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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Scimowser on September 10, 2006, 07:39:25 AM
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Reading a review on a DVD about betil and it says he did the following for a chest workout. Some very impressive numbers, especially as it says he had minimal rest between all sets. Hes also said to have worked chest earlier that morning and had no gloves either, which he always wore for benching. If this is true then he was every bit as strong as any pro today, and probably stronger than most!
135 - 10 reps
225 - 10 reps
295 - 10 reps
365 - 10 reps
435 - 9 reps
Followed by a drop set....
495 - 1 reps
435 - 1 reps
365 - 2 reps
295 - 6 reps
Then followed by 295 for 10 almost straight away
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wrong, he did 505 for the single, then he did 435 for 2, 365 for 4, 295 for 2 and 225 for 5 followed by a set with 365 for 8.
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incline curling 90lb dumbbells simultaneously - this is fucking insane!
God awful form but how much is he curling here???
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Benching Monster!!!
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I hate watching most pros work out. The only one I really liked was Dorian on the bench because it at least looked like he had decent form. I know it works for them and they are all bigger than I am, however, if I saw a guy lift like most pros in the gym without their size, I really wouldn't think they were doing it correctly. :-\
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I hate watching most pros work out. The only one I really liked was Dorian on the bench because it at least looked like he had decent form. I know it works for them and they are all bigger than I am, however, if I saw a guy lift like most pros in the gym without their size, I really wouldn't think they were doing it correctly. :-\
i guess that's because you're such a big, strong master of the weight room, right "dorkeroo"? ::)
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i guess that's because you're such a big, strong master of the weight room, right "dorkeroo"? ::)
Yeah I guess so. I mean we can't all be admiring people who slap little men around like me or sucking off other guys like the True Adonis right ? :-*
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He was a sore loser, had a lousy attitude and was a racist who become a murderer.
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He was a sore loser, had a lousy attitude and was a racist who become a murderer.
Tell that to retaf ruo! Crazy ass pecs and arms!
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I thought that Betil's form on the bench press was pretty good. He is hands down stronger than most of the pro's today, and thta's not even taking bodyweight into consideration.
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I hate watching most pros work out. The only one I really liked was Dorian on the bench because it at least looked like he had decent form. I know it works for them and they are all bigger than I am, however, if I saw a guy lift like most pros in the gym without their size, I really wouldn't think they were doing it correctly. :-\
OH..PLEASE!!!...KING IF BAD FORM IN EVERYTHING...RIGHT DOWN TO TEARING MUSCLES
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Which muscle did Betil tear?
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OH..PLEASE!!!...KING IF BAD FORM IN EVERYTHING...RIGHT DOWN TO TEARING MUSCLES
On Blood and Guts he looked pretty strict in his benching is all I was saying man. Take a valium, or hit caps lock :o
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Which muscle did Betil tear?
Two mouthy whores. Crazy ass pecs. Teh judges at St Kitts sucks penises.
Beef it Betil was a monster in his time, and density personified.
YIP
Zack
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Well put, couldn't agree more.
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How do you know about his form? From one or two videos you may have seen. Because you sell them,that doesn't mean you know the first thing about the day in and day training year after year. How did you or Gmv get the rights to those videos?
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Betil had a word or two for people on the fringe,not involved but making noise. They were wankers or crawlers.
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bertil fox was one of those pros who had a narrow structure...he looked like shit to me..too narrow,no delts,no back and no verall width..he guys like haney and mike quinn were were wider than him..fox in my opinion had big ass arms though but overall fox was just a bitch...he was not big enough
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Did he not write an open letter to Flex one time?
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How do you know about his form? From one or two videos you may have seen. Because you sell them,that doesn't mean you know the first thing about the day in and day training year after year. How did you or Gmv get the rights to those videos?
Naturally a pro will use his heaviest weight and best form when doing a video so he can give the impression that he always works out that finely.
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Brutal Bertil is one of my favourites, ever. After the Myth ofcourse!
Peace
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i actually though that Bertil's form was pretty good considering the weight, at least he did full reps on his pressing movements.
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Yeah, his pressing movements were pretty well perfect. Full range of motion and all the way to the bottom so what more can you want?
His form was bad, but not in moreso in terms of cadence/timing (dumbbell presses), range of motion (what the hell were those dumbbell curls he was doing? lol), and quitting before hitting failure. As strong as he was, I always felt he could have done more reps if he wanted to. It seemd that he would quit at the slightest sign of a struggle. If anything, that speaks for his sheer physical strength but just not so much for his mental efforts. No matter how you cut it, he's better than 95% of bodybuilders I've seen train, bad form or not.
yeah, he did do half squats and i don't know what he was doing on the one arm preachers over the incline bench WTF?
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LOLOLOL. Can anyone explain that one?
onlyme - speak on this.
it's also interesting how on his big barbell lifts he uses 35lb. plates after the first two 45's, i wonder what that was about.
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from what ive learned about Bertil, he always used the heaviest weights possible especially for benching. Keith is the only person i can think of that can verify anything to do with bertil in the gym, as usual his input is always wanted and respected. Now ive read many times Keith remarking that bertil could man handle 4-500lbs better than almost anyone, but ive never heard anything about his ability to squat or deadlift. I assume he was very strong at these also judging by the overall size he had.
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from what ive learned about Bertil, he always used the heaviest weights possible especially for benching. Keith is the only person i can think of that can verify anything to do with bertil in the gym, as usual his input is always wanted and respected. Now ive read many times Keith remarking that bertil could man handle 4-500lbs better than almost anyone, but ive never heard anything about his ability to squat or deadlift. I assume he was very strong at these also judging by the overall size he had.
he half squatted 505 for 10 with a close stance on the video and didn't do any deadlifts but he barbell rowed around 270 all the way bent over and standing on a block for 10.
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Here's the picture of Bertil with 505:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/brutalbertilfoxintraining1/126.JPG)
Looks like he shot for parallel and not below:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/brutalbertilfoxintraining1/127.JPG)
Not sure what he could do for one deep rep below parallel, but with a power suit on I don't see why he couldn't hit 700 for a single. Even wraps add lots of bounce to a lift and with that, a lot of weight. For deads, I have no idea. By the sheer strength of the rest of his body I would assume he could pull at least 600. Coupled with a bench of at least 550 in contest form, I think his total would be at 1,850 or more. When you think about it, Johnnie Jackson's contest total was 2,172 and Ronnie's would probably not be higher than 2,300 at most. Granted, even 50 pounds to the total means a lot by powerlifting standards.
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Probably best genetics ever.
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did bertil perform these lift raw? Im thinking he could have gotten 725 on the squat, atleast a 650 dead (John Cena has done more than that apparently) and a bench in the region of 575
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did bertil perform these lift raw? Im thinking he could have gotten 725 on the squat, atleast a 650 dead (John Cena has done more than that apparently) and a bench in the region of 575
i disagree, Bertil probably could hve squatted around 600 for 1 below parallel, he squatted very high, maybe 600 on the deadlift like Matt said and maybe 525-530 bench, ther is NO WAY that Cena has deadlifted or squatted 650 plus.
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Matt C, I'm not to sure about your opinion on his form. Maybe you could explain it to us one more time. To answer the question about his dead-lift strength, he did not do these while he lived here in Calif. Back workouts were typically weighted wide grip pull-ups to the front, pull-downs behind the neck, barbell bent rows, one arm db rows and low pulley rows. The weights used in both of those videos were NOT the heaviest he could do,ie..trying to show off, they were merely representations of a typical workout, if anything, some of the poundages were a little on the light side for what he normaly used. I remember one bench workout 3 days before the Night of the Champions were he benched 525 for 3 or 4 reps. He really never counted what the weight was on the bar, just knew the number of 35's on each side. 35's were used because on stripping sets it gave the weight reduction he wanted. They were also the incriments used to build up the bar on squats and on the press behind the neck.
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bertil fox was one of those pros who had a narrow structure...he looked like shit to me..too narrow,no delts,no back and no verall width..he guys like haney and mike quinn were were wider than him..fox in my opinion had big ass arms though but overall fox was just a bitch...he was not big enough
Ya, he looked horrible. ::) Overall he always looked better than Haney, with better balance and without Haney's 17" arms & putrid legs but then there's something called politics. ;D
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Ya, he looked horrible. ::) Overall he always looked better than Haney, with better balance and without Haney's 17" arms & putrid legs but then there's something called politics. ;D
blah blah blah blah blah blah...wat ever fox sucked and so do you
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.....my life is so incomplete if i dont know exactly what fox lifted every day! and also exactly haw far down he squatted and how his bench form was!....
pathetic. go to the gym and stop pissing over what anybody else, pro or not lifts. Fvcking tools.
truth
Word
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wat ever fox sucked and so do you
Your judgement on BB's as good as your spelling-try golf.
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I hate watching most pros work out. The only one I really liked was Dorian on the bench because it at least looked like he had decent form. I know it works for them and they are all bigger than I am, however, if I saw a guy lift like most pros in the gym without their size, I really wouldn't think they were doing it correctly. :-\
You gotta watch Levrone bencing, he has the most perfect form ever.
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now that is impressive benching! Every rep he does up to 405 looks so easy its unreal. Even the first 2 on the 495 look no bother to him, i never realised he was THAT good at benching
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You gotta watch Levrone bencing, he has the most perfect form ever.
Wow. I guess what mom said about monsters coming out at night was true :o That was very impressive, thanks for the clip. Any idea what year that was from?
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Ya, he looked horrible. ::) Overall he always looked better than Haney, with better balance and without Haney's 17" arms & putrid legs but then there's something called politics. ;D
17" arms and putrid legs, hahahahaha, you really lost all credibility with that statement. ::)
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17" arms and putrid legs, hahahahaha, you really lost all credibility with that statement. ::)
hahahaha, you can't handle the truth, you worship Haney because your arms are only 14 inches after 10 years of training.
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17" arms and putrid legs, hahahahaha, you really lost all credibility with that statement. ::)
in all fairness Haney had small arms and chicken legs. He was ALL chest, that is what made him famous. His back was probably the best of his era but nothing else jumped out, well atleast IMO
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Haney only looks good in shots that emphasize the torso; anything that makes the arms or legs too prominent he gets killed. One of the worst ever MMs.
Wide lats and incredible taper to a tiny waist distract from the obvious imbalance of the torso with puny arms & legs; it's comical. Both of the guys in this pic look better overall despite bigger waists-their arms are bigger and the difference in quad size is a joke-Haney has chicken legs.
Fox, Robinson and Padilla have no Sandows and Haney has 8-maybe the IFBB's a commercial enterprise with agendas? ;D
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it's also interesting how on his big barbell lifts he uses 35lb. plates after the first two 45's, i wonder what that was about.
That happened allot. Back then we didn't have an unlimited number ofplates like today. So if anyonewas squatting or whatever there just might not have been enough plates. Also, at time if he isworking up and he adds a 35 it takes less time and energy to add just another 35 instaed of walking around trying to find a 45. Nothing odd about it back then. I know I used to do it because seeing all 45's on the bar would pysche me out.
The one thing I find funny is how anyone can say anything negative about Bertils strength. No matter if the video shows him doing half reps or whatever, that was not the case in most of his lifts. The one thing about how we lifted back then (most of the time) is we had good form. I learned it from the beginning. It was more important back then to do the exercise correctly than to put a ton of weight on the bar to showoff to increase video sales or impress others. More pride in lifting back then today. The gym was fun and a classroom at the same time. NO personal trainers. If you wanted to know something you walked up to Louie or Arnold or Franco or whoever and ask them. Then you would find yourself doing sets with a professional BB and an idol for FREE. It is shitty nowadays.
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That happened allot. Back then we didn't have an unlimited number ofplates like today. So if anyonewas squatting or whatever there just might not have been enough plates. Also, at time if he isworking up and he adds a 35 it takes less time and energy to add just another 35 instaed of walking around trying to find a 45. Nothing odd about it back then. I know I used to do it because seeing all 45's on the bar would pysche me out.
The one thing I find funny is how anyone can say anything negative about Bertils strength. No matter if the video shows him doing half reps or whatever, that was not the case in most of his lifts. The one thing about how we lifted back then (most of the time) is we had good form. I learned it from the beginning. It was more important back then to do the exercise correctly than to put a ton of weight on the bar to showoff to increase video sales or impress others. More pride in lifting back then today. The gym was fun and a classroom at the same time. NO personal trainers. If you wanted to know something you walked up to Louie or Arnold or Franco or whoever and ask them. Then you would find yourself doing sets with a professional BB and an idol for FREE. It is shitty nowadays.
Yup. I look back at the vintage video's and I wish I was in the scene back then. these new guys have zero personality. As adonis would say ALL DRUGS
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Haney only looks good in shots that emphasize the torso; anything that makes the arms or legs too prominent he gets killed. One of the worst ever MMs.
Wide lats and incredible taper to a tiny waist distract from the obvious imbalance of the torso with puny arms & legs; it's comical. Both of the guys in this pic look better overall despite bigger waists-their arms are bigger and the difference in quad size is a joke-Haney has chicken legs.
Fox, Robinson and Padilla have no Sandows and Haney has 8-maybe the IFBB's a commercial enterprise with agendas? ;D
whos the guy on the far left he looks better than both yates and haney
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You gotta watch Levrone bencing, he has the most perfect form ever.
My guess is that Levrone was at his all time strongest in 96-97, when he also was at his biggest. Only Levrone (and Earl) knows though.
This clip is from "M3", a few years after. 2001?
YIP
Zack
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whos the guy on the far left he looks better than both yates and haney
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