I do disagree with anyone taking pleasure in someone being offed.
But, there is always rude comments on this board when Iraqi civilians/muslims etc are killed.
So why would Tox be wrong and the people that find it amusing when people of arabic descent are killed not wrong?
To be clear, I have nothing but sympathy for all the US servicemen/women/civilians who have been killed there. I also have nothing but sympathy for the people of other nationalites who have been killed there. American lives are not the only ones that matter.
What's scary is that we're allowing shitskins like him to immigrate here and become citizens. This is a guy who thinks the moon landings were a hoax and that 9-11 was a vast government conspiracy. Foreigners like Toxic should be deported and banned from ever re-entering the country.
I do disagree with anyone taking pleasure in someone being offed.
But, there is always rude comments on this board when Iraqi civilians/muslims etc are killed.
So why would Tox be wrong and the people that find it amusing when people of arabic descent are killed not wrong?
To be clear, I have nothing but sympathy for all the US servicemen/women/civilians who have been killed there. I also have nothing but sympathy for the people of other nationalites who have been killed there. American lives are not the only ones that matter.
9-11 was a vast government conspiracy.
It was a small military psy-op executed by a few hundred people,. mostly foreigners, with some foreknowledge and mostly "looking-the-other-way" on the part of our CIA and White House.
No vast conspiracy. Small psy op like they have every few years in a few countries. It's life, it's history, it's jsut how things are.
brianX, before you respond- google 'operation northwoods'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
why aren't you raising hell on the g&O board?
are you for real?
the Iraqi civilian is not as close to me as a citizen of my own country . . .
does the death of tens of thousands of Rwandans mean more to you than the death of a beloved pet?
perhaps if you were god, all deaths would be equal. but everyone knows that even god has his favorites.;
Yes I am for real.
Of course it affects someone more greatly when it is their own citizens.
{But ps...I despise animals and would never have a pet so therefore would care less if this phantom pet croaked :P}
By this type of thought pattern, I could find it amusing when the Americans are killed.
My region has many lives due to hurricanes, which of course doesn't impress me. I was also very unimpressed by the lives lost in Katrina, despite it not being my nation. I feel for the mothers that have buried their sons due to this conflict - whether they be American, Canadian, Brit, Iraqi, Afghani etc....
My sympathies have no borders....
My condolences are not dependent on the color of someone's skin....
And all that type of crap
Al-gebra - surely you must agree with my basic premise? Do you find humor if the death of Iraqi children and other 'collateral damage'? I was never disputing the varying magnitudes of affect it has, just saying that it is not funny to laugh at innocent people being killed no matter who they are.
1 i've never laughed at anyone being killed. i don't even post in those threads usually. at worst, i'm indifferent. at best, i don't think it's right for innocent people to lose their lives.
2. no, i don't agree with your premise. as limited beings, we have only so much empathy. if you were god, you could empathize with everyone equally . . . but as things stand you empathize more with people you are close too (geography, values, culture etc help define this closeness).
3. so yes, i find it irksome when i see americans empathizing with people I consider 'other' over people I consider 'mine."
ok
So as a non American may I laugh at the US servicemen being killed?
???
how'd you get this from my previous post?
Al-gebra - surely you must agree with my basic premise? Do you find humor if the death of Iraqi children and other 'collateral damage'? I was never disputing the varying magnitudes of affect it has, just saying that it is not funny to laugh at innocent people being killed no matter who they are.
2. no, i don't agree with your premise. as limited beings, we have only so much empathy. if you were god, you could empathize with everyone equally . . . but as things stand you empathize more with people you are close too (geography, values, culture etc help define this closeness).
From this part.........
So, generally, what I was saying was that if I only empathise with 'people I am close to' than I would not empathise with the US deaths as I am og a different culture, have different values etc.
***Oh, and as a disclaimer, before some moron [present company excluded of course] opens this thread and skims and thinks I would laugh at the death of a soldier - I would never - it was just a point I was trying to make.
i was driving at toxic's lack of empathy for a fellow american.
. . . all killings are serious business for me, not a laughing matter. but I am even more deeply concerned when it's one of my "own."
Look at the following link :
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=97447.0
someone copies a link to a video of Americans being murdered while in Iraq,
and what is Toxic's response ?
he writes :
"LMAO....pwnage!
well the fucking terrorists got one right finally! ;D "
Toxic, you are one sick and sorry piece of shit !, and I would love to see you in person, and have you say such a thing about someone who was in Iraq not to kill anyone, but only to make a living and provide for their family, maybe just as your family did years ago, by coming to America ! I bet your father, grandfather, or even back further, came here to the USA, to give his family a better life. to earn a better living.
and yet you laugh and make a joke out of a fellow American being murdered for doing just that.
Once again, you are one sorry and sick piece of shit.
You are no American, just an ungrateful inhuman turd.
I hope everyone can now see what you truly are !
You are a waist of oxygen !
Yeah, because a made man such as Toxie will give two shits what you sad collection of tiny tits have to say about him
'Eldon' lol, oh brother
i seriously wanna come with ya friends to a cric game and throw piss grenades at other ....psst people! lol
yeah, first though, we would need some suitable bags with which to fill with said piss
to wit, we could buy the cheap multi packs of generic crisps from one of the many scabby paki shops located in the 'urban locale' before heading of to the game LOL
Toxic...... aka chicken neck.
you couldn't fight your way out of a paper sack !
Better work on those 13 in arms of yours some more !
LMAO !!!!
Better find something else to insult.
Toxie knows he's not the most gifted.
To be honest, I still to this day have serious doubts about TA's claims about steroid usage.
He's just too small.
YIP
Zack
Toxic...... aka chicken neck.
you couldn't fight your way out of a paper sack !
Better work on those 13 in arms of yours some more !
LMAO !!!!
Better find something else to insult.
Toxie knows he's not the most gifted.
To be honest, I still to this day have serious doubts about TA's claims about steroid usage.
He's just too small.
YIP
Zack
but yeah but what makes ya think 2 paid bodyguards wont be with me hon ;D
but yeah but what makes ya think 2 paid bodyguards wont be with me hon
Toxic...sheesh were you drunk when you said that
nahhhh..well yeah but i'm not drunk now...helliburton...noth ing but greedy sons of bastards...dont ever confuse me with the dont say what i mean crowd...
Translation of Toxics above message :
Translation = even though these men were only trying to make a living to send money back home to their family ( like most muslims who have moved to the USA in the last 50 years ) and even though they were not their to shoot or kill anyone, I still think it was funny that they were killed, because I am a piece of shit, goat fucking muslim, who does not deserve to live in the USA.
Toxic 'the goatfucker"Avenger!
you'd burst into flames if ya ever saw me kiss a white girl wouldn't ya lol...