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Title: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:13:52 PM
I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of 20 threads/minute about the same show, so let's do it here..

I'll start off - Ronnie's KILLIN' it!!!!

BTW-

Anyone notice they seem to be talkin a LOT of shit to each other on stage?? Vic and Ronnie just said something with some 'violent undertones'...
 :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:15:24 PM
vic the criminal vs ronnie the cop
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:16:22 PM
vic the criminal vs ronnie the cop

Haha, yeah.

Something else I just noticed... Ronnie's normally TERRIBLE Abs & Thighs pose.. is better than Jay's this year!! Anyone else see that?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2006, 08:19:38 PM
Haha, yeah.

Something else I just noticed... Ronnie's normally TERRIBLE Abs & Thighs pose.. is better than Jay's this year!! Anyone else see that?

fantastic
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:20:25 PM
it usually is better than jays.  form flex

First Callout
Martinez, Jackson, Cutler, Coleman

Jay getting crowd involved

Jay Cutler looked a bit flat earlier on is filling out a little bit now ... Jay still may find himself in fourth ...Ronnie the clear winner with Victor and Dexter very competitive towards each other ... Ronnie and Victor change places

Coleman, Jackson, Cutler, Victor

Jay and Victor shake hands, now standing together ... Jay is wider ... Jay from the side looking flat in the pecs compared to other guys ...

let's break down the battle for 2nd between Victor and Jay
Jay vs Victor
Front Double Bis - Victor
Front lat Spread - Jay
Side chest - draw
Back double biceps - Victor
Rear lat spread - Jay
Side triceps - draw
Abs and thighs - Victor
Most muscular - Jay

Second Callout
L to R
Anthony, Badell, Freeman, Warren

surprised not to see Troy Alves called out in this lineup as a second callout ... maybe Ruhl as well ... and the big shocker, which is Gunter
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:20:43 PM
OK! So given the way things look now, gimme your top 5s:
(Jay fans.. sorry ;)  he's done guys)

1. Ronnie
2. Vic
3. Jay
4. Dex
5. Markus or Toney

Gustavo? Hell no, he LITERALLY has a sagging gut this year, I mean it sags PAST his waistline. Don't believe me? I'm watching this webcast LIVE and if you need further proof, wait for a few pics of the cocky little bastard...
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Beener on September 29, 2006, 08:21:18 PM
Now they dont even HAVE a 500k Button anymore, its just for On Demand.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:23:42 PM
it usually is better than jays.  form flex

First Callout
Martinez, Jackson, Cutler, Coleman

Jay getting crowd involved

Jay Cutler looked a bit flat earlier on is filling out a little bit now ... Jay still may find himself in fourth ...Ronnie the clear winner with Victor and Dexter very competitive towards each other ... Ronnie and Victor change places

Coleman, Jackson, Cutler, Victor

Jay and Victor shake hands, now standing together ... Jay is wider ... Jay from the side looking flat in the pecs compared to other guys ...

let's break down the battle for 2nd between Victor and Jay
Jay vs Victor
Front Double Bis - Victor
Front lat Spread - Jay
Side chest - draw
Back double biceps - Victor
Rear lat spread - Jay
Side triceps - draw
Abs and thighs - Victor
Most muscular - Jay

Second Callout
L to R
Anthony, Badell, Freeman, Warren

surprised not to see Troy Alves called out in this lineup as a second callout ... maybe Ruhl as well ... and the big shocker, which is Gunter


Very good call bro, very very good call. I see Jay filling out like you mentioned, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here (again) and say this is **NOT** going to be a good year for him. I really see him being 3rd this year. Ronnie is 1st, there is   NO  DOUBT  ABOUT  IT ! !  but 2nd is the real toss-up. I'm going with Victor for 2nd, and Jay'll be fighting Dexter for 3rd!!!

Keep 'em coming guys! This is the BEST Mr. O I've seen since the 2001!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:25:55 PM
Again from flex blog:

Second Callout
L to R
Anthony, Badell, Freeman, Warren

surprised not to see Troy Alves called out in this lineup as a second callout ... maybe Ruhl as well ... and the big shocker, which is Gunter


Tony Freeman and Melvin looking most impressive of this foursome ... Branch looks to be holding a bit of water and Badell not as hard as he was last year ... In this lineup, Melvin now looking the most impressive, especially from the font ... Melvin never been bigger but he's a lot sharper than he has been ... Melvin, followed by possibly Freeman

Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: torquemada on September 29, 2006, 08:27:19 PM
Just from previous years, I'll be really surprised if Jay doesn't get 2nd just from all the hype.  Vic would probably be very pleased to get 3rd.  
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:28:06 PM
from flex:

Third Callout

Taylor, Ruhl, Schlierkamp, Dennis James

Still no Troy Alves being called ... In this lineup Markus and Gunter who are both German ... Dennis who was born in Germany and Vince Taylor who used to live in Germany and work on a military base in the early 80s ... Troy to me had great condition, fullness, one of the best backs in terms of detail in the show .. had improved his glutes and hams but still seems to be overpenalized because they're not shredded ...

Gunter here looking a little flat ... has to be full and big, otherwise his structure sort of overwhelms the muscle accumulation ... Great that Taylor is there but wouldn't have seen him in that position ... to me Ruhl and maybe Dennis James are the best of this foursome ...

Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: one1234 on September 29, 2006, 08:29:14 PM
can one of u post screen shots of the webcast using the PRNT SCRN button on ur computer please?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:29:50 PM
Wow!!

RONNIE IS FUCKING AMAZING AND JAY MIGHT BE FIGHTING TO THE DEATH FOR 3RD THIS YEAR!!!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:30:37 PM
can one of u post screen shots of the webcast using the PRNT SCRN button on ur computer please?

I'll see what I can do, any shots in particular you're looking for??
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:32:36 PM
What is wrong with Ronnie's back? Looks like shit.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: one1234 on September 29, 2006, 08:33:54 PM
I'll see what I can do, any shots in particular you're looking for??
hey vein-x
just post some pics up please..(a pic is worth a thousand words!!)...
Is this ronnies best package from the past 8-9 years?

thanks
one
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:33:59 PM
from flex

Gunter doesn't have the sweeping lines he had last year ...

Fourth Callout
Freeman, Jackson, Anthony, Badell

Dexter is impressive but still feel that we've seen him sharper than this ... Melvin very competitive with Dexter on front double biceps ... in the background Gunter seems to have gone a bit pale ... very pale

Of this foursome Dexter clear winner and Anthony second ...

Fifth Callout
Ruhl, James, Warren, Jackson

STILL no Troy Alves .. and David Henry should have been called out by now
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: fang on September 29, 2006, 08:34:15 PM
I can't seem to find the link to flex blog. Can someone post a link? thanks
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:34:51 PM
Ronnie's back is really blurry. His left tricep is noticeably smaller than the right, and his left lat is also smaller than the right. Ronnie's thighs are huge, but no striations. Jay sucks from the side shots, especially the side chest, but his front and back shots are amazing.

If Ronnie wins, it won't be a landslide.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:35:43 PM
What is wrong with Ronnie's back? Looks like shit.

Well when you're the 'world's mightiest mortal', everyone looks like shit to you. Afterall, they're only mortal...  ::) ::)

Dumbass - this is the best he's been in YEARS. Wait for the front double bicep shot. SOO dry man, soo dry. I chocked when I saw that image (webcast froze on that for 10+ seconds so I got a GREAT look at it...amazing!)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:36:10 PM
Ronnie's back is really blurry. Hir left tricep is nopticeably smaller than the right, and his left lat is also smaller than the right. Ronnie's thighs are huge, but no striations. Jay sucks from the side shots, especially the side chest, but his front and back shots are amazing.

If Ronnie wins, it won't be a landslide.
Very odd. His left lat is tiny, but he looks best he has since 2003 from the front.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:36:54 PM
Well when you're the 'world's mightiest mortal', everyone looks like shit to you. Afterall, they're only mortal...  ::) ::)

Dumbass - this is the best he's been in YEARS. Wait for the front double bicep shot. SOO dry man, soo dry. I chocked when I saw that image (webcast froze on that for 10+ seconds so I got a GREAT look at it...amazing!)
PRAISEJEEBUS
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:38:53 PM
Ronnie's back is really blurry. His left tricep is noticeably smaller than the right, and his left lat is also smaller than the right. Ronnie's thighs are huge, but no striations. Jay sucks from the side shots, especially the side chest, but his front and back shots are amazing.

If Ronnie wins, it won't be a landslide.

Apparently you missed a few of his front shots? You're right, he has a few structural flaws, but is that anything new? I'll tell you what's new this year (no cocky undertone intended) is Jay looking flat, soft and generally shitty. Quads improved? Sure. Shaving his head? Hell..fucking..yes.

As far as Ronnie holding water.. I don't know how much I agree with that. It's nothing a little sodium/water manipulation and diuretics can't help out with. If he's off, it's only by a SMALL %, and I'm talking 2-3%, something a little lasix and less salt will fix literally - overnight.

Keep the critiques coming though, it helps call attention to shit that might've been looked over the first round or two.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:39:08 PM
Also Jay is wider than Ronnie (at least in the rear lat spread).
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: tony b on September 29, 2006, 08:39:24 PM
I can't seem to find the link to flex blog. Can someone post a link? thanks


http://updates.mrolympia.com/
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 08:40:46 PM
Well when you're the 'world's mightiest mortal', everyone looks like shit to you. Afterall, they're only mortal...  ::) ::)

Dumbass - this is the best he's been in YEARS. Wait for the front double bicep shot. SOO dry man, soo dry. I chocked when I saw that image (webcast froze on that for 10+ seconds so I got a GREAT look at it...amazing!)
lol  like you can tell whos better then who from a blrry webcast! he could be holding a keg of water and youd come on here and say hes wonderfull!

what a fuckin retard!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:42:08 PM
Apparently you missed a few of his front shots? You're right, he has a few structural flaws, but is that anything new? I'll tell you what's new this year (no cocky undertone intended) is Jay looking flat, soft and generally shitty. Quads improved? Sure. Shaving his head? Hell..fucking..yes.

As far as Ronnie holding water.. I don't know how much I agree with that. It's nothing a little sodium/water manipulation and diuretics can't help out with. If he's off, it's only by a SMALL %, and I'm talking 2-3%, something a little lasix and less salt will fix literally - overnight.

Keep the critiques coming though, it helps call attention to shit that might've been looked over the first round or two.

Im not saying Ronnie is holding water, but his back just isn't NEARLY as good as it used to. His chest, delts, traps and abs are all amazing. His front double biceps is amazing(albeit the assymetry of the triceps). What I'm most impressed aboput him this year is his midsection. Never seen it that small since 2002 (when he was flat).
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:44:42 PM
Im not saying Ronnie is holding water, but his back just isn't NEARLY as good as it used to. His chest, delts, traps and abs are all amazing. His front double biceps is amazing(albeit the assymetry of the triceps). What I'm most impressed aboput him this year is his midsection. Never seen it that small since 2002 (when he was flat).

No kidding dude, 100% agree. Like I said, I think Ronnie's got it this year.

(As a sidenote, if Gustavo makes anymore of that annoying ass noise when he hits a poses, I'm booking a ticket to Vegas tonight just so I can giving him a running kick to the prostate)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 08:48:09 PM
Seventh callout

Jackson, Warren, James, Alves

To me, Troy is beating this lineup and Dennis and Branch have had the better callouts so far

As an aside, I see Ronnie's the clear winner, but I"m hearing other people saying they're not that impressed with Ronnie and it's very close between Ronnie and Jay

haha how things change in a blink of an eye!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: sgt. d on September 29, 2006, 08:48:45 PM
No kidding dude, 100% agree. Like I said, I think Ronnie's got it this year.

(As a sidenote, if Gustavo makes anymore of that annoying ass noise when he hits a poses, I'm booking a ticket to Vegas tonight just so I can giving him a running kick to the prostate)

ahaha I thought it was just me
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: sgt. d on September 29, 2006, 08:49:22 PM
Seventh callout

Jackson, Warren, James, Alves

To me, Troy is beating this lineup and Dennis and Branch have had the better callouts so far

As an aside, I see Ronnie's the clear winner, but I"m hearing other people saying they're not that impressed with Ronnie and it's very close between Ronnie and Jay

haha how things change in a blink of an eye!

Dude Jay is not going to get 2nd this year. Hope this helps
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:50:12 PM
lol  like you can tell whos better then who from a blrry webcast! he could be holding a keg of water and youd come on here and say hes wonderfull!

what a fuckin retard!

Oh and by the way fuckhole...

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/86013_ron2_123_331lo.jpg)

That image sharp enough for your blind bitch ass? Where's that keg of water? Game over... and knock off the smartass tone bro, I'm not God, just a fan. And I'll call it like I see it, thanks.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:50:39 PM
Dude Jay is not going to get 2nd this year. Hope this helps

It doesn't help.

Victor just got called out with Dex and melvin.... leaving Ronnie and Jay by themselves.

Victor is owning Dexter big time.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:51:11 PM
Jay and Ronnie on stage now.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:52:53 PM
Oh and by the way fuckhole...

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/86013_ron2_123_331lo.jpg)

That image sharp enough for your blind bitch ass? Where's that keg of water? Game over... and knock off the smartass tone bro, I'm not God, just a fan. And I'll call it like I see it, thanks.
hahah brutal 18'' left arm.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 08:53:38 PM
could the camera angle suck even worse???? damn this webcast sucks.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2006, 08:53:42 PM
Jay and Ronnie on stage now.


I think they would do this, regardless of jay being subpar.  It's the storyline everyone likes.  Jay looks like he should be 4th
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:53:50 PM
hahah brutal 18'' left arm.
I'm  just having some fun with vein-x before everyone gets in a tizzy.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:54:41 PM
hahah brutal 18'' left arm.

Hey I'm sorry Jay lost, really I am.

Please don't take it out here. Send him your condolences via email. He'll probably be checking a few tonight over tears and donuts back in his room.

Thanks for hangin' out with us tonight though!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on September 29, 2006, 08:55:01 PM
from flex
Judges calling out Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman with this group ...Martinez, Jackson, Coleman, Cutler, Anthony

Seems to be a call for Jay and Ronnie being one and two, so we'll go thru the poses with Jay and Ronnie

Front double biceps - Ronnie
Front lat spread - Jay
Side Chest - Jay
Back double biceps - draw
Rear lat spread - Jay
Side triceps - Jay
Abs and thighs - Jay
Most muscular - Ronnie

This is one of the craziest contests I've ever seen ... had Ronnie the clear winner at the get go with Jay even struggling for third ... jay seemed to progress as show went on, Ronnie seemed to soften up and now it's neck and neck for tomorrow night
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: sgt. d on September 29, 2006, 08:55:09 PM
This is just great. Jay is not going to get any gifts this year
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2006, 08:55:36 PM
This is just great. Jay is not going to get any gifts this year

for once we agree
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 08:56:08 PM
Oh and by the way fuckhole...

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/86013_ron2_123_331lo.jpg)

That image sharp enough for your blind bitch ass? Where's that keg of water? Game over... and knock off the smartass tone bro, I'm not God, just a fan. And I'll call it like I see it, thanks.
his abbs are as blrry as your fuckin eyes you piece of shit!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:56:20 PM
I'm  just having some fun with vein-x before everyone gets in a tizzy.

Oh I know bro, right back at you.

You know now we can't talk any shit cuz there'll be 257 new threads now...

Peace, and good luck with Jay (really) he has a chance but ahh... well...  :D
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
his abbs are as blrry as your fuckin eyes you piece of shit!

I'm getting a little too tired to argue with you bro, even though 75% of this forum agrees with me......... when you talk all this garbage about Ronnie's physique, are you implying JAY WILL WIN? I just want to get this straight so come tomorrow night, I can quote this post and enjoy you try to dig your ass out of the monster whole you've dug trying to fight for Jay to not just place in the top FIVE (gift) but WIN this whole damn show.

Thanks for any clarification.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2006, 08:59:31 PM
slayer's been saying for weeks that jay will win
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Billy Knockout! on September 29, 2006, 09:05:20 PM
lol  like you can tell whos better then who from a blrry webcast! he could be holding a keg of water and youd come on here and say hes wonderfull!

what a fuckin retard!
Meltdown!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on September 29, 2006, 09:07:12 PM
Ronnie's noticable gyno is a disgrace.  Can't see a Mr. O that looks like he should be giving milk....
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 09:19:06 PM
Slayer could you help me out buddy? As you said, I left my glasses somewhere and I'm blind as FUCK right now. So, I need a little help, please.

Could you tell me please help me distinguish who's better between these two shots? Again, I'm blind, so please be honest here...


Jay:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/jay06.jpg)


OR


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/ron06.jpg)


Again, please be honest. Your reputation for truth lies on this post, so hopefully you'll be honest with me, and I trust you!

Thanks!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Billy Knockout! on September 29, 2006, 09:21:51 PM
haha! 8)
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: Joel_A on September 29, 2006, 09:22:59 PM
his right delt is really looking weird compared to his left.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: bRIZZAd on September 29, 2006, 09:31:45 PM
What's with the small lump on Jay's left arm in that most muscular... ? 
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
Slayer could you help me out buddy? As you said, I left my glasses somewhere and I'm blind as f**k right now. So, I need a little help, please.

Could you tell me please help me distinguish who's better between these two shots? Again, I'm blind, so please be honest here...


Jay:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/jay06.jpg)
ronnie easy , but thats 1 shot before jay filled out andd ronnie softened!


OR


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/ron06.jpg)


Again, please be honest. Your reputation for truth lies on this post, so hopefully you'll be honest with me, and I trust you!

Thanks!
ronnie easy , but thats 1 shot before jay filled out andd ronnie softened!
if 1 pose wins the show then its his, but to bad will see all the bad things like the tri's and lat, when the clear pics from flex come out!


whats with the baby ass smooth right delt on ron though?
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 09:38:05 PM
sorry guys but this is not  ronnie  of the past , this is a wounded duck trying to hang on!

he was awsome yrs ago, but age  has caught up! no way is he anywhere near what he was!

he basically looks like his aging self of last yr with a few more dents in the armour!
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2006, 09:41:47 PM
What's with the small lump on Jay's left arm in that most muscular... ? 

Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: vein-x on September 29, 2006, 09:47:02 PM
sorry guys but this is not  ronnie  of the past , this is a wounded duck trying to hang on!

he was awsome yrs ago, but age  has caught up! no way is he anywhere near what he was!

he basically looks like his aging self of last yr with a few more dents in the armour!

See, now that you've calmed down, talking/reasoning with you will actually be fun.. or at least not a f*cking argument every other post.

Let me say this: Jay's back, yes, I think he's challenging Ron, especially in this pic. But let's be serious here for a sec, Ronnie's (for the most part) won this portion of the show. I'll give Jay some poses, sure, no problem. But here comes the kicker...

As you could tell from every athelete, they're not peaking for the pre-judging. No, it wasn't 2 or 3 top guys that came in off. I would say 9 in 10 of them are waiting to peak until tomorrow. This is especially evident in Ronnie's abs. You can tell his conditioning is fine, look at the arms! But people are quick to point out the abs/midsection. Well, it's not FAT/lack of conditioning, it's water. And it's not just Ronnie, it's almost all of them.

So what am I saying? After the prejudging, the judges MORE THAN LIKELY have Ronnie 1st and Jay 2nd. But as I said, the kicker is tomorrow night. Right now, I can almost guarentee you they're all heading back to their rooms popping a few lasix and getting a meal in. Tomorrow, carb up and DIURETICS will be the game plan for them all, especially Ronnie. Just hang in there guys, this was a good showing, but their bests are yet to come.
Title: Re: OFFICIAL WEBCAST DISCUSSION (LIVE NOW!!)
Post by: slayer on September 29, 2006, 09:54:41 PM
See, now that you've calmed down, talking/reasoning with you will actually be fun.. or at least not a f*cking argument every other post.

Let me say this: Jay's back, yes, I think he's challenging Ron, especially in this pic. But let's be serious here for a sec, Ronnie's (for the most part) won this portion of the show. I'll give Jay some poses, sure, no problem. But here comes the kicker...

As you could tell from every athelete, they're not peaking for the pre-judging. No, it wasn't 2 or 3 top guys that came in off. I would say 9 in 10 of them are waiting to peak until tomorrow. This is especially evident in Ronnie's abs. You can tell his conditioning is fine, look at the arms! But people are quick to point out the abs/midsection. Well, it's not FAT/lack of conditioning, it's water. And it's not just Ronnie, it's almost all of them.

So what am I saying? After the prejudging, the judges MORE THAN LIKELY have Ronnie 1st and Jay 2nd. But as I said, the kicker is tomorrow night. Right now, I can almost guarentee you they're all heading back to their rooms popping a few lasix and getting a meal in. Tomorrow, carb up and DIURETICS will be the game plan for them all, especially Ronnie. Just hang in there guys, this was a good showing, but their bests are yet to come.
i think it was important for jay to close in on ronnie late and not get blown away, because of the age factor ronnie is in new territory in his 40's trying to hold or better his form in 24 hrs!

remember ronnie has not done the 2 day thing in yrs and age mite play a factor in response to whatever gear they have planned!