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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2006, 07:58:24 AM
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I hadn't heard of this until last night, when he discussed smashing his trophy, etc. Was anyone there, and does anyone have the complete story? He won, but the crowd disagreed, and booed. Why did this lead to the trophy ending up in a trash can, were words exchanged onstage, etc?
Any video clips?
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I was there and let me tell you the crowd went absolutely fuckin nuts when they announced Dillet as the winner. Everyone thought Markus Ruhl should have taken that one. They litterally had to escort the judges out of the bldg as people went after them. Insane.
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So Ruhl was FOURTH but looked good enough to win?
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Milos was there, he posts here regularly, will be interesting to see what he has to say.
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I remember pics of Steve W. the head judge for the IFBB stood up and started yelling at the crowd and stuff. I think Demillia even said something like "here's your judges take it out on them" or something like that. Steve always seemed like a prick to me, challenging Shawn to fights backstage at the O, this...arrogant prick.
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If nobody was there, how could they boo him offstage?
Think before you ask.
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I remember pics of Steve W. the head judge for the IFBB stood up and started yelling at the crowd and stuff. I think Demillia even said something like "here's your judges take it out on them" or something like that. Steve always seemed like a prick to me, challenging Shawn to fights backstage at the O, this...arrogant prick.
Yes. Steve has "unhappy" face always. I didnt know that he challenged to Ray.
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Yes. Steve has "unhappy" face always. I didnt know that he challenged to Ray.
I think him and shawn went at it bacause Steve was backstage at the O helping dorian get ready and shawn said something like "man, must be nice to have someone help you get ready" cause I guess no one else got to have anyone else backstage and then steve went nuts. I think Shawn was right on this one and it again proves to me that steve is one of those guys who tries to get his way by yelling and intimidating people, I can't stand that shit.
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I think him and shawn went at it bacause Steve was backstage at the O helping dorian get ready and shawn said something like "man, must be nice to have someone help you get ready" cause I guess no one else got to have anyone else backstage and then steve went nuts. I think Shawn was right on this one and it again proves to me that steve is one of those guys who tries to get his way by yelling and intimidating people, I can't stand that shit.
I think he said "I wish we all had a personal assistant"
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Yes. Steve has "unhappy" face always. I didnt know that he challenged to Ray.
I personally haven't heard anything good of the guy.
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I think he said "I wish we all had a personal assistant"
I was kinda close....
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Steve Weinburger is a fcuking idit if you ask me.
Where did Dorian prep for his US Olympia's?
Fcuking Weinburger.
I'd like to know Gold Ray's take on this.
YIP
Zack
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So Ruhl was FOURTH but looked good enough to win?
Yup. The placings were all fucked up. Milos Sarcev and Markus Ruhl
were very much underrated and were rarely called out for comparisons.
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Yup. The placings were all fucked up. Milos Sarcev and Markus Ruhl
were very much underrated and were rarely called out for comparisons.
Who was Dillet signed with back then?
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So Ruhl was FOURTH but looked good enough to win?
Reminds me of the World's Masters............when the person who should have won, doesn't even make top 3..... ::)
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small ass pic... but here is one i found ..
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small ass pic... but here is one i found ..
Markus and "that guy on the left" both beat Dildo.
YIP
Zack
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i think that pic is from the year markus won the NOC and Chic came 2nd. Wasnt that also Paco Bautistas debut?
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Who was Dillet signed with back then?
I think Twin Lab.
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I think he said "I wish we all had a personal assistant"
only mr. olympias are allowed personal assistants backstage. comes with the title.
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He has some serious problems. I don't think he is allowed into the states. He may be able to only to compete but i'm not sure. Problems with the law. If thats the case, he needs to really do well at this up comin Montreal Pro show. He will have his hands full as Darrem Charles is competing. On the plus side he has Muscletech as a sponser.
PB
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Paul presented himself very well in that interview.
Also, Dan and Bob did an excellent job interviewing him and asking tough questions (regarding his "freeze", retarded posing and the whole racist shit).
Paul can definitely win the Montreal show, who's gonna stop him Tamali and his pencil thin arms?
Everyone has a distended gut nowadays, and Paul is just as huge as any of them.
Will he ever improve his posing, unlikely, but should still be good enough to win.
No way ruhl could have beet Dillet in 99, absolutely no way.
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Paul presented himself very well in that interview.
Also, Dan and Bob did an excellent job interviewing him and asking tough questions (regarding his "freeze", retarded posing and the whole racist shit).
Paul can definitely win the Montreal show, who's gonna stop him Tamali and his pencil thin arms?
Everyone has a distended gut nowadays, and Paul is just as huge as any of them.
Will he ever improve his posing, unlikely, but should still be good enough to win.
No way ruhl could have beet Dillet in 99, absolutely no way.
Dillet has NO hope of winning in montreal unless the fix is in...
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Ruhl 99 NOC :o
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_009.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_010.jpg)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_011.jpg)
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Paul presented himself very well in that interview.
Also, Dan and Bob did an excellent job interviewing him and asking tough questions (regarding his "freeze", retarded posing and the whole racist shit).
Paul can definitely win the Montreal show, who's gonna stop him Tamali and his pencil thin arms?
Everyone has a distended gut nowadays, and Paul is just as huge as any of them.
Will he ever improve his posing, unlikely, but should still be good enough to win.
No way ruhl could have beet Dillet in 99, absolutely no way.
What show were you watching, I was a Dillet fan but there was no wa he was better than Ruhl that day.
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Jurassic Paul :o
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_001.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_002.jpg)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_003.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_004.jpg)
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Ruhl 99 NOC :o
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_009.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_010.jpg)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_011.jpg)
Wow! Red Skin too!
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The fact that Paul can't do a front lat spread to save his life should automatically disqualify him from any show >:(
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The fact that Paul can't do a front lat spread to save his life should automatically disqualify him from any show >:(
I totally agree Mindspin.
How hard is it to learn how to pose really?
I've taught several guys how to do it for shows even guys who were national level and were terrible terrible posers with basically zero body awareness.... even then 4-5 lessions were all that were needed if they listened properly.
Dillet says his shoulder problems hurt his posing but give me a break. If you can train you can pose end of story...
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I agree, posing for mandatories should not be hard if you are at a level to compete seriously, now a good posing routine is different.............
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Look at those calves on paul! Could you imagine Ronnie would those calves :o
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Look at his arms...THEY ARE HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUGE!!!!
God he is such a spazz when it comes to posing tho.
It's almost like he doesn't even bother to fully flex.
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I agree, posing for mandatories should not be hard if you are at a level to compete seriously, now a good posing routine is different.............
Dillet could have had some awesome posing routines.
The problem was everyone was trying to get him to do fancy bob paris type moves which are a waste on him.
He needed to identify about 10-12 good poses for himself.
He could do a simple 2 full rotation routine the way Lee Haney did for 10 years+. ie. start with 2 front poses, rotate to the left and do 2 side poses, rotate to the left (now back to the stage) and do 2 poses, rotate to the left again and do 2 poses, rotate back to facing audience and do 2 poses. Second rotation would probably only comprise one strong pose in each of the 4 angles and then finish with a most muscular.
Maximum 2 minute routine. Leave the audience wanting more (how many guys overstay their welcome? yates always had the shortest routines)
He shouldn't do ANY kneeling or semi-kneeling poses at all. He is too tall to pull them off plus he has great legs so why bother.
step 1 would be to master the poses WITHOUT using a mirror only video.
step 2 would be to work on the transitions of which he is pretty bad.
Haney and Arnold were GREAT at transitions. Arnold was probably the best IMO. He never went from an arms down pose to another arms down pose without a full sweep of the arms to create the effect of more movement. How many guys do you see doing a most muscular but not doing a full sweep of the arms the way shawn ray did? most and it looks shit. Get those arms moving around more and then BAM hit the pose with force...
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I actually tried working with him. It was hopeless...
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I actually tried working with him. It was hopeless...
Amazing how some bbbers have ZERO body awareness... unbelievable
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i think paul deserved to win
ruhl has a very ugly physique
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Dillett at the 99 NOC, came in soft, compared to his 1997 Arnold shape. He even said it was like a "guest posing". Ruhl or Dexter should have won it. I have the Flex magazine, and Shawn had said Ruhl should have won as well, he walked out right after the they announced second place
Paul had said "F**k NEW YORK", and explained afterward that crowd was talking about his mother, and the crowd didn't know that she was there. Paul said this was the first bodybuilding show she has ever attending, and the fact he won (was given the contest) with his mother in the audience was special.
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The fact that Paul can't do a front lat spread to save his life should automatically disqualify him from any show >:(
How about even holding a pose
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i think paul deserved to win
ruhl has a very ugly physique
100% agree.
Also IMO these are the best legs from top to bottom ever
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I disagree.....Ruhl was teh shit that day
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shawn ray said he was there and shook his head in disgust on how bad the judging was. i believe he said ruhl should have won hands down. maybe he can chime in,...
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I disagree.....Ruhl was teh shit that day
Paul had no visible straitions whatsoever. His chest were two brown blobs with a big worm hole running underneath it (his vein). He was hold ing more water than the Lake Ponchartrain Basin. How he won, I don't know. That is like if Lee Lebrada beat Flex Wheeler at the 93 Arnold, you would be scratching your head till this day.
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Paul had no visible straitions whatsoever. His chest were two brown blobs with a big worm hole running underneath it (his vein). He was hold ing more water than the Lake Ponchartrain Basin. How he won, I don't know. That is like if Lee Lebrada beat Flex Wheeler at the 93 Arnold, you would be scratching your head till this day.
Even though Paul can't pose, he is huge as hell. And pretty (as good as you can be) aesthetic at that size.
Rhul is just a jumble of bodyparts and synthol.
No way in hell he should have won.
He prolly should have beat dexter, but no way he could be the freak.
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Even though Paul can't pose, he is huge as hell.
& smooth
I guess it doesn't really matter since it's just a bodybuilding competition
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I guess Synthol was making a guest appearance at that show...
Look at dexter's calves! :P
(http://eastcoastmuscle.com/1999nocjackson016.jpg)
Ernie's arms! :P
(http://eastcoastmuscle.com/1999noctaylor098.jpg)
And last but not least, who could forget this classic... ::)
(http://eastcoastmuscle.com/1999nocsarcev055.jpg)
No wonder, Big Paul got booed, he was the only one there who didn't use synthol
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Why Milos why???? :'(
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Dillet on a bad day beats Marcus on his very best day....Dillet is one of the most gentically gifted bodybuilders ever..Where ruhl on the other hand is just a collection of bodyparts.. :'(
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Ernie's arms look like total shit !
I can't believe he denied the synthol rumor
I don't say anything about Milos's arms, they looked really bad but at least he admited it !
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Ruhl 99 NOC :o
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_009.jpg) (http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_010.jpg)
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Night_of_Champions/1999/NOC_1999_011.jpg)
Ok, proof positive. You CAN'T get in better shape than that and the man is absolutely fucking GIANT. When he looks like that I cannot see why anyone would beat him to include Ronnie.
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must have something to do with Markus' hair
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Nice Bi's Milos
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I would have given it to Ruhl. I thought Dillet was showing signs of Palumboism at that show. I remember seeing the photos years ago (long before we knew it as "Palumboism") and I thought that this look reminded me vaguely of the look Yates had onstage in '94 - sort of a "burned out" look, as one of the writers in one of the non-Weider mags used to say - the same look later taken to ridiculous extremes by Kovacs and patented by Palumbo.
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Nice Bi's Milos
you avatar hypnothysed me :o
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Ok, proof positive. You CAN'T get in better shape than that and the man is absolutely fucking GIANT. When he looks like that I cannot see why anyone would beat him to include Ronnie.
yeah but he don't look like that no more. He hasn't seen that kind of seperation in years and probably never will again.
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Dillet on a bad day beats Marcus on his very best day....Dillet is one of the most gentically gifted bodybuilders ever..Where ruhl on the other hand is just a collection of bodyparts.. :'(
I agree wholeheartedly