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Title: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 11:56:13 AM
I notice nothing from using it.

I have used monohydrate in the past, and I have used "kreakylyn buffered creatine" for 2 weeks and no weight gain, nothing, ever.

I think the results people get from it is just placebo effect, probably because they train more and/or eat more.

Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 06, 2006, 11:57:51 AM
up the dosage
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 11:59:18 AM
up the dosage

I'm taking 4 caps of this kreakylyn bullshit a day.  Says to take 2-3.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 12:01:20 PM
I now use the creatine ethyl ester with that NO arginine bullshit.
Anyway it's garbage. i could have know it haha.
Last special supplement i will take.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 12:03:09 PM
There's plenty of glutamine in protein powder by the way.  It's foolish to buy that separately.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2006, 12:03:41 PM
I notice nothing from using it.

I have used monohydrate in the past, and I have used "kreakylyn buffered creatine" for 2 weeks and no weight gain, nothing, ever.

I think the results people get from it is just placebo effect, probably because they train more and/or eat more.



Aside from a good multivit/min each day and a decent protein supp, most everything else is garbage and any results are most definitely from a placebo effect.   The only other chemicals that work are illegal bb drugs.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 12:04:58 PM
Exactly, multi vitamines are not even neccesary.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Princess L on September 06, 2006, 12:05:26 PM
I notice nothing from using it.


Some people are non-responders.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 12:06:04 PM
Yes I figured I would try this new creatine, because everyone on forums has been making claims that it works in making gains, and it was just $11.  It must be placebo effect. They are just eating/training more.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 12:06:43 PM
Some people are non-responders.

That is ridiculous.  How can that be? are there 2 different species of people?
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 12:07:06 PM
Some people are non-responders.

Just like i didn't respond to dbol ;D
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: YoungBlood on September 06, 2006, 12:07:39 PM
You drinking more water than usual? That's the idea behind creatine, that it pulls more water into the muscle. If your not drinking more water, or even less water, you won't have any water to bring into the muscles, and that's one reason you won't be gaining any weight.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: doison on September 06, 2006, 12:08:19 PM
protein doesn't work either.  


Nothing works.  
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: buffbodz on September 06, 2006, 12:09:21 PM
I notice nothing from using it.

I have used monohydrate in the past, and I have used "kreakylyn buffered creatine" for 2 weeks and no weight gain, nothing, ever.

I think the results people get from it is just placebo effect, probably because they train more and/or eat more.



Some people are non responders.  Creatine has been studied for over 15 years, probably the most studdied supplement out their.   Allot of people make good gains with creatine, some nothing.  It has science to back up the theory behind it, but too many people are expecting steroid like gains when in truth 5-10 lbs. is more like it.  But some do respond well with it.  And you must drink at least a gallon of water a day.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
Why do some not respond?  What is the science/logic behind that?
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2006, 12:10:38 PM
All of it is a bunch of hogwash.

The protein intake they want you to have.
The post workout shake they want you to take.
The Glutamine you are supposed to choke down.
The extra BCAA`s you have to get.



Throw it all away and do not buy it ever again.  Throw the muscle magazines away. Forget about what the drug users do.  Don`t support anything related to the industry.  Its all bullshit.

Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: IFBBwannaB on September 06, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
I notice nothing from using it.

I have used monohydrate in the past, and I have used "kreakylyn buffered creatine" for 2 weeks and no weight gain, nothing, ever.

I think the results people get from it is just placebo effect, probably because they train more and/or eat more.



Your brain dont work,you dont see anyone post about that.
Attention whore for the win.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2006, 12:12:55 PM
Just like i didn't respond to dbol ;D

Exactly Mars, every person on the planet will respond to bb drugs, but supplements don't have the same effect?   Some respond and some don't......nope, bullshit......supplement s are crap.   They should take M&M, Skittles and Reese's Pieces and paint em white, bottle em and print Muscle Placebo on the side.......some folks will add quality mass and some won't.....just depends how hard you're training, how hard you're dieting and what other illegal bb chemicals you're taking.   If you're takin no bb drugs then you're at the mercy of your genes which for the vast majority of us are average at best.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 12:13:06 PM
It's hilarious sometimes when you see the lists of supplements people are using, mostly expensives brands too haha.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 12:15:05 PM
It's hilarious sometimes when you see the lists of supplements people are using, mostly expensives brands too haha.

yes and you will notice these guys are the tinyest of tits.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: natural al on September 06, 2006, 12:16:31 PM
I've never had a problem with creatine.  I took some that I had left over after my daughter was born, I wasn't even working out and I gained 7lbs, I just took it to see what would happen, didn't eat anymore food or drink anymore.  It was the mega creatine fuel stack by twinlab with glutamine, creatine and taurine.........haven't taken it since....
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2006, 12:17:06 PM
It's hilarious sometimes when you see the lists of supplements people are using, mostly expensives brands too haha.

Yep, most folks should abandon all their great supplements and just train naturally....if they add a lot of quality weight in a short period of time and wanna bb then get some drugs and see how far your genes will take you.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: daddy8ball on September 06, 2006, 12:19:11 PM
You might want to factor in the reputation of the manufacturer whose creatine you are using.

I remember reading something where they took several different brands of creatine and tested them for quality/content.

Some were much lower than others.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 12:19:59 PM
Reminds me of a thread on Mayhem on time where they had to post pictures of their supplements.
haha some of these twats had a shitload of muscletech supps in the kitchen haha.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2006, 12:20:12 PM
Exactly Mars, every person on the planet will respond to bb drugs, but supplements don't have the same effect?   Some respond and some don't......nope, bullshit......supplement s are crap.   They should take M&M, Skittles and Reese's Pieces and paint em white, bottle em and print Muscle Placebo on the side.......some folks will add quality mass and some won't.....just depends how hard you're training, how hard you're dieting and what other illegal bb chemicals you're taking.   If you're takin no bb drugs then you're at the mercy of your genes which for the vast majority of us are average at best.

Reeses and M and M`s are more effective supplements as they can be used for a meal.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Princess L on September 06, 2006, 12:35:24 PM
That is ridiculous.  How can that be? are there 2 different species of people?

Why do some not respond?  What is the science/logic behind that?

Some people get cancer.  Others don't.
Some respond to chemo, others don't.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Minihulk on September 06, 2006, 05:20:18 PM


  "Creatinine" is naturally occuring in your body.....creatine is best used in a post workout shake because it helps your body recover by replacing the creatinine that was used during your hardcore workout...easier said recuporation
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Princess L on September 06, 2006, 05:51:38 PM

  "Creatinine" is naturally occuring in your body.....creatine is best used in a post workout shake because it helps your body recover by replacing the creatinine that was used during your hardcore workout...easier said recuporation

Creatinine levels relate to muscle mass and to kidney function.  It's not something you're looking to "replace".
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Minihulk on September 06, 2006, 06:28:13 PM


  So after working out your creatinine levels arent low at all ???
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: gibberj2 on September 06, 2006, 07:14:19 PM
so adonis what's your story? do you advocate any sort of diet? any sort of method? from what you've put on here lately about diet it seems like the rule is to eat anything at all.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: gibberj2 on September 06, 2006, 07:15:34 PM
as what's the story with you talking about ice cream and krispy cream now? you made a thread about frank zane's contest diet which was all protein with one beer. totally different from what you are saying you do now.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Princess L on September 06, 2006, 08:43:27 PM

  So after working out your creatinine levels arent low at all ???

This explains it better than I could. http://www.medicinenet.com/creatinine_blood_test/article.htm
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: Overload on September 07, 2006, 12:47:51 PM
as what's the story with you talking about ice cream and krispy cream now? you made a thread about frank zane's contest diet which was all protein with one beer. totally different from what you are saying you do now.

That's why i'm skeptical of anything he posts...it wasn't long ago he was claiming that Zane was "all drugs" but now he's a legend. he changes his mind every month or so and ONLY his NEW theory is right. most of his theories contradict each other. he knows his shit for the most part but i think he enjoys playing Mr. Knowitall too much. Him and his girlfriend also type "identical" most of the time, they even use pro nouns and other verbage in a perfectly identical fassion.

Creatine is the only supplement that ever worked for me when i was natural, even if it was a so called placebo effect it was worth every penny. i have a friend who just started taking creatine mono as i instructed him, his diet and training are the same. he has gained 9 pounds in 4 weeks and told me he feels more energy during his workouts. he's a lean hardgainer and says the product is worth every cent.

 8)
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: swilkins1984 on September 07, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
I notice nothing from using it.

I have used monohydrate in the past, and I have used "kreakylyn buffered creatine" for 2 weeks and no weight gain, nothing, ever.

I think the results people get from it is just placebo effect, probably because they train more and/or eat more.



Some people are simply not monohydrate responders or maybe you haven't cycled creatine use to keep it from losing its effects.  I get great results from it but I have a friend who prefers NO type of supplements. Maybe even creatine ester? Use whatever works for you and good luck.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: gibberj2 on September 07, 2006, 04:17:36 PM
Do you guys realize that almost any supplement is more expensive than a gym membership. A lot of people are spending 3 or 4 times of their gym membership taking supplements.
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: benchmstr on September 07, 2006, 04:29:17 PM
That is ridiculous.  How can that be? are there 2 different species of people?
how hard is that to understand , i am allergic to eggs that doesn't mean everyone on the planet is allergic to eggs are they or am i and everyone else with food allergies a diffrent species. ::)
Title: Re: Creatine doesn't work
Post by: buffbodz on September 13, 2006, 10:02:43 AM
Why do some not respond?  What is the science/logic behind that?

If their is any, I don't know it.  Some people just respond like crazy using creatine.  Those lucky bastards.  I get stronger, but not much difference in size.  I've asked the people who sell it and no one seems to know why some are responders and some aren't.  Their are even non responders from real gear.  That must suck, but it's true.  I think it has something to the Ph levels in your stomach.  If your to acidity, most of the creatine gets destroyed before it has a chance to enter the blood system.  That's the theory behind Kre Alakyne anyway.