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Title: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: fitnessman on September 01, 2006, 02:00:46 PM
Really now , i know some of you have a list

i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well

and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him

besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2006, 02:23:35 PM
Really now , i know some of you have a list

i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well

and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him

besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?

If you look at some of the pics of Kiung at 300, its just painful to look at.  Total lard ass and it looks really bad for the heart.

As far as Flex goes, didn't he have some health issues himself making it impossible to continue to compete? 
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: affy on September 01, 2006, 02:38:42 PM
If you look at some of the pics of Kiung at 300, its just painful to look at.  Total lard ass and it looks really bad for the heart.

As far as Flex goes, didn't he have some health issues himself making it impossible to continue to compete? 

he worked for ronnie...so that makes up for just about every one else he screwed up

which is everyone but ronnie..lol
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: JasonH on September 01, 2006, 02:41:15 PM
I think Flex was always going to have health issues by the way he allowed himself to be the gym's guinea pig during his amateur years. Chad didn't screw up Flex. Flex screwed up Flex.
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: akers1021 on September 01, 2006, 02:51:58 PM
I thought the Ninja's screwed up Flex     ;D
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: legbreaker on September 01, 2006, 03:01:10 PM
he worked for ronnie...so that makes up for just about every one else he screwed up

which is everyone but ronnie..lol

Any reasonable suggestion would work for Ronnie.  That really doesn't say too much.  Nutritionist...gimme a break, when in the world did these guys study nutrition?  They gather their info off the net...most don't even compete.  In any other sport they wouldn't even be considered for coaching, yet in BB they are used.
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: affy on September 01, 2006, 03:26:26 PM
Any reasonable suggestion would work for Ronnie.  That really doesn't say too much.  Nutritionist...gimme a break, when in the world did these guys study nutrition?  They gather their info off the net...most don't even compete.  In any other sport they wouldn't even be considered for coaching, yet in BB they are used.

agreed..chad is becomming a fatass too...anyone have pics of when he was built (if ever..lol)
Title: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: Darth Muscle on October 03, 2006, 05:09:15 PM
Both Ronnie and Gunter seemed to be going for too much size and failed to look their best.  Meanwhile, Victor and Melvin moved up and looked much improved, especially Melvin.  Did the guru drop the ball with the two big boys?
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: NubianMuscle on October 03, 2006, 05:16:33 PM
Did the guru drop the ball with the two big boys?
Chad probably didn't put enough mercury in his special hotel room administered diuretic. :-X
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: ronian on October 03, 2006, 05:19:43 PM
Chad did help ronnie win 8 olympias...I think this is more a case of coleman just getting too old.
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: Darth Muscle on October 03, 2006, 05:46:45 PM
But even Chad said he wanted Ronnie as close to 300lbs as possible.  He just looked to big, like they tried to go too far.  As far as Gunter.....I don't even know where to start.
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: jaejonna on October 03, 2006, 05:58:37 PM
It is , he told me today at Muscle Maxx in Venice... what a prick
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 03, 2006, 10:32:00 PM
I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.

Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: andydude00 on October 03, 2006, 10:41:39 PM
Ronnie's stomach got larger under Chad. I mean Ronnie had a really small waist before..... Can it be fixed??
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 04, 2006, 12:53:40 AM
Were all bodybuilders and we all know our own bodies. Most of us managed to learn what works best for us through trial and error. Chad is no superhuman that can predict the future of someones physique. I don't believe working with somebody as genetically gifted as Melvin or Victor is half as challenging as working with Ronnie or Gunter. Melvin and Vic are like Ronnie from 2000. There main goal is to put on quality mass and come in shredded. But Ronnie and Gunter already have tons of mass and the possibility of coming in off is far greater. A slight bit of water or fat can devastate a physique that is not exactly pleasing to the eye. Anyways, I wouldn't blame chad, all he can do is try.
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: the shadow on October 04, 2006, 01:05:22 AM
But even Chad said he wanted Ronnie as close to 300lbs as possible.  He just looked to big, like they tried to go too far.  As far as Gunter.....I don't even know where to start.
naaah man ronnie was not too big..he had no lats,his left leg looked all messed up and his infamous left triceps where not even there..his gut looked wider and he weighed in at 290lbs for the show..too soft and overall NOT BIG ENOUGH
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: slayer on October 04, 2006, 08:31:13 AM
naaah man ronnie was not too big..he had no lats,his left leg looked all messed up and his infamous left triceps where not even there..his gut looked wider and he weighed in at 290lbs for the show..too soft and overall NOT BIG ENOUGH
yup!
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: 240 is Back on October 04, 2006, 08:38:00 AM
ronnie= age and injury.
teh chad did well with melvin.

you put cutler with teh chad and he'd probably win 3 O's instead of 1.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: slayer on October 04, 2006, 08:43:04 AM
ronnie= age and injury.
teh chad did well with melvin.

you put cutler with teh chad and he'd probably win 3 O's instead of 1.
jay made the choice of pro life, ronnie and the gang decided to sell thier souls( or kidneys) to the devil!
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 04, 2006, 08:56:03 AM
Chad does everything for Ronnie.

Jay gets a little help from Aceto, but mostly does the rest himself.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 04, 2006, 09:09:41 AM
I think some of the guru's are very knowledgable but also push too many drugs on the guys.  As we saw in this Olympia, bigger is not always better.  So many are being vocal about seeing physiques like this again

Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: slayer on October 04, 2006, 09:10:42 AM
Chad does everything for Ronnie.

Jay gets a little help from Aceto, but mostly does the rest himself.
ronnies someones creation basically, hes just a yes sir man and does what hes told to do!
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: Royalty on October 04, 2006, 06:17:33 PM
ronnie= age and injury.
teh chad did well with melvin.

you put cutler with teh chad and he'd probably win 3 O's instead of 1.


jay works with aceto
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: HowieW on October 04, 2006, 06:22:49 PM
I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.



LOL KIng looks like one of those fat bodyguard mafia types from the Sapranos in that pic hehe.
As for Chad, well, I think he is a very smart guy. However, I do think most pros would be better off if they dropped all the pre contest gurus.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: HowieW on October 04, 2006, 06:25:36 PM
Were all bodybuilders and we all know our own bodies. Most of us managed to learn what works best for us through trial and error. Chad is no superhuman that can predict the future of someones physique. I don't believe working with somebody as genetically gifted as Melvin or Victor is half as challenging as working with Ronnie or Gunter. Melvin and Vic are like Ronnie from 2000. There main goal is to put on quality mass and come in shredded. But Ronnie and Gunter already have tons of mass and the possibility of coming in off is far greater. A slight bit of water or fat can devastate a physique that is not exactly pleasing to the eye. Anyways, I wouldn't blame chad, all he can do is try.

Great post! I agree and let one of these gurus  get Alexx up to 280 ripped and then I will impressed.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 05, 2006, 12:59:17 PM
jay made the choice of pro life, ronnie and the gang decided to sell thier souls( or kidneys) to the devil!



"Look at me... I sold my kidneys to the devil!"

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99461.0;attach=107452;image)
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 05, 2006, 03:05:46 PM
I heard that Chad worked with TA for the Mr GetBig....that explains 2nd place again
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: mesomorph on October 05, 2006, 05:31:11 PM
Both Ronnie and Gunter seemed to be going for too much size and failed to look their best.  Meanwhile, Victor and Melvin moved up and looked much improved, especially Melvin.  Did the guru drop the ball with the two big boys?



yes it is chads fault.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 05, 2006, 09:50:50 PM
Chad did screw Tamali up.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: lonewolf on October 06, 2006, 12:34:07 PM
It's absolutely incredible that this guy hasn't killed anyone yet. Or has he? He could very well be the the most dangerous man in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: youandme on October 06, 2006, 12:43:04 PM
How does he tell people what to do when he looks like crap??? Looks like a redneck truckdriver. No offense Miss Karen
Title: Whats up chad ? Whats the deal with Big Ron?
Post by: Rampage on October 06, 2006, 07:59:19 PM
Chad Nicols is quite precise with his athletes.Whats the deal with Ronnie`s condition lately , this is an anomaly.Why isnt he hitting it ? I mean 8x Olympia..this man know how to hit it...the guess ork went out the window 6 years ago

Whats the deal with 8x Mr O not being able to hit it right on the money lately???
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 08, 2006, 02:07:24 AM
Politics = 2nd placings.
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on October 08, 2006, 03:39:48 AM
oh really, nothing to do with his condition this year?


ta ta
Title: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 08, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
Was it the overwhelming amount of drugs Chad had Ronnie that caused him to quite literally burn out?
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls fault?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 08, 2006, 10:35:11 AM
possibly ::)
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls fault?
Post by: figgs on October 08, 2006, 10:36:28 AM
If Chad is responsible for Ronnie's aging, then yes, he's responsible.
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls fault?
Post by: gmflex on October 08, 2006, 10:56:03 AM
It's Ronnies age!!
He needs to realize he can't go forever!!
I think Ronnie belived his own hype about being undefeated :-\
And now his gotten his wake up call
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 01:36:04 PM
Maybe....since there's two threads now started on the same subject

 ::)
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: youandme on October 08, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Chad's new quote "Why cumplain?"
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: slayer on October 08, 2006, 02:07:39 PM
no it wasnt chads fault, it was mattt fault. as reported earlier mattt arrived 2 hrs late in vegas and couldnt suck enuff water out of ronnies ass in time for prejudging... as we seen ronnie was a bit dryer  for the sat. show do to mattt suction cup lips!
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 08, 2006, 02:09:19 PM
Maybe....since there's two threads now started on the same subject

 ::)

Where is the other one?
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:20:04 PM
Where is the other one?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=97944.msg1414203#msg1414203

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=99461.msg1424232#msg1424232

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=98051.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=91882.0


take your pick

 ::)
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 08, 2006, 02:22:56 PM
3 of them were started a week ago and one of them a month ago. 

This one seems more important.

1
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:24:17 PM
*bump* for Onemorerep
Title: Re: Is it Chad Nichols's fault they are not doing well?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:24:57 PM
* bump * for onemorerep
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:27:33 PM
3 of them were started a week ago and one of them a month ago. 

This one seems more important.

1


there....now's there 4 more bumped right to the top

 ::)
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 08, 2006, 02:32:20 PM

there....now's there 4 more bumped right to the top

 ::)

Knny187,

You a moderator?

1
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:33:31 PM
Knny187,

You a moderator?

1

no....I'm a god

 ::)
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: Brian_Bullman on October 08, 2006, 02:34:08 PM
I thought the Ninja's screwed up Flex     ;D



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: Darth Muscle on October 08, 2006, 02:34:29 PM
Don Youngblood -  Dead
Flex Wheeler -       Kidney Transplant
Don Long -           Kidney Transplant
Tom Prince-          Kidney Dialysis
Nasser -               Body will not respond
King -                  Shape ruined
Kovacks-              Shape ruined
Ronnie -               8 Mr.O's, shape ruined
Victor and Melvin -  get out while you can
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Euro-monster on October 08, 2006, 02:35:57 PM
no....I'm a god

 ::)

Yeah...an avatar god so to speak... ::)
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:37:57 PM
Yeah...an avatar god so to speak... ::)

if there is such a thing
 ;)
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: youandme on October 08, 2006, 02:39:44 PM
What are chads credentials anyways? Great Expert Dieter
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Euro-monster on October 08, 2006, 02:39:53 PM
if there is such a thing
 ;)

lol.... ;)
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: gh15 on October 08, 2006, 02:47:41 PM
Don Youngblood -  Dead
Flex Wheeler -       Kidney Transplant
Don Long -           Kidney Transplant
Tom Prince-          Kidney Dialysis
Nasser -               Body will not respond
King -                  Shape ruined
Kovacks-              Shape ruined
Ronnie -               8 Mr.O's, shape ruined
Victor and Melvin -  get out while you can


you forgot orville ;) whos the whore in the the avatar above? those boobs are not bad for fakes
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: Euro-monster on October 08, 2006, 03:17:30 PM

you forgot orville ;) whos the whore in the the avatar above? those boobs are not bad for fakes

Stop calling my wife a whore..lol.... ;)
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 08, 2006, 03:29:00 PM
I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.



.........and the judges. If you told any one of these guys that they needed to get on poodle shit for a higher placing, they'd eat it!
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: muscularny on October 08, 2006, 03:33:28 PM
well I dont know much but im thinking what if he lays out a drug plan and diet plan but then they go nuts on junk food, using slin and not being careful of what you eat if real bad or playing around with t3 levels again without monitoring all the time is also a good way to fuck up a body rather quick

staying strict on a diet is easier said then done, its very easy to load a pin and give yourself a shot but its also easy to load a plate with cake and cookies and eat it

in addition when someone goes to chad usually they tried everything already took loads of orals and loads of shots and they feel a standstill they run to him, so the medical fuckups can be prior him very easily

just another way to look at things
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: legbreaker on October 08, 2006, 05:26:25 PM
What are chads credentials anyways? Great Expert Dieter

Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 08, 2006, 05:36:38 PM
Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.
I'm pretty sure Chad said he has competed some time a long ago, however he never showed pics to anyone, Prince said he didn't want to show them to him.
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: legbreaker on October 08, 2006, 05:53:45 PM
It's not necessarily Chad I was refering to, but the industry as a whole.
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 08, 2006, 06:04:38 PM
It's not necessarily Chad I was refering to, but the industry as a whole.
Yes but no one forces the athletes to use any guru. They must feel it's worth the expense or they wouldn't keep hiring them. I hear Chad takes 10% of winnings, plus some base fee I'm sure, so that's a good amount of money if it comes out of someone like Ronnie's Olympia paycheck. This non placing pro Heinz Sr said on another site that Hany Rambod charged 4K for a 16 week program.
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: legbreaker on October 08, 2006, 06:08:58 PM
Absolutely, Van!  Wow, 4 grand...incredible, but he gets it. 
Title: Re: HOW MANY GUYS HAS CHAD SCREWED UP ?
Post by: youandme on October 08, 2006, 07:10:05 PM
Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you.  Only game in the world that happens.  I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.
Thanks for the clear headed response. Your right.

Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Rampage on October 08, 2006, 07:20:41 PM
Reposted
A conspiracy theory or not?

Well lets see..im not sterringthe pot, but rather speculating.Remember back in `02 when GUNTER was advised by nichols ? I THINK, and im almost certain imnot mistaken , but aftert that awesome 5th place of GUnter, chad said that he would disccontinue workng with Gunter because `certain people` (im assuming the powers in control)  told him that IF he gets Gunter to the top, he`l be taken care of...and obviously that didnt happen.So chad cut ties right

Well seeing as though Chad has been approached by `certain people` previously , is there a possibilty he was contacted again  from these people , this time with the goal in mind of making RONNIE less of a threat>>   Could be.Obvious question would be, why would he trust those `certain people` again sinced theyv not followed through on their promise to take care of him (whichever way that is) Again, who knows? Maybe a concrete offer this time, maybe an approach from some other people

Any why would someone want to approach chad for this? Simple....a change in bodybuilding.A new POSTERCHILD and new excitement to the sport.Usher in a new era? The likes of Victor , melvin.

All this is speculation- not fact....just a conspiracy theory..it does make the wheel tuirn though doesnt it

It makes no sense to me how Ronnie continue to be off this far in his game.And wasnt it chad that said : `RONNIE WILL NEEEEVR EEEEEVR COME IN OFF`.So what gives?

Sorry brother chad , ths is just speculation
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: legbreaker on October 08, 2006, 08:26:18 PM
While I think that's an interesting suggestion, Rampage, I don't see it being true.  I think the only reason Ronnie was not his (HIS) best is because of his injured tricep and whatever is going on with his back and NOT condition.  Yes, he wasn't as detailed as HE normally is, but he was enormous and conditioned.  It was the messed up bodyparts that, in my opinion, kept him out of the top and prevented him from training ceratin bodyparts the way he needed to.  Anything can be true, however, so I don't discredit your theory. 
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: Rampage on October 08, 2006, 08:32:49 PM
While I think that's an interesting suggestion, Rampage, I don't see it being true.  I think the only reason Ronnie was not his (HIS) best is because of his injured tricep and whatever is going on with his back and NOT condition.  Yes, he wasn't as detailed as HE normally is, but he was enormous and conditioned.  It was the messed up bodyparts that, in my opinion, kept him out of the top and prevented him from training ceratin bodyparts the way he needed to.  Anything can be true, however, so I don't discredit your theory. 

I agree with you that its his bodyparts that are lacking , and not the conditioning.Every1 says its conditioning.But i feel if even he was 100% on , he cant compete with cutlers back right now

And Coleman definitely has something physically wrong.Because they is no other logical explanation for his back REGRESSING as it has.His lat spread is tiny now.His detail is gone.His tricep is gone.He`ll always lose Ab/thi to cutler...these are all physical defects as you can see, nothing to do with conditioning
Title: Re: Was it Chad Nicholls' fault?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 08, 2006, 09:24:15 PM
Really now , i know some of you have a list

i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well

and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him

besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?

Natural is the best way to go bar none.
Title: Re: Is it teh Chad's fault?
Post by: SUBTRACTION on October 08, 2006, 09:58:59 PM
.........and the judges. If you told any one of these guys that they needed to get on poodle shit for a higher placing, they'd eat it!

I blame teh judges too, but I mostly blame Chad!  >:(