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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Disgusted on October 01, 2006, 10:13:54 PM
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At first glance from the front I really thought that Ronnie had it again this year. He certainly had a different look about him. Very vascular and somewhat grainy from the front. Certainly huge, but somehow smaller in some areas. Whether this is due to age or conditioning I don't know. From the rear he looked soft in the upper body. That fact that there was little to no oil on his lats certainly did not help. The striated glutes where still there, but not as sharp as usual. Still from the waist down (excluding calves of course) no one touches him. Many have brought up the issues of Ronnie's "injuries" but no one seems to have a definitive answer as to what exactly they are. So IMO here goes. His tricep does look smaller, but it is NOT tore. My guess would be nerve damage. This takes many months to rehab. It does appear that Ronnie tore his right lat slightly right under the armpit. Nother major so it might end up healing pretty good. Ronnie left leg is also noticeably smaller. He has always had a higher out quad insertion on this leg, but it seems to be more apparent this year. I am going to put that down to nerve damage also, especially since it is on the same side as the tricep. Some have pointed out his lower back and the possibility that he tore something there. If you look at older pics of him it has always looked like this. Most people's backs are not perfectly symmetrical to either side.
IMO Ronnie can come back better next year. He can even come back much improved in a week or two if he makes the right corrections to his diet. Ronnie would look his best at around 268 - 270. Word had it that he weighed around 293? No one can play the size game like Ronnie, but even he went too far this year. I can speculate as to what he did wrong concerning carb up etc., but the bottom line is that he is just too heavy!!!! I just hope he does not rely on diuretics to try and make the corrections if he decides to compete in the Grad Prix shows. He did not look to be as dehydrated this year compared to last year. Ronnie knew he had lost before the night show. I got two phone calls after the prejudging about how far ahead Jay was on the score cards. My point is that if I knew then Ronnie certainly did, This would explain the way he seemed to act right before the announcement.
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Good post. If you hear more about the extent of his lat injury do tell.
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Ronnie can't win without a back. Everyone expected to see another year of Ronnie dominating the competition from the rear. That did not happen this year and isn't even a debatable issue.
The biggest back always wins.
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His left lat has been torn for years. It's funny that everyone is noticing it all of a sudden. ::)
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His left lat has been torn for years. It's funny that everyone is noticing it all of a sudden. ::)
Interesting, I thought I noticed it in 2005 pics yesterday
But something has to have affected his preparation
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His left lat has been torn for years. It's funny that everyone is noticing it all of a sudden. ::)
Actually it's his right lat that I was reffering to. Maybe you meant from the rear.
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Wrong.
No you are wrong in this instance. Take a closer look at pics from the back. It's been torn for years. It has been discussed here and at Mayhem before.
I'm going to buy Chad's explanation that it's a shoulder problem. He couldn't fully extend in the lat spread.
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Actually it's his right lat that I was reffering to. Maybe you meant from the rear.
He is right,its been discussed before.But it wasnt as noticeable then.
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No you are wrong in this instance. Take a closer look at pics from the back. It's been torn for years. It has been discussed here and at Mayhem before.
I'm going to buy Chad's explanation that it's a shoulder problem. He couldn't fully extend in the lat spread.
I already corrected what I said. I am speaking from the front. This is a new injury for sure. There is clearly a 1-2 inch gap under his right armpit that was not there before.
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No you are wrong in this instance. Take a closer look at pics from the back. It's been torn for years. It has been discussed here and at Mayhem before.
I'm going to buy Chad's explanation that it's a shoulder problem. He couldn't fully extend in the lat spread.
What about in back double bi where he was obviously against it too?
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I already corrected what I said. I am speaking from the front. This is a new injury for sure. There is clearly a 1-2 inch gap under his right armpit that was not there before.
Okay, then what about this pic from 2005?
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/655/Men/IMG_8400.jpg)
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Okay, then what about this pic from 2005?
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/655/Men/IMG_8400.jpg)
I'm no disagreeing with you on the rear shot. What are you reffering to here?
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Okay I just realized that the pic from 05 shows left lat torn but the 06 shows right lat torn but left intact. Is either of the pics flipped?
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But look at this pic...his left lat does not look anywhere near as big as the right.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98113.0;attach=106744;image)
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Okay I just realized that the pic from 05 shows left lat torn but the 06 shows right lat torn but left intact. Is either of the pics flipped?
No not flipped, but where are you seeing his left lat tore from ther front?
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No not flipped, but where are you seeing his left lat tore from ther front?
It just looks smaller to me.
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No not flipped, but where are you seeing his left lat tore from ther front?
You are right, my mistake. Seems he has torn both now? However it was the left side that was smaller and which everyone has commented on so far. I didn't even realise that the right lat looks torn from the front.
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It just looks smaller to me.
In the rear lat spread from 05 you can see that the left insertion hangs lower. The pic is a bit dark but you can see it.
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It just looks smaller to me.
It is smaller. Ronnie's right lat has always been the bigger one. The tear is slight and up high so it will not effect the overall mass of the lat.
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WOW you can really see it here:
(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/730/Men/RH9K4119.jpg)
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SO WAHT? NO EXCUSES- YATES ONE IT WITH A TORN BICEP AND TORN LAT AND OTHER LITTLE TEARS HERE AND THERE - NO EXCUSES HE WAS OFF AND LOST- MELVIN IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE CRYING AND COMPLAINING.
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Yeah that sucks. Here's one from 2005. Nothing wrong here.
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You can clearly see the torn lat in photos going back to at least 2001. These were both taken in 2001.
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You can clearly see the torn lat in photos going back to at least 2001. These were both taken in 2001.
Where?
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You can clearly see the torn lat in photos going back to at least 2001. These were both taken in 2001.
Yes but notice that were talking about the right lat. The left lat has been like that for years.
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SO WAHT? NO EXCUSES- YATES ONE IT WITH A TORN BICEP AND TORN LAT AND OTHER LITTLE TEARS HERE AND THERE - NO EXCUSES HE WAS OFF AND LOST- MELVIN IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE CRYING AND COMPLAINING.
You are correct. The judges don't normally care too much about tears. There is no reason why Ronnie can not come back and win again.