confirmed as of right now according to that post. Do you know what the rest of the card is going to look like? Stop embarassing yourself you TUF retard.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 23, 2006, 06:18:14 PM
Nope, but you if I called you a dipshit would you reply with some long-winded statement that makes no sense? Looks like it. haha ;D

By the way, add more faces to the end of every sentence you type. It makes your points that much more serious!

By the way dipshit, I only see 2 fights that are confirmed as of right now according to that post. Do you know what the rest of the card is going to look like? Stop embarassing yourself you TUF retard.

haha meltown ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lol the first guy ever on getbig to be offended by smiley faces have some more smiley faces ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and we are only talking about the two fights so far on the card and they are the same fights you have been arguing idiot  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

monster desperate attempt at trying to find ways to insult me ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

go watch forrest and stephan duke it out like 6th graders, I bEt that is your idea of a quality fight you DIPSHIT TUF NEWBIE :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2006, 06:19:59 PM
haha meltown ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lol the first guy ever on getbig to be offended by smiley faces have some more smiley faces ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and we are only talking about the two fights so far on the card and they are the same fights you have been arguing idiot  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

monster desperate attempt at trying to find ways to insult me ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

go watch forrest and stephan duke it out like 6th graders, I bEt that is your idea of a quality fight you DIPSHIT TUF NEWBIE :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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Epic meltdown. By the way, I'm not much of a UFC fan but good try. You, on the other hand....  ::)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 23, 2006, 06:36:49 PM
Epic meltdown. By the way, I'm not much of a UFC fan but good try. You, on the other hand....  ::)

yes i am such a ufc fan i'm so happy to see former ufc heavyweight champs at the top of the pride card ::)

your shit is so weak i almost feel guilty for owning you :D :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2006, 08:59:38 AM
yes i am such a ufc fan i'm so happy to see former ufc heavyweight champs at the top of the pride card ::)

your shit is so weak i almost feel guilty for owning you :D :D :D :D

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Because they're Americans and I think most Americans would like to see an American fight rather than a Jap. Are you that stupid? Stick to watching TUF, I heard you taped all of last season and spend your Saturday nights jerking off to it.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: dirtysanchez on August 24, 2006, 09:13:42 AM
this thread is almost getting as entertaining as the fights themselves....where's Big John when you need him? "Lets get it on!!!"  ;D
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 24, 2006, 09:25:42 AM
Speaking of newbs... Berzerk, you might want to take a peek at Earl's post count...LOL
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2006, 09:33:37 AM
Speaking of newbs... Berzerk, you might want to take a peek at Earl's post count...LOL


Gee golly, posts mean a lot. That statement kind of shows your infatuation with getbig. I do more posting down in the alphabet boards than I do on the others. But good job pointing that out, might want to work on your insulting game.  ::)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 24, 2006, 10:30:03 AM
Because they're Americans and I think most Americans would like to see an American fight rather than a Jap. Are you that stupid? Stick to watching TUF, I heard you taped all of last season and spend your Saturday nights jerking off to it.

when did I say they had to asian or as you say a jap ::)

josh barnett is american and he has a victory over randy couture a guy everybody loves

my god you are the dumbest guy here i seriously feel guilty about owning you :-\

keep bringing up tuf after i called you a tuf newbie lol

me: "you're ugly"

berzerkury: "no you're ugly"

hahahahahhaahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 24, 2006, 10:32:57 AM
Speaking of newbs... Berzerk, you might want to take a peek at Earl's post count...LOL


yes a whopping 4.7 posts per day over the course of two years hahahahaha

i'm not even close to being a getbig regular compared to others

you knwo somebody is owned when they bring up your post count lmao :D :D :D :D

who else are you, i'm sure you are bitter about a past owning

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 24, 2006, 10:36:09 AM
this thread is almost getting as entertaining as the fights themselves....where's Big John when you need him? "Lets get it on!!!"  ;D

ever see cro cop fight igor

i'm cro cop

the rest are igor

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2006, 11:45:09 AM
ever see cro cop fight igor

i'm cro cop

the rest are igor

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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I think you're more of a Dos Caras Junior to be honest. Just like Dos Caras thought he could fight, you think you know what you're talking about. Sadly, both aren't true. I'm not Equipose by the way. Post counts mean absolutely nothing to me. Look at knny and toxic avenger for example.  ::)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 24, 2006, 02:28:18 PM
Gee golly, posts mean a lot. That statement kind of shows your infatuation with getbig. I do more posting down in the alphabet boards than I do on the others. But good job pointing that out, might want to work on your insulting game.  ::)

My insulting game? are we back to this grade 6 b.s ??, some people have access to the internet at work, esp. when they have their own office.. might want to factor that into your little equation there. Don't bother replying, I'm done with this b.s
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2006, 04:39:05 PM
My insulting game? are we back to this grade 6 b.s ??, some people have access to the internet at work, esp. when they have their own office.. might want to factor that into your little equation there. Don't bother replying, I'm done with this b.s


What do you think I'm doing posting on Getbig throughout the day on weekdays dipshit? Or are you the only person in this world who works. Next time don't stick your nose in a thread if you're going to meltdown from one post that insults you.
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 24, 2006, 10:36:20 PM
What do you think I'm doing posting on Getbig throughout the day on weekdays dipshit? Or are you the only person in this world who works. Next time don't stick your nose in a thread if you're going to meltdown from one post that insults you.

STFU you little bitch, I've been on this site for over 5 years, I'm not going take shit from some newb with 140 posts like you, fucking troll..
and meltdown? LOL I don't think you know what a meltdown is little boy,  f*cking lamer go back to mayhem and suck some cock.
You're probably some 160lb. dipshit living in your mom's basement, LOL
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Earl1972 on August 25, 2006, 12:39:22 PM
I think you're more of a Dos Caras Junior to be honest. Just like Dos Caras thought he could fight, you think you know what you're talking about.

keep telling yourself that it should help you sleep better at night 8)

btw you and the captain have so much in common (ie stupidity) i'm surprised you two haven't moved in with each other yet

lovers quarrel? ???

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Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: gmflex on September 02, 2006, 08:29:53 PM
Pride is better than ufc....
justmy2cents.... 8)
Title: Re: Pride's US debut matchups.....
Post by: Scimowser on September 11, 2006, 02:46:23 PM
poster looks shit hot, far better than anything Zuffa can come up with