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Only a few details but it looks to me like they were family dogs which turned on a baby. How sad, but of course it can't be the dogs fault can it!
A baby has died after an attack by dogs in the New Parks area of Leicester.
Police and ambulance personnel were called to the scene of the attack, at living premises at The Rocket public house in Stephenson Drive, shortly before 4pm on Saturday, September 23.
The five-month-old girl was rushed to Leicester Royal Infirmary, but tragically died from her injuries.
Two Rottweiller dogs were removed from the scene by police.
Officers are investigating the circumstances surrounding the incident.
Issued on 24/09/06 at 12:34
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these dogs are an abomination >:(
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these dogs are an abomination >:(
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The dogs and the owners should be tortured.
Maybe put in a cage with a pride of lions, to make sure they knew how that poor little girl felt >:(
FUCKING SCUM
There is NO justification for having these dogs surely?
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The dogs and the owners should be tortured.
Maybe put in a cage with a pride of lions, to make sure they knew how that poor little girl felt >:(
FUCKING SCUM
There is NO justification for having these dogs surely?
these people need these dogs because they know they are pussies and the macho dogs make them feel tough
why do scumbags always own pitbulls and rottweilers?
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Oh boy... Here we go again ::)
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Oh boy... Here we go again ::)
What? you think there's justification?
There's surely a certain mentallity from these types of people. Why not get a labby or something tame like that?
I know people are gonna argue about it's the owners fault yada yada... and that your pit is the tamest dog in the world yada yada... ::)
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Pitbulls and Rot(ten)weilers are naturally aggressive dogs. Hell, I say toss the parents to the dogs too for being so fucking stupid.
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What? you think there's justification?
There's surely a certain mentallity from these types of people. Why not get a labby or something tame like that?
I know people are gonna argue about it's the owners fault yada yada... and that your pit is the tamest dog in the world yada yada... ::)
Are you kidding, If you break into my home,... ah lets just say it'll be the last fucking time... Hey, it's as American as guns and apple pie... We have a right to protect our lives and private property. First of all there are no details to this story but it didn't stop you from saying what needs to happen ::) Wait until the facts are posted before determining who's guilty and why. Everytime something like this happens, there are cries to get rid of the whole dog breed. That's what I meant about here we go again... Some want to get rid of the most dangerous dogs. Then when they're gone, there is a next most dangerous dog, get rid of them then, and the what... Oh then there's a next most dangerous dog, German Shepherds.... You're getting rid of those in America over my dead body mother fucker. This is a tragedy, the answer is not getting rid of the dogs. Get rid of the bad dog owners. Don't take it out on the owners who have done everything right because they ARE the majority. That's what I meant by here we go again... This conversation always get launched by hot heads emotionalized by the story rather than common sense.
yada yada??? You're a Jewish Nordic Superman?
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Sweet Jesus that is bad. My god. The only way this crap is going to stop is if owners get some very serious jail time. My heart goes out to that baby and family.
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First off I'm not negating the seriousness of the attack, it's horrible & yes something needs to be done but I just wanted to give a little something from the other end of the spectum concerning this breed (& yes I've owned 2 Rottie's over the yrs):
Rottweilers can be friends, therapy dogs, too
(from Pet Tales with Linda Wilson Fuoco)
When Judy Gates saw a big black and tan dog wandering in a North Hills shopping center parking lot on a cold, January night, she was sad. The dog had no collar, its head was hanging down and it had that scared, lost look that tugs at the heartstrings of dog lovers.
Gates hesitated for only a second. Then, in a giant leap of faith, she opened the back door of her car and invited the dog in.
Gates briefly had second thoughts as she was driving to her Cranberry home, for she knew what the dog was. The nearly-100-pound canine was a Rottweiler - a breed sharp of tooth and strong of jaw, a breed that is feared and even hated in many quarters.
"I looked in the rearview mirror and the dog was sitting quietly in the back seat, looking relieved and happy," Gates says one year later.
Gates never found the owner, though she contacted police departments and pursued every avenue she could think of. But that was OK because, Gates relates, "I fell in love with her right away."
So did her two Labrador retrievers, Brittany, 6, and Gypsy, 14.
She named her Carlee, in honor of Carl, the gentle, baby-sitting male Rottweiler featured in the wonderful children's books by Alexandra Day. Gates' veterinarian thinks Carlee is about 3 years old.
I met Carlee recently as she visited patients at UPMC Passavant hospital in McCandless. She calmly walked up to patients in wheelchairs, gazed into their eyes and wagged her stumpy tail when petted. She quietly approached patients in hospital beds, bringing smiles to faces that had been furrowed with anxiety and pain.
One elderly woman tentatively put her hand out to Carlee and said, "Shake!" She crowed with delight when the command was obeyed.
I stooped down to pet her, and Carlee licked my face. I didn't see her lick any patients, but she seemed to know that I welcome this kind of attention. This is one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. It breaks my heart to know that many, many people - including elected officials - think that all Rottweilers should be banned.
Carlee is not an aberration. Rottweilers regularly rack up high scores in obedience trials. They are often used as service dogs for people in wheelchairs. They do stellar work for police departments; the same dogs that attack "bad guys" gently meet and greet schoolchildren in "Officer Friendly" programs. And they are loving, devoted pets for many, many families.
Rottweilers are so good at these things because they are smart, versatile, highly trainable, loyal, loving, brave and oh-so-willing to please the people they love. But in the hands of the wrong people, a Rottweiler or a big, powerful dog of any breed is an absolute menace. Don't blame or ban an entire breed.
Perhaps you've heard that Rottweilers are vicious toward other dogs. You should see Carlee with her therapy co-workers - Oliver, a Newfoundland owned by Mary O'Day of Franklin Park and Cali, a Labrador retriever owned by Meg Yates of Cranberry. Oliver and Cali are just as wonderful as Carlee, but people usually aren't surprised to meet a "nice" Newf or a lovable Lab.
Gates, a lifelong Lab owner, says she has always admired therapy dogs. She always thought her own pets were a bit too exuberant for therapy work. Until she rescued Carlee.
Blessed with the perfect therapy dog temperament, Carlee functions as an ambassador for her bedeviled breed.
"My mission is to defend this breed," Gates said. "By taking Carlee to hospitals and nursing homes, I can show everyone that this is a really good breed."
As a little extra insurance, Gates took Carlee to the Paws-Itive Academy training facility in Crafton. On her very first try, Carlee passed the therapy dog certification test. It includes greeting strangers - human and canine - with no show of fear, aggression or boisterous affection.
"I gave a speech about Carlee and Rottweilers in Toastmasters. People said they had no idea that some breeds are so threatened."
So kudos to UPMC for inviting Carlee and other therapy dogs into medical facilities. And kudos to owners like Gates, O'Day and Yates for finding time in their busy schedules to share their wonderful dogs with patients who need a morale boost. Gates works at Passavant as a clinical dietitian by day, and a volunteer by night.
As for Carlee,with a nod to Alexandra Day who always ends her books with: "Good dog, Carl!",I'll end this column with "Good dog, Carlee!"
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Are you kidding, If you break into my home,... ah lets just say it'll be the last fucking time... Hey, it's as American as guns and apple pie... We have a right to protect our lives and private property. First of all there are no details to this story but it didn't stop you from saying what needs to happen ::) Wait until the facts are posted before determining who's guilty and why. Everytime something like this happens, there are cries to get rid of the whole dog breed. That's what I meant about here we go again... Some want to get rid of the most dangerous dogs. Then when they're gone, there is a next most dangerous dog, get rid of them then, and the what... Oh then there's a next most dangerous dog, German Shepherds.... You're getting rid of those in America over my dead body mother fucker. This is a tragedy, the answer is not getting rid of the dogs. Get rid of the bad dog owners. Don't take it out on the owners who have done everything right because they ARE the majority. That's what I meant by here we go again... This conversation always get launched by hot heads emotionalized by the story rather than common sense.
yada yada??? You're a Jewish Nordic Superman?
A nordic jew? ???
That makes as much sense as islam being a peaceful religion.
What would happen if...
All vicious breeds of dogs were banned (excluding police force etc). Would less people die?
YES/NO
I don't want some libby faggo answer skirting round the question...
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A nordic jew? ???
That makes as much sense as islam being a peaceful religion.
What would happen if...
All vicious breeds of dogs were banned (excluding police force etc). Would less people die?
YES/NO
I don't want some libby faggo answer skirting round the question...
Exactly why you need to keep your fucking British politics confined to your own goddamned country... f**k off now...
Come on.... Am I the only person who thinks it sounds strange to hear a guy calling himself Nordic Superman saying "Yada Yada" ;D It's a little funny... Laugh it off ;D
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All about the owners. Good dogs and bad dogs, and both need attention if you bring them in your home and you are held responsible for the dogs actions, why 2 dogs that are big and like to fight and play with each other are around a baby is careless, and sad.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82950.msg1189289#msg1189289
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A nordic jew? ???
That makes as much sense as islam being a peaceful religion.
What would happen if...
All vicious breeds of dogs were banned (excluding police force etc). Would less people die?
YES/NO
I don't want some libby faggo answer skirting round the question...
Ban the damn things!
Seriously, I've heard so many stories of attacks, most of which don't even make the news and I'm in NY where a lot of attacks by breeds such as pits and rottweillers take place everyday.
I know there are responsible owners out there that take good care of their dogs and their dogs are tame, but a lot of owners don't. If people can't be responsible and are putting others at risk, then they shouldn't keep these breeds. It's sad that you have these wanna-be gangster assholes who always own these dogs and think it's cool or something when they attack another person. ::)
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Pitbulls and Rot(ten)weilers are naturally aggressive dogs. Hell, I say toss the parents to the dogs too for being so fucking stupid.
Oh brother..... Scientific proof disputes that claim... You are blatently wrong with that statement.
To the parents of this child. Great job leaving your baby alone with giant dogs capable of doing just this. ANIMALS people dogs are ANIMALS. This has happened with every breed you can think off. This is not a rotweiler thing. I love how pits get brought into this also. Where they pits ::) Where was the outrage a few months back when a child was killed by a lab mix... Oh ya none of you heard of that one ::) Everybody looses in this situation. The dogs, the parents who suffered this horrible loss, the entire rot population and hell pitbulls since everything that happens bad in the world pitbulls are blamed somehow. The parents could have prevented this from happening. If they left this baby alone with these dogs they should go to jail. If they abused or did not know what they where doing when raising these dogs they should go to jail. Remeber what I typed about a pack mentality? The WORST thing you can do is leave a "pack" of dominent dogs alone with a small child or person they can mistake for "prey" insticts can take over and this is the end result.
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Sweet Jesus that is bad. My god. The only way this crap is going to stop is if owners get some very serious jail time. My heart goes out to that baby and family.
Exactly. The dog is an ANIMAL!!!!!!! How many times do people need to be told this. DOGS ARE FUCKING ANIMALS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIFER RIGHT FROM WRONG. That baby should have never been left alone with those dogs! No breed should EVER be left alone with kids. This happens all the time with all types of breeds looks it up people. The dogs should obv be put down after this. But how the hell can you blame a breed of animal. The owners of these dogs have 2 people to blame for this. Themselves.
The headline should read " Parents under arrest for negligence in childs death by dogs".
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these people need these dogs because they know they are pussies and the macho dogs make them feel tough
why do scumbags always own pitbulls and rottweilers?
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Earl you calling me a scumbag? Do I own Frankie (American bulldog) to be tougher? 90 percent of the people who see my dog go crazy about how "cute" he is. They love his markings and patches of brindle. He is considered a "dangerous" dog. My dog is at the dog park all the time. Most all the dogs who are causing trouble and starting fights are mutts or toy breeds. Never have I seen a pit rotty or ab start a single dog fight in over 4 years.
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Pitbulls and Rot(ten)weilers are naturally aggressive dogs. Hell, I say toss the parents to the dogs too for being so fucking stupid.
naturally aggressive?
I guess you have never played with a Chihuahua or Jack Russell Terrier?
I would have to say....I've been around a total of 14 different Rotties...& out of that...only 1 had behavior problems & this was due because he was an abuzed dog.
I can probably think of a dozen small dogs (poodles, terriers, & Chi's) that I've been nipped by
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Here's an update
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/5375520.stm
Baby dies after Rottweiler attack
A five-month-old girl has died after being attacked by two Rottweiler dogs in Leicester.
Emergency services were called to Stephenson Drive in the New Parks area of the city at 1500 GMT on Saturday.
The baby was upstairs in a pub called The Rocket where her mother and her new partner were living.
A member of the family said one of the dogs dragged the child onto the roof. She was taken to the Leicester Royal Infirmary but died from her injuries.
Police have begun an investigation to try to find out what happened.
"The dogs are very aggressive - everybody around here is petrified of them" Neighbour Amy Grimbley
A police spokesman said officers would be seeking a destruction order for the dogs.
Flowers and teddy bears have been left in the doorway of the pub which has been closed since the incident.
Neighbour Amy Grimbley said: "The dogs are known to be vicious. They stay on the roof during the day and whenever you walk past, you get the feeling they could jump down and attack you.
"The dogs are very aggressive. Everybody around here is petrified of them."
She added: "There's a school opposite the pub and nobody is happy walking their kids past the pub after school. I've got a three-year-old and I don't feel at all safe walking past them."
Ms Grimbley's father, James, said: "Our hearts go out to the parents of that poor baby. Everybody is so shocked at what has happened.
"Everybody is talking about it. Nobody can believe it."
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Published: 2006/09/24 17:27:07 GMT
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Dogs DO NOT get aggressive for fun. These dogs where obviously either abused or totally neglected when raised. You have to raise a dominant dog correctly of any breed. People who raise there animals the right way do NOT have reputations for there scary dogs around town. Fucking idiots. I bet they will blame the dogs as they will have to live with the fact they facilitated there child's awful death. I feel very badly for this child.
For all you people who run and blame the dogs. You better be able to blame anything for everything. These parents are the type of people who would leave there child alone with a tub full of water and a toaster plugged into the wall. I call for a ban on toasters and bath water!
These dogs need to be put down. But it was NOT there fault. Rots do not kill kids by nature! Untrained, unaltered dominent breeds have a strong small prey drive. Hence these dogs and a child being an accident waiting to happen.
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Ban the damn things!
Seriously, I've heard so many stories of attacks, most of which don't even make the news and I'm in NY where a lot of attacks by breeds such as pits and rottweillers take place everyday.
I know there are responsible owners out there that take good care of their dogs and their dogs are tame, but a lot of owners don't. If people can't be responsible and are putting others at risk, then they shouldn't keep these breeds. It's sad that you have these wanna-be gangster assholes who always own these dogs and think it's cool or something when they attack another person. ::)
Gotta side against you on this.
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The owners of these dogs & the parents of the neglected baby....sound "colorful" to say the least.
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We should ban cats aswell, those fuckers scratch
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We should ban cats aswell, those fuckers scratch
they're natural born hunters
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Earl you calling me a scumbag? Do I own Frankie (American bulldog) to be tougher? 90 percent of the people who see my dog go crazy about how "cute" he is. They love his markings and patches of brindle. He is considered a "dangerous" dog. My dog is at the dog park all the time. Most all the dogs who are causing trouble and starting fights are mutts or toy breeds. Never have I seen a pit rotty or ab start a single dog fight in over 4 years.
no sir :-X
are you saying that many people don't own these dogs because they need to feel macho? almost every guy i've ever known that had one of these dogs always tried to portray some sort of tough guy image
I own a pomeranian and i'm as macho as it gets, I don't need a big mean dog to feel tough like most of the idiot owners of these dogs do 8)
everytime I hear about a dog attack it is always the same breeds
it's never a golden retriever or a great dane
it's both bad owners and bad dogs
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no sir :-X
are you saying that many people don't own these dogs because they need to feel macho? almost every guy i've ever known that had one of these dogs always tried to portray some sort of tough guy image
I own a pomeranian and i'm as macho as it gets, I don't need a big mean dog to feel tough like most of the idiot owners of these dogs do 8)
everytime I hear about a dog attack it is always the same breeds
it's never a golden retriever or a great dane
it's both bad owners and bad dogs
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I agree that macho idiots do own these dogs to feel "tougher". I bet they also own guns and swords and anything else you can think off to pump there ego up. My point is the people who need to be punished and are causing this problem are right in front of us all. You said it. Macho idiots using animals as weapons that would be just as happy properly socialized and trained making older patients smile in hospitals. Dogs are not born mean. There are millions of normal people who own pitbulls abs and rottys. My mother is 60 years old and loves my puppy. She loves the breed and is in the process of getting her own ab bull.
I think you hear about the same old breeds because the news and media only reports attacks by the "same old breeds". I have tons of research and information of every breed you can think off hurting or mauling humans in my quest to edjucate people about pitbulls and other breeds. To be honest small dogs like chihuahua's are much more unstable than dogs like pits and Ab's. The snippiest most high strung dogs are almost always toys. Obviously if a large dog like a pit attacks a human it will do much more damage. But in a small child's case a 10 lb terrier can be deadly. A puppy is a puppy. It is all in how to raise them. Great Dane or Pomeranian they need to be raised correctly. You skip out on the basics of socialization with dominant male breeds and the bad things you read can happen. These tough guys are really fucking shit up for people like me. I cannot really explain why I like American bulldogs, pitbulls and dogs of that nature. I do not need an ego boost nor do I feel tougher.I just like the way there faces look! I like there markings and personality. I will always own standard or hybrid bulls. But that said I love all animals. I am not a huge fan of dobermans nor do I particularly like German Shepard's. I do like all dogs but just because a dog is "tough" it does not draw me to them. The funny thing is the city of San Fransisco which was crying about the huge pitbull problem they had logged about 300 bites (total for all breeds) one particular year. Down 15 percent and the lowest rate they had ever had ::) One thing will solve this issue on both sides. Tougher laws against negligent owners,dogfighters and back yard breeders. Education about these breeds to the general public. Lastly there needs to be reasonable restrictions with breeds able to cause serious harm. Reasonable.... Not ridiculous. Some assclown who has never owned a pit knows nothing about them and is looking for votes to win some election will never tell me what I can and cannot own.
Can I agree with people not wanting a 70 lb pitbull in the hands of a convicted fellon or previous dog fighter and or abuser of animals? Yes. Can I also agree with parents concerned if a neigher has a giant mastiff that has become aggressive due to the owners lack of knowledge and or motivation to train it? Yep. There are many ways these problems I have stated can be dealt with without unfairly black balling and baning a breed that is perfectly normal 99.9 percent of the time. Punish the people who facilitate the problem. Not the animal they use. The dog did not choose that way of life!
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these dogs are an abomination >:(
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Yep. I agree.
Put 'em all to sleep.........
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Yep. I agree.
Put 'em all to sleep.........
Haha what are you going to do when that same tough guy scumbag gets loaded and blows your head off at the bar for looking at him wrong?
Obviously hope your family sues the gun company correct? Get the guns outlawed then you will be safer! Forget the guy who pulled the trigger!
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When I read the title to this thread I knew body88 would be in it. I agree with him 100%. I have been around several Rots in My life and none of them were mean at all.That's because they were not made mean by the owners,however,the owners knew the potential was there and were responsible with their animal.Who knows why the dogs attacked this child,but they are animals and they had some reason.They do not understand that it is a baby and that what they did was so horrible.Pet owners must take responsibility for the actions of their animals.If you had a pet python,you would not leave it with your baby would you?
p.s. Good looking pup Body, looks ferocious.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96401.0;attach=104220;image)
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The same people who agree with banning or killing entire breeds of dogs over a few isolated incidents, facilitated 99.99999 percent of the time by humans neglecting, abusing or trainging them to attack people. Are the same people who say we should kill everyone in the muslim world over the actions of some extremists ::) If you agree with one and not the other you are a hypocrite!
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When I read the title to this thread I knew body88 would be in it. I agree with him 100%. I have been around several Rots in My life and none of them were mean at all.That's because they were not made mean by the owners,however,the owners knew the potential was there and were responsible with their animal.Who knows why the dogs attacked this child,but they are animals and they had some reason.They do not understand that it is a baby and that what they did was so horrible.Pet owners must take responsibility for the actions of their animals.If you had a pet python,you would not leave it with your baby would you?
p.s. Good looking pup Body, looks ferocious.
Thanks man. He looks ferocious but he is a big teddy bear. That chain he has on in those pics is 22 inches.Growing like a weed at the moment. He is very calm and social.Just last night my 3 year old nephew was over for a dinner with my sister. He played with Frankie under my supervision all night. he adores the dog. Great with kids. Very patient and gentle.He will be 9 months next week. You are correct 100 percent with your post. I know when I get my pet grizzley bear the first thing I will do is leave him alone with my new born baby!
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I agree that macho idiots do own these dogs to feel "tougher". I bet they also own guns and swords and anything else you can think off to pump there ego up. My point is the people who need to be punished and are causing this problem are right in front of us all. You said it. Macho idiots using animals as weapons that would be just as happy properly socialized and trained making older patients smile in hospitals. Dogs are not born mean. There are millions of normal people who own pitbulls abs and rottys. My mother is 60 years old and loves my puppy. She loves the breed and is in the process of getting her own ab bull.
I think you hear about the same old breeds because the news and media only reports attacks by the "same old breeds". I have tons of research and information of every breed you can think off hurting or mauling humans in my quest to edjucate people about pitbulls and other breeds. To be honest small dogs like chihuahua's are much more unstable than dogs like pits and Ab's. The snippiest most high strung dogs are almost always toys. Obviously if a large dog like a pit attacks a human it will do much more damage. But in a small child's case a 10 lb terrier can be deadly. A puppy is a puppy. It is all in how to raise them. Great Dane or Pomeranian they need to be raised correctly. You skip out on the basics of socialization with dominant male breeds and the bad things you read can happen. These tough guys are really fucking shit up for people like me. I cannot really explain why I like American bulldogs, pitbulls and dogs of that nature. I do not need an ego boost nor do I feel tougher.I just like the way there faces look! I like there markings and personality. I will always own standard or hybrid bulls. But that said I love all animals. I am not a huge fan of dobermans nor do I particularly like German Shepard's. I do like all dogs but just because a dog is "tough" it does not draw me to them. The funny thing is the city of San Fransisco which was crying about the huge pitbull problem they had logged about 300 bites (total for all breeds) one particular year. Down 15 percent and the lowest rate they had ever had ::) One thing will solve this issue on both sides. Tougher laws against negligent owners,dogfighters and back yard breeders. Education about these breeds to the general public. Lastly there needs to be reasonable restrictions with breeds able to cause serious harm. Reasonable.... Not ridiculous. Some assclown who has never owned a pit knows nothing about them and is looking for votes to win some election will never tell me what I can and cannot own.
Can I agree with people not wanting a 70 lb pitbull in the hands of a convicted fellon or previous dog fighter and or abuser of animals? Yes. Can I also agree with parents concerned if a neigher has a giant mastiff that has become aggressive due to the owners lack of knowledge and or motivation to train it? Yep. There are many ways these problems I have stated can be dealt with without unfairly black balling and baning a breed that is perfectly normal 99.9 percent of the time. Punish the people who facilitate the problem. Not the animal they use. The dog did not choose that way of life!
damn body you're really passionate about these dogs aren't ya :)
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damn body you're really passionate about these dogs aren't ya :)
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Yeah. Most people think It is a bit odd. I love animals. After owning pitbulls and now an American bulldog I defend them against myths and media idiots looking for attention.
I do not expect people to all the sudden love these breeds of animals. In the wrong hands they can be very dangerous. I just want people to see it is not a "pitbull thing". You have every right to your opinion and I am sure the aggressive dogs you have interacted with where in fact aggressive animals. I just want people to have an understanding this whole mess is not the pitbulls fault. It is those who exploit the pitbulls ability to do harm and toughen up there own egos.
If people would just let the myths go and listen to people like myself they would see we do not want to run free with dogs that can hurt people. We want legislation to stop violent dog attacks just as bad as the rest of you. The difference is we see the issue is not with the pitbull but the people who are carelessly breeding them, pitfighting them and basically turning them into monsters for there own protection or small mans complex. We want to be able to own our breeds in peace and cause no harm to anyone. I don't think there is a pitbull or so called "dangerous dog advocate" that would not agree something needs to be done to stop these breeds from being exploited and abused. We just do not agree with an outright ban. The last thing I would ever want is for a child to be hurt by ANY form of dog.
Politicians love issues like pitbulls. They don't need much knowledge on the issue. They have proof in a dog attack (totally disregarding if the dog was socialized , neutered,abused or trained) and latching on to the fact and entire breed is dangerous. They make a large number of ingnortant ,angry and scared people happy, get the votes they need and can say they did something! There are several clinical and scientific studies listing pitbulls and bulldogs to have a better temperament than 99 percent of all dogs. Yet the anti pit people go find some slummed out,inbred, former pit fighting, abused pitbull and show how dangerous he is ::)
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well i wouldnt leave princess alone with any dog...but if i was neglecting her i hope i would leave her alone with a big dog than a little one...
now my dad has one 80 plus chesepeake bay retriever and 100 plus chessy...now princess has no fear of these dogs..so far she doesnt pull on their ears or tails or anything like that..she knows to do nice..she is always happy when she sees them...however, my parents neighboors have 3 mini weiner dogs..and she cried the first time she saw them...all they do is bark besides they are mean little fuckers...
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Anybody wishing to "get rid" of their dog can do it humanely. Just send it to a starving Asian Family. That way you solve 2 problems at one time! ;D