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Title: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2006, 09:38:39 PM
Who are they?



He said on the radio show that he is currently unbeatable.  IMO, if they had done prejudging on Sat night, he might not be Mr O.  And in a show with standards following the gut mandate, can he beat a Melvin?

So who are the top 5 guys in the world who could knock off Cutler at a show, in order from most likely to least?
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: JediKnight on October 02, 2006, 09:41:06 PM
Cormier
Mustafa
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: AVBG on October 02, 2006, 09:42:15 PM
Ronnie
Vic
Dexter
Gustavo
Melvin Anthony
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: slayer on October 02, 2006, 09:43:41 PM
you have 51 weeks to figure it out, then another 51 ect.... yawn! ::)
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Ron on October 02, 2006, 09:44:25 PM
There is no one who could beat Jay Cutler right now. No one.

Now, in a week from now, at the European shows, Ronnie Coleman may perhaps beat Jay Cutler.

Not sure who else is going there...

So who else.... in a year, perhaps Victor Martinez, Phil Health, or any other surprise...

Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2006, 09:44:47 PM
Ronnie.
Martinez.
Melvin.
Gustavo.
Dexter.

Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2006, 09:45:25 PM
you have 51 weeks to figure it out, then another 51 ect.... yawn! ::)

He said tonight that he's doing the Grand Prix shows this month.

You calling Cutler a liar?  Them's fightin' words.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: divcom on October 02, 2006, 09:46:07 PM
Who are they?



He said on the radio show that he is currently unbeatable.  IMO, if they had done prejudging on Sat night, he might not be Mr O.  And in a show with standards following the gut mandate, can he beat a Melvin?

So who are the top 5 guys in the world who could knock off Cutler at a show, in order from most likely to least?

Melvin showed up for one show.  Come on.  

1. Ronnie takes care of the injuries, stops the damn heavy lifting and works on detail. At 270 and 43 or whatever  he wins his 9th.  Great story for bbing if this were to happen.
2. Victor Martinez can put 20lbs on his frame and give Jay hell.
3. Chris C if he can get the bells out of his head.
4. Heath need a couple of yrs.  Did you go the CO show? He needs size badly.  He just a hair over Darrem at this point in his career.  That aint good enough against a monster like Jay.
5. Dex is too small to be MrO

The rest can go and play.



Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: slayer on October 02, 2006, 09:48:26 PM
He said tonight that he's doing the Grand Prix shows this month.

You calling Cutler a liar?  Them's fightin' words.
him losing the grand prix is like a suberbowl champion team losing a preseason game now! like chick said, jaysgot a photo shoot every day this week ect.... it mite be fun on the boards if he loses , but until next yr it really doesnt matter much!
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2006, 09:50:01 PM
him losing the grand prix is like a nfl team losing a preseason game now! like chick said, jaysgot a photo shoot every day this week ect.... it mite be fun on the boards if he loses , but until next yr it really doesnt matter much!

People talked about Ronnie's loss at the 2002 GNC SOS for years.

When a reigning mr O loses a regular show, it does matter much.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: divcom on October 02, 2006, 09:50:36 PM
There is no one who could beat Jay Cutler right now. No one.

Now, in a week from now, at the European shows, Ronnie Coleman may perhaps beat Jay Cutler.

Not sure who else is going there...

So who else.... in a year, perhaps Victor Martinez, Phil Health, or any other surprise...



May?  With conditioning under control...Ronnie has Jay hands down.  Euro shows come down to the judges.  If Ronnie gets it back...will they give him the win...or keep the MrO undefeated until next O.  Unbeatable.  Delusion just after one show.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: slayer on October 02, 2006, 09:53:30 PM
People talked about Ronnie's loss at the 2002 GNC SOS for years.

When a reigning mr O loses a regular show, it does matter much.
it was a tiny sidbar, everyone said it wasnt the olympia!
jay will still be on the cover of every mag as mr "o" not mr grand prix! we can have fun on the boards but the mags will burry it on page 109 in a tiny caption!
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: slayer on October 02, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
ronnie has alot more to lose then jay does, if ronnie gets swept then jays stock just goes through the roof!
if he loses , well the travel, photo shoots ect....will be the spin

when your mr o you get the benefit of the doubt, like chick said the judges ,media, fans will be on his side since hes the champ
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: AVBG on October 02, 2006, 10:01:36 PM
ronnie has alot more to lose then jay does, if ronnie gets swept then jays stock just goes through the roof!
if he loses , well the travel, photo shoots ect....will be the spin

when your mr o you get the benefit of the doubt, like chick said the judges ,media, fans will be on his side since hes the champ

Good post.

Ronnie cant afford to lose two consecutive shows or for that fact any more shows..
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: jmt1 on October 02, 2006, 10:04:48 PM
the only guy in the world who can be cutler is coleman.

there is noone in the world who can beat coleman when he is on.

the only guy who could beat ronnie if he is off is cutler...thats what happened at the o.

Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
ronnie has alot more to lose then jay does, if ronnie gets swept then jays stock just goes through the roof!
if he loses , well the travel, photo shoots ect....will be the spin

when your mr o you get the benefit of the doubt, like chick said the judges ,media, fans will be on his side since hes the champ

I love to disagree lol...

but Ronnie has excuses - he's old and injured.  Jay is the KING now.  If Ronnie were to sweep Jay in all three shows, people would view the Mr O loss as a fluke, a bad night, for Ronnie.  Jay would be seen as the guy in the right place at the right time when king ron slipped, and a lifetime 1-13 against Ronnie.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: John Romano on October 02, 2006, 10:09:08 PM
I'll give you six:

Ronnie
Victor
Dex
Toney Freeman
Melvin Anthony
Mustafa
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 02, 2006, 10:12:05 PM
I'll give you six:

Ronnie
Victor
Dex
Toney Freeman
Melvin Anthony
Mustafa
yes! mustafa has the potential. I love that guy! Melvin has always been one of my favorites too.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Dball on October 02, 2006, 10:20:39 PM
easy,

adonis
alexxx
whateva
bast
daddywaddy
baby herc


 ::)
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: The_Hammer on October 02, 2006, 10:29:04 PM
1993 Dorian Yates.  He'll use a time machine.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: The_Hammer on October 02, 2006, 10:33:52 PM
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Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: slayer on October 02, 2006, 10:36:48 PM
stick jays legs on dorian and youd have a monster! ;D
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Figo on October 03, 2006, 12:17:26 AM
                                                       



                                                        PRIEST!




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Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Woten on October 03, 2006, 12:18:23 AM
LIGHTS OUT

(http://tinypic.com/2vvksjk.jpg)

LIGHTS FUCKING OUT!!!
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: 240 is Back on October 03, 2006, 12:33:15 AM
Romper Room -

I applaud your choice to include Mustafa on this list.

Do you think he'll every get the conditioning right?
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: ReEvolution on October 03, 2006, 12:35:36 AM
i will not be surprised if Ronnie wins those Grand Prix shows

if i was jay, i'd stay home and let Ronnie second guess himself
while flying all over the world with nothing but time to speculate.

don't give Ronnie any chance to build confidence so quickly.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: WiseGuy on October 03, 2006, 01:39:15 AM
Who are they?



He said on the radio show that he is currently unbeatable.  IMO, if they had done prejudging on Sat night, he might not be Mr O.  And in a show with standards following the gut mandate, can he beat a Melvin?

So who are the top 5 guys in the world who could knock off Cutler at a show, in order from most likely to least?


easy....Phil Heath in a year or 2 once he agins size...

Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: kyomu on October 03, 2006, 01:46:50 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=106964;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=107027;image)
Well I see Jay is  better in those pics.
Selfownage.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: kyomu on October 03, 2006, 01:51:21 AM

easy....Phil Heath in a year or 2 once he agins size...


Heath is a hype.
Look, he made good battle against Darrem.
Darrem(In his prime shape) would make good battle against Martinez or Dexter?
I dont think so.
So,Heath is in the level of Darrem. Not the level of top 5 of O.
Plus he is extra narrow.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: sammy1980 on October 03, 2006, 05:19:32 AM
lol unbeatable..coming from a guy who never should have wone the mr o

alot of guys are better than jay:

melvin, dexter, martinez, rockel, ronnie (looks like shit tho), mustafa etc
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 03, 2006, 05:21:06 AM
LIGHTS OUT

(http://tinypic.com/2vvksjk.jpg)

LIGHTS FUCKING OUT!!!
wow, I see that Vince had his gyno fixed a little...They look much smaller
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 03, 2006, 05:25:51 AM
There is no one who could beat Jay Cutler right now. No one.

Now, in a week from now, at the European shows, Ronnie Coleman may perhaps beat Jay Cutler.


no one can beat Jay now...but in a week maybe'

are u listening to your self???
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: adipo8 on October 03, 2006, 05:40:47 AM
Melvin showed up for one show.  Come on.  

1. Ronnie takes care of the injuries, stops the damn heavy lifting and works on detail. At 270 and 43 or whatever  he wins his 9th.  Great story for bbing if this were to happen.
2. Victor Martinez can put 20lbs on his frame and give Jay hell.
3. Chris C if he can get the bells out of his head.
4. Heath need a couple of yrs.  Did you go the CO show? He needs size badly.  He just a hair over Darrem at this point in his career.  That aint good enough against a monster like Jay.
5. Dex is too small to be MrO

The rest can go and play.


XMan is coming




Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: BigWhoop on October 03, 2006, 05:58:53 AM
 A Chris Cormierownag3 of Cutler!!
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: anvil on October 03, 2006, 07:50:53 AM
Jay Unbeatable?  ::)

Jay you finally won, please lay off the pipe now


Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: knny187 on October 03, 2006, 10:08:08 AM
Jay misses his condition quite often....


hell...


Ruhl could beat Jay if Ruhl comes on & Jay is off.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Figo on October 03, 2006, 10:23:39 AM
Kenny Jones could, if he wanted it bad...
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: adipo8 on October 04, 2006, 04:40:19 PM
I'll give you six:

Ronnie
Victor
Dex
Toney Freeman
Melvin Anthony
Mustafa

Agreed -
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: adamthetrain on October 04, 2006, 08:54:20 PM
A Chris Cormierownag3 of Cutler!!
Cormier did get fucked at that ARNOLD!  Come on the judges should have worn their glasses for that one!
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 04, 2006, 09:02:08 PM
Who are they?



He said on the radio show that he is currently unbeatable.  IMO, if they had done prejudging on Sat night, he might not be Mr O.  And in a show with standards following the gut mandate, can he beat a Melvin?

So who are the top 5 guys in the world who could knock off Cutler at a show, in order from most likely to least?

2 words: the immortal Melvin Goodrum. :P
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: benchmstr on October 04, 2006, 10:39:01 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=106964;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=107027;image)
it is amazing, how in the hell did jay cutler manage to make his waist as wide as his shoulders that just proves he should be mr olympia ::) ::)
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: benchmstr on October 04, 2006, 11:02:05 PM
The only Mr. O. worthy bodypart on Jay in that pic is his left leg and bicep - serious.

Yates blows him away.
hell yeah jay winning the Olympia took bodybuilding 6 steps back which means its in the center of the road and about to get crushed by a f**king garbage truck ;D
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Rampage on October 05, 2006, 08:32:48 PM
Direct Threats:
1) Ron Coleman
2) Victor Martinez
3) Dexter Jackson
4) Chris Cormier


*Potential* Threats

5) Phil Heath
6) Paul Dillet
7) Alexander Federov
8) Art Atwood
9) Mustafa Mohammed



A Surprising few , yes i know.But there is reason to the madness :

With Federov, yeah THAT BOY BE BIGGER than Coleman.Now The thing with his recent condition, well there would come a time with that when that  barrier is crossed and he would be able to nail it on the head,eventually..he`s bigger and is compared welll with cutler.Look at the Grand prix pix from `03 ?? Just that now with the pec tear , it throws all that into question a bit.I will say , im referring to an all improved Federov

Ahh ART :) And no im being serious here,dont just dismiss it, he actually compares well to cutler.Him and cutler can be directly compared in size and stature  , unlike a henry vs cutler.I personally think he has a better back and thickr chest & better nis ( cutlers bi`s dont match dude).All this would count for naught tho if there isnt any reduction in the belly and excellent conditioning.Yes he has flaws,but they can be imoroved, here im talking abt a  dead on improved all around (tie ins& everything)Atwood

(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Clanky/2495_3.jpg)

Boy oh boy, this is gonna be exciting with cutler at the helm of bodybuilding now , because it  opens the doors to competitors who never thought they would ever be in the mix because colman shut the out.Now its all on the line ;D
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: beatmaster on October 05, 2006, 08:43:07 PM

1) Ron Coleman.....   maybe if he lose a few pounds
2) Victor Martinez ..  not now , but soon
3) Dexter Jackson ..  he's too small
4) Chris Cormier ....  never
5) Phil Heath..........  don't think so
6) Paul Dillet .........  huh?
7) Alexander Federov.. now this could be happening ( but i have to see a few pics, what's his condition right now? )
8) Art Atwood      ...... never
9) Mustafa Mohammed...  you gotta be kiding me

ronnie or victor (not this year, but he will)
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: pobrecito on October 05, 2006, 08:46:28 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=106964;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98986.0;attach=107027;image)

Dorian is absolutely destroying Cutler there. Dorian's hardness makes Cutler look like a twinkie.
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: Rampage on October 05, 2006, 08:54:41 PM
 
1) Ron Coleman.....   maybe if he lose a few pounds
2) Victor Martinez ..  not now , but soon
3) Dexter Jackson ..  he's too small
4) Chris Cormier ....  never
5) Phil Heath..........  don't think so
6) Paul Dillet .........  huh?
7) Alexander Federov.. now this could be happening ( but i have to see a few pics, what's his condition right now? )
8) Art Atwood      ...... never
9) Mustafa Mohammed...  you gotta be kiding me

ronnie or victor (not this year, but he will)

I do actually agree with you on some.I *DO* think Dexter be small compared with cutler,but he did actually beat cutler before,so dont really rule that out

Realistically I dont think also that chris or paul would be able to make the drastic improvements required this late in their game, buttt if their serious who knows.Going by what each intends doing 1) cormier to train with dorian 2) dillet teaming with muscletech and going all out for next years olympia...maybe their serious.But they both have the genetic potential to beat him th, which is why they are there

But now if i had to *REALLY* anser this question flat out by saying who could beath cutler *NOW* :

Coleman
Victor
Dexter
Mustafa - your not seeing this, but this guy is awesome.Ask around

I would love to put dennis james here, its that i dont like it when he hits poses and his body doesnt get animated and pop out, ya know ???
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: beatmaster on October 05, 2006, 09:22:51 PM
Yeah I dunno how people miss him.

Sure he comes in soft a lot, but he's got all the parts in the right place and nearly all the size required - he's not a coleman size-wise, no one is. Get hard/dry and he's a winner.

i think your right if he gets hard and dryer but, the post said right now (that's why i do not believe he could  beat jay right now)
Title: Re: Five men in the world who could beat Jay Cutler right now
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 05, 2006, 10:47:26 PM
Top 6 at the O from 2-6? :P