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Title: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: knny187 on September 22, 2006, 06:00:10 PM
I came across this article which is now a few years old.  Has much changed?  What happened to Kevin's promise?  Is this year going to be a gift for Ronnie again....or will he have to earn it? 

This years Olympia is coming up & when I came across this article.... it seems to me like nothing has changed. Do you think Kevin still feels the same way even though he's no longer competing?



Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia
by Kevin Levrone

I’m a believer in giving the fans what they want.  The bodybuilding aficionados deserve to get what they pay for when they throw down $200 for prime seats at a top-tier show.  Right now, I’m going on the record to say the fans are not getting their money’s worth.

Coming off the 2001 Mr. Olympia, where I placed third despite being in in excellent condition once again.  I am more convinced than ever that Ronnie Coleman should no longer bear the title of Mr. Olympia.  This is the second consecutive Mr. O gift for Ronnie, and I’m not prepared to hang back in the weeds and let an injustice go without fair comment. 

The plain truth is that I beat Ronnie last year (2000) and Jay Cutler beat Ronnie this year.  You should not win the Mr. Olympia if your stomach is hanging out – period.  Last year, I patted Ronnie’s stomach during the pose down to draw attention to the fact that he was obviously bloated.  That tactic obviously didn’t work, and Ronnie beat me in the pose down to successfully defend his title for a third straight Mr.O triumph. 

During the 2001 press conference, I hammered on the point that no standing Mr. O champion has ever been beaten [in fact, Sergio Olivia, in 1970 and Samir Bannout, in 1984, lost their titles onstage] and that something is wrong with an it’s-over-before-it-even-gets-started attitude surrounding the contest.  I don’t train for second place, and I want the opportunity to get a fair shot at toppling Ronnie – or any Mr. Olympia – from his throne.

So now the show rolls around and Jay Cutler beats Ronnie in both prejudging rounds: symmetry and muscularity.  Ronnie
was spilling over with too much water during the muscularity round, and Cutler took it to him in many of the poses that Coleman usually dominates.

How can Cutler lose this contest if he wins both symmetry and muscularity?  How can Ronnie retain his title if his midsection is bloated and distended?  Why should the fans get behind a champion who can’t present an aesthetic image of what bodybuilding is supposed to be all about?

I’m talking about classical proportions, perfect symmetry and ideal conditioning.  Based on that ideal, I should have won the Sandow in 2000, and Cutler should have taken it in 2001.   The fans deserve better than what they are getting.  I’m already working hard to ensure that, in 2002, a true people’s champ can strip the title away for Ronnie Coleman.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 22, 2006, 06:05:20 PM
I believe Kevin just got his years mixed up. He said 1000. That's in the past.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jr. Yates on September 22, 2006, 06:06:00 PM
Interesting. Thanks Knny for posting that.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 22, 2006, 06:07:10 PM
I posted a few quotes from this interveiw on the truce thread and the best that could mangae was Levrone had no legs  ::)
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: knny187 on September 22, 2006, 06:10:14 PM
I believe Kevin just got his years mixed up. He said 1000. That's in the past.

man...you read that & cought the typo....


coming from you....

I'm impressed!




it's fixed now
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Hulkster on September 22, 2006, 06:12:28 PM
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2000/2.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2000/4.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2000/11.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/top6-08.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2000/finals/top6-02.jpg)
(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/media/2000_02LG.jpg)
I find it incredibly funny that Kevin had the audacity to crtiticize Ronnie in the muscularity round in 2000..

given that he looked like a child next to him in the back shots.

Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Hulkster on September 22, 2006, 06:13:13 PM
I posted a few quotes from this interveiw on the truce thread and the best that could mangae was Levrone had no legs  ::)

or back apparently..see the pics I posted.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Hulkster on September 22, 2006, 06:14:20 PM
ps ND taking quotes out of context as usual ::)

the claim was made (and validated) that Kevin had no legs in 2003.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 22, 2006, 06:15:29 PM
haha, kevin is getting owned in the pics. how bout no legs or no back and ronnies condition was better.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Bigger Business on September 22, 2006, 06:15:47 PM
kevin got 'childed' by ronnie
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 22, 2006, 06:21:11 PM
Kevin outclassed Ronnie in 2000 and 2002 , the crowd wouldn't stop booing when Coleman recieved his 1st place in 02 ! Ronnie had a bad three years 2000/01/02
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Jr. Yates on September 22, 2006, 06:26:38 PM
Kevin outclassed Ronnie in 2000 and 2002 , the crowd wouldn't stop booing when Coleman recieved his 1st place in 02 ! Ronnie had a bad three years 2000/01/02
yup I agree.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: knny187 on September 22, 2006, 06:30:26 PM
So are you guys agreeing that Kevin was just crying about losing?
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Hulkster on September 22, 2006, 06:30:53 PM
well, based on the pics I posted and this video it sure doesn't look like kevin "outclassed" ronnie in 2000...





 ;)
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levron
Post by: Knives on September 22, 2006, 06:40:31 PM
I'll admit Ronnie has a bulging midsection, but in the pics that Hulkster put up, Ronnie really does look the best in all of them.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levron
Post by: willie mosconi on September 22, 2006, 06:41:23 PM
ronnie's chest looks weird in that video above

also, he was a bit off conditioning wise
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levron
Post by: Hulkster on September 22, 2006, 06:45:09 PM
I'll admit Ronnie has a bulging midsection, but in the pics that Hulkster put up, Ronnie really does look the best in all of them.

what else is new? 8)

Ronnie was better than the competition 99% of the time, even when he was a little off.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levron
Post by: willie mosconi on September 22, 2006, 07:47:50 PM
what else is new? 8)

Ronnie was better than the competition 99% of the time, even when he was a little off.


look, ronnie has flaws that he cannot get rid of even if he is in perfect condition and that is why it took him so long to really break through.

1. his chest is strange

2. his abs looks very weird

3. his calves are subpar

4. his physique doesn't flow at all- not as bad as guys like Ruhl- but bad nonetheless

I generally think Ronnie is a great bber, but flawed
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levron
Post by: Matt C on September 22, 2006, 07:50:12 PM
Kevin outclassed Ronnie in 2000 and 2002 , the crowd wouldn't stop booing when Coleman recieved his 1st place in 02 ! Ronnie had a bad three years 2000/01/02

Just because Ronnie isn't at his personal best doesn't mean he doesn't best the competition.  I think Ronnie needs to come in "Ronnie big" and "Ronnie ripped" to win favour with people like yourself.

He rightly won in 2000-2002, unless you consider it an automatic failure to have a gut.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on September 23, 2006, 05:11:00 AM
Structural flaws aside, muscle mass cannot be overlooked forever.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Necrosis on September 23, 2006, 05:45:32 AM
i have the video and kevin had no back and subpar legs compared to ronnie. i was impressed with both of them but ronnie won, simple. even in the pictures kevin is being pwned.
Title: Re: old article.....Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: pumpster on September 23, 2006, 05:57:37 AM
Quote
I generally think Ronnie is a great bber, but flawed
If flaws are an issue, Yates immediately comes to mind. Levrone actually looks small and seriously lacking in several areas compared to Coleman.
Title: Re: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 23, 2006, 06:55:04 AM
levrone is in good condition, but he just doesn't have the development of ronnie.

the gut thing disturbs me somewhat. ronnie has a small waist structurally so what chance has jay/others got. when they add enough mass to compete they will have bigger guts.

bodybuilders HAVE to get freakier as much as sprinters have to run faster/long jumpers have to jump further, but it's a scary thought as to where this is all going to end up.
Title: Re: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Rearden Metal on September 23, 2006, 07:02:28 AM
If Kevin kept training past 97-98, he'd have caught Ronnie in 00 or 01. Instead he trained for 3 months and took home 50K or so.

Nonetheless, Levrone had some of the sickest BB genetics ever.
Title: Re: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: divcom on September 23, 2006, 07:09:16 AM
00-02

Jay got DQed and Kevin didnt want to train....so Ronnie stayed #1.  Maybe Kevin should return to his day job FT instead QT...as his bud Shawn said.  BBer vs Actor vs Singer. 
Title: Re: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: Miss Demeanor on September 23, 2006, 07:24:49 AM
If Kevin kept training past 97-98, he'd have caught Ronnie in 00 or 01. Instead he trained for 3 months and took home 50K or so.

Nonetheless, Levrone had some of the sickest BB genetics ever.

I'm with you.  Kevin was my favorite; I met him when he came here in early '93 at a Powerhouse Gym opening.  He was a sweetheart ... but by 2000 it was obvious his back and especially legs were not what they used to be.  I know he was injured but that doesn't mean much when standing next to Ronnie onstage. 
Title: Re: Why Ronnie Coleman should not be Mr. Olympia by Kevin Levrone
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 23, 2006, 07:51:57 AM
sour grapes...stick to making "movies" if you want to call them that

Backlash->VCR