Really now , i know some of you have a list
i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well
and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him
besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?
If you look at some of the pics of Kiung at 300, its just painful to look at. Total lard ass and it looks really bad for the heart.
As far as Flex goes, didn't he have some health issues himself making it impossible to continue to compete?
he worked for ronnie...so that makes up for just about every one else he screwed up
which is everyone but ronnie..lol
Any reasonable suggestion would work for Ronnie. That really doesn't say too much. Nutritionist...gimme a break, when in the world did these guys study nutrition? They gather their info off the net...most don't even compete. In any other sport they wouldn't even be considered for coaching, yet in BB they are used.
Did the guru drop the ball with the two big boys?Chad probably didn't put enough mercury in his special hotel room administered diuretic. :-X
But even Chad said he wanted Ronnie as close to 300lbs as possible. He just looked to big, like they tried to go too far. As far as Gunter.....I don't even know where to start.naaah man ronnie was not too big..he had no lats,his left leg looked all messed up and his infamous left triceps where not even there..his gut looked wider and he weighed in at 290lbs for the show..too soft and overall NOT BIG ENOUGH
naaah man ronnie was not too big..he had no lats,his left leg looked all messed up and his infamous left triceps where not even there..his gut looked wider and he weighed in at 290lbs for the show..too soft and overall NOT BIG ENOUGHyup!
ronnie= age and injury.jay made the choice of pro life, ronnie and the gang decided to sell thier souls( or kidneys) to the devil!
teh chad did well with melvin.
you put cutler with teh chad and he'd probably win 3 O's instead of 1.
Chad does everything for Ronnie.ronnies someones creation basically, hes just a yes sir man and does what hes told to do!
Jay gets a little help from Aceto, but mostly does the rest himself.
ronnie= age and injury.
teh chad did well with melvin.
you put cutler with teh chad and he'd probably win 3 O's instead of 1.
I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.
Were all bodybuilders and we all know our own bodies. Most of us managed to learn what works best for us through trial and error. Chad is no superhuman that can predict the future of someones physique. I don't believe working with somebody as genetically gifted as Melvin or Victor is half as challenging as working with Ronnie or Gunter. Melvin and Vic are like Ronnie from 2000. There main goal is to put on quality mass and come in shredded. But Ronnie and Gunter already have tons of mass and the possibility of coming in off is far greater. A slight bit of water or fat can devastate a physique that is not exactly pleasing to the eye. Anyways, I wouldn't blame chad, all he can do is try.
jay made the choice of pro life, ronnie and the gang decided to sell thier souls( or kidneys) to the devil!
Both Ronnie and Gunter seemed to be going for too much size and failed to look their best. Meanwhile, Victor and Melvin moved up and looked much improved, especially Melvin. Did the guru drop the ball with the two big boys?
Maybe....since there's two threads now started on the same subject
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Where is the other one?
3 of them were started a week ago and one of them a month ago.
This one seems more important.
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there....now's there 4 more bumped right to the top
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Knny187,
You a moderator?
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I thought the Ninja's screwed up Flex ;D
no....I'm a god
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Yeah...an avatar god so to speak... ::)
if there is such a thing
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Don Youngblood - Dead
Flex Wheeler - Kidney Transplant
Don Long - Kidney Transplant
Tom Prince- Kidney Dialysis
Nasser - Body will not respond
King - Shape ruined
Kovacks- Shape ruined
Ronnie - 8 Mr.O's, shape ruined
Victor and Melvin - get out while you can
you forgot orville ;) whos the whore in the the avatar above? those boobs are not bad for fakes
I blame him for everything that is wrong with bodybuilding today.
What are chads credentials anyways? Great Expert Dieter
Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you. Only game in the world that happens. I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.I'm pretty sure Chad said he has competed some time a long ago, however he never showed pics to anyone, Prince said he didn't want to show them to him.
It's not necessarily Chad I was refering to, but the industry as a whole.Yes but no one forces the athletes to use any guru. They must feel it's worth the expense or they wouldn't keep hiring them. I hear Chad takes 10% of winnings, plus some base fee I'm sure, so that's a good amount of money if it comes out of someone like Ronnie's Olympia paycheck. This non placing pro Heinz Sr said on another site that Hany Rambod charged 4K for a 16 week program.
Having no credentials is what gets you noticed as a "guru" in bodybuilding today...when you actually have successfully dieted and competed and won shows people don't want to use you. Only game in the world that happens. I guess jay Cutler didn't subscribe to this theory because Acteo has actually been on a stage.Thanks for the clear headed response. Your right.
While I think that's an interesting suggestion, Rampage, I don't see it being true. I think the only reason Ronnie was not his (HIS) best is because of his injured tricep and whatever is going on with his back and NOT condition. Yes, he wasn't as detailed as HE normally is, but he was enormous and conditioned. It was the messed up bodyparts that, in my opinion, kept him out of the top and prevented him from training ceratin bodyparts the way he needed to. Anything can be true, however, so I don't discredit your theory.
Really now , i know some of you have a list
i know shawn has said chaid screwed up flex, and i believe don long as well
and i cant believe kamali was willing to go up to 300lbs just for chad to work with him
besides ronnie how many top products has chad turned out ?
.........and the judges. If you told any one of these guys that they needed to get on poodle shit for a higher placing, they'd eat it!