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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: JediKnight on September 21, 2006, 09:02:43 PM
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I know one thing Jay's legs crush Ruhl's. Wheels: Jay>Ruhl
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Please inform 240 he owes me $100
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I know one thing Jay's legs crush Ruhl's. Wheels: Jay>Ruhl
I wouldn't say that they crush Ruhl's.
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The problem is the when Ruhl turns its all over..
Cutler has a better back 8)
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Ruhl has a disgusting physique
He should NEVER beat Cutler
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cutler got 2nd on lock.
i think ruhl will get somewhere in the 5th-8th range.
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Cutler got Ronnie beat!
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ruhls legs are harder than jay's but jay has better shape and sweep.
ruhl kills cutler from the front. but jay wins the back and he is usually a bit dryer than ruhl.
but ruhl can beat cutler.
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ruhls legs are harder than jay's but jay has better shape and sweep.
ruhl kills cutler from the front. but jay wins the back and he is usually a bit dryer than ruhl.
but ruhl can beat cutler.
No doubt about that!
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Cutler got Ronnie beat!
Pfft
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Ruhl makes Cutler look like a school boy from the front... ;D seriously both have their strength and weaknesses.. an open minded jury could very well place both athletes in the top 3.
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AHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA
Ruhl beating cutler : ::)
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Ruhl makes Cutler look like a school boy from the front... ;D seriously both have their strength and weaknesses.. an open minded jury could very well place both athletes in the top 3.
I believe you're Ruhl's guy
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I believe you're Ruhl's guy
You think you believe... well if you are into 'believing' you are better offer spending time in church than being on a message board.
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If Ruhl comes in at his all time best, he'll crack the top 5.
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i cant believe im actually reading this, someone actually thinks Ruhl is gonna challenge Jay for 2nd? Not a fuckin chance, when was the last time he was even close to Jay in a contest? ::) He doesnt dwarf Jay, not even close. Lb for lb Jay has way more mass than Ruhl
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You think you believe... well if you are into 'believing' you are better offer spending time in church than being on a message board.
So you're a Ronnie's fan too..
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Keep dreaming. Ruhl cannot beat cutler. He has too many flaws. Sheer mass and freakiness does not win shows.
PB
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i cant believe im actually reading this, someone actually thinks Ruhl is gonna challenge Jay for 2nd? Not a fuckin chance, when was the last time he was even close to Jay in a contest? ::) He doesnt dwarf Jay, not even close. Lb for lb Jay has way more mass than Ruhl
An argument can be made that Ruhl should have beaten Cutler at the AC in 2003 when they were compared. Ruhl definitely has a bigger frame than Cutler and certainly has more mass than him lb for lb. Anyway... as always IFBB judges will be too close-minded to look past previous placings and the top names... just as you are.
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Ruhl is about 275-280 at 5'11, Jay has 270 at 5'7 or so. How on earth can you say Ruhl has more lb for lb mass? Jays physique is on a level that Ruhl just wont get to because he hasnt got the tools to get there. Everything on his body is big but it doesnt blend that well IMO
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Ruhl has a disgusting physique
He should NEVER beat Cutler
exactly......
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Ruhl has a disgusting physique
He should NEVER beat Cutler
Yes he's a fucking mess.
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Ruhl's bicep peaks are insane. :o
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AHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA
Ruhl beating cutler :o
Haha... this is what kills me about some people on Getbig. Look at the picture DIRECTLY ABOVE your post. What's so funny? It's almost like you read the thread title and then NOTHING in the thread and go directly to the REPLY button.
Monster irony really, when you consider which post preceeded yours :D
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An argument can be made that Ruhl should have beaten Cutler at the AC in 2003 when they were compared. Ruhl definitely has a bigger frame than Cutler and certainly has more mass than him lb for lb. Anyway... as always IFBB judges will be too close-minded to look past previous placings and the top names... just as you are.
Either that or they relize ruhl looks like shit next to cutler. Either or tho!
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Haha... this is what kills me about some people on Getbig. Look at the picture DIRECTLY ABOVE your post. What's so funny? It's almost like you read the thread title and then NOTHING in the thread and go directly to the REPLY button.
Monster irony really, when you consider which post preceeded yours :D
AHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA
Ruhl beating cutler : ::)
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Cutler got Ronnie beat!
Put the comparison pics up..!!!
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Ruhl's bicep peaks are insane. :o
as insane as ernie taylor tris...
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Put the comparison pics up..!!!
Is there any recent Ronnie pics?
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i cant believe im actually reading this, someone actually thinks Ruhl is gonna challenge Jay for 2nd? Not a fuckin chance, when was the last time he was even close to Jay in a contest? ::) He doesnt dwarf Jay, not even close. Lb for lb Jay has way more mass than Ruhl
(http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/2003a_arnolds4.jpg) (http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/2003a_arnolds3.jpg)
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well... those pics are from the 2004 ASC when cutler was wAYYY over dieted and flat as all hell, but i think even if cutler is as big as he can be with conditioning... a spot on ruhl can be VERY VERY dangerous.
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well... those pics are from the 2004 ASC when cutler was wAYYY over dieted and flat as all hell, but i think even if cutler is as big as he can be with conditioning... a spot on ruhl can be VERY VERY dangerous.
no the pics are from the 2003 ASC.
Ruhl utterly crushed Jay at the 2004. Ruhl looked to be 40lbs heavier (285 vs 245)
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(http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/2003a_arnolds4.jpg) (http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/2003a_arnolds3.jpg)
Ruhl is taller than I thought. He looks to be one or two inches taller than Ronnie as well.
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Ronnie and Markus are about even in height
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ruhl's back will always keep him down.
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ruhl's back will always keep him down.
his back is very big and wide. his detail is s l o w l y comming in
but lets see another pic from the front! 2000 mr o
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/pre/markus01.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/pre/ronnie01.jpg)
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thats the thing about Ruhl, he looks like hes 320 but weighs 280. However i stand by what i said, Jay is 270 and is a good 3-4" shorter so he has more muscle lb for lb.
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(http://www.ruhl-movie.com/galerie/2002noc.jpg)
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branch warren will place 2nd
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branch warren will place 2nd
why not first?
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thats the thing about Ruhl, he looks like hes 320 but weighs 280. However i stand by what i said, Jay is 270 and is a good 3-4" shorter so he has more muscle lb for lb.
You really need to get away from making weight references. Neither you nor I know how much those guys really weigh off season or come contest day. There is no official weigh in as in boxing for instance. Bodybuilders are known to blow everything out of proportion especially when it comes to weight and measurments. Fact is on any comparison pic you can find between Markus and Jay, be it old or recent, Markus is wider, thicker and bigger. The comparison photos posted in this thread make it painfully obvious. Unfortunately, we do have a close minded judging panel so nothing will change...
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Agree w/ Royality, if Ruhl come's in to the O looking like he did at 03 ASC, or 02NOC , Will give Cutler & Ronnie a run ;D
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Ruhls genetics wont allow him to beat cutler...i actually dont think he has triceps. like at all
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Ruhls genetics wont allow him to beat cutler...i actually dont think he has triceps. like at all
Ruhl already beat Cutler... so much for his genetics won't allow it ;D... the judges won't allow it to happen again.
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An argument can be made that Ruhl should have beaten Cutler at the AC in 2003 when they were compared. Ruhl definitely has a bigger frame than Cutler and certainly has more mass than him lb for lb. Anyway... as always IFBB judges will be too close-minded to look past previous placings and the top names... just as you are.
Let's see...............
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nobody has mentioned the blatant synthol abuse yet :-\
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Let's see...............
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ruhl wins hands down.no contest.it sucks they gave it to gutler
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Insane, Ruhl couldn't touch Cutler. Jay looks awesome 1 week out. Secondly, I will say that Jay doesn't finish second, and is beat by Victor Martinez. Victor looks unreal, saw him last week.
The top 6 is going to be a fight and a half. Can't wait
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Ruhl is so structurally flawed that Cutler could never lose to him unless he is really out of shape
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Ruhl is so structurally flawed that Cutler could never lose to him unless he is really out of shape
Jay has the same structural flaws only to a lesser extent. It mainly stems from both having a wide waist which detracts from their respective tapers. That having been said, Ruhl's muscle density and hardness trumps Jay's. Jay is superior in many ways though. All in all, I would say they are closer than usually recognized to be.
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Ruhl is so structurally flawed that Cutler could never lose to him unless he is really out of shape
RIGHT :P ... and Cutler is the epitomy of symetrie and a flowing physique... ;D
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RIGHT :P ... and Cutler is the epitomy of symetrie and a flowing physique... ;D
Yeah, Cutler is no Flex Wheeler, but he definitely more structurally sound than Ruhl
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RIGHT :P ... and Cutler is the epitomy of symetrie and a flowing physique... ;D
Ruhl makes cutler look like robbie robinson.
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Jay has the same structural flaws only to a lesser extent. It mainly stems from both having a wide waist which detracts from their respective tapers. That having been said, Ruhl's muscle density and hardness trumps Jay's. Jay is superior in many ways though. All in all, I would say they are closer than usually recognized to be.
Well, I don't think that Jay and Rhul are closer. As far as Rhul physic's flaws is concerned, I think that people are confusing freaky big muscles with flaws. There are no flaws on Rhul's physic! I honestly think that this year he would be a serious candidate for mr. O's numero uno!!!