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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: truisdat on September 22, 2006, 10:05:41 AM
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Ok Bob - Excuse me if I missed something and that very well may be the case. Maybe you can shed some light on this, as you are the "athletes rep". The rules in the IFBB rule book clearly state that no Athlete, Judge or official may participate in any other non IfBB or NPC sanctioned event in any way shape or form and coninues to list different scenerios. My question to you is : Why didn't you get suspended or fined for participating in FAME event - if i remember correctly you were on the poster and emceed the whole event. I realize that you had obligations to BB.com to be there - but rules are rules !! I believe if action was taken against Lee Priest there needs to be an explanation of why no action was taken against you. Please don't be nasty or hasty in your response- I am just a concerned fan of the industry.
thank you in advance
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Ok Bob - Excuse me if I missed something and that very well may be the case. Maybe you can shed some light on this, as you are the "athletes rep". The rules in the IFBB rule book clearly state that no Athlete, Judge or official may participate in any other non IfBB or NPC sanctioned event in any way shape or form and coninues to list different scenerios. My question to you is : Why didn't you get suspended or fined for participating in FAME event - if i remember correctly you were on the poster and emceed the whole event. I realize that you had obligations to BB.com to be there - but rules are rules !! I believe if action was taken against Lee Priest there needs to be an explanation of why no action was taken against you. Please don't be nasty or hasty in your response- I am just a concerned fan of the industry.
thank you in advance
I hosted the entire event, not just the FAME portion...much like I had to do an appearance at Wayne's Expo in Chicago earlier in the year for BB.com. There is a provision in the rules that allow for athletes to work for their company, when their company is sponsoring an event...this rule was changed last year at some time.
This proivision applies to ALL pro's, I'm not an exception to the rule.
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I hosted the entire event, not just the FAME portion...much like I had to do an appearance at Wayne's Expo in Chicago earlier in the year for BB.com. There is a provision in the rules that allow for athletes to work for their company, when their company is sponsoring an event...this rule was changed last year at some time.
This proivision applies to ALL pro's, I'm not an exception to the rule.
As the athlete's rep do you believe that this change was not made keeping the athletes' bests interests in mind?
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The rules in the IFBB rule book clearly state that no Athlete, Judge or official may participate in any other non IfBB or NPC sanctioned event in any way shape or form unless the athlete is under 5'3" tall..
can you read!
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The rules in the IFBB rule book clearly state that no Athlete, Judge or official may participate in any other non IfBB or NPC sanctioned event in any way shape or form unless the athlete is under 5'3" tall..
can you read!
lmao, MONSTER over-estimation of lee's actual 4'7" height!
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I hosted the entire event, not just the FAME portion...much like I had to do an appearance at Wayne's Expo in Chicago earlier in the year for BB.com. There is a provision in the rules that allow for athletes to work for their company, when their company is sponsoring an event...this rule was changed last year at some time.
This proivision applies to ALL pro's, I'm not an exception to the rule.
Where is that provision in the rules?Or is that only for you? I didn't see it.Twinlab wanted me to compete in the NOC they said it was ok gets thier name out there as thier athlete whats the difference.But please show me the difference or where that provision is.
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I'd have to find it...but it exsist's, believe me.
Obviously, it only allows for appearances at booth's...not competing.
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I'd have to find it...but it exsist's, believe me.
Translation: Chic is on Word right now typing it up
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I'd have to find it...but it exsist's, believe me.
Obviously, it only allows for appearances at booth's...not competing.
And emceeing and blah blah blah.Well you find it ok :)
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I hosted the entire event, not just the FAME portion...much like I had to do an appearance at Wayne's Expo in Chicago earlier in the year for BB.com. There is a provision in the rules that allow for athletes to work for their company, when their company is sponsoring an event...this rule was changed last year at some time.
This proivision applies to ALL pro's, I'm not an exception to the rule.
So all a bodybuilder has to do to compete in a PDI event, then, is incorporate (i.e. make a company that simply promotes them and their services) and then sponsor that competition via their company.
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And emceeing and blah blah blah.Well you find it ok :)
rule book bla bla bla,how big is this book its bb for fuck sake the ifbb acts as if they own your soul.Any bb at any time should be able to compete in any show they desire under any sanction ifbb or pdi.
whats the ifbb scared of that someone might out due there prize money.
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I just looked up the most recent (2006) rules of the IFBB and did not fing any such provision.
Bob - is it safe to say that if lee gets a verified letter from his sponsor that the suspension is not valid ?
also - if there is an addendum to the rules - were the athletes notified ?
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Quit changing the heading of the thread you fuckers, it's all confusin and shit. I am board as hell, wheather is shitty, and I am off work. I am trying to catch up on my soaps, so stop please.
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Lee, you better keep dieting.. The Olympia has your name back on it..
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Chick,
It sounds like Wayne's expo was a violation, as you are not allowed to take part in a non-sanctioned event in any capacity whatsoever, including endorsing.
2006 Pro League Rulebook
1.7 Non-Sanctioned Competitions or Events:
Any Member, whether Athlete, Judge or Official, who participates in a competition or event not approved or sanctioned by the Pro League may be fined, suspended, or expelled. Participation includes, but is not limited to, competing, guest posing, giving a seminar, judging, officiating, promoting, endorsing or otherwise taking part in any capacity whatsoever in a non-sanctioned competition or event.
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Translation: Chic is on Word right now typing it up
I believe you mean Word Perfect.
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Chick,
It sounds like Wayne's expo was a violation, as you are not allowed to take part in a non-sanctioned event in any capacity whatsoever, including endorsing.
2006 Pro League Rulebook
1.7 Non-Sanctioned Competitions or Events:
Any Member, whether Athlete, Judge or Official, who participates in a competition or event not approved or sanctioned by the Pro League may be fined, suspended, or expelled. Participation includes, but is not limited to, competing, guest posing, giving a seminar, judging, officiating, promoting, endorsing or otherwise taking part in any capacity whatsoever in a non-sanctioned competition or event.
looks pretty black & white to me
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Oh Chick, did you find it? Now something interesting is happening. Popcorn - check, Cherry water - check, comfy chair - check. OK everyone proceed.
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Oh Chick, did you find it? Now something interesting is happening. Popcorn - check, Cherry water - check, comfy chair - check. OK everyone proceed.
Cherry water and popcorn? Don't forget your douche and a tampon.
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lol, thanks it does sound kinda faggish but damn it is good together. Kinda of like you sucking dick and letting them cum down the gullet, it goes good together.
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I'd have to find it...but it exsist's, believe me.
Obviously, it only allows for appearances at booth's...not competing.
Well I don't think many believe much of what you say these days Bob. And unless it specifically states "nont including comeptition" then there is a HUGE problem with Lee's suspension. As an outsider not knowing either of you, I would hope Bob just mentioned this rule change to help Lee. I would hope this was the case. I a roundabout way Bob is giving Lee some ammo to battle the suspension. Props to you Bob. If not then you were very dumb giving this info out.
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lol, thanks it does sound kinda faggish but damn it is good together. Kinda of like you sucking dick and letting them cum down the gullet, it goes good together.
AHAHAHAAHAHH!!!! Ok "BigPopa"........you noobs are precious with your little "smack talk".
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Thanks for the ego boost but this isn't about us, for now, lol.
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Well I don't think many believe much of what you say these days Bob. And unless it specifically states "nont including comeptition" then there is a HUGE problem with Lee's suspension. As an outsider not knowing either of you, I would hope Bob just mentioned this rule change to help Lee. I would hope this was the case. I a roundabout way Bob is giving Lee some ammo to battle the suspension. Props to you Bob. If not then you were very dumb giving this info out.
Yes.. Bob and Ben know that if Lee competes there will be more tickets sold.. FACT!
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Thanks for the ego boost but this isn't about us, for now, lol.
You lemme know you think you're ready......the Squad'll make you famous!
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You mean infamous, famous people are all dead, that is how they became famous.
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You can tell so easy when Bob gets miffed and doesn't know what to do. He is calling Manion for answers. Right now they are adding in that clause so Bob doesn't get in trouble. But they are editing it so Lee does get in trouble. Funny how they change rules yet do not advize the pros themselves. Manions phone must be busy. He'll be back with a perfect answer
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believe me.
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LOL er.....sure.
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Bob - It took you less than 7 minutes to respond to my original post but it has been over 6 hours for you to provide the information that is supposed to be so easily accessible to support your claims.
You also claimed that you hosted the entire event which is not true. You only emceed the Fame portion and did not appear for the NPC portion which makes it even more controversal. These are some very disturbing circumstances that should be cleared up!!!
As the athlete rep and the athlete in question I think you should lobby to the best of your ability to release the suspension on Lee Priest. Lee's suspension should be lifted until these matters are cleared up. Either that you should go on immediate suspension and not be allowed to emcee the Olympia until a hearing is performed.
Please do the right thing and bring some integrity to this sport. We have to start somewhere.
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You mean infamous, famous people are all dead, that is how they became famous.
Very true. Richer too, once you've died.
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What the fuckk. I thought this had potential. Get on with it already.
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Hey BoB -
Any luck finding that clause in the IFBB rule book that allows IFBB Pro's to work at Non - sanctioned events ?
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Hey BoB -
Any luck finding that clause in the IFBB rule book that allows IFBB Pro's to work at Non - sanctioned events ?
He's hoping it goes away. There never was one. Maybe Manion is typing it up as we speak.
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"Athletes Rep"
PFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT.....o h brother..... ::)
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Bump, we can't get this thread lost without a responce ;D
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I was wondering this Chic. How about the guys who come over and Guest Pose for Designer Body show. That is a non-sanctioned event. Shouldn't they be suspended to.
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To be honest I am surprised that Chic didn't delete this thead by accident.
Chic's credo: *stick your head in the sand and hopes it goes away*
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before this thread I was pretty much un-bias towards Chick/ IFBB and such - after his response or lack thereof I have lost a great deal of respect for him. He is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM and Athletes Rep. An athletes Rep would have looked into these events and provided an angle in which Lee could defend his decision. Chick is just another IFBB puppet and all he does is help inforce their rules. Seriously - your title should be "IFBB Sheriff"
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before this thread I was pretty much un-bias towards Chick/ IFBB and such - after his response or lack thereof I have lost a great deal of respect for him. He is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM and Athletes Rep. An athletes Rep would have looked into these events and provided an angle in which Lee could defend his decision. Chick is just another IFBB puppet and all he does is help inforce their rules. Seriously - your title should be "IFBB Sheriff"
Lack therof to what? No answer seems to be good enough for you, so what are you expecting.
Whatever "angle" Lee is looking to use to fight his suspention is HIS responsibility. I'm not a lawyer. Lee chose this course, now he has to face the consequences of his actions....that was HIS decision.
I informed him what those actions would result in...that's my job.
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You told us you were going to provide a copy of the rules showing a clause where it was justified that you participated in the Fame show ??
According to the rules of the IFBB - you violated the same policy as Lee !!
As the Athlete Rep did you enlighten the IFBB of this ??
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Actually, I received a letter from Tony Blinn (IFBB Official) reguarding my involvement in the Chicago Expo that Wayne DeMilia put on, as well as my involvement in the BB.com EXPO which included a FAME show.
I explained that I was indirectly involved, as my company was a sponsor of the event, and I was working for my company...plain and simple. I also talked with Jim Manion around the same time, and he informed me that they had made an amendment to the rules reguarding pro's working for their companies, etc.
The amendment, is short sighted at best...which is the reason I opted to challenge the rule as it stands and make it feasable for IFBB pro's to participate (and make money) making appearances, guest posings, seminars, openings, etc. at non-sanctioned shows/ expos.
As you can see, I'm not "above the law" (unlike Steven Seagal) and have to adhere to the same rules as everyone else...there have been plenty of pro's who have been cleeared to make similar appearances, but it is the exceptioon, not the rule...
I'm looking to make it the rule.
BTW...I had no involvement with the NPC show which was held the next day, because I was on a plane for L.A., with business to attend to the next day. Ironically, it was Lee Priest himself who didn't show up for a scheduled guest posing at the show....
Anything else you need to get through the next chapter?
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Actually, I received a letter from Tony Blinn (IFBB Official) reguarding my involvement in the Chicago Expo that Wayne DeMilia put on, as well as my involvement in the BB.com EXPO which included a FAME show.
I explained that I was indirectly involved, as my company was a sponsor of the event, and I was working for my company...plain and simple. I also talked with Jim Manion around the same time, and he informed me that they had made an amendment to the rules reguarding pro's working for their companies, etc.
The amendment, is short sighted at best...which is the reason I opted to challenge the rule as it stands and make it feasable for IFBB pro's to participate (and make money) making appearances, guest posings, seminars, openings, etc. at non-sanctioned shows/ expos.
As you can see, I'm not "above the law" (unlike Steven Seagal) and have to adhere to the same rules as everyone else...there have been plenty of pro's who have been cleeared to make similar appearances, but it is the exceptioon, not the rule...
I'm looking to make it the rule.
BTW...I had no involvement with the NPC show which was held the next day, because I was on a plane for L.A., with business to attend to the next day. Ironically, it was Lee Priest himself who didn't show up for a scheduled guest posing at the show....
Anything else you need to get through the next chapter?
::)
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yes - where is the amendment? or was it just a verbal agreement between you and Jim Manion ?