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in 1979 before russia invaded??
is osama ex cia and cia trained?
how do u create the perfect soldier..one that not only dosen't fear death..but welcomes it!
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They did.
That's pretty much common knowledge.
They even were using American Stinger missles, etc.
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http://globalresearch.ca/articles/TAL111A.html
now comon knwlode to me...i just started reading up on this
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they didn't create it, but they certainly encouraged it.
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they didn't create it, but they certainly encouraged it.
yanno i can understand encouraging something like that...BUT diffuse the fucking situation before leaving eh...
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yanno i can understand encouraging something like that...BUT diffuse the fucking situation before leaving eh...
it seemed a natural counter to the anti-religious communists . . . the lesser of two evils turned out to be the greater one in this case.
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it seemed a natural counter to the anti-religious communists . . . the lesser of two evils turned out to be the greater one in this case.
by diffuse the situation i mean kill every on of the 'encouraged' fundamentalist before leaving...most of em just walked into pakistan >:( and my ass had to deal with em while growing up :(
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by diffuse the situation i mean kill every on of the 'encouraged' fundamentalist before leaving...most of em just walked into pakistan >:( and my ass had to deal with em while growing up :(
i guess you could say that they're trying to "defuse" the situation now . . .
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i guess you could say that they're trying to "defuse" the situation now . . .
true...but its getting out of hand..islam really is a peacefull religion and these 'encouraged' people have spread their hatred deep and almost succeeded in almost changing a religion...
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true...but its getting out of hand..islam really is a peacefull religion and these 'encouraged' people have spread their hatred deep and almost succeeded in almost changing a religion...
Oh brother ::)
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Oh brother ::)
relax..before i be head yer ass... :) haven't i told ya not to post in my threads.. :-\ so much for manners... :-\
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true...but its getting out of hand..islam really is a peacefull religion and these 'encouraged' people have spread their hatred deep and almost succeeded in almost changing a religion...
people have always used religion for violent ends . . . Islam was born in violence b/w Meccans and Medinans, and quickly turned to conquest as a means of propagation. then the Crusades . . . took it to a whole new level.
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relax..before i be head yer ass... :) haven't i told ya not to post in my threads.. :-\ so much for manners... :-\
You can tell me to do what ever the fuck you want. I'm pretty sure I won't do it tho.
MANSLAG
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You can tell me to do what ever the f**k you want. I'm pretty sure I won't do it tho.
MANSLAG
you self melt pretty quick :)
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They should have just left well enough alone. It's the constant interefering with others that keeps starting all the problems and the blowback is horrendous. It's like peeing in the wind. What smart man pees in the wind?
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2397496401234089687&q=secret+government
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Domino Theory,
If Afghanistan fell, then Russia would have been in Pakistian in a matter of months.
Same as the Iraq and Iran war.
It was important to stop Iran from become a military power since they were on side with Russia.
Your enemies enemy is your friend.
That's the government line.
I honestly don't know if it made that much of a difference though.
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Domino Theory,
If Afghanistan fell, then Russia would have been in Pakistian in a matter of months.
Same as the Iraq and Iran war.
It was important to stop Iran from become a military power since they were on side with Russia.
Your enemies enemy is your friend.
That's the government line.
I honestly don't know if it made that much of a difference though.
READ THE article.....SOME SAY THE ops..some say the attack ws provoked..hense i posted the vid about "secret govt"
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READ THE article.....SOME SAY THE ops..some say the attack ws provoked..hense i posted the vid about "secret govt"
Toxie, that's pure nonsense. It was jealousy of America and her 'freedom'. ;)
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7472823022720725604&q=the+secret+government
watch this video..its different from the other secret govt vid i posted..everything points to the SAME group of people..some call em the illumaniti..some call em the majestic...watch...
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Oh I'm pretty familiar with them, ...and a few others. They've carved up the globe pretty nicely. :'(
I'm willing to watch the video tho to see what it can add that I might not already now
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Oh brother ::)
I don't practice Islam, and while I do believe that any extremist who commits crimes should be served justice hard and swift, I think that your brainwashed mentality of "All people of that faith are terrorists" is exactly what your govt wants from you in order to preserve your blind support of whatever actions they choose to implement in the region.
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Oh I'm pretty familiar with them, ...and a few others. They've carved up the globe pretty nicely. :'(
I'm willing to watch the video tho to see what it can add that I might not already now
if you research this stuff like i do...the MY video prespective..you'll come across amazing stuff one day only for it to disapear from google a few hours later...
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Oh I'm pretty familiar with them, ...and a few others. They've carved up the globe pretty nicely. :'(
I'm willing to watch the video tho to see what it can add that I might not already now
Wow, you conspiracy nuts really are fucking mad! ;D
PS. Can I join your pyramid scheme Jag?
I don't practice Islam, and while I do believe that any extremist who commits crimes should be served justice hard and swift, I think that your brainwashed mentality of "All people of that faith are terrorists" is exactly what your govt wants from you in order to preserve your blind support of whatever actions they choose to implement in the region.
I don't trust my goverment one bit. They are bureaucratic liberal apologists, hell bent on the destruction of the indigenous people and values.
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Yeah, thats it...it's all one big conspiracy ::)!!
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I don't trust my goverment one bit. They are bureaucratic liberal apologists, hell bent on the destruction of the indigenous people and values.
what country are you from?
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Looks like the video has been removed. I know the author's work tho. Been familiar with him since '98.
Alot of his books were banned from a bookstore in Toronto and he's been constantly hassled just trying to fly into Canada to give a lecture.
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Looks like the video has been removed. I know the author's work tho. Been familiar with him since '98.
Alot of his books were banned from a bookstore in Toronto and he's been constantly hassled just trying to fly into Canada to give a lecture.
after clicking link
go to tools..internetoptions.. del files. ok...then re load the page..it'll work then
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7472823022720725604&q=the+secret+government
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'conspiracy' is a very big blanket term used to label anything not of the norm.
The group which has held world power since WW2 is a loosely affiliated number of rich men who help influence politics in nations all over the world. They are based in ISR, Eur, USA, and other places. They keep leashes on the drug trade, they profit greatly from war and defense contracting, they assure similar 2-party systems in most countries, they invest in wall street, they set up and control the media, and other aspects of our lives.
They are there, and they keep the planet busy and running. They are built upon a utilitarianism mindset. They have no problem creating a set of circumstances where 10,000 might die, if 1 million are assured a higher quality of life.
read about em. they're out there, and they always will be. that's just life.
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what country are you from?
England.
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'conspiracy' is a very big blanket term used to label anything not of the norm.
The group which has held world power since WW2 is a loosely affiliated number of rich men who help influence politics in nations all over the world. They are based in ISR, Eur, USA, and other places. They keep leashes on the drug trade, they profit greatly from war and defense contracting, they assure similar 2-party systems in most countries, they invest in wall street, they set up and control the media, and other aspects of our lives.
They are there, and they keep the planet busy and running. They are built upon a utilitarianism mindset. They have no problem creating a set of circumstances where 10,000 might die, if 1 million are assured a higher quality of life.
read about em. they're out there, and they always will be. that's just life.
The founder of Skull & Bones Society made their family fortune in opium trafficking.
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England.
Then it's very good that you don't trust your govt.
7/7 was an inside job too, mate.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
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Then it's very good that you don't trust your govt.
7/7 was an inside job too, mate.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
And you sincerely believe this? ???
The asian tsunami was also the result of a controlled explosion plotted by the illuminati right?
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And you sincerely believe this? ???
LOL... dude, watch the clip. Didja know that there were 4 bomb squads conveniently on the scene of those 4 bombings in London on 7/7? They were a block away to arrive and clean up before the local PD even got there. Watch the video if you have the guts.
I challenge you to debate the points made in this clip. For 9/11, at least they tried to hide things. For 7/7, they just had the bomb squads waiting ready.
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7/7 was sloppy as hell.
There's alot of perplexing conundrums about that one if anyone cares to truly examine it.
Same with the murder of Menezes. It's not discussed as often, but that stinks to high heaven.
You'd think after Spain, they'd have been a little more careful. Guess not. :-\
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after clicking link
go to tools..internetoptions.. del files. ok...then re load the page..it'll work then
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7472823022720725604&q=the+secret+government
It won't work for me toxie, I just don't have enough space to keep the video going.
At 1hr. 28 mins, I'm gonna have to view another time, ...but I'll get back to it.
Google videos collect in my Temp and don't delete themselves no matter how much I try to clear the cache.
It's not David Icke, ...it's kind of grainy, but it looks like Jordan Maxwell. Is that who it is?
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LOL... dude, watch the clip. Didja know that there were 4 bomb squads conveniently on the scene of those 4 bombings in London on 7/7? They were a block away to arrive and clean up before the local PD even got there. Watch the video if you have the guts.
I challenge you to debate the points made in this clip. For 9/11, at least they tried to hide things. For 7/7, they just had the bomb squads waiting ready.
I'm on Linux at the moment, Flash Video Players won't work :'(
I'll get back to you tomorrow after i've watched the vid.
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240, Jaguar-
So terrorism doesn't exist?
There are no terror cells, and Al QaeThe spada is a bunch of nice guys?
Hezbollah was trying to be friends and wanted to take the Isreali soldiers out to dinner.
Western Democracies feel like killing their own? Yet somehow Al Qaeda has claimed responsiblity for all of these acts.
The spanish act was an inside job too. Too bad the the lgovernemnt changed after the attack and the new governement pulled Spain out of Iraq over it.
Is there a single insident in the last 20 years that might be the fault of someone other than the government?
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this thread ws supposed to go in a different direction :(
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240, Jaguar-
So terrorism doesn't exist?
There are no terror cells, and Al QaeThe spada is a bunch of nice guys?
Hezbollah was trying to be friends and wanted to take the Isreali soldiers out to dinner.
Western Democracies feel like killing their own? Yet somehow Al Qaeda has claimed responsiblity for all of these acts.
The spanish act was an inside job too. Too bad the the lgovernemnt changed after the attack and the new governement pulled Spain out of Iraq over it.
Is there a single insident in the last 20 years that might be the fault of someone other than the government?
Some events are self-inflictions, some are carried out by terrorist groups.
After 9/11, Al Quida, a group which always takes credit for its attacks, did NOT accept responsibility for 9/11. They denied it. They demanded proof. The US didn't have any.
So, the US invaded, and "found" a video which has an actor portraying bin Laden in it, taking credit. This is the ONLY piece of evidence against him. And the FBI has even discounted it. bin Laden is NOT listed as responsible for 911 on their website. weird, eh?
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give it up rob
there r no such things as ufos nasa dosen't know a thing about em
muslims did 911
the koran tells muslims to kill every one non muslim
the face on mars is just a rock formation
everything is honkydory in mah world :)
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the face on mars is just a rock formation
roflmao! you actually believe it's something other than a rock formation?
fuck me toxic... your coke addiction has really fucked with your brains. :-X
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/911.hijacker/index.html?section=cnn_world (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/911.hijacker/index.html?section=cnn_world)
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roflmao! you actually believe it's something other than a rock formation?
f**k me toxic... your coke addiction has really fucked with your brains. :-X
i see a face...you also see a face...the govt tells you you dont see a face...now all of a sudden you dont see a face..idiot
(http://www.csicop.org/si/8512/face-on-mars.jpg)
spare me your debunking...read it all already
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240, Jaguar-
So terrorism doesn't exist?
There are no terror cells, and Al QaeThe spada is a bunch of nice guys?
Hezbollah was trying to be friends and wanted to take the Isreali soldiers out to dinner.
Why do people choose to discount argument A, by ridiculing an argument B which has not even been made?
Why not try to discount a theory that has infact been positted? I've never said terrorism doesn't exist.
I don't think 240 has said that either. We know terrorism exists. We've seen plenty of evidence of that around the world over the past 50 years, ...in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, the USS Liberty, the Contra terrorists um.. freedom fighters, etc., etc., right up to 911 and beyond. Terrorism is going on everyday.
As for Hezbollah, they didn't take the Israeli soldiers to dinner, ...they had them for lunch!
Western Democracies feel like killing their own?
On occassion ...yes. See: Pearl Harbor, declassified Operations Northwoods, or if necessary review the US civil war, or review the poison gas wafted over San Francisco, ...or the tests they conducted on army personnel giving them useless stuff to "research" when unbeknownst to the brave soldiers, they were infact the test. The government simply wanted to know what levels would produce death. Then too there were the Kent State shootings. The list of Western democracies killing their own is quite long. Now I realize that in Pearl Harbor, it was the Japanese who dropped those bombs, ...but by conspiring to bring the attack in the first place, then withholding the information about the impending attacks, as well as the subsequent removal of both radar, and code breaker machines, the US government was as guilty as if they had dropped those bombs themselves.
Yet somehow Al Qaeda has claimed responsiblity for all of these acts.
My understanding is that they have never claimed responsibility. They were blamed. But who knows... bin laden's last minute re-emergence to rally support behind Bush in the 2004 selection could simply have been fortuitous timing for Bush, ...or maybe bin laden is still on the payroll? {shrug}
The spanish act was an inside job too.
No, common thought among the Spanish population is that it was a CIA op designed to scare the populace and influence the elections to ensure Spain's troops remained. They failed to take into account the Spaniards have years of experience dealing with Basque separatists, and weren't frightened into giving up their freedoms. They instead chose to assert them even stronger at the ballot box.
Too bad the the lgovernemnt changed after the attack and the new governement pulled Spain out of Iraq over it.
The new government specifically ran an anti-war platform that had the pull out of Spanish troops at the top of the agenda. The invasion was never popular with the Spanish. That's what the people wanted all along - a pull out of their troops, and that's what they got. That's how it works in a democracy (US not withstanding) ;)
Is there a single insident in the last 20 years that might be the fault of someone other than the government?
Tons of things ...like Bjork's swan dress at the Oscars for one :o What was she thinking?! ::)
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Why does eveything on here turn into some sorta ridiculous conspiracy. As far as the CIA in Afghanistan.....By 1986 the Russians had pretty much crushed the Mujh's. CIA support was almost non existant up until then. Then the Chief of Station in Pakistan was able to ge some stingers sent in to Afghanistan. The agents on the ground had begged for surface to air missles because Soviet heliborne air assualt units were chewing up up the resistance. It took the Soviets awhile to figure out how to fight here but when they did.......... Anyway the stingers made it to a group outside KAF...Kandahar Airfield and they shot down 4 Soviet choppers. The war changed that day. The CIA poured in more arms and money. We dropped the ball here in 1994 when we basically turned our back on the afghni's. The Talibn was able to take power. It took place on Slick Willy's watch. I don't really blame him because the nuts and bolts of our Intelligence services are all civil servants who had been in place for years. The Northern Alliance was in control of Kabul but lost it to Taliban forces. Massod was a popular leader here...he gave a shit about this country. Bin Laden had him killed on Sept 10,2001. Gee I wonder why....oh yeah we did 911 ourselves.
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As far as the Cydonian face. Looks like one to me..further there are three fairly large and visible pyrimids pretty close to it. We never launch those Mars rovers anywhere near that thing. Its the one place everybody wants to go.
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hey HH6, you're doing a great thing, fighting for our nation, and you get my props and respect. You have to believe in the mission you're fighting. Otherwise, why would you get up and put you ass on the line everyday?
I guess I'm saying that if you knew, for an absolute fact, that 911 was an inside job, you'd probably go a little bit crazy. You're getting shot at and dealing with IEDs as a part of bush's ongoing war on terror, right? If you suddenly found out that the event that started the war- 911- was actually a self-inflicted wound, it would do a few things.
First, you'd realize that you've been duped. That the same ideals you're risking your life for, are nothing more than lies designed to get you to kick the crap out of people on the other side of the world. Next, you'd realize that the people you're battling with... well, they already know that 911 was staged, and just a reason to get into war. They're in their own streets defending their country against some men with guns who came into their country using a lie for which they were framed. Ouch.
Dude, I don't want you to learn the truth til you get home. You're currently fighting because you believe in something. For those of us who have read about this for many hours home in the USA, the truth is something that we can handle. But as long as you're over there, anything which casts doubt upon your reason for being there is bad.
So keep on doing what you're doing. Fight hard and do your job. But when you get home, and you no longer have to believe Bush's Theory just to stay alive... well, when that day comes, please do open minded research and learn the truth.
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hey HH6, you're doing a great thing, fighting for our nation, and you get my props and respect. You have to believe in the mission you're fighting. Otherwise, why would you get up and put you ass on the line everyday?
I guess I'm saying that if you knew, for an absolute fact, that 911 was an inside job, you'd probably go a little bit crazy. You're getting shot at and dealing with IEDs as a part of bush's ongoing war on terror, right? If you suddenly found out that the event that started the war- 911- was actually a self-inflicted wound, it would do a few things.
First, you'd realize that you've been duped. That the same ideals you're risking your life for, are nothing more than lies designed to get you to kick the crap out of people on the other side of the world. Next, you'd realize that the people you're battling with... well, they already know that 911 was staged, and just a reason to get into war. They're in their own streets defending their country against some men with guns who came into their country using a lie for which they were framed. Ouch.
Dude, I don't want you to learn the truth til you get home. You're currently fighting because you believe in something. For those of us who have read about this for many hours home in the USA, the truth is something that we can handle. But as long as you're over there, anything which casts doubt upon your reason for being there is bad.
So keep on doing what you're doing. Fight hard and do your job. But when you get home, and you no longer have to believe Bush's Theory just to stay alive... well, when that day comes, please do open minded research and learn the truth.
This is exactly why I don't look to close at this stuff. Besides you have already heard my lack of faith in anybody to pull this off. Especially the folks in our government. Besides I'd much rather debate the existence of the face on Mars..no Martian is taking a shot at me yet...maybe :P
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This is exactly why I don't look to close at this stuff. Besides you have already heard my lack of faith in anybody to pull this off. Especially the folks in our government. Besides I'd much rather debate the existence of the face on Mars..no Martian is taking a shot at me yet...maybe :P
LOL.. I can respect that.
Many would argue that they *didn't* pull it off- because there is so much evidence of an inside job. 63% of Canada believes we did it. 36% of Americans believe we did it. I don't know what they believe in Eur where info flows more freely.
You're a positive and open minded guy. I hope you take care of yourself and make it home. Don't ask too many questions while you're over there, but keep your eyes open.
When you do get home, sit back and enjoy what is becoming a fireworks show over here of this new "Truth" movement. It's on every college campus, it's water cooler talk at a lot of companies, and there are thousands of people who do this for a living- they just spend their days handing out DVDs, talking with people, researching, building sites about it, and basically, just growing the Truth movement.
it's weird - it's like another army! Their weapon is information and their enemy has all the power... but they've won 36% of the battlefield already, using just their words and the info they share. They work for free. They risk redicule. But they do it because they believe it's their duty as Americans to fight for what is right.
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Why does eveything on here turn into some sorta ridiculous conspiracy. As far as the CIA in Afghanistan.....By 1986 the Russians had pretty much crushed the Mujh's. CIA support was almost non existant up until then. Then the Chief of Station in Pakistan was able to ge some stingers sent in to Afghanistan. The agents on the ground had begged for surface to air missles because Soviet heliborne air assualt units were chewing up up the resistance. It took the Soviets awhile to figure out how to fight here but when they did.......... Anyway the stingers made it to a group outside KAF...Kandahar Airfield and they shot down 4 Soviet choppers. The war changed that day. The CIA poured in more arms and money. We dropped the ball here in 1994 when we basically turned our back on the afghni's. The Talibn was able to take power. It took place on Slick Willy's watch. I don't really blame him because the nuts and bolts of our Intelligence services are all civil servants who had been in place for years. The Northern Alliance was in control of Kabul but lost it to Taliban forces. Massod was a popular leader here...he gave a shit about this country. Bin Laden had him killed on Sept 10,2001. Gee I wonder why....oh yeah we did 911 ourselves.
{LOL} I love how you called them the resistance. THEY WERE TERRORISTS! Afghanistan was a communist country.
The Mujahadeen were not resistors, ...they were paid terrorists sent in there to disrupt the country :P
Then the USA screams "Oh My GAWD! The Russians have invaded Afghanistan... boycott the Olympics!"
If Russian financed terrorist groups were to invade and disrupt an American protectorate, do you for a minute think American military wouldn't be dispatched? Puleaze!
Here's a suggestion, ...ignore the political threads. Keep your head down. Dodge the bullets IEDs and stay alive.
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. CIA support was almost non existant up until then.
then all of a sudden..they came to the rescue...keRploW!! ::)
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As far as the Cydonian face. Looks like one to me..further there are three fairly large and visible pyrimids pretty close to it. We never launch those Mars rovers anywhere near that thing. Its the one place everybody wants to go.
thankyou!
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=nasa+ufo+evidence watch part 1 and 2.....
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then all of a sudden..they came to the rescue...keRploW!! ::)
Toxie, do you mean sorta like 'create the problem in order to provide the solution'? hmmm.... interesting.
...kinda like a new world order out of chaos? I've heard the order out of chaos theory before.
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Toxie, do you mean sorta like 'create the problem in order to provide the solution'? hmmm.... interesting.
no..just for money and more importantly ..power..and its not specifically the cia or American people..you're read of the illumaniti..if ya watch the secret govt vid about UFO disclosure and google the documents the guy speaking mentions..you'll be surprised and disturbed....
and most of the governments on this planet know of it...yanno neil armstrong to date has only done 1 public interview after his return from the moon...JUST 1...
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no..just for money and more importantly ..power..and its not specifically the cia or American people..you're read of the illumaniti..if ya watch the secret govt vid about UFO disclosure and google the documents the guy speaking mentions..you'll be surprised and disturbed....
and most of the governments on this planet know of it...yanno neil armstrong to date has only done 1 public interview after his return from the moon...JUST 1...
:o really? hmmm... just fascinating! Do tell me more. ;D
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Jag I spent an entire year studying the war and major battles during the Russian occupation of this country. If u want to debate lets go...anyway . The locals or resistance were augmented by arabs answering the call to holy war. They do this crap all over the place. It was American foreign policy to support the enmies of the Soviet Union. And despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of the Afghans..the Soviets did horrible things to the people here. If we had not helped...they would have lost.
Hey Toxie..as far as ur post about "then all of a sudden..they came to the rescue...keRploW!! "..well it was all but over until the stingers arrived. The soviets began using air assualt tactics..instead of Armor. They sorta looked at what we did in Vietnam and saw that it would work better here. Not as much cover etc....Anyway if the stingers didn't work it would have been over.
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The bottom line remains Afghanistan was legitimately a communist country.
The Soviets went in to quell unrest. The fact that your government supported & financed terrorists bent on destroying & destabilizing a country is not good. So the stingers made a difference as a result of subversive interference and meddling into the affairs of others. And the Soviet Union became mired in debt, resulting in it's eventual collapse. Bravo. Had the Soviets still been around, such reckless foolhardiness on the part of your government wouldn't have taken place, ...and your butt might be stateside right now sipping a cold beer and taking in a Patriots game. Now it's looking like the same mucky quicksand the Soviets were trapped in, as a result of subversive meddling by a bunch of psychopathic madmen and the puppet they control, is about to swallow the Coalition of the willing as well. Blow back is a bitch huh? Anyway, I truly don't want to get into this with you at all. You're over there, do your job, keep your head down, dodge the IEDs, and hopefully get home soon.
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Your a communist as well heh ::) ;D :P
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Your a communist as well heh ::) ;D :P
{LOL} Y'all have attached so many labels to me, ...who the heck can keep them all straight. :D