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Title: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 21, 2006, 09:34:32 AM
Update #1]
IFBB President Ben Weider took the first step in a renewed fight against doping by officially signing the WADA Code Acceptance Form on November 12, 2003. In so doing, the IFBB became a Signatory to the WADA Code.

[Update #2]
From April 2004 to January 2005, the IFBB worked closely with WADA in order to conform the IFBB Anti-Doping Program to the provisions of the WADA Code. On January 26, 2005, WADA stated in part, " ... the rules as presented to us implement the Code as such for your amateur division ..." Thus, the next step in the process of full implementation of the WADA Code is complete.

[Update #3]
On November 27, 2005, at its annual general meeting in Shanghai, China, the IFBB Executive Council and IFBB International Congress amended the IFBB Constitution by inserting a new Article 22 on Doping:

22.1 Position Statement: The practice of sport involves physical health and fitness, dedication to training, and proper nutrition. Doping, which includes the use of Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods to artificially enhance performance, is unethical, contrary to the concept of fair play, undermines the values of sport, and can endanger the health of the athletes. The practice of doping is forbidden within the IFBB.

22.2 World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code: The IFBB officially recognizes the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) as the international authority in anti-doping matters. The IFBB is an official Signatory to the WADA Code and, by means of the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, conforms to the provisions of the WADA Code.

22.3 Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS): The IFBB officially recognizes the authority of the International Council of Arbitration for Sport (ICAS) and the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

Further, at this same meeting, the IFB Executive Council and IFBB International Congress adopted new IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and agreed to implement a new In- and Out-of-Competition doping control program as follows:

PROPOSITION #3 (Adopted)
Be it resolved that, in keeping with the decision made by the IFBB Executive Council on November 6, 2003, and by the IFBB Congress on November 9, 2003, in Mumbai, India; said decision which stated:

”Be it resolved that the IFBB shall take steps to adopt the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code. Further, once the WADA Code is formally adopted, the IFBB shall take whatever measures are necessary to ensure that its anti-doping program is in full compliance with the Code.”

the IFBB adopt the new IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, Version 1.0, and further, that said rules shall have force and effect as of January 1, 2006. *these Anti-Doping Rules are based on the WADA “Models of Best Practice” and are intended to replace the current IFBB Anti-Doping Program.

PROPOSITION #4 (Adopted)
Be it resolved that In-Competition testing be carried out as follows:

1. RANDOM:
A number of athletes selected at random during the Competition e.g. at Weigh-in.
2. WEIGHTED:
A number of athletes selected at random from among the Top Finalists e.g. at the Finals.

*Note: The IFBB reserves the right to conduct Target Testing

PROPOSITION #5 (Adopted)

Be in resolved that Out-of-Competition testing be carried out in 2007 from a Registered Athlete Testing Pool, said Pool which shall be established in 2006 from among the Top Finalists at all IFBB World Championships.

[Update #4]
On April 1, 2006, IFBB Anti-Doping Directive 2006-001 takes effect; the directive provides comprehensive guidelines on Result Management, Hearings and Appeals.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Joey Tito on September 21, 2006, 09:36:08 AM
Wait, Bob Chick ISN'T natural????

Oh God, I've been living a lie!
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Karl Kox on September 21, 2006, 09:43:03 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 21, 2006, 09:44:56 AM
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Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Chick on September 21, 2006, 09:48:16 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...

Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Hedgehog on September 21, 2006, 09:50:06 AM
Well TA.

Either you provide evidence of where Cicherillo tested positive for drugs, or you may be in trouble.

We all know the truth of course, not one single IFBB pro is natural.

But since the IFBB doesn't test their competitors, they don't get the evidence "necessary" to suspend them.

FYI, I believe the IFBB will be in shit loads of trouble once the WADA is having their funds in order, and will start to test every IFBB pro.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: dan18 on September 21, 2006, 09:50:47 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...


translation-I never got caught. ;)
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: tweeter on September 21, 2006, 09:51:11 AM
But by competing in the IFBB doesn't that create an inferred oath that you will follow their rules?
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: dan18 on September 21, 2006, 09:52:14 AM
Well TA.

Either you provide evidence of where Cicherillo tested positive for drugs, or you may be in trouble.

We all know the truth of course, not one single IFBB pro is natural.

But since the IFBB doesn't test their competitors, they don't get the evidence "necessary" to suspend them.

FYI, I believe the IFBB will be in shit loads of trouble once the WADA is having their funds in order, and will start to test every IFBB pro.

YIP
Zack
IF they start stricked testing all the pros will look like alexxx  ;D
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: John Romano on September 21, 2006, 09:53:17 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



Way to go, Bob!!
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 21, 2006, 09:53:33 AM
But by competing in the IFBB doesn't that create an inferred oath that you will follow their rules?

EXACTLY.
That is in the rules and a DIRECT VIOLATION.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Chick on September 21, 2006, 09:54:13 AM
Thanks, Johnny!! ;D
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 21, 2006, 09:54:58 AM
Way to go, Bob!!

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!   Classic!
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: leycus 101 on September 21, 2006, 09:55:17 AM
bob uses a diet rich in protein, and takes his multi vitamin suringe every morning and nite  ::)
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: John Romano on September 21, 2006, 09:57:32 AM
Thanks, Johnny!! ;D

Any time, Bro! ;D
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: myt1 on September 21, 2006, 09:58:54 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



Well ya don't get to be the IFBB Athlete's Rep without studying a lot ;D
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: irejistirred4deena on September 21, 2006, 10:01:09 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



lol
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: natural al on September 21, 2006, 10:21:28 AM
because the supplement companies wouldn't make as much $$$ if they marketed natural guys.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: figgs on September 21, 2006, 10:22:06 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



Bob, I'm quite curious about something. Are you confident that you would pass any randomly administered drug test?
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 21, 2006, 10:25:14 AM
Bob, I'm quite curious about something. Are you confident that you would pass any randomly administered drug test?

According to the rules they are supposed to start randomly testing year round in April 2007.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 21, 2006, 10:25:35 AM
Bob, I'm quite curious about something. Are you confident that you would pass any randomly administered drug test?

He'll never work in an environment were that's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: bic_staedtler on September 21, 2006, 10:26:04 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



...and you seriously wonder why bodybuilding isn't taken seriously AT ALL by all other major sports associations?

....gees, Chick...kinda like you're NOT a thief as long as you don't get caught....you're MORE than willing to enforce 'the rules' when some bb'er opens up a porn site to make extra cash, but when it comes to the MOST important rules...what the f**k, why even bother having the rules?

Chick, if you do NOTHING at all as the head of the pro's, you should petition to GET RID OF THE rules that BAN steroid use in the IFBB!  End the hipocrisy!  

What a mess.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Chick on September 21, 2006, 10:29:15 AM
...and you seriously wonder why bodybuilding isn't taken seriously AT ALL by all other major sports associations?

....gees, Chick...kinda like you're NOT a thief as long as you don't get caught....you're MORE than willing to enforce 'the rules' when some bb'er opens up a porn site to make extra cash, but when it comes to the MOST important rules...what the f**k, why even bother having the rules?

Chick, if you do NOTHING at all as the head of the pro's, you should petition to GET RID OF THE rules that BAN steroid use in the IFBB!  End the hipocrasy! 

What a mess.

Bro...theres PLENTY of rules I would get rid of, If I were running the ship....I'm not.

I have to work within the guidelines as well as everyone else. There is a chain of command to be followed, and a procedure to be adhered to, in order to make change happen...so far, I think I've been pretty successful in making some strides for all the athletes.

Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: jaejonna on September 21, 2006, 10:30:56 AM
You dont need to explain yourself everyone knows your an IFBB lackey, most people if not all answer to someone.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Adam Empire on September 21, 2006, 10:30:57 AM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



Translation: He, nor any Pro, has been given the tests.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: figgs on September 21, 2006, 10:36:50 AM
My job here is done.

Your silence has answered my question, Bob.
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Chick on September 21, 2006, 10:43:43 AM
Bob, I'm quite curious about something. Are you confident that you would pass any randomly administered drug test?

Sorry, bro..didn't see your question.

Yes, I could pass any random test...
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: mrsirjojo on September 21, 2006, 11:20:55 AM
Translation: He, nor any Pro, has been given the tests.

Whoa, relax. You telling me that you also haven't passed every test you never took! I think not!
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: figgs on September 21, 2006, 12:16:25 PM
Sorry, bro..didn't see your question.

Yes, I could pass any random test...

I'm skeptical, to be honest with you, but I have to respect the confidence portrayed in your reply.
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: onlyme on September 21, 2006, 12:21:12 PM
These are the shrts the IFBB huggers will be wearing in court.  Chic came up with a great saying.
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: figgs on September 21, 2006, 12:31:03 PM
These are the shrts the IFBB huggers will be wearing in court.  Chic came up with a great saying.

Holy shit LMFAO!
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: Hedgehog on September 21, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
As long as the pro BB's claims they are natural, they won't have a problem from the IFBB.

Then, it's only the SLIGHT problem of Ben Weider's Olympic dreams that made him sign with WADA. It opens up for full cooperation.

And, once the WADA organisation is set on testing IFBB blokes... It will be... interesting?


I'm not even sure why Lee Priest is allowed to compete, as he has admitted to his usage. Other pros have admitted as well in the past.

But the IFBB is probably claiming that they aren't aware of the Platz video, or the interviews with Priest... 8)

Double standard, at least. Why ban him for competing in another organisation, but not for admitting using steroids?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: bic_staedtler on September 21, 2006, 06:15:36 PM
Bro...theres PLENTY of rules I would get rid of, If I were running the ship....I'm not.

I have to work within the guidelines as well as everyone else. There is a chain of command to be followed, and a procedure to be adhered to, in order to make change happen...so far, I think I've been pretty successful in making some strides for all the athletes.



....well, I'll give ya that much.  Of those plenty of rules, can you say which 3 you would get 'rid of'...and is it feasible to do so?
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: AVBG on September 21, 2006, 06:29:55 PM
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER  FAILED THE TEST, GENIUS...



Never been tested!  ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: AVBG on September 21, 2006, 06:38:46 PM
As long as the pro BB's claims they are natural, they won't have a problem from the IFBB.

Then, it's only the SLIGHT problem of Ben Weider's Olympic dreams that made him sign with WADA. It opens up for full cooperation.

And, once the WADA organisation is set on testing IFBB blokes... It will be... interesting?


I'm not even sure why Lee Priest is allowed to compete, as he has admitted to his usage. Other pros have admitted as well in the past.

But the IFBB is probably claiming that they aren't aware of the Platz video, or the interviews with Priest... 8)

Double standard, at least. Why ban him for competing in another organisation, but not for admitting using steroids?

YIP
Zack

Ben has been vomiting his wishes/dreams about BB being accepted as an Olympic event for decades, monster delusions ... I recall a big push made in the eighties and early nineties but nothing eventuated. It just will never happen.

Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 21, 2006, 06:44:27 PM
Sorry, bro..didn't see your question.

Yes, I could pass any random test...

Really? At any chosen time of the year by a doctor NOT picked by you or the IFBB and BTW, this would include masking agents, a blood test and urine test??

I got a grand that says you can't!!
Title: Re: Why ISN`T BOB CHICK SUSPENDED for VIOLATING IFBB DOPING POLICY?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 21, 2006, 08:05:35 PM
Really? At any chosen time of the year by a doctor NOT picked by you or the IFBB and BTW, this would include masking agents, a blood test and urine test??

I got a grand that says you can't!!

I didn't think you would respond to this!!
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: IceCold on September 21, 2006, 09:27:11 PM
if sen. john mcain decides to call in the powers that be and ask questions about the drug testing, professional bbing as we know it, could be over.

i dont think that will happen as bbing isnt popular enough or makes the money that baseball and the other major sports do.  i dont think mcain will waste his time with bbing.
Title: Re: IFBB Doping Policies should be enforced too then!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 21, 2006, 09:38:05 PM
if sen. john mcain decides to call in the powers that be and ask questions about the drug testing, professional bbing as we know it, could be over.

i dont think that will happen as bbing isnt popular enough or makes the money that baseball and the other major sports do.  i dont think mcain will waste his time with bbing.


McCain doesn't even know bodybuilding exists and even if he did, it wouldn't be an issue because BODYBUILDING IS NOT A SPORT!!