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Here it is folks! The Military Draft Bill already in Congress.
Universal National Service Act of 2006
Bill: HR 4752
"To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes
Read all about it for yourself folks...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752.IH: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752.IH:)
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Can we still saw our trigger fingers off to avoid the draft?
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i am not going all the way around the war to kill a bunch of camel jockeys when i can do the same thing here in the comfort of my own home ;D
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Haven't read the bill, but I like the concept.
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Haven't read the bill, but I like the concept.
Exactly. Only positives can be attained by national service.
Did my grandparents ok, and I love the stories they used to tell about it.
Only people who have issues with this are muslims (won't fight for their adopted countries against muzzie states) and liberals who think their shit doesn't stink e.g. Jag, Ozmo, Beserker, 240 etc etc
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I haven't read it & don't care to.
I served my time...would do it again because I just don't care.
My contract has been long expired....they wouldn't take me even if I tried & volunteered.
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HAHA, yeah right.
I imagine there would be mass uprisings if they tried to institute a draft for "Operation Iraqi Freedom"? LOL
Exactly. Only positives can be attained by national service.
Did my grandparents ok, and I love the stories they used to tell about it.
Only people who have issues with this are muslims (won't fight for their adopted countries against muzzie states) and liberals who think their shit doesn't stink e.g. Jag, Ozmo, Beserker, 240 etc etc
Why don't you sign up and go fight? LOL Would really do you some good.
By the way... You should hear my grandfathers stories about saving your Grandparents British asses in WWII, or is it arses? :D
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Haven't read the bill, but I like the concept.
you seriously think we should draft Americans to fight a 3rd bullshit war?
1. We attacked Afghanistan after Taliban agreed to turn over Bin Laden - as soon as the US showed the world some evidence.
2. We attacked Iraq for WMDs right? I think it became "to give iraqis freedom" later, but there are other nations far more vicious on their people. We just liked iraq, um, why again?
3. We're dying to hit Syrai and iran.
beacn bum
1- would you be willing to fight in Syria?
2- would you be willing to send your children to fight there?
If the answer to either is NO, then you're one of those pussies who wholeheartedly agres with a draft as long as you and yours are safe. If you were just being sarcastic above, my apologies.
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liberals who think their shit doesn't stink e.g. Jag, Ozmo, Beserker, 240 etc etc
I'm not a liberal.
I vote repub/conservative on just about all domestic and int'l issues.
I just smell quite a few lies in the 911 story and feel we need a enw investigation.
To question your govt is not unpatriotic, and I feel sorry for you if you believe this is the case.
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I'm not a liberal.
I vote repub/conservative on just about all domestic and int'l issues.
I just smell quite a few lies in the 911 story and feel we need a enw investigation.
To question your govt is not unpatriotic, and I feel sorry for you if you believe this is the case.
It's really sad to think there are Americans who still haven't caught on yet. I can't be branded as a liberal either. I supported Bush and made an ass out of my self many times defending his ass, but theres no defending him anymore.
A lot of you need to pull your heads out of your ass and THINK!
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i remember how betrayed, pissed, and just DUMB that I felt when the 911 lie finally became clear. Two votes for bush, plus maybe 10 people I swayed lol...
They'll feel that way someday too. They trust the people on the news who tell them how the world works... but in other countries around the world, the 911 official story is falling apart very quickly. I read them on 911 boards, and I don't even bother posting them ehre. People just scream 'liberal!' or insult me. But yall should know - the rest of the world is seriously laughing at us. It's common knowledge in a lot of thw world that we did 911.
I'll predict that you'll hear more next week in the UN. And yeah, you'll call these world leaders crazy, you'll call their evidence fake. Then, a few whitsleblowers will come fwd, at least 2 in Argentina. You'll call them liars. Engineers in a quite a few countries have reviewed WTC and many of them say it's a classic demolition. You'll hear form more.
But you don't ever have to believe it. believe whatever makes you feel happy, and safe. I'll take the very uncomfortable and very terrifying truth.
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you seriously think we should draft Americans to fight a 3rd bullshit war?
1. We attacked Afghanistan after Taliban agreed to turn over Bin Laden - as soon as the US showed the world some evidence.
2. We attacked Iraq for WMDs right? I think it became "to give iraqis freedom" later, but there are other nations far more vicious on their people. We just liked iraq, um, why again?
3. We're dying to hit Syrai and iran.
beacn bum
1- would you be willing to fight in Syria?
2- would you be willing to send your children to fight there?
If the answer to either is NO, then you're one of those pussies who wholeheartedly agres with a draft as long as you and yours are safe. If you were just being sarcastic above, my apologies.
1. I was/am willing to fight wherever our country needs help.
2. My daughter is thinking about West Point and if she joins the military she will go wherever her country needs her, with my support.
I served four years in the Army. I doubt you've spent a day on active duty. That helps keep your comments in perspective.
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1. I was/am willing to fight wherever our country needs help.
2. My daughter is thinking about West Point and if she joins the military she will go wherever her country needs her, with my support.
I served four years in the Army. I doubt you've spent a day on active duty. That helps keep your comments in perspective.
You spent 4 years in the Army, and you support making our kids die in the sands of Iran for something they haven't yet done?
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My country calls upon me, and i will answer the call
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You spent 4 years in the Army, and you support making our kids die in the sands of Iran for something they haven't yet done?
??? What the heck are you talking about??? Who said anything about supporting a war in Iran???
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??? What the heck are you talking about??? Who said anything about supporting a war in Iran???
bb, reasoning w the mentally challenged is akin to banging one's head against a brick wall.
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??? What the heck are you talking about??? Who said anything about supporting a war in Iran???
The military draft bill would be used to feed our 3rd war in Iran.
Israel is pushing us into it hard. Bush is puching for it. Iran is actually backing down. The US population doesn't want it. The only thing that'd get us into this 3rd war would be a convenient terror attack.
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bb, reasoning w the mentally challenged is akin to banging one's head against a brick wall.
Well, I'm not going to call 240 mentally challenged, but I do feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. :)
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draft=communism plain and simple.
i am on the n.e.t teams for a certain government agency and if someone doesent want to fight they wont fight this is from experience which i will not bore you with unless you really want to know. this isn't the 60's anymore their wont be hippies this time there will be an uprise and this country will come under siege by its own people and all of you who support this will say"oh shit who could have ever imagined this happening".
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maybe "mentally challenged" wasn't the right term, but i think the way he reasons indicates an advanced neurosis.
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To question your govt is not unpatriotic, and I feel sorry for you if you believe this is the case.
Truer words have never been spoken. Unfortunately, that seems to be the prevailing attitude amongst the conformist, treasonous Republicult nowadays.
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Nothing unpatriotic at all about questioning the government.
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Nothing unpatriotic at all about questioning the government.
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I question the honesty of the govt in the explanation of the events of 911. I feel another investigation is necessary.
That's not unpatriotic of me, is it?
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I question the honesty of the govt in the explanation of the events of 911. I feel another investigation is necessary.
That's not unpatriotic of me, is it?
no, dear . . . and that's why you're allowed to continue posting your drivel. :)
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no, dear . . . and that's why you're allowed to continue posting your drivel. :)
Amen.
Now... Algebra... what do you think the US should have done when the Taliban offered to deliver Osama, if we jsut provided some proof he was involved?
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taking a good look at what this government has done for its soldiers after the wars were fought, it really leaves a shitty taste in my mouth...
I would fight not for my country but for my fellow man living in the country that i live...F ck the government that is now constantly f king over its citizens...
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You all completely misunderstood the point of the bill. It was introduced by a Democrat to protest the war in Iraq. It is not a serious bill. ::)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041006-012158-2811r.htm
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You all completely misunderstood the point of the bill. It was introduced by a Democrat to protest the war in Iraq. It is not a serious bill. ::)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041006-012158-2811r.htm
Your article is 2 years old. This draft bill was introduced Feb 14, 2006 7 months ago
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jag,
we need more of you around here. Something it's a 6 to 1 sheep to patriot ratio here.
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You got Berserker. He's like 3 patriots rolled into one. :)
Besides, I'm a Canuck who pees sitting down. People automatically get their backs up, and that's not too conducive to them actually examining anything put forth. Keep fighting the good fight Rob. In the end, ...they'll thank you for it. ...if they haven't hung, drawn, quartered, tarred & feathered you by then. ;)
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You got Berserker. He's like 3 patriots rolled into one. :)
and all 3 patriots put together would have an IQ of 80 . . . sad
should I go out? . . . I'm feeling kinda lazy after watching football for 12 hours.
maybe I can save the environment by not starting up my gas guzzler . . .
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You got Berserker. He's like 3 patriots rolled into one. :)
Besides, I'm a Canuck who pees sitting down. People automatically get their backs up, and that's not too conducive to them actually examining anything put forth. Keep fighting the good fight Rob. In the end, ...they'll thank you for it. ...if they haven't hung, drawn, quartered, tarred & feathered you by then. ;)
Patriot? All I see are anti-government posts screaming conspiracy for damn near everything......I think it time for you (well not you, you're Canadian) and the rest of the anti-government crew to re-evaluate their patriotism. Remember, were the good guys?
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Patriot? All I see are anti-government posts screaming conspiracy for damn near everything......I think it time for you (well not you, you're Canadian) and the rest of the anti-government crew to re-evaluate their patriotism. Remember, were the good guys?
The ? mark at the end betrays your uncertainty. That's a good thing. :)
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The ? mark at the end betrays your uncertainty. That's a good thing. :)
Oh, believe me, I KNOW we're the good guys.....it's the rest of the anti-government, conspiracy theorists I question!
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s'funny how haguar wants to be an american so bad . . . but she couldn't hang . . . she'd probably run off to Oregon to join the hippies and grow dreadlocks.
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To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. (1918)
Theodore Roosevelt
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s'funny how haguar wants to be an american so bad . . . but she couldn't hang . . . she'd probably run off to Oregon to join the hippies and grow dreadlocks.
Or Seattle.....there's a freaking Starbucks or Seattles Best on every corner..LOL!
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Patriot? All I see are anti-government posts screaming conspiracy for damn near everything......I think it time for you (well not you, you're Canadian) and the rest of the anti-government crew to re-evaluate their patriotism. Remember, were the good guys?
99.9% of the US population and govt are good guys. I love my country.
Are we the 'good guys' when we torture prisoners?
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Or Seattle.....there's a freaking Starbucks or Seattles Best on every corner..LOL!
you need your coffee when you stay up till 7 am everday posting on message boards and reading weird crap that 240's little bros upload to the net each night.
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Are we the 'good guys' when we torture prisoners?
how about when you torture us w your crappy rhetoric?
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To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. (1918)
Theodore Roosevelt
Damn Rob, It's one thing to critisize the President, I even do it on occation.....but for everything and to accuse him and his cabinete of conspiracies like being in on taking down the WTC's? Next to spying, I can't really think of anything else that would be considered treason!
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Your article is 2 years old. This draft bill was introduced Feb 14, 2006 7 months ago
Are you slow? This bill was introduced by the same Democrat (Chuck Rangel) who authored the first draft bill back in 2003. Rangel's bill is completely meaningless and will probably never be voted on. Monster understanding of how the American legislative process works.
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99.9% of the US population and govt are good guys. I love my country.
Are we the 'good guys' when we torture prisoners?
Dammit, were not fighting a military.....we're fighting "people" who have absolutly no reguard for human life in any way, shape or form...fuck em.....before they fuck us >:(
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Are you slow?
classic rhetorical question
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I would like a new 911 investigation.
There are holes in the Official story.
If you research it, we've been lied to a lot by this administration.
I do not believe them when they tell me that terrorists are any different than special forces from an organized country. I cannot believe that Kalid Sheik mohammaed would stand up to torture any better than a good US soldier.
Please convince me why terrorists need to have car batteries hooked to their genitals in order to give us info. Convince me why a human being from an evil group like Al Q is any different than a human being from N Korea.
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Oh, believe me, I KNOW we're the good guys.....it's the rest of the anti-government, conspiracy theorists I question!
Keep in mind that the conspiracy theorists - or put more accurately, 911 skeptics - simply want one thing: A new 911 Investigation.
The last one was underfunded, rushed, and incomplette, according to the men on the 911 Commission and the 911 widows alike. Because such a major US event - the worst in history - received such a small and incomplete investigation, there are many questions which people have. In fact, there are tens of millions of people in the US alone who, because of this lack of information, believe the US govt has a hand in covering up the events of this day.
A more complete 911 investigation could fix this. Answer the unanswered questions - it's the least we owe to the families of the 3000 dead Americans and the 3000+ dead soldiers from the wars that 911 has began.
Joe, for the unity of our country, would you support a new 911 Investigation? Not to accuse anyone, but to analyze the physical evendence and day's timeline in order to develop more complete answers.
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Joe, for the unity of our country, would you support a new 911 Investigation?
ROMBedLMAO . . . . are we about to have a civil war?
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ROMBedLMAO . . . . are we about to have a civil war?
Of course not. But in case you are unaware of the political climate, it has become VERY hostile lately. The basis for this hostility is the war, and the justification of the war.
You don't have to believe me, go look at the polls. Huge national divide which isn't healthy.
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Joe, for the unity of our country, would you support a new 911 Investigation? Not to accuse anyone, but to analyze the physical evendence and day's timeline in order to develop more complete answers.
Absolutly, and when the Sears tower gets leveled when a liberal is in office, I think the Conservatives should pound on that President just as hard as the liberals did with Bush because it's enevidable that we're going to get hit again and i'd bet my left nut the liberals would love that!!
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Of course not. But in case you are unaware of the political climate, it has become VERY hostile lately. The basis for this hostility is the war, and the justification of the war.
You don't have to believe me, go look at the polls. Huge national divide which isn't healthy.
I believe the Presidents approval has jumped to about 47%.....
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Absolutly, and when the Sears tower gets leveled when a liberal is in office, I think the Conservatives should pound on that President just as hard as the liberals did with Bush because it's enevidable that we're going to get hit again and i'd bet my left nut the liberals would love that!!
the sears tower is getting leveled? how come I didn't get that memo?
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the sears tower is getting leveled? how come I didn't get that memo?
Just picking a landmark, but there has been some mention of it!
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Absolutly, and when the Sears tower gets leveled when a liberal is in office, I think the Conservatives should pound on that President just as hard as the liberals did with Bush because it's enevidable that we're going to get hit again and i'd bet my left nut the liberals would love that!!
We are in 100% agreement! :)
A lot of the reason that Bush got pounded so hard, as any prez of either party would, is that he fought against any investigation. They have reconstructured every plane crash, terror or accident, in history. They test for explosive agents in building collapses - this is standard procedure too. And when two parties give conflicting info on the stand- like FAA and NORAD did in the investigation, they are typically questioned on the discrepency. THIS is why people are suspicious.
Joe, I PRAY that 911 wasn't an inside job. I try like crazy to be convinced. The the statistical probabilities of every event happening as it did is just insane. Add to that, the fact that the motive worked very well for the WH. Add to that the refusal to investigate, and you really see why people want more info on that day.
And the Presiden't approval rating has jumped back up, and that is good. But if 53 people out of 100 don't approve of the man in charge, when it was way higher before, there has to be a reason.
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The other prob is credibility. When Bush went on the news and said that miami 7 (or wahtever the number) was going to level the sears tower a few months back, it came at just the right time to boost Bush's wiretap agenda.
When the guys got to court, it turned out they were nearly retarded. I mean, they were the perfect patsies. The informant did all the planning, and there morons just nodded along. Instead of telling us this, we were told "this attack woudl have been the greatest in US history, etc etc".
The word is fearmongering. Bush does it. Clinton did the opposite - he denied any danger at all. Both methods are wrong, and both are used to further their agendas.
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Well, since women demanded equality, then they should be equally killed: a woman's life is not more valuable than a man's. The military draft is counter-productive. A professional army, which is highly trained, motivated and specialized, works much better than one composed of untrained, unmotivated civilians. Regardless, the military draft is the ultimate insult to a free society. If your very life is deemed to be disposable by the government, then all other minor rights it "grants" you dont mean anything.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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it could be nothing, but the weekend news cycle has focused on the draft a lot. The last 2 weeks, the weekend news agenda has "softened" ppl up a bit for the admin to push an issue the next week.
Last week it was like that for the torture. Thee 2 weeks before, the patriotic/questioning WH was the chatter. So, if someone fromt he white house dose float it this week, ye shall be ready!
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No offence honestly, but I believe some of you would let our government put you in a camps if they said it was the right thing to do. :P
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No offence honestly, but I believe some of you would let our government put you in a camps if they said it was the right thing to do. :P
Going to the camps would be patriotic. To call the camps evil = treason.
Waking up this morning, i cannot believe it was said that linking Bush to 911 inside job is treasonous - but his likely being involved in the coverup... is that 'being a strong leader'? lol....
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Don't worry..I'll make sure to volunteer for a camp Comandant job..all liberal getbiggers will be shipped to it. 240 will be forced to entertain us nightly with conspiracy stories...Berserker will have to actually come up with the chicks he posts..we'll have em shipped in....Jag..well I plan on shooting at her with a paint ball gun from my balcony every morning..if she keeps her anti American crap up i'll freeze em.
I don't want a draft because most of our youth are worthless and if i was drafted i wouldn't feel to compelled to do a thing unless..my ability to get a federal or state job was put in jeopardy..no pell grants..of federal college loan programs..tax penalties etc....There would have to be major punitive measures beyond what you woul face UCMJ wise in the service in order to get people to do anything.
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Don't worry..I'll make sure to volunteer for a camp Comandant job..all liberal getbiggers will be shipped to it. 240 will be forced to entertain us nightly with conspiracy stories...Berserker will have to actually come up with the chicks he posts..we'll have em shipped in....Jag..well I plan on shooting at her with a paint ball gun from my balcony every morning..if she keeps her anti American crap up i'll freeze em.
I don't want a draft because most of our youth are worthless and if i was drafted i wouldn't feel to compelled to do a thing unless..my ability to get a federal or state job was put in jeopardy..no pell grants..of federal college loan programs..tax penalties etc....There would have to be major punitive measures beyond what you woul face UCMJ wise in the service in order to get people to do anything.
this is a great all-around post. ;D
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I didn't want to volunteer anybody else for jobs in the camp because of the possibl incendiary nature of "camps" but i promise if u ll want jobs cool uniforms..sam brown belts ..peaked caps.. knee high boot and if beserker coms through..hot chicks for everybody...except the inmates..berserker gets sloppy seconds for recruiting ;D
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Jag..well I plan on shooting at her with a paint ball gun from my balcony every morning.
Well at least you guys are consistent. American soldiers in Afghanistan shooting Canadians is nothing new.
if she keeps her anti American crap up i'll freeze em.
Oh shut up and grow a brain! >:(
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Posted By: SCRIBE
Date: Tuesday, 6 June 2006, 7:45 p.m.
This bill has been introduced by Rep Charles Rangel [NY-15] three times now since 2003 (2003, 2005, 2006).
In 2003, it went to a vote in the House( but NOT in the Senate).
IT GOT 2 "YEA" (FOR) VOTES.
IT GOT 402 "NEA" (AGAINST) VOTES.
In 2005 + 2006, it has ONLY been introduced in the House (NO Senate Companion Bill), and it has seen NO ACTION WHATSOEVER!
In 2005 it had 1 Co-Sponsor. In 2006, it has NO Co-Sponsors.
THIS BILL WILL NEVER GO ANYWHERE, BECAUSE ONLY Rep. Charles Rangel IS FOR IT!
IT IS A DEAD ISSUE!!!!!!!!
PS jags you need to lighten up on HH6 when he is making a joke you take it way to strong.
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I was refrencing Shindlers List..Jag I could always change it to a Remington 700. AS..your the dog handler..guess who u get to play with all day :P
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PS jags you need to lighten up on HH6 when he is making a joke you take it way to strong.
The truth hurts huh? :P
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I was refrencing Shindlers List..Jag I could always change it to a Remington 700. AS..your the dog handler..guess who u get to play with all day :P
remember B.R.A.S.S. ;D
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Just picking a landmark, but there has been some mention of it!
you mean mentioned by the republicans ;)
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Posted By: SCRIBE
Date: Tuesday, 6 June 2006, 7:45 p.m.
This bill has been introduced by Rep Charles Rangel [NY-15] three times now since 2003 (2003, 2005, 2006).
In 2003, it went to a vote in the House( but NOT in the Senate).
IT GOT 2 "YEA" (FOR) VOTES.
IT GOT 402 "NEA" (AGAINST) VOTES.
In 2005 + 2006, it has ONLY been introduced in the House (NO Senate Companion Bill), and it has seen NO ACTION WHATSOEVER!
In 2005 it had 1 Co-Sponsor. In 2006, it has NO Co-Sponsors.
THIS BILL WILL NEVER GO ANYWHERE, BECAUSE ONLY Rep. Charles Rangel IS FOR IT!
IT IS A DEAD ISSUE!!!!!!!!
PS jags you need to lighten up on HH6 when he is making a joke you take it way to strong.
And everyone thinks this bill was in there because bush and the republicans introduced it. Rangel is a dumb a**!!!
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And everyone thinks this bill was in there because bush and the republicans introduced it. Rangel is a dumb a**!!!
I like Charlie Rangel. He's funny.
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I like Charlie Rangel. He's funny.
Me too.