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Title: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on September 16, 2006, 02:41:30 PM
1) Will they really suspend him for doing the Pro Division show?

and if they do

2) What are the secrets he will be spilling once his IFBB career IS over?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: GHGut on September 16, 2006, 02:49:56 PM
Yes.

Now riddle me this Batman...
Will they let him compete if Lee gets himself an attorney and threatens to sue?

Any predictions guys?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: onlyme on September 16, 2006, 02:52:59 PM
Yes.

Now riddle me this Batman...
Will they let him compete if Lee gets himself an attorney and threatens to sue?

Any predictions guys?

GH in the audience did you recognize any foreign IFBB promoters or officials.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: GHGut on September 16, 2006, 03:10:35 PM
GH in the audience did you recognize any foreign IFBB promoters or officials.

There were a bunch of sheiks or something wearing white turbans and sunglasses and carrying around briefcases that I think I saw stacks of cash in (?!). About ten of them all in a row.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: GHGut on September 16, 2006, 03:12:57 PM
There were a bunch of sheiks or something wearing white turbans and sunglasses and carrying around briefcases that I think I saw stacks of cash in (?!). About ten of them all in a row.

Go figure.


Just kidding. No mysterious men with cases of cash. But I wouldn't know who to recognize as a European promotor or money man to begin with.

All I know if Dave Palumbo isn't there, and he's at EVERY show.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: onlyme on September 16, 2006, 03:35:05 PM
Just kidding. No mysterious men with cases of cash. But I wouldn't know who to recognize as a European promotor or money man to begin with.

All I know if Dave Palumbo isn't there, and he's at EVERY show.

Well I'm sure Dave is still hoping to get a Pro card from the IFBB
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Big N on September 16, 2006, 03:36:34 PM
I honestly think Lee would care less at this point he has too much stuff going on for himself and he's been in the game for years to cry over IFBB when he especially doesnt agree with their "contracts"

or what do YOU say Chic



 
;)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: GHGut on September 16, 2006, 03:39:10 PM
I honestly think Lee would care less at this point he has too much stuff going on for himself and he's been in the game for years to cry over IFBB when he especially doesnt agree with their "contracts"

or what do YOU say Chic



 
;)

Let's see if Vinny and others suddenly get pro-cards. Imagine if they do and you're a competitor...Imagine if they don't and they could have made some money today in NY.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Big N on September 16, 2006, 03:40:45 PM
Let's see if Vinny and others suddenly get pro-cards. Imagine if they do and you're a competitor...Imagine if they don't and they could have made some money today in NY.



Good point bro
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Miss Karen on September 16, 2006, 03:46:06 PM
As with the Drug testing so is competing,judging,guest posing or promoting any other Organization You will be suspended or banned from IFBB.It's in the Rules.So Lee is gone and he knew and didn't care.More Power to him.Oh by the way he Won NOC PDI.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Ron on September 16, 2006, 03:52:30 PM
Quote
1) Will they really suspend him for doing the Pro Division show?

It seems pretty clear from the myriad of posts here that Lee will be suspended from the IFBB come Monday morning.


Quote
2) What are the secrets he will be spilling once his IFBB career IS over?


Lee has never been one to shy away from any discussion.  But as one bodybuilder told me - don't crack a cane in a glass house.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: knny187 on September 16, 2006, 04:01:37 PM
Goooooo LEE!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on September 16, 2006, 04:05:31 PM
Let's see if Vinny and others suddenly get pro-cards. Imagine if they do and you're a competitor...Imagine if they don't and they could have made some money today in NY.


Plus - those 3 guys showed the world they have no honor. they showed the npc and ifbb that they could care less about them. then they showed they can go back on a contract.  and their probly sitting at home tonight feeling stupid, knowing that theyll never have a pro card now and theyll always know they had a chance and didnt have the guts.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: stuntmovie on September 16, 2006, 04:08:25 PM
Lee will have to be suspended as a "fair warning" to the other IFBB pros and those who intend in excell in the IFBB ranks in the future.

The possible legal implications could be very interesting though. But I doubt that anyone will press the issue in that direction.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 16, 2006, 04:24:27 PM
Stick a Fork in him. ::)
"Hello, Kentucky Fried!" :o
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 04:31:13 PM
Of course he'll be suspended...that was never in question.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Wombat on September 16, 2006, 04:32:23 PM
Stick a Fork in him. ::)
"Hello, Kentucky Fried!" :o

the funny thing you don't know about Lee is, that he wanted to take a year off anyway...So he didn't it the hard way...He will do one more PDI contest and then its a year off to race and what not...When he comes back to the IFBB, his fan base will have grown almost two fold....gaining respect from many overseas...
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: hifrommike on September 16, 2006, 04:33:05 PM
Lee doesn't need the IFBB.  I'm not sure anyone does anymore. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 16, 2006, 04:35:41 PM
Shawn and Chick appearing together to bash the PDI at once....

things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmm ;)

Anyway, to shawn and chic, it's been monster positive in here today.  For IFBB greats like the two of you to come in here and say anything negative about the PDI only legitimizes it as a real threat.  We don't hear yall trashing NABBA, etc.  But when we hear shots at the PDI, it does make yall look nervous. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 16, 2006, 04:38:29 PM
240, your a first rate Clown!
For us to come here?
Ah at last check, its a BBing Board you moron!
I've been here 5 years plus son.
I responded to the question, so did Bob.
So let me get this straight, YOU'RE the ONLY ONE Who can reply to other people's questions.
Go play on the freeway.
God Bless you. ;D
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: The Master on September 16, 2006, 04:40:02 PM
240, your a first rate Clown!
For us to come here?
Ah at last check, its a BBing Board you moron!
I've been here 5 years plus son.
I responded to the question, so did Bob.
So let me get this straight, YOU'RE the ONLY ONE Who can reply to other people's questions.
Go play on the freeway.
God Bless you. ;D



How is your mother doing? Is she keeping off those pounds naturally?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 16, 2006, 04:46:14 PM
Thanks for asking, she says hello :-*
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: The Master on September 16, 2006, 04:47:49 PM
Thanks for asking, she says hello :-*

DAMN, getting off coke was NOT a smart move for her.

But props to her for doing the time and cleaning up her life. I'm sure Alexx can give her some fitness tips.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: myt1 on September 16, 2006, 04:48:19 PM
Thanks for asking, she says hello :-*

Looks like she didn't learn her lesson about having crack in the trunk.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 16, 2006, 04:48:41 PM
Ah at last check, its a BBing Board you moron!

Shawn, you're a real class act.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 16, 2006, 04:55:23 PM
GH in the audience did you recognize any foreign IFBB promoters or officials.
Who were the people you said we all would be VERY surprised to see at this show, in the audience??? This was supposed to be a shocker according to you.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: coolioni on September 16, 2006, 04:57:34 PM
what exactly happened here ?
What did Lee do ?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: IceCold on September 16, 2006, 05:05:36 PM
lee should def. be suspended.

everyone is tired of his shit. 

why would he compete in the PDI?  just to stir shit.  what a fucking idiot.  he would gain nothing by doing the show.  dont know what the prize money is - it cant be that much- and twin lab probably wont renew his contract when he's suspended, not competiting.  we all know how lee looks when he's not doing a show. 

between this last stund and him constanly fucking over promoters.  enough is enough.

its a shame bc he used to be a great bber. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:12:10 PM
I mean the IFBB doesn't pay his salary nor do they sponsor him


That's really the key here.  I really don't see how they have the right to tell him what he can or can't do outside of an IFBB event.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: IceCold on September 16, 2006, 05:15:26 PM

That's really the key here.  I really don't see how they have the right to tell him what he can or can't do outside of an IFBB event.


bc when you have a pro card, you have to pay a fee every year to keep it active and allow you to compete.  that's why ken jones and jocelyn peliter (sp?) are still allowed to competed. 

when you pay, i'm sure there is something in there that says you can only do IFBB shows. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:17:13 PM
Funny how they suspend him for that but no one gets suspended for drug use (as it clearly states in the IFBB rule book).....talk about hypocrisy!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 16, 2006, 05:20:31 PM
Funny how they suspend him for that but no one gets suspended for drug use (as it clearly states in the IFBB rule book).....talk about hypocrisy!
Maybe the PDI will be better and suspend him for drug use. Isn't there supposed to be drug testing at the NOC? It was in the email Chick posted.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:20:39 PM
Funny how they suspend him for that but no one gets suspended for drug use.....talk about hypocrisy!

That's why he could try to sue... inconsistency in applying the rules.  If he does, look for the IFBB to react very much the way they reacted to Jay Cutler's threat to sue them. The last thing they want or need is a public spotlight shining into the IFBB, and a messy court case, win or lose, would all but guarantee that.  ;)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:21:06 PM
or porn. 

I'm sure Chic won't respond to this!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Wombat on September 16, 2006, 05:21:22 PM
lee should def. be suspended.

everyone is tired of his shit. 

why would he compete in the PDI?  just to stir shit.  what a fucking idiot.  he would gain nothing by doing the show.  dont know what the prize money is - it cant be that much- and twin lab probably wont renew his contract when he's suspended, not competiting.  we all know how lee looks when he's not doing a show. 

between this last stund and him constanly fucking over promoters.  enough is enough.

its a shame bc he used to be a great bber. 


Used to be a great bber?  I think its safe to say that Lee still is a great BBuilder and he is one that will not wreck his look....No palumboism in sight for Lee Preist...
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:25:26 PM
Funny how they suspend him for that but no one gets suspended for drug use (as it clearly states in the IFBB rule book).....talk about hypocrisy!

People have been suspended for drug use...and are still subject to testing and suspention, if they fail the test...

Thye porn stuff is clearly spelled out in the code of conduct...it is a series of "ideals" that one should try and follow and uphold...they are not the rules, even though they can be enforced.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:26:49 PM
...they are not the rules, even though they can be enforced.

That makes sense.



Anyone want to point out the oxymoron to Chick?  ::)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:27:19 PM
I really wish Bob would have pulled for Lee on his show.  He is not hurting the IFBB or any athletes by doing this and other sports do not care.  For example, football with the NFL and players doing the CFL.

What do you mean "Pull for Lee"? And do what, exactly?? This has nothing to do with anything the IFBB rep can do...it's LEE'S decision...he is quite aware of the rules.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: knny187 on September 16, 2006, 05:27:52 PM
That makes sense.



Anyone want to point out the oxymoron to Chick?  ::)

agree...it makes no sense
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:29:14 PM
People have been suspended for drug use...and are still subject to testing and suspention, if they fail the test...

Thye porn stuff is clearly spelled out in the code of conduct...it is a series of "ideals" that one should try and follow and uphold...they are not the rules, even though they can be enforced.

C'mon...when was the last time the winner of an IFBB show was tested??
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:30:02 PM
That makes sense.



Anyone want to point out the oxymoron to Chick?  ::)

EVERY sport has them...not just BB, or the IFBB specifically. "conduct unbecoming", "substance abuse", etc...are all part of those enforcable rules in sports, even though they have nothing to do with the "rules" of baseball, football, etc....

Use your head....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:30:57 PM
EVERY sport has them...not just BB, or the IFBB specifically. "conduct unbecoming", "substance abuse", etc...are all part of those enforcable rules in sports, even though they have nothing to do with the "rules" of baseball, football, etc....

Use your head....

If something can be enforced, it is by definition a "rule".  ::)

Use a dictionary....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:32:13 PM
C'mon...when was the last time the winner of an IFBB show was tested??

Don't know and don't care...not my job. Why would the athletes be complaining about NOT being tested?

The onus is on the IFBB to impose testing...If they elect not to....great.

Come on guys...this aint rocket science.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:32:42 PM
EVERY sport has them...not just BB, or the IFBB specifically. "conduct unbecoming", "substance abuse", etc...are all part of those enforcable rules in sports, even though they have nothing to do with the "rules" of baseball, football, etc....

Use your head....

True, but in EVERY sport those rules are ENFORCED!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:34:49 PM
If something can be enforced, it is by definition a "rule".  ::)

Use a dictionary....

There is a difference...the code of conduct is CLEARLY laid out as a "series of beliefs"...not rules.

Try and know what youre talking about....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:35:21 PM
I forgot to add that BODYBUILDING IS NOT A SPORT!












Carry on!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:37:51 PM
This would really show a lack of consistency and credibility on the part of the IFBB and they would lose in litigation with the right attorney.

It doesn't matter whether they win or lose, all that matters is if Lee's attorney can bootstrap enough argument together to get it past a summary judgement to a trial.  The IFBB does NOT want its dirty laundry aired in public.  You think this wouldn't make Court TV?  No, if Lee pushes it, the IFBB will back down once they get through blustering and take a step back and really evaluate their position... just like they did with Jay. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Butterbean on September 16, 2006, 05:38:45 PM
Of course he'll be suspended...that was never in question.

Bob, I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere, but how long will Lee be suspended? 

If there is not a specified time limit, are there criteria he can meet to compete in the IFBB again?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:39:56 PM
There is a difference...the code of conduct is CLEARLY laid out as a "series of beliefs"...not rules.

Try and know what youre talking about....


You're splitting hairs... if you can be sanctioned for something, it's a rule.  Call it a "series of beliefs", "code of conduct", "law", "suggestion", whatthefucckever, if you pay a penalty for breaking it, it has the effect of a RULE, period.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:43:44 PM

You're splitting hairs... if you can be sanctioned for something, it's a rule.  Call it a "series of beliefs", "code of conduct", "law", "suggestion", whatthefucckever, if you pay a penalty for breaking it, it has the effect of a RULE, period.

I'm not splitting hairs...I'm explaining to you that there IS a difference...a BIG ONE>

The RULES clearly state that you cannot compete for a rival federation, or you WILL be suspended. This particular rule has been enforced 100% of the time, without exception.

The code of Conduct SUGGESTS that you refrain from certain activity, porno, talking trash about the judging, other athletes, etc....and has been enforced by way of warnings, letters of apology, etc...a HANDFUL of times...
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 16, 2006, 05:46:32 PM

You're splitting hairs... if you can be sanctioned for something, it's a rule.  Call it a "series of beliefs", "code of conduct", "law", "suggestion", whatthefucckever, if you pay a penalty for breaking it, it has the effect of a RULE, period.
Goat, these IFBB 'rules' are all 'eton' school laws -ie. meant to be observed by the spirit of the law, not the rule of law. These guys, Chickster included, break drug laws every single day, so the last thing they want is any legal spotlight on this. Keeping in house is what they want so Lee just has to push a tad and they will crumble, lest their own sordid laundry is exposed.


Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: sgt. d on September 16, 2006, 05:47:04 PM
Sorry Goatboy , Chick is right. I see that you dislike him for other reasons but facts are facts.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:47:20 PM
I'm not splitting hairs...I'm explaining to you that there IS a difference...a BIG ONE>

The RULES clearly state that you cannot compete for a rival federation, or you WILL be suspended. This particular rule has been enforced 100% of the time, without exception.

The code of Conduct SUGGESTS that you refrain from certain activity, porno, talking trash about the judging, other athletes, etc....and has been enforced by way of warnings, letters of apology, etc...a HANDFUL of times...

How 'bout the RULES against drug use?

Or are those "suggestions" too?  ::)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
Goat, these IFBB 'rules' are all 'eton' school laws -ie. meant to be observed by the spirit of the law, not the rule of law. These guys, Chickster included, break drug laws every single day, so the last thing they want is any legal spotlight on this. Keeping in house is what they want so Lee just has to push a tad and they will crumble, lest their own sordid laundry is exposed.





I completely agree.  ;D

It doesn't matter whether they win or lose, all that matters is if Lee's attorney can bootstrap enough argument together to get it past a summary judgement to a trial.  The IFBB does NOT want its dirty laundry aired in public.  You think this wouldn't make Court TV?  No, if Lee pushes it, the IFBB will back down once they get through blustering and take a step back and really evaluate their position... just like they did with Jay. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: knny187 on September 16, 2006, 05:54:36 PM
EVERY sport has them...not just BB, or the IFBB specifically. "conduct unbecoming", "substance abuse", etc...are all part of those enforcable rules in sports, even though they have nothing to do with the "rules" of baseball, football, etc....

Use your head....


I guess sticking a needle full of illegal drugs in your ass & performing gay for pay is not considered conduct unbecoming.

Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:55:22 PM
EVERY sport has them...not just BB, or the IFBB specifically. "conduct unbecoming", "substance abuse", etc...are all part of those enforcable rules in sports, even though they have nothing to do with the "rules" of baseball, football, etc....

Use your head....

You cannot possibly lump in baseball, football, etc with bodybuilding, thats obsured, thats like saying bodybuilding is a mainstream sport. One of the things that makes the other sports legit is the enforcement of the rules that were written, if the rules in the mainstream sports were not enforced it would ruin the integrity of that particular sport and it's industry.....bodybuildin g shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as baseball, football or anyother legit sport!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 05:55:56 PM
If Lee wanted to challenge thee "no compete" rule in the court of law..thats his prerogative (like Bobby Brown)....

Nothing other than that would/ could be used as it would be ruled irrelevant to HIS case...whether or not the IFBB chooses to drug test, etc...would have no bearing on his case.

What would be relevant to his case, would be a precedent in cases similar to his...other athletes that were NOT suspended while breaking the same rules...on that note, he doesn't have a strong case...when as recent as 1992, ALL IFBB athletes that went and competed in the WBF were suspended immediately.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 05:59:53 PM
If Lee wanted to challenge thee "no compete" rule in the court of law..thats his prerogative (like Bobby Brown)....

Nothing other than that would/ could be used as it would be ruled irrelevant to HIS case...whether or not the IFBB chooses to drug test, etc...would have no bearing on his case.

What would be relevant to his case, would be a precedent in cases similar to his...other athletes that were NOT suspended while breaking the same rules...on that note, he doesn't have a strong case...when as recent as 1992, ALL IFBB athletes that went and competed in the WBF were suspended immediately.

Bad suggestion, if he did that, that would open a can of worms so big it just might legally ruin the industry as a whole if a DA decides to open an investigation!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 06:04:00 PM
Bad suggestion, if he did that, that would open a can of worms so big it just might legally ruin the industry as a whole if a DA decides to open an investigation!

That's the whole point... if Lee is kicked out of the IFBB, he has nothing to lose, and he's just crazy enough to do it. Weider & Manion know this.  Despite the bluster of their message-board mouthpiece, if Lee decides to push it, the IFBB will back down in the end.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: divcom on September 16, 2006, 06:05:25 PM
Shawn, you're a real class act.

Jack Off!  You dropped someone's personal info on the BS board.  You're the reall class act.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Has Beens on September 16, 2006, 06:06:19 PM
Honestly, how does an athlete hurt the IFBB by competing in another organization ?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: nycbull on September 16, 2006, 06:06:48 PM
They won't suspend him, he is too well known and too many fans like him. Brings in money to the IFBB.
If they  do suspend him how long does a suspension last?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 06:06:58 PM
Dont count on it...the IFBB's pockets are much deeper than Lee's.

Bottom line is...why would Lee WANT to come back to the IFBB?? He clearly hates it...he has an opportunity to go and compete wherever he wants...no one is holding a gun to his head to stay.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 16, 2006, 06:08:02 PM
Honestly, how does an athlete hurt the IFBB by competing in another organization ?

It doesn't!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: MAXX on September 16, 2006, 06:09:51 PM
IFBB will lose alot of fans dropping Lee. To bad for them.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: the choad on September 16, 2006, 06:10:08 PM
Dont count on it...the IFBB's pockets are much deeper than Lee's.

Bottom line is...why would Lee WANT to come back to the IFBB?? He clearly hates it...he has an opportunity to go and compete wherever he wants...no one is holding a gun to his head to stay.

The IFBB needs Lee more than lee needs the IFBB..
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 16, 2006, 06:10:48 PM
If Lee wanted to challenge thee "no compete" rule in the court of law..thats his prerogative (like Bobby Brown)....

Nothing other than that would/ could be used as it would be ruled irrelevant to HIS case...whether or not the IFBB chooses to drug test, etc...would have no bearing on his case.

What would be relevant to his case, would be a precedent in cases similar to his...other athletes that were NOT suspended while breaking the same rules...on that note, he doesn't have a strong case...when as recent as 1992, ALL IFBB athletes that went and competed in the WBF were suspended immediately.

Now this is where a real smart lawyer could do some damage, by smartly allowing to be introduced some evidence, not unlike the 'rape' defence (now under fire) to look at backround incidences. I would also guess, unless he/she wanted to make a name for him/herself that a good lawyer would not be interested in taking up such a noisome case.  :-[ 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 06:13:49 PM
The IFBB needs Lee more than lee needs the IFBB..

How do you figure?

The IFBB has survived well past the retirements of Larry Scott, Arnold, Lee Haney, Dorian, Flex, Shawn, Gaspari, Ferrigno, etc, etc, .......
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Miss Karen on September 16, 2006, 06:15:24 PM
Rulz is Rulz drugs or no drugs that's not the point if you Compete Promote Judge or Guest pose in any other organization your suspended.FACT.What do you all care Lee knew this and he doesn't care he's $30000 richer today.Let the party begin.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 06:16:00 PM
Dont count on it...the IFBB's pockets are much deeper than Lee's.


Are they deeper than the Justice Department's?  Assistant US Attorneys just love getting their names in the papers with steroid cases right now, and Lee could go tell one of them everything he knows about the bodybuilding industry.  It wouldn't cost him a cent to do that. Then, if an investigation is opened, he can use that to get a mainstream reporter interested and spill his guts about everything from porn and gay-for-pay to drug dealing and bogus supplements.

Ben Weider's dreams of "respectability" shattered all in one fell swoop.  ;D
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 06:20:22 PM

Are they deeper than the Justice Department's?  Assistant US Attorneys just love getting their names in the papers with steroid cases right now, and Lee could go tell one of them everything he knows about the bodybuilding industry.  It wouldn't cost him a cent to do that. Then, if an investigation is opened, he can use that to get a mainstream reporter interested and spill his guts about everything from porn and gay-for-pay to drug dealing and bogus supplements.

Ben Weider's dreams of "respectability" shattered all in one fell swoop.  ;D

You've been watching too much Geraldo, bro...


CAP86-  You mean like last year? Or the year before??  Please.....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Wombat on September 16, 2006, 06:21:19 PM
How do you figure?

The IFBB has survived well past the retirements of Larry Scott, Arnold, Lee Haney, Dorian, Flex, Shawn, Gaspari, Ferrigno, etc, etc, .......

yes maybe however every single on the man you just mentioned have always had their hands into the pot "so to speak" after their retirement with the IFBB...They have been huge IFBB supporters...
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 06:23:01 PM
yes maybe however every single on the men you just mentioned have always had their hands into the pot "so to speak" after their retirement with the IFBB...They have been huge IFBB supporters...

'Cept for Lou...  he made Ben & Joe pay him $20 every time he said something nice about the IFBB.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 16, 2006, 06:26:20 PM
As I am guy, like the Chickster, who is past 40, and taking a few 'supplements' to keep 'in shape' I find his arguments that the fire is 'over there' -not there, there - but not 'here' amusing.  :)

/It's not the guy (Chick) we dislike, but the hypocrisy! I mean, c;mon, this is Getbig!

/well, sometimes it is the guy :) 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Chick on September 16, 2006, 06:28:29 PM
Yeah, well...IF my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt...where we going with this?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 06:33:58 PM
What about his penis?  Jk. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 16, 2006, 06:34:14 PM
Yeah, well...IF my uncle had tits, he'd be my aunt...where we going with this?
Probably everywhere but personal responsibility.  ::)

/the world surrenders
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: MAXX on September 16, 2006, 06:42:18 PM

pure gold. "say hello to my little friend" hahahah
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 16, 2006, 06:43:16 PM
Any lawyer could turn this into a winning case for Lee...

I don't know about that, but like I said, Lee doesn't have to win... all he has to do is throw enough shit to the wall in the right venue (like a public lawsuit) for the mainstream press to take notice. 

Weider won't risk it. He may be an old queen, but he's not an idiot.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 16, 2006, 06:57:46 PM
I don't know about that, but like I said, Lee doesn't have to win... all he has to do is throw enough shit to the wall in the right venue (like a public lawsuit) for the mainstream press to take notice. 

Weider won't risk it. He may be an old queen, but he's not an idiot.
The Chickster is right in one respect, spinning as he does: old stuff  really is out of bounds unless a good lawyer and Lee, malice aforethought;), can find a way allow it to be 'discovered' in court. Then, all bets are off.

/it's all about hypocrisy. can you face yours?  ??? i can. i'm built on it  :)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: bic_staedtler on September 16, 2006, 08:05:39 PM
Lee has no more 'secrets' than the next guy about bodybuilding, and if you've paid attention to his posts over the years you'd know that. 

IFBB rules that you MUST compete with them is lame.  Why?...this isn't the NFL people.  I can understand amateur "farm" style leagues that actually pay for travel and other expenses for it's athletes, but come on..this is the friggin IFBB we're talking about....remember?

Not only does Lee have no 'secrets' but in reality very few people really care anyway.  Let's be realistic here. 

If the IFBB suspends Priest, who gives a rat's ass.  Not Lee!  And not me.  Or Chick or Shawn for that matter. 

But I suppose we'd have nothing to very little to comment on if not for this lame excuse for 'rivalry'....I'm much more interested in how Jay Cutler is shaping up to be his all time best this 29th, not the PDI.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 16, 2006, 09:40:04 PM
Lee who.....................? :-\
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Miss Karen on September 16, 2006, 10:03:43 PM
Porn is punished just ask Rusty J.World Masters Pro 8th.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on September 16, 2006, 10:05:29 PM
Porn is punished just ask Rusty J.World Masters Pro 8th.

By those people that the IFBB know will never make an impact....LoL....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Wombat on September 16, 2006, 10:05:50 PM
Porn is punished just ask Rusty J.World Masters Pro 8th.

why give him a pro card at all then? :-\
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Karl Kox on September 17, 2006, 01:02:36 AM
Of course he'll be suspended...that was never in question.

for how long ?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: onlyme on September 17, 2006, 01:25:03 AM
The IFBB only enforces the rules that hurt them directly.  Lee competing in another organization hurts them directly.  It does everything not to promote the IFBB.   Taking roids and acting like assholes give them direct promotion and builds excitement.  They will never enforce a rule that affects their bottom dollar. You think they would ever uphold a steroid rule.  My god they would be out of business in week.  This is a fact and even Chic can't come up with a witty answer.  They could care less that all the steroids eventually kills their members.  As long as they can make a buck of it the better.  Wait till Arnold dies and they publish several collectors issues of FLEX and M&F.  They will make money of their members for as long as they can and not share a dime. 
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: gordiano on September 17, 2006, 01:27:25 AM
You cannot possibly lump in baseball, football, etc with bodybuilding, thats obsured, thats like saying bodybuilding is a mainstream sport. One of the things that makes the other sports legit is the enforcement of the rules that were written, if the rules in the mainstream sports were not enforced it would ruin the integrity of that particular sport and it's industry.....bodybuildin g shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as baseball, football or anyother legit sport!

Right.

I believe that it's because of the lack of mainstream acceptance and/or coverage, that the IFBB has gotten away with their blatant disregard of drug laws. If the IFBB were mainstream, they'd have a congressman on their asses, pushing them to clean up their act. So in essence, bbing as we know it today (drug use/abuse) has benefited from lack of exposure................ ...
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: HRDCOR on September 17, 2006, 04:17:07 AM
Quote
    GH in the audience did you recognize any foreign IFBB promoters or officials.                                         



STEVE WEENIBERG WAS THERE A SHAWN !!!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: jeffrey. on September 17, 2006, 04:39:29 AM
Lee who.....................? :-\
hey shawn,hasn't lee won more pro shows than you? ???
Title: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on September 17, 2006, 06:05:07 AM
When will Lee get his official suspension notice?
Title: Re: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: ether on September 17, 2006, 06:15:58 AM
Thanksgiving came early for the IFBB this year.

I'm sure Chick, Ray, Manion et al. are having a great time today!
Title: Re: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on September 17, 2006, 06:22:47 AM
Thanksgiving came early for the IFBB this year.

I'm sure Chick, Ray, Manion et al. are having a great time today!

Shawn just likes to make fun of any others to make himself feel better. He bashes Titus and Kamili more than the rest of us on here, and he's bashed Lee since this whole PDI thing started going down. If another Pro jumped on board, he would bash them too. Pretty much Shawn just bashes others.
Title: Re: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 17, 2006, 06:47:02 AM
They have an "office"?  ::)


I think their "office" consists of Manion sitting in his living room with a laptop and telephone.  ;)

its here in Montreal. Nice place.
Title: Re: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2006, 07:23:54 AM
They have an "office"?  ::)


I think their "office" consists of Manion sitting in his living room with a lapdog and telephone.  ;)
Title: Re: So is the IFBB office open on Sundays?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2006, 08:08:00 AM
Bob's hanging out in Manion's living room?

Sorry.  Fixed:

I think their "office" consists of Manion sitting in his bedroom with a lapdog and telephone.  ;)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Lee_a_priest on September 17, 2006, 03:48:37 PM
Thanks Shawn stop being so nignorant OH i mean ignorant :)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 17, 2006, 03:49:59 PM
Thanks Shawn stop being so nignorant OH i mean ignorant :)


At least Shawn has the professionalism not to go beat up on some kids for an easy payday. 


Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2006, 03:57:42 PM
At least Shawn has the professionalism not to go beat up on some kids for an easy payday. 

Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Disgusted on September 17, 2006, 03:59:56 PM


Touche   ;D
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: natural al on September 17, 2006, 04:01:44 PM
of course they will.  why even question it?  Look at thier track record.  All the WBF guys.  Ed Kawak and Olev Annus did the Nabba pro world a few years ago and got lifetime bans.

Lee will be suspended until they decide how much money they want him to pay to get back in, it'll be something outrageous just to make an example of him then he'll start loosing shows to guys he's obviously better than....just ask Aaron Baker about the 95 south beach pro and the ironman.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: torquemada on September 17, 2006, 04:08:02 PM
hey shawn,hasn't lee won more pro shows than you? ???

ow...feel the burn.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 17, 2006, 04:08:40 PM




Ok you win this round 240....forgot about that
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2006, 04:09:53 PM
ok you win this round 240....forgot about that

you just make sure to win some muscularity and symmtery rounds this weekend. I got $100 riding on ya!  Any 6-days out pics to show?  Abs cutting thru yet?
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 17, 2006, 04:17:06 PM
you just make sure to win some muscularity and symmtery rounds this weekend. I got $100 riding on ya!  Any 6-days out pics to show?  Abs cutting thru yet?


I have to go to the Olive Branch Facility to discuss some business with them.  I just tested their Spash of Sun Instant Tanning Spray w/ bronzer and I looked really good.  It's like Dream Tan but it gives a more richer color, better glow, no speckles in the mix, and at 11.99 its a great price.  So I'll send you some pictures at that time.


I'm also planning to purchase their tanning spray guns and intend on offering stage prep services for local competitors.  I hate sitting at a show not doing anything if I'm not competing so I may as well make some money
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2006, 04:27:47 PM
I'm also planning to purchase their tanning spray guns and intend on offering stage prep services for local competitors.  I hate sitting at a show not doing anything if I'm not competing so I may as well make some money

As you're hooking that up, see if they need a website!  I pay $25 for each person you send that buys a site :)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 17, 2006, 04:30:02 PM
As you're hooking that up, see if they need a website!  I pay $25 for each person you send that buys a site :)

They already have one
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: onlyme on September 17, 2006, 04:32:05 PM

I have to go to the Olive Branch Facility to discuss some business with them.  I just tested their Spash of Sun Instant Tanning Spray w/ bronzer and I looked really good.  It's like Dream Tan but it gives a more richer color, better glow, no speckles in the mix, and at 11.99 its a great price.  So I'll send you some pictures at that time.


I'm also planning to purchase their tanning spray guns and intend on offering stage prep services for local competitors.  I hate sitting at a show not doing anything if I'm not competing so I may as well make some money

When you meet with them Melvin, ask them if there is a way to get the oil to give you muscles, erase the fat and fix your mug.  Then you'd have an answer.  And aren't you still the fluffer backstage before the shows.  You said you were making almost $50 a night doing that.
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 17, 2006, 04:41:13 PM
When you meet with them Melvin, ask them if there is a way to get the oil to give you muscles, erase the fat and fix your mug.  Then you'd have an answer.  And aren't you still the fluffer backstage before the shows.  You said you were making almost $50 a night doing that.


I heard you make 500 dollars for every episode you fill in for Porky Pig on Looney Tunes when he's sick.  I'm not sure how you can squeeze your fat ass through the tunnel and say "That's all folks" but I'm sure its because of good camera work.....
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 17, 2006, 06:40:51 PM

I heard you make 500 dollars for every episode you fill in for Porky Pig on Looney Tunes when he's sick.  I'm not sure how you can squeeze your fat ass through the tunnel and say "That's all folks" but I'm sure its because of good camera work.....

jesus christ kid...when are you going to get hit by a fuckin truck already? you're a fucking door-knob.
(http://www.ustruck.com/images/white_truck.jpg)
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: muscleforlife on September 17, 2006, 06:54:43 PM
The hypocrisy in PAYING for your yearly IFBB card, then being told you can't earn money outside of any event sanctioned by this organization.....

I met someone last night who compared it to a pimp and his whore.  Go out there, get the fans, promoters, sponsors to spend money to see  the bodybuiler and use him/her to promote their products, bring in ticket sales, etc.  Like the whore, the pimp gets all of the money.  The whore gets maybe enough to eat and if you complain you get BITCHSLAPPED!
The IFBB Pimphand is strong.

Sandra
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on September 17, 2006, 06:57:33 PM
The hypocrisy in PAYING for your yearly IFBB card, then being told you can't earn money outside of any event sanctioned by this organization.....

I met someone last night who compared it to a pimp and his whore.  Go out there, get the fans, promoters, sponsors to spend money to see  the bodybuiler and use him/her to promote their products, bring in ticket sales, etc.  Like the whore, the pimp gets all of the money.  The whore gets maybe enough to eat and if you complain you get BITCHSLAPPED!
The IFBB Pimphand is strong.

Sandra

lol mac-daddy weider!
Title: Re: Predict - Will IFBB really suspend Priest?
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 17, 2006, 07:39:12 PM

I heard you make 500 dollars for every episode you fill in for Porky Pig on Looney Tunes when he's sick.  I'm not sure how you can squeeze your fat ass through the tunnel and say "That's all folks" but I'm sure its because of good camera work.....

 
That was a funny one vince i am cracking up.