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When will the scum bag media begin to apologise for trying destroy her good name?Think we will see little fags like Jay Marrioti say "sorry I was wrong" I doubt it.
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you sound like a very angry person.
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When will the scum bag media begin to apologise for trying destroy her good name?Think we will see little fags like Jay Marrioti say "sorry I was wrong" I doubt it.
the kid she had with tim montgomery is going to be an incredible athlete. talk about genetics
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the kid she had with tim montgomery is going to be an incredible athlete. talk about genetics
Good point.
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When will the scum bag media begin to apologise for trying destroy her good name?Think we will see little fags like Jay Marrioti say "sorry I was wrong" I doubt it.
During the Balco trial, several people witnessed how Marion Jones injected EPO.
YIP
Zack
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the kid she had with tim montgomery is going to be an incredible athlete. talk about genetics
Not true.
The Genotype determines the Phenotype.
The Phenotype does not determine the Genotype.
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Not true.
The Genotype determines the Phenotype.
The Phenotype does not determine the Genotype.
oh so you think these two world class sprinters (sprinting is probably the sport that relies most heavilly on genetics) are just genetically average? They are both probably exceptional and would beat the pants off most with no training at all. THAT is why they are likely to have an exceptional child even if there is some regression towards the population mean.
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Not true.
The Genotype determines the Phenotype.
The Phenotype does not determine the Genotype.
Adonis, can you explain that? Thanks.
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So she doesn't have the hairline of a 45 year old insurance salesman & the tooth gaps of Paul Dillet? OK good.
I have no problem with the drugs... it's just the testing/failing/not failing nonsense.
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oh so you think these two world class sprinters (sprinting is probably the sport that relies most heavilly on genetics) are just genetically average? They are both probably exceptional and would beat the pants off most with no training at all. THAT is why they are likely to have an exceptional child even if there is some regression towards the population mean.
I thought Montgomery did discus or shotput?
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I thought Montgomery did discus or shotput?
Are you stuck in 1996?
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Yea and O.J. was cleared as well.. can't believe everything you read in this corrupt world.
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When will the scum bag media begin to apologise for trying destroy her good name?Think we will see little fags like Jay Marrioti say "sorry I was wrong" I doubt it.
Hi Marion
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Adonis, can you explain that? Thanks.
PHENOTYPE AND GENOTYPE
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Definitions: phenotype is the constellation of observable traits; genotype is the genetic endowment of the individual. Phenotype = genotype + development (in a given environment). To consider these in the context of evolutionary biology, we want to know how these two are related. In a narrow "genetic" sense, the genotype defines the phenotype. But how, in and evolutionary sense, does the phenotype "determine" the genotype? Selection acts on phenotypes because differential reproduction and survivorship depend on phenotype. If the phenotype affecting reproduction or survivorship is genetically based, then selection can winnow out genotypes indirectly by winnowing out phenotypes.
How do we get from genotype to phenotype? Central dogma: DNA via transcription to RNA via translation to protein; proteins can act to alter the patterns and timing of gene expression which can lead to cytodifferentiation where cells take on different states; cell communication can lead to pattern formation and morphogenesis and eventually we have an adult!
Genotype is also used to refer to the pair of alleles present at a single locus. With alleles 'A' and 'a' there are three possible genotypes AA, Aa and aa. With three alleles 1, 2, 3 there are six possible genotypes: 11, 12, 13, 22, 23, 33. First we must appreciate that genes do not act in isolation. The genome in which a genotype is found can affect the expression of that genotype, and the environment can affect the phenotype.
Not all pairs of alleles will have the same phenotype: dominance when AA = Aa in phenotype, A is dominant, a is recessive. An allele can be dominant over one allele but recessive to another allele. Model of dominance from enzyme activity: no copies produce no phenotype, one copy produces x amount of product and two copies produces 2x then the alleles are additive and there is no dominance (intermediate inheritance). If one copy of the allele produces as much product (or has as high a rate of flux) as a homozygote then there is dominance. There are cases where the heterozygote is greater in phenotypic value than either homozygote: called overdominance
Single genes do not always work as simply as indicated by a dominance and recessive relationship. Other genes can affect the phenotypic expression of a given gene. One example is epistasis ("standing on") where one locus can mask the expression of another. Classic example is a synthetic pathway of a pigment. Mutations at loci controlling the early steps in the pathway (gene 1) can be epistatic on the expression of genes later in the pathway (gene 3) by failing to produce pigment precursors (e.g. albinos) A-> gene 1 -> B -> gene 2 -> C gene 3 -> Pigment
Genes can also be pleitropic when they affect more than one trait. The single base pair mutation that lead to sickle cell anemia is a classic example. The altered hemoglobin sequence is not the only effect: lower oxygen affinity=anemia; clogged capillaries=circulatory problems; in heterozygote state=malarial resistance. Mutations in cartilage are another example since cartilage makes up many different structures the effects of the mutation are evident in many different phenotypic characters.
Polygenic inheritance can be explained by additive effects of many loci: if each "capital" allele contributes one increment to the phenotype. With one locus and additive effects we have three phenotypic classes: AA, Aa and aa. With two loci and two alleles in a strictly additive model (i.e., no epistasis or other modifying effects) we can have five phenotypic classes aabb<Aabb=aaBb<AaBb=AAbb=aaBB<AABb=AaBB<AABB and the intermediate phenotypic values can be produced in more ways, so should be more frequent. The more loci affecting the trait, the greater number of phenotypic classes.
PATTERNS OF VARIATION
Evolution by Natural Selection rests on the following principles:
1. there is variation in natural populations
2. the variation is heritable; has a genetic basis
3. more offspring are produced than will survive each generation: struggle for existence
4. if heritable variation affects survival/reproduction, there will be differential reproduction=selection
Without genetic variation there will be no evolution. Thus, characterizing the genetic variation in natural populations is fundamental to the study of evolution. (see The Genetic Basis of Evolutionary Change by Lewontin , 1974)
What kinds of variation are there? Discrete polymorphisms (e.g., Biston betularia) easily noticed, but not frequent or representative of the variation in natural populations (eye color in humans also quasi discrete). Continuously varying traits can be described by the mean x = (Xi)/n and variance V = 1/nS(Xi-x)2. Examples: the carrots in the Burpee Catologue; human height. Continuously varying traits will have both a genetic and environmental components.
How much genetic variation is there? Historical debate: Classical school held that there was very little genetic variation, most individuals were homozygous for a "wild-type" allele. Rare heterozygous loci due to recurrent mutation; natural selection purges populations of their "load" of mutations. Balance school held that many loci will be heterozygous in natural populations and heterozygotes maintained by "balancing selection" (heterozygote advantage). Selection thus plays a role in maintaining variation.
How do we measure variation? To show that there is a genetic basis to a continuously varying character one can study 1) resemblance among relatives: look at the offspring of individuals from parents in different parts of the distribution; can estimate heritability (more later). 2) artificial selection: pigeons and dogs show that there is variation present; does not tell how much variation
Protein electrophoresis: phenotype = gene product of specific locus (loci). Took off in mid 60's (Lewontin and Hubby, 1966; Harris, 1966); still used. Grind up organism in buffer, apply homogenate to gel (starch, acrylamide), apply electric field, proteins migrate in gel according to charge, stain gel with histochemical stain for enzyme activity, bands reveal variation. Do this for many loci and can estimate: proportion of loci polymorphic per population (10-60%, depending on organism); proportion of loci heterozygous per individual (3-20% depending on organism). The technique provides a minimum estimate because different amino acid sequences may migrate at the same rate in the gel.
DNA variation. Measure the genetic material directly; sequencing is the most precise but the most laborious; restriction enzyme analysis faster but has less information. These techniques have revealed that there is even more genetic variation that what was revealed by protein electrophoresis. Hence the debate between the Classical and Balance schools of genetic variation has evolved into a debate about the forces maintaining genetic variation: the Neutralist-Selectionist controversy (or debate). Some loci are neutral; others under selection (more in lecture on Molecular Evolution). The debate is not over.
How is variation apportioned within and among populations? Hierarchy in patterns of variation: are populations either melanistic or normal; or do populations contain some of both; if so what are the frequencies in different populations? Is the variation within or among populations?
Spatial Patterns of Variation
Geographical isolates: discontinuous or disjunct distribution. Is there differentiation?Are there continuous distributions, clinal variation, abrupt discontinuities ("step" cline).
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This may make it a bit easier.
If a genotype results in a good phenotype in one environment, the same genotype will not necessarily result in a good phenotype in another environment. For instance, animals being adapted to intensive production systems in Denmark will not always be as well adapted in tropical conditions. Therefore it is more appropriate to describe the phenotype as a function of the genotype and the environment. Thus the expression also includes the interaction. The interaction is important in extreme conditions, but most of the time the additive model is sufficient to study a common population.
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Oh, Great. and the IFBB is 100% natural...hahahah
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When was this ever made public?
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When was this ever made public?
yesterday I think
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yesterday I came out of the closet
congratulations, your ass must hurt alot
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Not true.
The Genotype determines the Phenotype.
The Phenotype does not determine the Genotype.
So all those horse trainers have been wasting their money with cross breeding champion race horses.
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congratulations, your ass must hurt alot
Ok big guy
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Billy is a fat juiced up powerlifter. He thinks being a powerlifter excuses him for being a lardass and ugly as sin.
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Ok big guy
hahaha morphing pics is fun isnt srg. Deez nuts hahah
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hahaha morphing pics is fun isnt srg. Deez nuts hahah
Those are your real pics.
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Those are your real pics.
Where are yours ???
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Where are yours ???
didnt you see the pic with all 45 army guys standing in a group, all wearing camaflouge ?? he was one of them ... hahahha
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Hey GayJoanna,
Nice gyno. Keep up the good work, Slim!
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So all those horse trainers have been wasting their money with cross breeding champion race horses.
That is selective Breeding.
2 random athletes having a kid isn`t going to produce anything as favorable alleles have not been targeted and weeded out.
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Hey GayJoanna,
Nice gyno. Keep up the good work, Slim!
Joey tito does that make you hard or someting ?? why dont you go back to gettin boners from pics of BB doing rear dbl back bicep poses and imagining that they put a wig on ... hahahahah
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Billy is a fat juiced up powerlifter. He thinks being a powerlifter excuses him for being a lardass and ugly as sin.
have you seen his bodybuilding competition pics?
i guess not. he's great at power lifting and bodybuilding.
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That is selective Breeding.
2 random athletes having a kid isn`t going to produce anything as favorable alleles have not been targeted and weeded out.
So breeding those two track stars is not selective breeding. If I wanted to be a track star I certainly might have selected those two as my parents
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Joey tito does that make you hard or someting ?? why dont you go back to gettin boners from pics of BB doing rear dbl back bicep poses and imagining that they put a wig on ... hahahahah
Just like Hulkster does when he is looking at Ronnie's backside ;D
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That is selective Breeding.
2 random athletes having a kid isn`t going to produce anything as favorable alleles have not been targeted and weeded out.
People have never been selectively bred long enough to weed out less desirable traits.
Plus the Gene Pool is too varying so the combinations would be too different to produce an expected result.
Slavery was not selective either as again The Gene Pool was Too Large to do anything and it only accounted for one-two generations of organisms. Not enough to do promote any kind of favorable trait.
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have you seen his bodybuilding competition pics?
i guess not. he's great at power lifting and bodybuilding.
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Yeah, I know, I competed against him in a meet once (and beat him, need I say more). He was way fat back then. A real rolly polly. And a closet homo too.
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Yeah, I know, I competed against him in a meet once (and beat him, need I say more). He was way fat back then. A real rolly polly. And a closet homo too.
Sure you did...
if you did then you obviously are just as fat as him in order to be in his weight class...funny.
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Yeah, I know, I competed against him in a meet once (and beat him, need I say more). He was way fat back then. A real rolly polly. And a closet homo too.
I guess you would know since you guys are in the same closet hahahahah
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Sure you did...
if you did then you obviously are just as fat as him in order to be in his weight class...funny.
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I did use to be a fatass back then (the meet was 11 years ago). Now I've dieted down to 113 lbs on a 6'2" frame.
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I did use to be a fatass back then (the meet was 11 years ago). Now I've dieted down to 113 lbs on a 6'2" frame.
What a BEAST!!!!
i bet you bench the 80's for reps!!!!!
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I did use to be a fatass back then (the meet was 11 years ago). Now I've dieted down to 113 lbs on a 6'2" frame.
hahahahaha you have a womans body, i guess that matches you woman like attitudes to gettin banged out by another man hahahah
113 lb , 6'2 .... your a fuggin beastimal!!
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What a BEAST!!!!
i bet you bench the 80's for reps!!!!!
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Just another typical BBer exaggerating poundage, it's probably more like the bar for reps and 80 max.
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What a BEAST!!!!
i bet you bench the 80's for reps!!!!!
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Actually I never quite got up to 80 lbs. My max BP in a meet was 78 lbs. And that was with a triple ply shirt
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hahahahaha you have a womans body, i guess that matches you woman like attitudes to gettin banged out by another man hahahah
113 lb , 6'2 .... your a fuggin beastimal!!
Well I'm kind of exaggerating to make myself look bigger than I really am. 113 is what I hope to be after a month more of bulking. Right now I'm tipping the scales at 98 lbs. With another cycle of test I should be able to bench my own body weight.
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So all those horse trainers have been wasting their money with cross breeding champion race horses.
Exactly. - T.A is just talking out of his ass as usual. I'd bet any amount of money that the child of two elite athletes has a much better chance of being great at a chosen sport than the average kid.
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Ha,ha,Joey Tito.You beat me in a meet?Really?Geeze,Ive never been beaten in a powermeet except at the nationals[2nd 6 times] and once at the CT states when a drugged up lifter went against me when I was clean..So its doubtfull you could ever beat me[except my meat]in anything.However,I will be competing in Maine on Dec.2nd.This will be my first meet since blowing off my patella tendon.Come up and compete.Then I will be doing the NPC New Englands bodybuilding next May.Your welcome to come there and get your ass kicked in that sport as well.Im also doing a push pull meet on the second weekend in New York at Iron Asylum gym and your welcome to come there and get smoked as well.In that meet I will be pulling without a belt or suit and benching RAW just to show that I can lift in or out of gear.Im easy to find.Let me know.
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Exactly. - T.A is just talking out of his ass as usual. I'd bet any amount of money that the child of two elite athletes has a much better chance of being great at a chosen sport than the average kid.
You are an idiot.
A great Pole Vaulter mating with a An Olymlpic Skater isnt going to get you a Professional Soccer Player.
Furthermore go back and read my posts about breeding and how long it takes to weed out alleles and the fact that you have to have a monitored Gene Pool.
You clearly have no backround in basic Biology.
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You are an idiot.
A great Pole Vaulter mating with a An Olymlpic Skater isnt going to get you a Professional Soccer Player.
Furthermore go back and read my posts about breeding and how long it takes to weed out alleles and the fact that you have to have a monitored Gene Pool.
You clearly have no backround in basic Biology.
How about the Mannings in football. Do you think the kids get any of their athletic ability from Dad?
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How about the Mannings in football. Do you think the kids get any of their athletic ability from Dad?
No. Just the training and tactics.
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You are an idiot.
A great Pole Vaulter mating with a An Olymlpic Skater isnt going to get you a Professional Soccer Player.
Furthermore go back and read my posts about breeding and how long it takes to weed out alleles and the fact that you have to have a monitored Gene Pool.
You clearly have no backround in basic Biology.
Quite obviously by your above statement, neither do you. If you could tone it down a bit I think that would help. At the very least talk about things you have been educated in and not something you "googled".
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for once TA is right!
Michael Jordan's parents are average at best yet they produced one of the greatest basketball players ever.
Shaq, Lance Armstrong...you could go on and with this point.
I am sure that Ronnie's parents are not as physically gifted as he is. I am sure that their physical potential is greatly exceeded by his. Look at Alexxx, I am sure his parents are hetero....didn't help him any
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It's a rare occasion, but I have to say: I agree with TA.
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You are an idiot.
A great Pole Vaulter mating with a An Olymlpic Skater isnt going to get you a Professional Soccer Player.
Furthermore go back and read my posts about breeding and how long it takes to weed out alleles and the fact that you have to have a monitored Gene Pool.
You clearly have no backround in basic Biology.
Meh. You're wasting your time here TA. You should be lecturing the Royal Families of the world and how they are going about things all wrong. ;)
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Meh. You're wasting your time here TA. You should be lecturing the Royal Families of the world and how they are going about things all wrong. ;)
I am still in school to be the worlds greatest Scientist.
One day my friends. One day.
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You are an idiot.
A great Pole Vaulter mating with a An Olymlpic Skater isnt going to get you a Professional Soccer Player.
Furthermore go back and read my posts about breeding and how long it takes to weed out alleles and the fact that you have to have a monitored Gene Pool.
You clearly have no backround in basic Biology.
Ok...you're a scientist now. Here is a better one: We know it takes multiple genes to determine eye color....for example. Let us throw that out the window. BB or Bb is for dominate bber aka Ronnie Coleman, and bb is for recessive bber. You've seen this in General Genetics. I'd give you bb. End Story.
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Bullshit dude. Black people in America are a direct product of selective breeding. Slave owners wanted the biggest strongest slaves in the field. That is a fact. Why would you want small scrawny people picking cotton and plowing fields.
Bullshit. Slaves were allowed to get married and have kids with whomever they chose. Slave owners didn't "breed" them like cattle. ::)
BTW, blacks are not bigger or stronger than whites. They just have superior speed, which gives them a huge advantage in sports like boxing, football, and sprinting. Picking cotton doesn't require a lot of physical strength. Africans made good slaves simply because they were resistant to diseases such as malaria.
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Bullshit. Slaves were allowed to get married and have kids with whomever they chose. Slave owners did not "breed" them like cattle. ::)
Some of them did.
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Bullshit. Slaves were allowed to get married and have kids with whomever they chose. Slave owners didn't "breed" them like cattle. ::)
BTW, blacks are not bigger or stronger than whites. They just have superior speed, which gives them a huge advantage in sports like boxing, football, and sprinting. Picking cotton doesn't require a lot of physical strength. Africans made good slaves simply because they were resistant to diseases such as malaria.
Hopefully...you are starting to see some of the nonsense and complete ignorance on this board. Just reply with BS.
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Okay wrong. You think toiling in the fucking fields and carrying tons of shit didn't make them stronger and bigger? Don't you think the strong muscular boys were out in the fields and the other one's worked inside? Think dude.
You are an idiot.
Endurance would be better suited for these tasks.
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Big strong parents = Big strong kid 9 times out of 10
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I am still in school to be the worlds greatest Scientist.
One day my friends. One day.
One would think that the worlds greatest scientist would look past all the propaganda that the governments of the world throw out on hormones and steroids and get down to facts on not only their effectiveness for athletes but also their anti-aging properties for old people...
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Bullshit. Slaves were allowed to get married and have kids with whomever they chose. Slave owners didn't "breed" them like cattle. ::)
BTW, blacks are not bigger or stronger than whites. They just have superior speed, which gives them a huge advantage in sports like boxing, football, and sprinting. Picking cotton doesn't require a lot of physical strength. Africans made good slaves simply because they were resistant to diseases such as malaria.
Sorry but slaves were breed like cattle. I've checked up on this a long time ago and found some interesting facts that they leave out of history books quite conveniently
1. The vast majority of Confederate soldiers didn't even own slaves
2. Lincoln owned slaves
3. The first black regiment in Glory wasn't cheered into battle like the movie stated, they were spit at and called black like it was going out of style. The actual reason they were sent in was because they knew the Fort was sealed tight as a lid and they send them in to die rather than someone else. In other words they were used as cannon fodder. That fort was never taken nor was there even a chance of it being taken
4. Slaves were breed like cattle by actual slaveowners and usually they would kill any baby that was found genetically weak. So technically one can actually argue that we are a master race and genetically superior.
5. Some blacks were so stupid that they actually fought for the Confederates in hopes of being free.
Its interesting but because history is determined by the winner, its writing will favor it. I'm glad the union won.
The difference between a terrorist and a general is no different from a winner and a loser. If you win, you are a general...if you lose you are a terrorist or rebel.
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Sorry but slaves were breed like cattle. I've checked up on this a long time ago and found some interesting facts that they leave out of history books quite conveniently
1. The vast majority of Confederate soldiers didn't even own slaves
2. Lincoln owned slaves
3. The first black regiment in Glory wasn't cheered into battle like the movie stated, they were spit at and called Black like it was going out of style. The actual reason they were sent in was because they knew the Fort was sealed tight as a lid and they send them in to die rather than someone else. In other words they were used as cannon fodder. That fort was never taken nor was there even a chance of it being taken
4. Slaves were breed like cattle by actual slaveowners and usually they would kill any baby that was found genetically weak. So technically one can actually argue that we are a master race and genetically superior.
5. Some blacks were so stupid that they actually fought for the Confederates in hopes of being free.
Its interesting but because history is determined by the winner, its writing will favor it. I'm glad the union won.
The difference between a terrorist and a general is no different from a winner and a loser. If you win, you are a general...if you lose you are a terrorist or rebel.
Racist meltdown ;D
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Slaves were breed like cattle by actual slaveowners and usually they would kill any baby that was found genetically weak. So technically one can actually argue that we are a master race and genetically superior.
Yeah they send a saliva sample into their own DNS-lab (and yes all slave owners had their own laboratory) where they researched the kids DNS.
5. Some blacks were so stupid that they actually fought for the Confederates in hopes of being free.
and some still are pretty stupid. It is told that some are even so stupid that they post photos of their fat ass in a posing trunk on the internet...........
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You can`t effectively weed out and promote alleles in just one generation.
Also, you cannot have genetic breeding without reducing the gene pool to ONLY include the dominant traits you want.
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Hey guys, that is Vince talking..Mr. Zero credibility
Hey Vince there is a great series called "Racism and the making of America". If you get a chance check out, a lot of black scholars contributed to make it as accurate as possible.
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shes still using, a drug test can ONLY test for things that are detectable...DUH!...It obviously does nothing for things that cant be traced...
Dumb bitch, I say send her to jail..
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shes still using, a drug test can ONLY test for things that are detectable...DUH!...It obviously does nothing for things that cant be traced...
Dumb bitch, I say send her to jail..
Guilty as charged!!!! >:(
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Yeah they send a saliva sample into their own DNS-lab (and yes all slave owners had their own laboratory) where they researched the kids DNS.
and some still are pretty stupid. It is told that some are even so stupid that they post photos of their fat ass in a posing trunk on the internet...........
Its called selective breeding and its actually been done for thousands of years. That's why you have domestic animals such as dogs and cats.
Pick up a few books at the library for once in your life.
For me, if I wanted to beat my enemy...I must first know my enemy
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Its called selective breeding and its actually been done for thousands of years. That's why you have domestic animals such as dogs and cats.
Pick up a few books at the library for once in your life.
For me, if I wanted to beat my enemy...I must first know my enemy
please re-read TA's posting about genotype and phenotype. And thanks about the library tip, but you know some people have their own books about this stuff and do not have to visit a library. And please refer to the words "thousands of years" in your own sentence......then think a while about what you just typed and how it can be compared to the time interval we are talking about in this case.
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please re-read TA's posting about genotype and phenotype. And thanks about the library tip, but you know some people have their own books about this stuff and do not have to visit a library. And please refer to the words "thousands of years" in your own sentence......then think a while about what you just typed and how it can be compared to the time interval we are talking about in this case.
Exactly.
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Some of you guys are really stupid.She passes the test[by the way she has passed more then 160 in her career]and she is a cheater who should go to jail.If she fails a test,she is a cheater who should go to jail.Great.Why not just throw all the great athletes in jail so perhaps you bunch of pencil necked goofballs can finally win at something.
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Some of you guys are really stupid.She passes the test[by the way she has passed more then 160 in her career]and she is a cheater who should go to jail.If she fails a test,she is a cheater who should go to jail.Great.Why not just throw all the great athletes in jail so perhaps you bunch of pencil necked goofballs can finally win at something.
There are testimonies that Marion Jones injected both EPO, THG and GH.
What's your stance on those testimonies?
YIP
Zack
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Id be willing to accept them if we would then treat all the testimony equally.For example,one of those who has said Jones used drugs is Victor Conte.Right away,anti-steroid guys believe him.However,Conte has also stated on numerous occasions that he NEVER gave steroids to Barry Bonds.WHEN HE SAYS THAT HE IS CALLED A LIAR.Either he is truthfull or a liar.If hes truthfull ,Jones used drugs and Bonds[at least according to Contes knowlege]didnt.If hes a liar,Jones didnt and Bonds did.You cant have it both ways.Another guy who claims she used drugs is her former husband.Now,this guy has failed 11 drug tests and hes a guy Jones left for Tim Montgomery.Think that might give him an axe to grind?The only proof is a failed drug test.No ones testimony means a dam thing.Anyone can say anything about anyone.Jones has NEVER failed a drug test in over 160 tries.Sorry,thats good enough for me.
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No test,therefore they can get away with it.Montgomery did fail his test.It was a women that got banned based on testimony of others in one of the most unfair things in the history of sports.
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How about the Mannings in football. Do you think the kids get any of their athletic ability from Dad?
Of course they do! We always talk about good genetics for bb etc, yet one clown here reads a book, does a cut and paste and thinks he knows all ::)
..and has the nerve to call himself an Adonis, with that mug :-\
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Adonis..............you are obviously well versed, but not very informed when it comes to athletics...........and you are probably a non-athlete (or never was an athlete). Your trying to tell us that the 2 single fastest humans on earth will not produce a fast off spring? They (the off spring) may not be eventual world record holders, but I would wager to say that they....with NO training, would be faster than 99.99% of the population. Marion Jones may/may not have taken performance enhancing drugs (I would say yes), but she was running world class times way back in high school! That's not attributed to good genetics? I understand your point....2 good gene pools does not always add up to greatness, but 2 SUPER ELITE athletes who have run faster than nearly any WORLD CLASS ATHLETE/SPRINTER in history...........are very,very most likely to have genetically-superior off spring.
Also.....as for the Manning's in football.....it's not genetics? Intelligence can be attributed to genetics (which they are) their both 6'5" 225 plus pounds....that's not genetics? No matter how much an individual trains, their not going to be 6'5" without certain gene traits. They won't run a 9.9 100 meters without superior genetics either....drugs or not. I have been an elite powerlifter who bench pressed 315 pounds as a sophomore in high school with relatively very little training, eventually pushing 400 as a senior at 200 pounds. Eventually, with 20 years of training I totalled internatonal elite in the USAPL (highest drug free ranking). My point..........my grandfather/father/mother had incredible genetics that they obviously passed down to me. Again..........not all produce superior off spring, genetically speaking.....but I would venture to say 2 SUPER ELITE athletes will produce something special.