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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TheGoldenPrince on September 10, 2006, 12:33:48 AM
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Monster symmetry and classic lines on Basile! Lousy legs (though okay calves) but enough to match the great Reeves in the upper torso?
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umm no
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just because he's white doesn't mean he's Steve. If you mean greatness than duh, Arnold.
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I opened this thread expecting to see someone bagging me! That is the first time anyone has compard me to the great Steve Reeves! I was surprized when I found that some French bodybuilder had a photo of me on his online site and said I had an ideal physique as far as he was concerned. That is all very flattering but I have never considered I had a great physique or was anyone's ideal. At best, I managed to look okay in a few poses. I wrote in 1970 that my aim was to beat Frank Zane and perhaps if I had gone to live in LA instead of Australia I might have got a bit bigger. When Frank came to my place in Sydney with Robert Nailon he told me that I won't have to go to Disneyland. I asked him why not. He said, "Because you have been in Fantasyland all your life!" He obviously had written my statement in the article I wrote after winning the Mr Canada title. I didn't laugh and I swear had I been in LA and a guy said something to me like that I would have trained my butt off. I never pulled out all the stops because bodybuilding never did seem to be worth all the risks and effort that is required to be the best.
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When your life is bodybuilding wouldn't it justify that extra mile?
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I opened this thread expecting to see someone bagging me! That is the first time anyone has compard me to the great Steve Reeves! I was surprized when I found that some French bodybuilder had a photo of me on his online site and said I had an ideal physique as far as he was concerned. That is all very flattering but I have never considered I had a great physique or was anyone's ideal. At best, I managed to look okay in a few poses. I wrote in 1970 that my aim was to beat Frank Zane and perhaps if I had gone to live in LA instead of Australia I might have got a bit bigger. When Frank came to my place in Sydney with Robert Nailon he told me that I won't have to go to Disneyland. I asked him why not. He said, "Because you have been in Fantasyland all your life!" He obviously had written my statement in the article I wrote after winning the Mr Canada title. I didn't laugh and I swear had I been in LA and a guy said something to me like that I would have trained my butt off. I never pulled out all the stops because bodybuilding never did seem to be worth all the risks and effort that is required to be the best.
This is what I've been saying to you for quite some time. You had the opportunity to become more but you played it safe and retiring instead of seeing how far you could go in the sports.
Unfortunately, that's what separates you from Frank Zane and many other honored bodybuilders. Frank went all the way, won the highest bodybuilding title 3 times and retired in stellar glory. And even with his use of steroids, he still maintains a great physique to this day, has a successful business, and commands a well deserved fee for every seminar he does.
You could have been part of the era and had your name draped in gold. But you played it safe. That was your choice that you now have to live with
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just curious what exercises did you do for your legs?
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Only "Golden Shower" would even think to make this comparison. Monster symmetry? Good upper body? He tends to get carried away, falls in love with certain white guys. :-X
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=73618.50
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Good phisic! Except legs.
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I opened this thread expecting to see someone bagging me! That is the first time anyone has compard me to the great Steve Reeves! I was surprized when I found that some French bodybuilder had a photo of me on his online site and said I had an ideal physique as far as he was concerned. That is all very flattering but I have never considered I had a great physique or was anyone's ideal. At best, I managed to look okay in a few poses. I wrote in 1970 that my aim was to beat Frank Zane and perhaps if I had gone to live in LA instead of Australia I might have got a bit bigger. When Frank came to my place in Sydney with Robert Nailon he told me that I won't have to go to Disneyland. I asked him why not. He said, "Because you have been in Fantasyland all your life!" He obviously had written my statement in the article I wrote after winning the Mr Canada title. I didn't laugh and I swear had I been in LA and a guy said something to me like that I would have trained my butt off. I never pulled out all the stops because bodybuilding never did seem to be worth all the risks and effort that is required to be the best.
Were you natural in that pic? Are you a lifetime natural?
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Very nice physique Vince!
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hahahahaha, not even close to Reeves, Vince had a decent upper body there but let's be real, his arms looked to be 15 inches and his legs are horrible.
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hahahahaha, not even close to Reeves, Vince had a decent upper body there but let's be real, his arms looked to be 15 inches and his legs are horrible.
Yeah, I'm sure your legs are a LOT bigger. ::)
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Well, times have changed, as have the fashions. Lavender Trunks! :o
/cue Getbig's homo-bashing squad in 4, 3, 2... ::)
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Yeah, I'm sure your legs are a LOT bigger. ::)
actually they are but i know yours aren't because you don't squat, hahahahahaha, monster light bulb body.
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Here is a better comparison for those of you who are visually challenged like my friend sarcasm.
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I could pump my arms and calves to 18 1/2 inches in that photo. I could do 10 to the floor full squats with 400 pounds but my thighs never got very big. I am impressed at how big the guys get their legs nowadays. If you look back at Arnold and the others their legs weren't huge, either. Bigger than mine, of course.
Like a lot of sports we really should be compared to our contemporaries. In sports like swimming guys who can't place in an Olympic final would have set world records 30 years ago. Arnold was huge for a guy 6 1 1/2 but was 235 or less in contests. Shorter guys, today, outweigh him by 50 pounds in contest condition. Who would have believed that possible?
Melvin is right about one thing. There is a point that some will not cross to win. The price is too high. In the old days we were all afraid of using steroids because it was believed you could trigger cancer, etc. I didn't use anything for over 11 years and when I did it was 2 Dianabol a day for 3 months. Mike Walzack, a doctor who advised bodybuilders on steroids, told me in Vancouver in 1970 that if I came to LA and he supervised me I could win Mr Universe within 6 months. I declined his invitation. No trophy was worth that risk or even what you had to do to win. I felt I cheated taking any steroids and Hans Gensow who inspired me to train was disgusted in 2004 when he learned about Dianabol. That was very humiliating for me and I was ashamed to ever have taken any drugs. Perhaps it is overstated about the dangers of steroids but we really have gone too far in this whole enterprise such that bodybuilding now has a really bad name to just about everyone.
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Nice physique eh? :P
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Here is a better comparison for those of you who are visually challenged like my friend sarcasm.
I don't see any similarities. Nice pasty look to go with the poor structure. Vince reminds me of Katz. :P
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these guys don't outweigh Arnold by 50lbs. you delusional old jackass, these clowns today exaggerate their weight, Ronnie told Adonis that he was 255 on stage no matter what they claim in the magazines, there isn't one competitor on the stage today over 260lbs. no matter what they claim.
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these guys don't outweigh Arnold by 50lbs. you delusional old jackass, these clowns today exaggerate their weight, Ronnie told Adonis that he was 255 on stage no matter what they claim in the magazines, there isn't one competitor on the stage today over 260lbs. no matter what they claim.
Interesting, yet what do you then think of the Ironman weight in? If the weight is adjusted, some of the competitors weighting in at around 200 pounds should really be + - 180 on stage..
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Interesting, yet what do you then think of the Ironman weight in? If the weight is adjusted, some of the competitors weighting in at around 200 pounds should realy be + - 180 on stage..
is that the one where they weighed in wearing the huge Max Muscle football jerseys, sweats and shoes?
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400 pounds is a big squat, what would u say contributes to bigger legs? the development of the 45 degree angle leg press or just that legs have become more importants in modern bodybuilding?
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is that the one where they weighed in wearing the huge Max Muscle football jerseys, sweats and shoes?
Yep. The clothes can not account for all that weight, and some of the competitors weight in at over 270+. John Balik don't seem like a liar that would have fixed the weight in order to make the competitors heavier. If so, they must have a real time calibration device in the weight or some programming, if not, some competitors would in reality weight less than 180.
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The 50 pound thing was because Arnold was 225 or so at his best in contest condition. I suppose you could add about 10 pounds for depletion. I have no real idea what the guys weighed in contest shape. I weighed about 200 pounds in that photo above and competed at about 190 and still wasn't cut in my thighs. I could do a strict bench press with 400 pounds then.
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Yep. The clothes can not account for all that weight, and some of the competitors weight in at over 270+. John Balik don't seem like a liar that would have fixed the weight.
the were only a couple of guys who weighed over that one was well over 6 feet tall and the other one was Tom Prince and you know what happened to him after the weighin and even he would have been 260 or below without the 12 pounds of clothes.
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Yep. The clothes can not account for all that weight, and some of the competitors weight in at over 270+. John Balik don't seem like a liar that would have fixed the weight in order to make the competitors heavier. If so, they must have a real time calibration device in the weight or some programming, if not, some competitors would in reality weight less than 180.
I heard their fannypacks get pretty full.
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The 50 pound thing was because Arnold was 225 or so at his best in contest condition. I suppose you could add about 10 pounds for depletion. I have no real idea what the guys weighed in contest shape. I weighed about 200 pounds in that photo above and competed at about 190 and still wasn't cut in my thighs. I could do a strict bench press with 400 pounds then.
bullshit, Arnold was 235 and Ronnie at his very heaviest was 260 onstage, that's only 25 pounds and i'd take Arnolds body any day over Ronnie's.
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the were only a couple of guys who weighed over that one was well over 6 feet tall and the other one was Tom Prince and you know what happened to him after the weighin and even he would have been 260 or below without the 12 pounds of clothes.
Yet still it's a strong counterargument against no competitor being over 260 pounds onstage.
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Yet still it's a strong counterargument against no competitor being over 260 pounds onstage.
i'll rephrase that, there are no competitors UNDER 6 FEET TALL over 260lbs.
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How do you guys post two photos side by side like this one? I have never compared myself to Reeves but in the photo I don't look that bad standing next to him.
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How do you guys post two photos side by side like this one? I have never compared myself to Reeves but in the photo I don't look that bad standing next to him.
He's used photoshop/similar program to make it (a simple task)
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the were only a couple of guys who weighed over that one was well over 6 feet tall and the other one was Tom Prince and you know what happened to him after the weighin and even he would have been 260 or below without the 12 pounds of clothes.
Markus. He's not 6 feet tall and easily weighs 260.
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New photos
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New photos
Looks like George Eiferman when he was in his late ages.
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Looks like George Eiferman when he was in his late ages.
GEorge looked way better than that guy, all respect to Vince but he looks like shit and not even close to what he was in the past Oh Mr. Canda! Two tabs of Dianbol (so he says) or not, he still looked good in 1970, but him and Reeves differ big time in the later years, i.e. Reeves was always in shape b/c he was a true bodybuilder. My two cents.
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It is easy to look like crap when you put on fat and don't train much. I never did like training that much. When I stopped teaching PE I found I put on weight and then it was not so easy to lose. In 1970 I was 210 pounds two weeks out and competed at 190 by just dieting. I didn't do any cardio. At the moment I weigh about 225 and the old lines have gone. I think when I tore a biceps doing a 510 pound deadlift without much warm up back in 1978 it killed a lot of motivation to do bodybuilding. My right biceps was never the same.
Somebody started this thread comparing what I used to look like to someone who is revered in bodybuilding. Truth be told, Steve Reeves didn't look so great in the standard poses but looked superb in other poses and especially with arms raised over head. Plus, he was one of the few who had big calves in the old days. When I started bodybuilding he wasn't who I aspired to be like. Years later I came to appreciate what he represented. Grimek beat Reeves easily in a contest in 1949 in the Mr USA. Today Grimek's physique isn't admired so much any more and I guess partly because Reeves seemed leaner.
I sure look over the hill in those photos but at least I am not under it!
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It is easy to look like crap when you put on fat and don't train much. I never did like training that much. When I stopped teaching PE I found I put on weight and then it was not so easy to lose. In 1970 I was 210 pounds two weeks out and competed at 190 by just dieting. I didn't do any cardio. At the moment I weigh about 225 and the old lines have gone. I think when I tore a biceps doing a 510 pound deadlift without much warm up back in 1978 it killed a lot of motivation to do bodybuilding. My right biceps was never the same.
Somebody started this thread comparing what I used to look like to someone who is revered in bodybuilding. Truth be told, Steve Reeves didn't look so great in the standard poses but looked superb in other poses and especially with arms raised over head. Plus, he was one of the few who had big calves in the old days. When I started bodybuilding he wasn't who I aspired to be like. Years later I came to appreciate what he represented. Grimek beat Reeves easily in a contest in 1949 in the Mr USA. Today Grimek's physique isn't admired so much any more and I guess partly because Reeves seemed leaner.
I sure look over the hill in those photos but at least I am not under it!
Wow what a response, I was not expecting that one. I now feel bad critizing you. Much respect Mr. Basile, much respect. I take back any criticism to you, my apologies.
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If I look like that at around sixty years of age I will be very happy.
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A few of photos taken recently.
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A few of photos taken recently.
that's shane stratton mr universe...
what was his gym like vince?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93521.0;attach=101429;image)
I'm sure you could pull a lot of quality birds with a physique like this. This is around the type of build I want to have.
Love the "do" too. You look like a happy guy Vince.
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That photo was taken in my gym some months ago when Shane visited. I asked him about his gym in Thailand and he said he had to sell it. He wouldn't elaborate about his business but he owned the gym Dennis James trained in. He said he suffered some injuries and now cannot train that heavy so has lost a lot of size. He still looked very impressive but I never saw Shane at his biggest.
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I never had any trouble getting girlfriends. That is part of the reason I am single today! Even after knowing women for all these years I have no idea what they want! I look as good as those guys in Manpower that the women go nuts about. Not many women seemed to fancy us muscle guys in those days and nothing has changed much even today.
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Awesome physique Vince--very Zane like and very impressive. When you tore your biceps, was it on the arm you had the undergrip? Any surgery? Partial or full tear?
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I tore my right biceps and it was the undergrip that did it. I have had a sore biceps for decades and when throwing things I would get sore near the elbow. I used to be a discus and javelin thrower. I cannot lock out my arms and never could. So there might have been some sort of damage already in the biceps. The heavy deadlift was the straw that broke the camel's back. What happened was the biceps doing the supination tore. So I cannot arm wrestle with my right arm or do supination with very heavy weight. My biceps get sore easily when training arms. I still managed to place second in the two recent Australian Grip Championships against all comers. I won some events, too, and still hold the record for best pinch grip ever with 92.5 kg with my right hand on my pinch grip machine.
I don't recommend that anyone do deadlifts as I consider it a dangerous exercise with little benefits for a physique. There are better exercises for traps and spinal erectors.
I had surgery done by a microsurgeon but 18 months after the injury and there was nothing they could do. The scar from the operation is almost invisible. I tore the sheath that covers the biceps, too. Had the tendon come off the bone I could have had it repaired. If the muscle tears there is little anyone can do about it. When I presented at the hospital when it tore they put my arm in a sling and sent me home! That was devastating. I can get my arms bigger but it is still painful to train biceps. I think I now prefer triceps training but also have very tender elbows from years of javelin throwing.
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I got a few compliments for my legs but that was about it. Having a good physique is hardly a handicap when it comes to women but I must admit that they are turned off by large bodybuilders. I was never repulsive to them. Larry Scott said that when women get that yuk look you know you are getting big!
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Most women don't know what to do with guys with big muscles. They usually have dads and brothers who were average so their idea of a man is not necessarily one with a great physique. Guys that are big and who look good just walking around do command respect and I have been with women who were impressed by guys with great legs walking down the street or at the beach. Almost every woman is turned off with photos of bodybuilders posing under lights and oiled up.
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Here are 4 versions of the double biceps pose by Zane, Reeves, Wolf, and me.
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Interesting Vince, I've not heard a lot of injury stories but wow, torn bicep from deadlifting. I'd have never guessed.
I think I stick to exclusive overhand :)
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I did a 525 pound deadlift as a 198 pounder naturally way back in 1964 or so and broke the then UBC open record for the deadlift. That gained me a lot of respect from football players who called us mirror athletes and figleafers!
So 500 pounds wasn't that heavy for me. What happened was we received some new Olympic sets to stop the lads fighting over the bar on the bench press. Well, it was the cool season in Australia and I thought I would see if I could break the gym record. A guy called The Pope was urging me on and I would normally have not finished the lift. I was yanking it up and that is when my right biceps tore. I was using Dianabol then and perhaps that contributed to the injury. I was very strong at the time and benched 410 and curled 185 strictly. Deadlifts are dangerous. Why risk a muscle tear doing that exercise. Bench pressing is also bad for shoulders. You seldom see old men doing heavy benches.
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I injured my chest/shoulder doing bench presses. I don't really know what happened as I never sought medical help but basically I was very into bringing to the chest in every rep and one day it hurt a lot bringing it up. Never been the same since. Fortunately dumbells don't cause too much discomfort and I appear to be on track to be decently strong at pressing them.
As for deadlift.. I've been deadlifting heavy for a while now and I've never really had any major upper body stress. To be honest your story makes me conscious of the risk but I've never really felt overt pressure in the upper body. I believe that deadlifts are dangerous but I have to say that for me the perceived danger is the fact I'm as red as is humanly possible during the heavy ones and I feel like I'm going to explode!
I do use straps though and overhand grip. I wouldn't really go for a max either since it wouldn't be all that impressive anyway.
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As for Gyms in brisbane there are a couple of decent ones but I do not go to them. Will be changing soon though. Thats if fitness first don't take over every gym in this city by then
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We bodybuilders do a lot of foolish things in the gym. Demonstrating strength is one such foolish thing. There is no need ever to do anything less than 5 reps of a movement. Arthur Jones was right about that. We also do exercises that were handed down to us. Someone said you do lat pulldowns for back. Well, that exercise works the arms, shoulders, abs, chest and lower back, too. A great all rounder for the upper body. Naturally most bodybuilders never transcend what they pick up at the gym or read in magazines.
Why would anyone do a deadlift? The biceps are stretched and are in a very weak position. It is literally asking for trouble. Look at all the guys tearing biceps and chest muscles. All that high intensity stuff is dangerous. Most bodybuilding is dangerous. It took until about 5 years ago to realise that arm machines and benches should not have pads under the elbows. Why? Well, pressure on the elbows will damage the sheath that goes over the elbow joint. If you damage that area you will experience a lifetime of elbow pain. I still have to do heaps of pressdowns with a light weight to warm the elbows up. No one told us about that worry and most gym equipment companies have no idea about the dangerous pads they install under the elbows. It would be the same if someone put pads under the knees in leg curl machines.
Fitness First are a worry everywhere in Australia but I wonder if Aussies will keep going to them. At least their concept of a gym is light years ahead of any other chain that has opened up in Australia in the last 30 years.
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Fitness first is hugely popular, I see people with their bags everywhere I go. I've been to a couple but I quickly discovered that a gym full of used car salesmen, epic cardio equipment and a very average weights area for $700 a year is shit (could be more, no idea).
As I cannot benchpress I need decent sized dumbells and that in itself is an issue with most gyms.
I don't really think the biceps are in a weak area in a deadlift. Put a big dumbell in someone's hand for long enough and its more likely they will complain about their traps and their grip before biceps. I can easily deadlift and then go chin, curl afterwards and whilst there is some ability lost due to the deadlifts I don't think its that much.
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If you do deadlifts for at least 5 reps you probably won't have any trouble with biceps tears. A guy in my gym was doing heavy holds with up to 700 pounds. He tore a biceps at work when he was trying to shift a billiard table with some huge Islander guy on the other end. Very sad to see that happen to anyone else. Doing anything near your limit for a single is asking for trouble. If you warm up and progress on a movement you should be okay.
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I do definitely warm up. I do prefer to do 3 rep sets though. I don't like doing too many reps because I find the form suffers somewhat and then the lower back is brought too much into it. But I generally don't hit heavy until the 4th set.
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Only "Golden Shower" would even think to make this comparison. Monster symmetry? Good upper body? He tends to get carried away, falls in love with certain white guys. :-X
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=73618.50
I was being sarcastic you moronic little queer... ;)
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Hey, Prince, no need to state the obvious!
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Vince, serious question- what kinds of steroids did you use back in the day?
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Well, times have changed, as have the fashions. Lavender Trunks! :o
/cue Getbig's homo-bashing squad in 4, 3, 2... ::)
At least they wore trunks then and not thongs like they do today.
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At least they wore trunks then and not thongs like they do today.
this coming from a guy who has his boyfriend take a picture of him in a tank top, khaki shorts and Timberlands by a campfire, hahahaha, gay as the day is long.
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Yes that's pretty gay haha.
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I was being sarcastic you moronic little queer... ;)
Golden shower, do you still think your Robby Robinson? Or did i miss the thread where you admitted you werent ? ?hahhahahahah
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The way I see it: every pro goes through the stage of having an ideal body in their way to being a pro. At that point they are probably getting a lot of dates, so HOW can they ignore this and keep on training to get bigger?
Like anything it gets to be compulsive. Like an anorexic who thinks he or she is fat when they are walking skeletons. No matter how big these guys get they are insecure and think they aren't big enough.
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this coming from a guy who has his boyfriend take a picture of him in a tank top, khaki shorts and Timberlands by a campfire, hahahaha, gay as the day is long.
at least I POSTED A PICTURE Mr. phantom 18" arms and intimidator of grade school kids and leader of a pack of teenage bozo's. ::)
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Yes that's pretty gay haha.
Ok, you worthless brown nosing toadie.
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this coming from a guy who has his boyfriend take a picture of him in a tank top, khaki shorts and Timberlands by a campfire, hahahaha, gay as the day is long.
Its pretty obvious you like the thongs Mr. fraud.
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this coming from a guy who has his boyfriend take a picture of him in a tank top, khaki shorts and Timberlands by a campfire, hahahaha, gay as the day is long.
Maybe I looked bad to you. At least I had the guts to post a pic. Why don't you post one? Oh, i'm sorry. Frozzor beat you to the one you wanted to use.
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Ok, you worthless brown nosing toadie.
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Don't make me post your picture uncle fester, haha.
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Ok, you worthless brown nosing toadie.
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Don't make me post your picture uncle fester, haha.
Go ahead toadie. Please post my pic you goofball. ::)
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I did a 525 pound deadlift as a 198 pounder naturally way back in 1964 or so and broke the then UBC open record for the deadlift. That gained me a lot of respect from football players who called us mirror athletes and figleafers!
So 500 pounds wasn't that heavy for me. What happened was we received some new Olympic sets to stop the lads fighting over the bar on the bench press. Well, it was the cool season in Australia and I thought I would see if I could break the gym record. A guy called The Pope was urging me on and I would normally have not finished the lift. I was yanking it up and that is when my right biceps tore. I was using Dianabol then and perhaps that contributed to the injury. I was very strong at the time and benched 410 and curled 185 strictly. Deadlifts are dangerous. Why risk a muscle tear doing that exercise. Bench pressing is also bad for shoulders. You seldom see old men doing heavy benches.
wow you went to UBC!! Great school!
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UBC used to have a weights room under the stadium which was next to War Memorial Gym. We used to train there and for two years in 1964 and 65 we held a Strongest Man on Campus contest open to all the students. I won both years. We did the squat, deadlift, curl and bench press, plus you needed to be able to pinch a thick heavy disc to even qualify to enter. Somehow the authorities closed the training area to everyone so the only way we had access was to form a club. I drew up the necessary constitution and we elected officials. We called ourselves the Figleafers because the football players used to tease us. They stopped teasing us when I broke the university record in the deadlift but we still called ourselves figs afterwards. The figleaf was used to cover the genitals in those nude sculptures in Greece and Rome to not offend the believers in the Catholic Church.
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Here is a better comparison for those of you who are visually challenged like my friend sarcasm.
Damn man, Vince, your upper body is very comparable to Steve there! Arms certainly and lats, on a shorterframe...good work there! Your shortfall was your legs though. Why didn't you try carying on natural? Nothing to lose but cash since effort and drive I guess were already within your grasp?
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Damn man, Vince, your upper body is very comparable to Steve there! Arms certainly and lats, on a shorterframe...good work there!
The only similarity is that they're both hitting the same pose.
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Really good physique Vince, but I fail to see the resemblance to Reeves body at all.
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There is no resemblance. It was a joke.
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The only similarity is that they're both hitting the same pose.
Hahaha, ok "Pumpster", thanks pal for stating the only obvious fact you grasped. ;)
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The strange thing is no one from the old days compared himself to Reeves. He seemed beyond compare. The reality was different. He tied with Eric Pederson for the 1947 AAU Mr America and Eric lost because he had some acne. Reeves lost to Grimek. No contest. When Prince put my photo next to Reeves I thought here we go, another pasting. However, when I looked Reeves doesn't look great in that post. Sure he has great lines and so on but his compulsories were not great. So Prince did me a favour because I would never have even considered comparing myself with the past greats. While I admit that Reeves had a superior development it wasn't by much in some poses. This thread was meant as a spoof and I accept that. That is why the guys on Ironage think I am a fool for posting here.
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Hahaha, ok "Pumpster", thanks pal for stating the only obvious fact you grasped. ;)
there is only one fact that is obvious 93 Flex Wheeler couldn't pinch an inch. If 93 jim quinn is trustworthy and is capable of accurately assessing the truth value of 93 billy smith's claims
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Golden shower, do you still think your Robby Robinson? Or did i miss the thread where you admitted you werent ? ?hahhahahahah
LOL, begging for yet another comprehensive owning eh Jayjonna, you castrated little Filipino amigo? ;D Man Joanne with yer your butt ugly Filipina mug, tiny arms and a gut, you should go to Dave's World Gym. He'll take pity on you and train ya for free, which your desperately in need of!
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LOL, begging for yet another comprehensive owning eh Jayjonna, you castrated little Filipino amigo? Man Joanne with yer your butt ugly Filipina mug, tiny arms and a gut, you should go to Dave's World Gym. He'll take pity on you and train ya for free, which your desperately in need of!
Ebonics of some type. Next time include the translation.
Hahaha, ok "Pumpster", thanks pal for stating the only obvious fact you grasped.
The obvious must be hammered home to Mentzer groupies.
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Ebonics of some type. Next time include the translation.
The obvious must be hammered home to Mentzer groupies.
Translation only needed for castrated turds like you who've lost all brain function. ;D
Haha, and you're the Mentzer groupie, talking about his manhood (and mine too) like that all the time. Your "tough talk" can't fool me boy!
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Just wondering, you guys who are talking about ray or mike, have you ever met them or trained with them.
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Just wondering, you guys who are talking about ray or mike, have you ever met them or trained with them.
LOL, yes.