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And this man was once a presidential frontrunner?
Buchanan Argues For Immigration Moratorium To Preserve White Dominance
In his new book, State of Emergency, Pat Buchanan argues for “an immediate moratorium on all immigration.” Why? To preserve the dominance of the white race in America. Buchanan explains on pg. 11:
America faces an existential crisis. If we do not get control of our borders, by 2050 Americans of European descent will be a minority in the nation their ancestors created and built. No nation has ever undergone so radical a demographic transformation and survived.
Indeed, Buchanan argues quite explicitly that only whites have the appropriate “genetic endowments” to keep America from collapsing. From pg. 164:
In 1994, Sam Francis, the syndicated columnist and editorial writer for the Washington Times…volunteered this thought:
“The civilization that we as whites created in Europe and America could not have developed apart from the genetic endowments of the creating people, nor is there any reason to believe that the civilization can be successfully transmitted by a different people.”
Had Francis said this of Chinese civilization and the Chinese people, it would have gone unnoted. But he was suggesting Western civilization was superior and that only Europeans could have created it. If Western peoples perish, as they are doing today, Francis was implying, we must expect our civilization to die with us. No one would deny that when the Carthaginians perished, Carthaginian civilization and culture perished. But by claiming the achievements of the West for Europeans, Francis had passed beyond the bounds of tolerance. He was summarily fired.
Buchanan goes on to praise those who, implicitly or explicitly, talk about the genetic superiority of the white race, including John Rocker of the Atlanta Braves, Bell Curve authors Richard Hernstein and Charles Murray, and Al Campanis of the Los Angeles Dodgers. (Campanis said that blacks “may not have the necessities to be, let’s say, a field manager, or, perhaps, a general manager.” He added that blacks were often poor swimmers “because they don’t have the buoyancy.”)
Buchanan calls Francis views on white racial superiority the “Great Taboo.” But refusing to acknowledge it, according to Buchanan, is “like not telling one’s doctor of a recurring pain that could kill you.”
Buchanan has been showered with attention from cable and network television to spread his book’s message.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/22/buchanan-white-dominance/
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and what are your thoughts on the matter, BB? i'm inclined to agree w some of it.
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I hate to admit, I like Pat and Bay too. Not on everything, but on a lot. Listen to Bay on the Colbert Report:
http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=70927
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Bush administration calling these people "Undocumented Immigrants", they broke the laws we set, making them criminals that should be deported on the spot.
But remember good Christians better keep supporting him, he's against gay marriage and abortion.
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Bush administration calling these people "Undocumented Immigrants", they broke the laws we set, making them criminals that should be deported on the spot.
But remember good Christians better keep supporting him, he's against gay marriage and abortion.
Bush is a confused bastard... First he wants people to be vigilant and watch and report even join Operation Tips to spy on people... Then he refers to the minute men as vigilantes and is against it even though all they were doing was reporting sightings of boarder crossings to the boarder patrol. ::)
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Bush administration calling these people "Undocumented Immigrants", they broke the laws we set, making them criminals that should be deported on the spot.
*Technically* they're criminals. but it's not like they allowed 3000 people to die one Tuesday morning. Those are the REAL criminals.
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*Technically* they're criminals. but it's not like they allowed 3000 people to die one Tuesday morning. Those are the REAL criminals.
i used to feel sorry for the 9/11 victims and their families. now, thanks to your going on like a broken record, I hope I never hear about them again. i hope you're satisfied.
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Pat seems to be one of the more sensible conservatives out there but his views on this are dogshit. What's scary is that I was gonna buy his book when I was at wal-mart last weekend :o
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Buchanan goes on to praise those who, implicitly or explicitly, talk about the genetic superiority of the white race, including John Rocker of the Atlanta Braves, Bell Curve authors Richard Hernstein and Charles Murray, and Al Campanis of the Los Angeles Dodgers. (Campanis said that blacks “may not have the necessities to be, let’s say, a field manager, or, perhaps, a general manager.” He added that blacks were often poor swimmers “because they don’t have the buoyancy.”)
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so that part's dogshit, and the genetic basis might not be defensible . . . what other issues do you have w Francis's claims, Haider Ali?
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i used to feel sorry for the 9/11 victims and their families. now, thanks to your going on like a broken record, I hope I never hear about them again. i hope you're satisfied.
::) Jesus you're a supreme fucktard.... Nobody..... Absolutely nobody forced your stupid ass to click on all those threads and debate 240... This is a BULLSHIT DIRTBAG Thing to say... You Suck....
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No nation has ever undergone so radical a demographic transformation and survived.
Evidently he's never heard of Canada. :-\
Not only survived, but prospering & thriving quite peacefully because of it.
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Do you know who Haider Ali is? ;D
If I had the read the book I could've probably told u more about the things I disagree with, but this genetic superiority shit isn't gonna roll with me, and it is indeed very disturbing. HOWEVER, I would have to read the book myself to really make sure that the wrong message isn't being conveyed in this article.
Now on the immigration issue, I saw him debate someone on MSNBC(I think) abt this and he wasn't very convincing at all. But I was still interested to know mroe about his views.. I mean I cant help but be curious as to what his opinion is on immmigrants such as myself(though I think the book probably deals with the influx of mexicans more than anything else) ;)
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Do you know who Haider Ali is? ;D
If I had the read the book I could've probably told u more about the things I disagree with, but this genetic superiority shit isn't gonna roll with me, and it is indeed very disturbing. HOWEVER, I would have to read the book myself to really make sure that the wrong message isn't being conveyed in this article.
Now on the immigration issue, I saw him debate someone on MSNBC(I think) abt this and he wasn't very convincing at all. But I was still interested to know mroe about his views.. I mean I cant help but be curious as to what his opinion is on immmigrants such as myself(though I think the book probably deals with the influx of mexicans more than anything else) ;)
genetic differences or not . . . Western European civilization developed along lines that allowed the US to come into being . . . until I see a better civilization out there, I'm going to hope that it can keep going. if immigrants can integrate themselves into the civilization . . . great! But I don't know at what point immigrants start to affect a civilization more than they are themselves affected. then things might be irrevocably and irretrievably changed.
BTW, you should read the article I posted in the Clash of Civilizations thread below.
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Ok, I'll be on it..
..but I'm curious. Do u know who haider ali is? Its not uncommon to be called that in pakistan/india if your name is haider.
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Ok, I'll be on it..
..but I'm curious. Do u know who haider ali is? Its not uncommon to be called that in pakistan/india if your name is haider.
yes, i know who haider ali is, and I have even visited the Nizam's palace in Hyderabad.
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That's effin sweet dude! You're talking about the great Haider Ali here 8)
I thought you might have been pokin fun at me by calling me Haider Ali the popstar, as many do in Pakistan ;D Quite silly of me, but I jsut had to make sure.
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That's effin sweet dude! You're talking about the great Haider Ali here 8)
I thought you might have been pokin fun at me by calling me Haider Ali the popstar, as many do in Pakistan ;D Quite silly of me, but I jsut had to make sure.
I don't know any Pakistani pop stars, but I know the Mongols, their descendants, and their allies fairly well. ;)
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i used to feel sorry for the 9/11 victims and their families. now, thanks to your going on like a broken record, I hope I never hear about them again. i hope you're satisfied.
Woah... you're kidding, right? I've spent thousands of hours learning more about the events of the day in order to be able to share some knowledge with those who haven't heard. Only when the majority of Americans want to know more will there be new investigations. We're at 36%... if I've converted 1 person with my posts here, I am happy. honestly, i've gotten about 10 PMs from people who have said they are still on the fense but appreciate the info, and probably 20 from people who said they never heard of such a thing, but thanks to my obnoxious rants about it, watched some videos and read about the inconsistencies. These people watnt more info about 911 Truth movement. how they can learn more. how they can help. I feel completely energized by this.
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I've spent thousands of hours learning more about the events of the day in order to be able to share some knowledge with those who haven't heard.
I'm done with the other issue . . . but this claim caught my eye. Math isn't your strong suit, is it?
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and what are your thoughts on the matter, BB? i'm inclined to agree w some of it.
My thoughts? I always thought Buchanan came out on the shallow end of the IQ gene pool in his family. Bay is much smarter than he is. This just confirms my earlier opinion. He's an idiot.
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Buchanan wants a moratorium.
Hell, why stop there?
Why not have every single person who isn't a native American, move back to the country of their origin?
YIP
Zack
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Buchanan wants a moratorium.
Hell, why stop there?
Why not have every single person who isn't a native American, move back to the country of their origin?
YIP
Zack
I'm Ok with that... but.... Some people are going to have to get cut into several sections ;D
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I'm Ok with that... but.... Some people are going to have to get cut into several sections ;D
lol. Right! That's one of the reasons I think the race issues/discussion from all sides are pretty meaningless. There are millions of multi-racial people all over the country. My daughter just told me yesterday that they have a new "black" boy in their school. No one believed him, because he didn't "look black." So the kid actually called his mother and put her on speaker phone to confirm his blackness. I thought it was funny. He apparently looks Hawaiian.
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illegal immigration effects almost every issue facing america...national security, health care, education, our very culture, loyalty to america.
our politicians do nothing
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lol. Right! That's one of the reasons I think the race issues/discussion from all sides are pretty meaningless. There are millions of multi-racial people all over the country. My daughter just told me yesterday that they have a new "black" boy in their school. No one believed him, because he didn't "look black." So the kid actually called his mother and put her on speaker phone to confirm his blackness. I thought it was funny. He apparently looks Hawaiian.
There were these twin brothers I knew. One was black, one was white other than that they looked almost the same. One was a little bigger but the faces were really close other than the color. I felt sorry for them just because they were asked about it more than anything.
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His stance on illegal immigration is the right one. Soon we'll all have to learn Spanish! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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Everyone should learn to speak Spanish anyway. Easy language to learn.
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besides, i think he's referring to all immigration . . . not just illegal?
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His stance on illegal immigration is the right one. Soon we'll all have to learn Spanish! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
CJ, Do you realize that for the most part it's only North Americans who are uni-lingual, while the rest of the world is conversant in multiple languages. Do you realize what a tremendous DISadvantage this puts us at?
While my own language skills are somewhat limited, I can assure you having a 2nd language truly opens up worlds to you.
Most of my European friends speak 4 or 5 languages.
One of my cousins spoke 10 languages FLUENTLY by the time he was 17.
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Well almost everyone knows English so I don't see it as much of a disadvantage. Kids from every (or almost every) country in Europe start English in elementry school. I am learning Español though. 8)
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In something like 1986 U.S. News and World Report had an article where this guy who is an expert on demographics stated the USA should liberally open up immigration to both eastern and western Europeans. This guy saw this coming 20 years ago.
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'While my own language skills are somewhat limited, I can assure you having a 2nd language truly opens up worlds to you.'
Then maybe all the puerto ricans who are ruining the area I live in should learn ENGLISH !
Had to go to the emergency room not long ago....It was me and my blue cross and blue shield card and 86 puerto ricans with all 400 of their children running wildly in the waiting area for free medial care which I GOTTA PAY FOR !!!
My area has a history in textiles dating back to the 40's and 50's
Back then many immigrated here from everywhere...italy,canada,poland,etc
There was nothing written in spanish and no free rides....you either learned the language and found a job or tough shit....get the f*#%$^ out !
As far as I'm concerned, you work and pay taxes or beat it ....I'm sick of carrying the load for lazy f@#$% who manipulate the system.
*meltdown
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Great, I just found someone I can support in the next presidential election. 8)
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The reason people in Europe usually speak more than one language is because off its relatively small size when compared to how many languages are spoken. If every state in the US had a diffrent language Im sure more americans would be able to speak more than one.
Anyway were Americans we dont care what the rest of the worlds doing anyways. Its not like were watching eurpoean movies, listening to Asian music and buying middle eastern clothes. The rest of the world wants to be like us........so learn our language.