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Ruhl second !
can't wait to see the pics
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1) Paco Bautista
2) Markus Ruhl
3) Dennis Wolf
4) Silvio Samuel
5) Daniel Sacrecci
Here it´s the results http://www.culturismodigital.com/web/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1438
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wolf got third in a highly competitive show
kamali...how do you like dem apples
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no way....what the hell can paco do to fix his structure/...in 1-2 years?....although props to him for his first pro win
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A intelligent person, first wait to wath pics... a fool don´t do that, simply say nonsenses....
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no way....what the hell can paco do to fix his structure/...in 1-2 years?....although props to him for his first pro win
maybe he was way harder than Ruhl, it is possible since Paco is always shredded
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Im guessing Paco won because he is from spain and the show was held in spain. No way is paco ever beating Ruhl on american soil.
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Im guessing Paco won because he is from spain and the show was held in spain. No way is paco ever beating Ruhl on american soil.
Seriously.
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When i was a teen i saw paco in a magazine, and i was very much in awe of him. Maybe not the prettiest physique, but he was HUGE. His competitive career seemed not to take off though..
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wow Im surprised Paco won a pro show-------remember when he had that horrible gyno
his quads were always freaky though
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Im guessing Paco won because he is from spain and the show was held in spain. No way is paco ever beating Ruhl on american soil.
Bias and favoritism in bodybuiling? Who knew? ::)
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Im guessing Paco won because he is from spain and the show was held in spain. No way is paco ever beating Ruhl on american soil.
agreed. markus was lightyears ahead of paco. nothing taken away from paco, but markus was way better this contest...
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Im guessing Paco won because he is from spain and the show was held in spain. No way is paco ever beating Ruhl on american soil.
That kind of crap is so obvious, I can't believe that both the judges and the guy who gets the gift aren't totally embarrassed.
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Jesus! I wonder if Ruhl freaked out; Paco's a freak but has got no chance at the O.
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wow Im surprised Paco won a pro show
Me too, the pics shall be interesting.
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Does anyone know where Chuck Sanow placed? I think he was the only guy from the USA in the show.
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Does anyone know where Chuck Sanow placed? I think he was the only guy from the USA in the show.
He is still competing??!?!?
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The 5th place at his first pro tournament of Daniele Seccarecci is really impressive. He's still very young and for a tall guy he's got an excellent structure.
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Paco had the best conditioning on stage. Unbelievably dry and shredded.
His waist is very wide though and doesn't have a good taper. Also short arms and his chest is fair.
I would have had Dennis and Markus ahead of him but Paco's conditioning was incredible and he deserved a top placing.
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He is still competing??!?!?
Yeah he won his pro card last year at the masters nationals (I think that was the show) This was his pro debut, Guessing he placed pretty far back as this was a tough show. Anyone heard?
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thats not a good sign for ruhl.
paco gets shredded and has crazy legs but a very ugly structure...ruhl most have really been off.
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holy hell...i am shocked..... :o :o :o.paco beats ruhl....WAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!11
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some needs to put up some pics so we can see this shasams!
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Paco is a monster. Top form, he can beat Ruhl.
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http://www.bbszene.de tons of pics of Paco , Ruhl and the event
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I might be the only guy on here who feels this way but I jsut don't like Markus physique. He's huge but he has almost no detail at all. Even when he placed 5th at the O he was devoid of detail, just big bloated muscle....he's a freak and everything but he's just missing so much. I thought he looked waaay better when he first showed up at the NOC a few years ago, he was detailed, hard and awsome. Does he even have a seratus anymore?
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http://www.bbszene.de tons of pics of Paco , Ruhl and the event
Holy shit! Even the guy next to Ruhl knows what a freak he is. The fact that his abs are ripped makes his upperbody look so much bigger than it really is.
Paco deserved 1st. I'm not sure if Ruhl deserved 2nd, but top 4 at least. If Dennis Wolf doesn't make it big, or at least top of the 2nd-tier shows in the coming few years, it will be a shame.
Does anyone else think this was a great showing by nearly everyone? Not like some show where only 2 out of 20 are in shape.
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Paco whilst still blocky(well Ruhl aint no Bob Paris), looked tight. And definitely more dialed-in than Markus.
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Paco is a monster. Top form, he can beat Ruhl.
dude ruhl was almost 100%..he was looking freaky as hell.i am also a big big fan of paco bautista.paco was overlooked too many times in the past.he deserved a good placing but beating an in shape ruhl is not wat i wanted.i had this spainsh bull in 2nd place.no way he is good enough to beat big bad ruhl...i am stil shocked..i am not gonna sleep today...holly hell...ruhl 2nd.. ??? ??? ???and paco 1st!!!!WAAAAAT!!!
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dude ruhl was almost 100%..he was looking freaky as hell.i am also a big big fan of paco bautista.paco was overlooked too many times in the past.he deserved a good placing but beating an in shape ruhl is not wat i wanted.i had this spainsh bull in 2nd place.no way he is good enough to beat big bad ruhl...i am stil shocked..i am not gonna sleep today...holly hell...ruhl 2nd.. ??? ??? ???and paco 1st!!!!WAAAAAT!!!
I was there yesterday.
Paco and Markus was like "Orange and Apple".
In symetry round. Of course, Markus was doing better. But,his back was way off.
Paco was just crazy. He looked like somebody took off his skin...JUST UNBELIEBABLE.
So when musclarity round came, Paco began to shine. And this is the result.
But,telling you, he was not clear winner. But, I can admit his win surely for that unreal condition.
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complete results
1 Paco Bautista
2 Markus Ruhl
3 Dennis Wolf
4 Silvio Samuel Saviour
5 Daniele Seccarecci
6 Jaroslav Horvath
7 Sergey Shelestov
8 Marcos Chacón
9 Thomas Benagli
10 Eddie Abbew
11 Sergei Ogorodnikov
12 Hidetada Yamagishi
13 Tommi Thorvildsen
14 Jorge Jose Alves
15 Trevor Crouch
16 John Hodgson
17 Ricky Welling
18 Christian Lobarede
19 Aiman Faour
20 Manfred Petautschnig
21 Jan Morten Thonvasen
22 Armando Alcazar
23 Michelino Milazzo
24 Alison Maria
25 Chuck Sanow
26 Fabrizio Zittugro
27 Shehab Eldin Aly
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I was there yesterday.
Paco and Markus was like "Orange and Apple".
In symetry round. Of course, Markus was doing better. But,his back was way off.
Paco was just crazy. He looked like somebody took off his skin...JUST UNBELIEBABLE.
So when musclarity round came, Paco began to shine. And this is the result.
But,telling you, he was not clear winner. But, I can admit his win surely for that unreal condition.
Which one was the orange, and which was the apple?
If Paco was skinless, does that mean he looked like a peeled orange or apple? If thats the case, I'd presume he looked like an orange, as peeled oranges show much more definition and vascularity than apples. And that would make us assume Ruhl looked like an apple, which you didnt specify was peeled or not.
Sounds like a big fruit salad, if you ask me...
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Paco whilst still blocky(well Ruhl aint no Bob Paris), looked tight. And definitely more dialed-in than Markus.
He's no Bob Paris RUHL LIKES PUSSY!!
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Which one was the orange, and which was the apple?
If Paco was skinless, does that mean he looked like a peeled orange or apple? If thats the case, I'd presume he looked like an orange, as peeled oranges show much more definition and vascularity than apples. And that would make us assume Ruhl looked like an apple, which you didnt specify was peeled or not.
Sounds like a big fruit salad, if you ask me...
Dude go rearrange your action figures
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Which one was the orange, and which was the apple?
If Paco was skinless, does that mean he looked like a peeled orange or apple? If thats the case, I'd presume he looked like an orange, as peeled oranges show much more definition and vascularity than apples. And that would make us assume Ruhl looked like an apple, which you didnt specify was peeled or not.
Sounds like a big fruit salad, if you ask me...
Damn stupid.
Just I wanted to say that two very different thing, you cant compare.
Dont complicate.
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Dude go rearrange your action figures
Whats the prob, Ruhl being compared to an apple or Paris?
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And also,Daniele Seccarecci was very tall huge guy with Dennis wolf like proportion.
He will be one of the top someday.
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Whats the prob, Ruhl being compared to an apple or Paris?
you're over analysing and it makes you sound like a fucken geek. that was my point sweety.
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Damn stupid.
Just I wanted to say that two very different thing, you cant compare.
Dont complicate.
Next time:
Apples and Oranges.
Your stupidity or lack of mastering English as a 2nd language, is no need for you to get upset over my comment. Just fooling around. ;D
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you're over analysing and it makes you sound like a fucken geek. that was my point sweety.
Fathead, you're the one getting tense about your boy Ruhl, and sensitive to him getting compared to Paris.
Whos the sweety?
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Next time:
Apples and Oranges.
Your stupidity or lack of mastering English as a 2nd language, is no need for you to get upset over my comment. Just fooling around. ;D
I am very proud of not being native english speaker. Becuase English is so simple language.
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I am very proud of not being native english speaker. Becuase English is so simple language.
Also not my first language, but if you dislike it so much, what are you doing here, find a board where you can explore the full extent and depth of your 1st language. Or is it because there isnt one, as English dominates the 1st World?
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Fathead, you're the one getting tense about your boy Ruhl, and sensitive to him getting compared to Paris.
Whos the sweety?
Listen Bambi... I'm Spanish I'm happy as hell that spick won the show. I was saying Markus Ruhl is no homo.
now go wash your pussy :)
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Spanish and not homo. Now theres a contradiction.
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You guine goomba dago wop motherf'er go wipe the garlic crumbs off your gold chains. I'm assuming you're Italian (hence the name Figo) If you're not I'm sorry please let me know what you are so I can use the appropriate insults thank you princess
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I'm really getting worried with the princess/bambi stuff, you're not some stalker fag, are you? Pretty sure theres other boards out there for you.
Do you reside in Spain, or know anything about European culture, because due to your mastery of the english language, and inability to put the name Figo to my actual ancestry, makes me think you dont, and reside elsewhere, probably 2nd generation Spaniard, trying to cling on to somewhere to belong.
And this explain you standing up for our friend with the fruits, as he probably is spanish too.
Just a guess. Anyway, get that latent homosexuality checked out.
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Born there, I live in Cali.
So what are you Pollak,a Heb,part towel head,dirty puerto rican?
I don't wanna offend you buttercup
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We're neighbours my brother. As in European neighbours, not Cali.
All bulshit aside, congrats on your Spanish boy winning the show, fukcing unbelievable legs. And beating Ruhl to top it off, takes the cake. And he got that conditioning spot-on with a smaller waist.
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I'm just happy to see white people winning. ;D
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seriously when was the last time there was a top 3 without any brothers in it?
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from the pics i've seen, ruhl should have won.
paco was just the hometown boy. no taper whatsoever.
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The PDI show was won by a tatooed white-boy with blonde hair from Australia.
Dont know who came 2nd and 3rd.
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from the pics i've seen, ruhl should have won.
paco was just the hometown boy. no taper whatsoever.
Sorry if we know how to fix a show and make look realistic. They did it for gunter in 2002 . Why can't Spain have a little fun. If it was in Nigeria Silvio would of won. Dorian always had his English Grand Prix home coming party. Priest had Australia 2 years ago.
Have a show in Germany and give it to Ruhl then everybody can be happy.
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complete results
1 Paco Bautista
2 Markus Ruhl
3 Dennis Wolf
4 Silvio Samuel Saviour
5 Daniele Seccarecci
6 Jaroslav Horvath
7 Sergey Shelestov
8 Marcos Chacón
9 Thomas Benagli
10 Eddie Abbew
11 Sergei Ogorodnikov
12 Hidetada Yamagishi
13 Tommi Thorvildsen
14 Jorge Jose Alves
15 Trevor Crouch
16 John Hodgson
17 Ricky Welling
18 Christian Lobarede
19 Aiman Faour
20 Manfred Petautschnig
21 Jan Morten Thonvasen
22 Armando Alcazar
23 Michelino Milazzo
24 Alison Maria
25 Chuck Sanow
26 Fabrizio Zittugro
27 Shehab Eldin Aly
Thank you :)
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from the pics i've seen, ruhl should have won.
paco was just the hometown boy. no taper whatsoever.
Yes from the pic. You are right.
But,you see them on stage directly,you will understand why.
Paco was just looked like some kind of alien.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kornb1ind/_G9R0659.jpg)
Holy f**k it looks like that old dude ate Vern Troyer...
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dude ruhl was almost 100%..he was looking freaky as hell.i am also a big big fan of paco bautista.paco was overlooked too many times in the past.he deserved a good placing but beating an in shape ruhl is not wat i wanted.i had this spainsh bull in 2nd place.no way he is good enough to beat big bad ruhl...i am stil shocked..i am not gonna sleep today...holly hell...ruhl 2nd.. ??? ??? ???and paco 1st!!!!WAAAAAT!!!
Ruhl's upperbody had more mass than Paco's, but he was not as trimmed. Although smaller, Paco's chest was more detailed. He smoked Ruhl on legs, no question. Ruhl had him on mass only. Ruhl had him on front lat spread. Paco's legs may have given him the edge on Ruhl for the back lat spread. Paco nailed him on the back double bi, just as Ruhl was arguably better on front double bi. In the end, I give it to Paco based on conditioning. Very close though. In another country, it may have swung the other way.
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Congrats Paco on your entrance into the IFBB Pro winners' circle.
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Figo is a postuguesse soccer player. Now playing in Italy.
I think Paco won cause his condition, nobady has it like him.
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And so.
When I asked Milos about this result and he said" Bull shit that Dennis didnt win.".
And told me Olympia will be "another story" mentionning the gut of Rhul (Cus Paco have big waist but he dont have that big gut.)
So HOW DO YOU THINK GET BIGGERS? IS MILOS RIGHT?
I think Milos persist in waist line of BBers too much.And got blind of another matters like Mass and condition.
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And so.
When I asked Milos about this result and he said" Bull shit that Dennis didnt win.".
And told me Olympia will be "another story" mentionning the gut of Rhul (Cus Paco have big waist but he dont have that big gut.)
So HOW DO YOU THINK GET BIGGERS? IS MILOS RIGHT?
I think Milos persist in waist line of BBers too much.And got blind of another matters like Mass and condition.
I think he's totally right. Sorry, size and conditioning are important but you cannot have a big ass guy hanging out there. It reeks of too much drugs. When did belly's start showing up? When everybody and thier sister started coming in at 250+, there was not a problem in the early to mid 90's and look at pics from any show back then and they were just as hard and more defined than the guys today. They might have only weighed in the 230's but they were awsome none the less. Hell look at Markus when he did his first NOC, he was awsome, big, ripped, detailed....incredible. Now he's big but looks bloated and has no detail. You could take Markus even when he placed 5th at the olympia and put him in the 93 olympia and I bet he's place lowere. The standard back then was so much higher...does markus even have a seratus anymore? Shawn Ray 96, Labrada..any year for labrada, even early dorian and Ronnie in 98 are what BB should be about. The IFBB should be pushing guys like Dugdale, heathe and Richard Jones..they all have a certain quality to thier physiques that's been missing for years.
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Does Milos persist in the waist line? I mean Dennis has not by any means one of the best waist lines
in an Olimpia stage................... .............
No way that Dennis wolf ahead of Paco and Markus.
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I think he's totally right. Sorry, size and conditioning are important but you cannot have a big ass guy hanging out there. It reeks of too much drugs. When did belly's start showing up? When everybody and thier sister started coming in at 250+, there was not a problem in the early to mid 90's and look at pics from any show back then and they were just as hard and more defined than the guys today. They might have only weighed in the 230's but they were awsome none the less. Hell look at Markus when he did his first NOC, he was awsome, big, ripped, detailed....incredible. Now he's big but looks bloated and has no detail. You could take Markus even when he placed 5th at the olympia and put him in the 93 olympia and I bet he's place lowere. The standard back then was so much higher...does markus even have a seratus anymore? Shawn Ray 96, Labrada..any year for labrada, even early dorian and Ronnie in 98 are what BB should be about. The IFBB should be pushing guys like Dugdale, heathe and Richard Jones..they all have a certain quality to thier physiques that's been missing for years.
And you think he could beat Paco also?
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And you think he could beat Paco also?
who? Ruhl? No. I don't think either one of them shoudl be winning IFBB pro shows. Sorry. Paco, I have respect for because the guy is gigantic and he is very detailed. He does not have a "gut" that I can remember, he has a genetically large waiste just like Jim Quinn or Rich Gaspari but his is really, really bad. Out of all the guys in that show I'd say Wolf probably represents what a guy winning a pro show should look like.
Paco has awsome bodyparts and is a freak who can get totally ripped but he does not have the bone structure to be winning shows, he has NO taper what so ever. He's done alot with what he has and he's fun to look at just to see how far he can take it. Markus is gigantic that's why people love him but I don't like his physique, like i said before, he just doesn't look right to me.
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No way that Dennis wolf ahead of Paco and Markus.
Forget my post man, I was talking about Dennis James at the Olympia.
Sorry about that, he he.
Dennis wolf on the other hand has a very good waist line and physique but is not as inpressive as
Paco and Rhul.
To be sincere I wish they went back to the more asthetic physiques in the big shows, getting tired
of mass and only mass; even if I`m born in Spain and I`m glad of Pacos victory.
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holy hell...i am shocked..... :o :o :o.paco beats ruhl....WAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!11
I 2 that! I can't believe it! Ruhl is in HUGE condition, I don't think Paco can match Ruhl! Nevertheless, paco has great wheels!
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who? Ruhl? No. I don't think either one of them shoudl be winning IFBB pro shows. Sorry. Paco, I have respect for because the guy is gigantic and he is very detailed. He does not have a "gut" that I can remember, he has a genetically large waiste just like Jim Quinn or Rich Gaspari but his is really, really bad. Out of all the guys in that show I'd say Wolf probably represents what a guy winning a pro show should look like.
Paco has awsome bodyparts and is a freak who can get totally ripped but he does not have the bone structure to be winning shows, he has NO taper what so ever. He's done alot with what he has and he's fun to look at just to see how far he can take it. Markus is gigantic that's why people love him but I don't like his physique, like i said before, he just doesn't look right to me.
dude just remember one thing..bodybuilding is all about mass freaks and you just cannot change this fact..cry all you want dude because now the judges have officially opened their eyes and they do know that the deserving should get the win.like shawn ray said on PBW interview its not just the name game in bodybuilding. for eg in case of dillet he promised that he was going to win the montreal show but came up totally flat..so you have to prove you are awesome and now the IFBB judges are really looking into the fact the the athlete is in proper condition and this time around they are actually judging without favouring a known pro bodybuilder..so your theory sucks
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dude just remember one thing..bodybuilding is all about mass freaks and you just cannot change this fact..cry all you want dude because now the judges have officially opened their eyes and they do know that the deserving should get the win.like shawn ray said on PBW interview its not just the name game in bodybuilding. for eg in case of dillet he promised that he was going to win the montreal show but came up totally flat..so you have to prove you are awesome and now the IFBB judges are really looking into the fact the the athlete is in proper condition and this time around they are actually judging without favouring a known pro bodybuilder..so your theory sucks
uhhhh....what in the hell are you talking about? First I never said a word about names winning shows. Second, I think guys can be pretty damn big and still have a tight waist, look at the 91 olympia, Sonny Schmidt was what 245? Dorian was about the same and neither one of those guys had a gut. I think for the size they are gaining it's not worth the gut. That's what I was saying. Look at the detail on Ray or even on heath that's an aspect of BB just as much as how big you are. If you go for size for the sake of size the entire thing is moving in the wrong direction. If Dillet showed up in Montreal looking like he did in 94 or 95 he would have stomped everybody but he's a shadow of his former self. Compare ronnie from 98 to the guy who won the olympia last year.....what do you think better represents what BB is about? If you say last year, you don't have a clue about BB.
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uhhhh....what in the hell are you talking about? First I never said a word about names winning shows. Second, I think guys can be pretty damn big and still have a tight waist, look at the 91 olympia, Sonny Schmidt was what 245? Dorian was about the same and neither one of those guys had a gut. I think for the size they are gaining it's not worth the gut. That's what I was saying. Look at the detail on Ray or even on heath that's an aspect of BB just as much as how big you are. If you go for size for the sake of size the entire thing is moving in the wrong direction. If Dillet showed up in Montreal looking like he did in 94 or 95 he would have stomped everybody but he's a shadow of his former self. Compare ronnie from 98 to the guy who won the olympia last year.....what do you think better represents what BB is about? If you say last year, you don't have a clue about BB.
dude to me bodybuildig is all about mass monsters.in fact mass monsters =bodybuilding.its only because of the mass monsters this sport has survived...mass monsters is the reason i love bodybuilding..this is the truth and you can't handle the truth...NATURAL AL =OWNED
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dude to me bodybuildig is all about mass monsters.in fact mass monsters =bodybuilding.its only because of the mass monsters this sport has survived...mass monsters is the reason i love bodybuilding..this is the truth and you can't handle the truth...NATURAL AL =OWNED
again you don't know what your talking about. I don't understand why you wanna fight with me. first, mass is a big part of bodybuilding but it should not be the be all end all. If you sacrifice shape, definition and every other aspect it's not bodybuilding. You didn't address one thing I said. You're making an arguement about nothing. Ronnie was gigantic in 98 and pretty much represented everything BB should be, he doesn't anymore and if you think he does you don't know a thing about BB.
Second the sport is probably the LEAST popular it's been in years. When was the last time you saw BB on ESPN? Shit, it was all over the tube before all of this mass monster shit started....maybe your too young to remember that. So overall the sport has suffered since the mass monster became the it thing.
I'm sorry, you didn't own me and if you think you did you need to go ask someone what an "owning' is cause you don't have a clue.
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Natural al: you has totally the reason.
Bodybuilding days of mass monster (without the rest) died when guts died.
Bodybuilding is the art of ilusion.
Mass monsters are died, welcome to perfection monsters.
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Natural al: you has totally the reason.
Bodybuilding days of mass monster (without the rest) died when guts died.
Bodybuilding is the art of ilusion.
Mass monsters are died, welcome to perfection monsters.
thanks.......
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again you don't know what your talking about. I don't understand why you wanna fight with me. first, mass is a big part of bodybuilding but it should not be the be all end all. If you sacrifice shape, definition and every other aspect it's not bodybuilding. You didn't address one thing I said. You're making an arguement about nothing. Ronnie was gigantic in 98 and pretty much represented everything BB should be, he doesn't anymore and if you think he does you don't know a thing about BB.
Second the sport is probably the LEAST popular it's been in years. When was the last time you saw BB on ESPN? Shit, it was all over the tube before all of this mass monster shit started....maybe your too young to remember that. So overall the sport has suffered since the mass monster became the it thing.
I'm sorry, you didn't own me and if you think you did you need to go ask someone what an "owning' is cause you don't have a clue.
o rly
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Does it really matter who did what in this show? All three qualified for the Olympia which Ruhl will peak at. Small waist of not, Wolff's physique is incomplete with the high lats. Let's see where everyone places next week.
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Does it really matter who did what in this show? All three qualified for the Olympia which Ruhl will peak at. Small waist of not, Wolff's physique is incomplete with the high lats. Let's see where everyone places next week.
I hope Markus is in condition. Not like S susana. Honestly I was disapointed at him when I saw him on stage in s susana.
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Paco has freaky legs, but from the waist I get really confused. ???
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I think Dennis WOlf got shafted again. He should have won the show. Always the farthest person from the camera but he more than held his own in size, and clearly smoked both Paco and Ruhl in shape and symmetry. Paco was dryer than Wold, which should have had him at second, followed by Ruhl in third, or fourth.