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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Bigger Business on October 03, 2006, 07:16:19 AM
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At the request of several valued members, lets vote whether politics and war should have their own child board down here at getbig board 11 (general topics). Or if you believe it is a 'general topic' and the people starting all the threads etc. should just show some consideration in posting and leave the topics here.
a yes vote = you want a child board and please suggest who you believe would make fair moderators
a no vote = no child board
a sensible reason for your vote would be appreciated
vote = till Friday nightish...any unrelated posts or arguments in this thread will be deleted :D
results will be forwarded to Ron
nb: Only 3 star plus members votes will count
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please please please
make this a child board to general topics?
Moderators: OzmO, Hedgehog
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Yes, and 240 or Hedge.
The child board should be in general topics just like the religion board.
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Yes
Moderators, Norris Superman, Wotten, Hedgehog
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No
How about just enforce proper posting and Send PMs out those that seem to start 10 threads a day. IE 240, and jaguar. Sounds to me like a cop out to 240 since he has been whining for this for months.
If political and war talk left this board then in the last week you would have had rate your favorite rock band, what is it, BKS and Re: Delete as the discussions for this board. Those are fine topics, but do they make up a board? Sounds kind of lame to me.
The general board is fine for these discussions and they will move back here anyway. Just look at how many religious discussion seem to move back and forth from the religion board.
For that matter I think the religious board should merge back into general discussions.
If there is a new board. Then there is no way that 240 or Nordic should be moderators if that board is made.
Keep the same mods as the general board.
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No. I don't want a child board.
If there is a child board however:
I vote for myself, CQ and Beach Bum as moderators.
YIP
Zack
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No
How about just enforce proper posting and Send PMs out those that seem to start 10 threads a day. IE 240, and jaguar. Sounds to me like a cop out to 240 since he has been whining for this for months.
If political and war talk left this board then in the last week you would have had rate your favorite rock band, what is it, BKS and Re: Delete as the discussions for this board. Those are fine topics, but do they make up a board? Sounds kind of lame to me.
The general board is fine for these discussions and they will move back here anyway. Just look at how many religious discussion seem to move back and forth from the religion board.
For that matter I think the religious board should merge back into general discussions.
If there is a new board. Then there is no way that 240 or Nordic should be moderators if that board is made.
Keep the same mods as the general board.
What he said.
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Enough boards. General topics handles them OK for now.
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Yes
Moderators, Norris Superman, Wotten, Hedgehog
I love you Chesney! :-*
Yes I believe there should be a seperate board.
But the following people should not be mods:
[any muslim member], Nordic Superman, 240 is back, jag, ozmo, beserker.
All these people have political agendas and it would undermine a politics forum if they became mods.
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I love you Chesney! :-*
Yes I believe there should be a seperate board.
But the following people should not be mods:
[any muslim member], Nordic Superman, 240 is back, jag, ozmo, beserker.
All these people have political agendas and it would undermine a politics forum if they became mods.
I knew i liked you for some reason Nordy ;D
But really, everyone has some sort of political agenda. Even Hedge. Basically what you are saying is anyone who is actively discussing politics shouldn't be considered. That might make it hard to find a moderator. IMO.
So maybe a current moderator might consider the extra duty.
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No. I don't want a child board.
If there is a child board however:
I vote for myself, CQ and Beach Bum as moderators.
YIP
Zack
I feel so special :D
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Politics & War would be a great child board for General.
Religion and politics are the two topics which friends should never discuss, they're the two corenerstones which fill our minds and are the basis for nearly all debates. Secular and Religious.
Making the child board has allowed people to further expand upon thoughts. We cannot do that now. For instance 9/11 - the single most defining life of every American and the justification for the 2 wars we are in - warrants more than one jumbled thread.
Mods - I would suggest three - one from each extreme and one in the middle. That would be 240 / Hedge / OzmO. Oz and I brought this to the comments board a few weeks ago originally, thinking that as we were both passionate about it, but from opposite sides of the aisle, we'd make a good team. Honestly, if it ends up being 2 or 3 people who just mock and merge 911 topics, it was a complete waste. Mods have to be passionate, open minded, and from all side of the political spectrum, including at least one who embraces a viewpoint skeptical of the official govt version of daily events.
I want to expand upon ideas. I want debates on the reasons we're at war. I want debates on the facts. I don't want an organizational drawer with one pinned 911 thread, one pinned iraq thread, etc. I want to expand upon ideas and let them grow.
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Fuck it, i'm leaving Getbig if you and Ozmo become fucking mods...
How the hell can that be fair? 2 people with agendas ruling the politics section? Give me a fucking break...
Why don't u get Haider to mod too? Fucking wonderful! ::)
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f**k it, i'm leaving Getbig if you and Ozmo become fucking mods...
How the hell can that be fair? 2 people with agendas ruling the politics section? Give me a fucking break...
That is the idea! You see how shows like hannity and Colmes work - you have two moderators with difference sets of fundamental beliefs, who adhere to one set of rules. If you have 2-3 casual politics followers, it'll turn into a sock drawer of info. But OzmO and I would set up equal space for both sides, the ability to seriously debate things, create a knowledge base of sources, videos, and text content which people could reference, and an overall feel of acceptance for both, or all 3 sides of every argument.
I don't want the Politics board to become another random mess of ideas. I want it to be a place where people from Getbig will go to seriously learn and seriously debate - and respectfully. There has to be a wide right person, and there has to be a wide left person, and a moderate. And one of them has to be open-minded to the possibility of self-attacks by governments - because even tho 7 of 10 people would deny it til the day they die, the other 30% do see that governments do this. And least one moderator has to be from this arena of thought.
Strong moderation for organization, respectful arguments, no veiled threats of "calling the FBI on each other", etc. One 911 skeptic among moderators is all I ask. Polls show that 1 in 3 people doubt the official story - so it should follow that 1 of 3 mods be from this school of thought.
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f**k it, i'm leaving Getbig if you and Ozmo become fucking mods...
How the hell can that be fair? 2 people with agendas ruling the politics section? Give me a fucking break...
Why don't u get Haider to mod too? Fucking wonderful! ::)
What does a mod do exactly?
The only thing i've seen them do is pull disrespectful posts and merge threads occasionally.
BTW....if you leave Get BIG who will i apologize for instaed? ;D
Dude Chill...... drink some fo that fantastic Beer you have over there.
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Sorry guys, I don't mind you both, but fucking having control for you 2 is not right.
Are you both not man enough to admit you have agendas? How can it be fair?
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Sorry guys, I don't mind you both, but fucking having control for you 2 is not right.
Are you both not man enough to admit you have agendas? How can it be fair?
I'm sure i have some sort of agenda... I hate BUSH and the neo-cons, and i'm not keen on our 2 party system i think we need other choices. So i guess i do have an agenda.
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Sorry guys, I don't mind you both, but fucking having control for you 2 is not right.
Are you both not man enough to admit you have agendas? How can it be fair?
The only "control" would be tossing out threatening posts, or merging forty Z1 threads on the same topic.
I think we both admit we have agendas - which is what you WANT when assembling a political forum of any kind. As long as all sides are represented, and neither moderator deletes unless rules are broken, it'll make for a better board.
Would you rather have 2-3 people that casually watch the news? or people from both sides of teh spectrum who passionately believe in the topics?
And, any mod who deletes anything which isnt' 1) illegal 2) threatening/offensive, should be removed from duty. None of this Chic/Ray stuff, where you start debates then delete when you lose.
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Politics & War would be a great child board for General.
Religion and politics are the two topics which friends should never discuss, they're the two corenerstones which fill our minds and are the basis for nearly all debates. Secular and Religious.
Making the child board has allowed people to further expand upon thoughts. We cannot do that now. For instance 9/11 - the single most defining life of every American and the justification for the 2 wars we are in - warrants more than one jumbled thread.
Mods - I would suggest three - one from each extreme and one in the middle. That would be 240 / Hedge / OzmO. Oz and I brought this to the comments board a few weeks ago originally, thinking that as we were both passionate about it, but from opposite sides of the aisle, we'd make a good team. Honestly, if it ends up being 2 or 3 people who just mock and merge 911 topics, it was a complete waste. Mods have to be passionate, open minded, and from all side of the political spectrum, including at least one who embraces a viewpoint skeptical of the official govt version of daily events.
I want to expand upon ideas. I want debates on the reasons we're at war. I want debates on the facts. I don't want an organizational drawer with one pinned 911 thread, one pinned iraq thread, etc. I want to expand upon ideas and let them grow.
240 - There are at least 20 threads on 9-11 alone.
You want to expland on your missinformation about 9-11, fine. Start a thread that isn't about the same WTC 7 building crash and won't be merged. You are constantly arguing the same points that is why the 9-11 threads keep getting merged.
Also most of this board already is politics.
Between you and Jaguar, Berserker, we had about 20 of the same topics appear a day, that was what was causing the problem. If you stick to single in smaller threads there wouldn't be a need for this a Politics board.
You, Jaguar, and Berserker, always start new threads when similar information comes up. You had at one time three WTC 7 threads, before the first merge. You kept adding threads as you were losing the debate in other thread. It was terribly annoying and this type of crap would constantly be happening in a child board moderated by you.
By the way OzmO isn't on the other side from you. Mr. Intensone is, even Beach Bum is farther right then OzmO. Ozmo is more on your side then most, he just wants you not exaggerate or change the side you argue from in the same post.
I really think you would not be suited to mod something like this.
The four best Mods IMO are probably Stella , Hedgehog, and Mindspin, maybe even Bigger Business. At least they don't try to cloud general discussion and in Stella's case with the Religion board actually add to the discussion, with the Religious information threads.
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No
How about just enforce proper posting and Send PMs out those that seem to start 10 threads a day. IE 240, and jaguar. Sounds to me like a cop out to 240 since he has been whining for this for months.
If political and war talk left this board then in the last week you would have had rate your favorite rock band, what is it, BKS and Re: Delete as the discussions for this board. Those are fine topics, but do they make up a board? Sounds kind of lame to me.
The general board is fine for these discussions and they will move back here anyway. Just look at how many religious discussion seem to move back and forth from the religion board.
For that matter I think the religious board should merge back into general discussions.
If there is a new board. Then there is no way that 240 or Nordic should be moderators if that board is made.
Keep the same mods as the general board.
i agree w this post.
also think there should be a limit on the number of threads a poster may begin in a 24 hr. period.
if there is a new board, stella, hedgehog, and bigger business for mods. they are known quantities.
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Al G, I don't think you should be able to threaten and insult Jag on the new board like you do here. Calling her the daughter of Farrakhan and implying that a call to the FBI can be made on her behalf - that is something we don't need in the new board.
Put passionate people on there. nothing gets deleted unless it breaks rules. And yes, there might need to be three threads on one topic. There are currently 75 threads on Jay's Mr O win on the main board. Can you imagine the mess G&O would be if they merged?
I'm ready to break down evidence, spread things out and have a nice fine debate :)
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240 - There are at least 20 threads on 9-11 alone.
You want to expland on your missinformation about 9-11, fine. Start a thread that isn't about the same WTC 7 building crash and won't be merged. You are constantly arguing the same points that is why the 9-11 threads keep getting merged.
Also most of this board already is politics.
Between you and Jaguar, Berserker, we had about 20 of the same topics appear a day, that was what was causing the problem. If you stick to single in smaller threads there wouldn't be a need for this a Politics board.
You, Jaguar, and Berserker, always start new threads when similar information comes up. You had at one time three WTC 7 threads, before the first merge. You kept adding threads as you were losing the debate in other thread. It was terribly annoying and this type of crap would constantly be happening in a child board moderated by you.
By the way OzmO isn't on the other side from you. Mr. Intensone is, even Beach Bum is farther right then OzmO. Ozmo is more on your side then most, he just wants you not exaggerate or change the side you argue from in the same post.
I really think you would not be suited to mod something like this.
The four best Mods IMO are probably Stella , Hedgehog, and Mindspin, maybe even Bigger Business. At least they don't try to cloud general discussion and in Stella's case with the Religion board actually add to the discussion, with the Religious information threads.
Couple of points:
- If i couldn't say what ever i wanted to say when ever i wanted to say it then i wouldn't want to be a mod.
- Next is believing that 9/11 was a military opp an idication of political ideology?
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The only "control" would be tossing out threatening posts, or merging forty Z1 threads on the same topic.
I think we both admit we have agendas - which is what you WANT when assembling a political forum of any kind. As long as all sides are represented, and neither moderator deletes unless rules are broken, it'll make for a better board.
Would you rather have 2-3 people that casually watch the news? or people from both sides of teh spectrum who passionately believe in the topics?
And, any mod who deletes anything which isnt' 1) illegal 2) threatening/offensive, should be removed from duty. None of this Chic/Ray stuff, where you start debates then delete when you lose.
Of course I would rather have casually political people mod the forum. This way only really offensive shit is removed etc... otherwise your own agenda might come into play (see excellent post by a_joker10).
You should do the right thing and exclude yourself from possible mods.
You're also mentally deranged, just one more thing to add up on the abacus of why you shouldn't be mod.
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Couple of points:
- If i couldn't say what ever i wanted to say when ever i wanted to say it then i wouldn't want to be a mod.
- Next is believing that 9/11 was a military opp an idication of political ideology?
True
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No
You stated yourself many times that you are liberal.
Mr. Intenseone is not.
240 states that he is a conservative, however I think that MR. Intenseone would fully disagree, as would many people that support President Bush. 240 Might be a libertarian but that is not a true conservative.
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Al G, I don't think you should be able to threaten and insult Jag on the new board like you do here. Calling her the daughter of Farrakhan and
I have never threatened anyone on any of the boards here. If you and jag and other dumbasses have paranoid delusions, that's your problem, not mine.
And IMO, jag is figuratively Farrakhan's daughter. A member of a minority group who disguises their hatred for another minority/nation as "truth." that's bullshit.
implying that a call to the FBI can be made on her behalf - that is something we don't need in the new board.
I have no idea what you paranoiacs are talking about. And I would never make a foolish assertion like that--FBI for a Canadian? WTF?
Anyhow, to reiterate: I think 240 would be a terrible choice for moderate. He can't even moderate himself.
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240 states that he is a conservative, however I think that MR. Intenseone would fully disagree, as would many people that support President Bush. 240 Might be a libertarian but that is not a true conservative.
Mr I is of the neoconservative right. I am moderate right.
Libertarians want to abolish income taxes and legalize all drugs. Neocons want to expand the American empire into the middle east and want to bomb everybody. moderate repubs want to keep people off welfare and have a strong national defense. That's where I am, I think.
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How about migs and myself as mods? He's been dieing to mod a board here and I would be more than fair. :)
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How about not having the politics board in the first place.
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How about not having the politics board in the first place.
I'm in agreement with you, just offering up myself and migs if there ends up being one. Neither of us push a political agenda here and we are both level headed and fair minded adults.
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Is there two in favor of a new board?
And everyone else against? ;D
YIP
Zack
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Fuck-it, i'm against the idea now 240 has brought his self-righteous attitude to the table.
He needed to nominate himself because nobody else would!
Someone else said it best:
"240 can't moderate himself."
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Is there two in favor of a new board?
And everyone else against? ;D
YIP
Zack
I'm against a new board. What is the real motive? The call seems for some to be coming from members who wish to craft General to fit their own needs. A political board seems a convientient way to banish topics from their site that they don't wish to deal with. Maybe they should br addressing the demons sitting on their shoulder forcing them to click and post in topics that they don't want to see posted. If there is a problem with political posts in General, I bet it has more to do with these member who are complaining not posting very many threads of their own and infact participating in the topics they are disturbed by.
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I'm against a new board. What is the real motive? The call seems for some to be coming from members who wish to craft General to fit their own needs. A political board seems a convientient way to banish topics from their site that they don't wish to deal with. Maybe they should br addressing the demons sitting on their shoulder forcing them to click and post in topics that they don't want to see posted. If there is a problem with political posts in General, I bet it has more to do with these member who are complaining not posting very many threads of their own and infact participating in the topics they are disturbed by.
That's all very interesting but the fact of the matter is....
You've only got ONE star so we don't care what you think
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I'm against a new board. What is the real motive? The call seems for some to be coming from members who wish to craft General to fit their own needs. A political board seems a convientient way to banish topics from their site that they don't wish to deal with. Maybe they should br addressing the demons sitting on their shoulder forcing them to click and post in topics that they don't want to see posted. If there is a problem with political posts in General, I bet it has more to do with these member who are complaining not posting very many threads of their own and infact participating in the topics they are disturbed by.
monster reading comprehension. ::)
240 is the biggest poster of bullshit threads and the only one who really wants a new thread.
HTH
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monster reading comprehension. ::)
240 is the biggest poster of bullshit threads and the only one who really wants a new thread.
HTH
Monster assuming I was only addressing comments made in this thread. In fact even though you do not advocate a political board, my post very much applies to your stupid ass for wanting to silence these voices.
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monster reading comprehension. ::)
240 is the biggest poster of bullshit threads and the only one who really wants a new thread.
HTH
240 shouldn't be a mod on any political board.
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Fuck a political board. Make a board that would be fun like a general board for sports.
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Some of you people are crazy. If there was a political board, there is no reason to believe a person like Intenseone or 240 could not make a good mod on a political board if one were created. Being a bad mod is what makes a bad mod, not bias. Being biased doesn't mean you can't mod. There are actually people who can be fair and have their own agendas. Holy crap if this current political climate isn't pure poison to political thinking.
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tonyboloni = 240 is back
tonyboloni = a big fagtard
therefore:
240 is back is a big fagtard
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That's all very interesting but the fact of the matter is....
You've only got ONE star so we don't care what you think
It's just an opinion champ. So sorry it upset you. I joined up well before you with this account and have been reading these boards for a very long time so to me, you're a noob.
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tonyboloni = 240 is back
tonyboloni = a big fagtard
therefore:
240 is back is a big fagtard
You're so bright huh!!!!!!!! Look at buckrogers here go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm against a political board, and 240 is for one, and we're the same person? Not good in the logic department are you???????
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tonyboloni = 240 is back
tonyboloni = a big fagtard
therefore:
240 is back is a big fagtard
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sorry, i'm not tony and i know hedge/ron/mindspin can easily check.
I am holding back a lot of news and info every day, on politics and the wars, just because i don't want to clutter this place. and the 911 clusterf**k thread - it's just too messy to post in anymore, and absolutely no way to carry on a debate there.
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sorry, i'm not tony and i know hedge/ron/mindspin can easily check.
you might not be tony, but you've certainly posted as him.
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sorry, i'm not tony and i know hedge/ron/mindspin can easily check.
I am holding back a lot of news and info every day, on politics and the wars, just because i don't want to clutter this place. and the 911 clusterf**k thread - it's just too messy to post in anymore, and absolutely no way to carry on a debate there.
You want a board, so that you can bomb it with your propaganda. >:(
Why don't you just post your info here in a normal fashion, and use other information to back up your debates instead of always starting new topics.
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sorry, i'm not tony and i know hedge/ron/mindspin can easily check.
I am holding back a lot of news and info every day, on politics and the wars, just because i don't want to clutter this place. and the 911 clusterf**k thread - it's just too messy to post in anymore, and absolutely no way to carry on a debate there.
Hahaha stop playing the martyr in a vain attempt to get mod duties.
Nobody wants you to post your 911 drivel...
Why don't you stand down from being elected mod, and I'll change my NON vote to a OUI vote.
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you might not be tony, but you've certainly posted as him.
Bet on it. If you wanna make such accusations, but your $ where your mouth is.
Let's both mail Hedgehog $1000. He can test your theory, and keep 10% for his trouble. I'll take my $1800 whenever he'd done.
(this is the part where you bitch out)
You want a board, so that you can bomb it with your propaganda. >:(
Why don't you just post your info here in a normal fashion, and use other information to back up your debates instead of always starting new topics.
because a 60+ page thread on 911, the biggest event of our lifetimes in America, is a little too cluttered to discuss things adequately.
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you might not be tony, but you've certainly posted as him.
I........ AM.......... NOT................. 240!!!!!!!!!
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Bet on it. If you wanna make such accusations, but your $ where your mouth is.
Let's both mail Hedgehog $1000. He can test your theory, and keep 10% for his trouble. I'll take my $1800 whenever he'd done.
(this is the part where you bitch out)
because a 60+ page thread on 911, the biggest event of our lifetimes in America, is a little too cluttered to discuss things adequately.
You don't pay your debts. You still owe me $5000 from the bet we had about Cutler winning the olympia! :P
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This thread has spun out of control because of people like Nordic going apeshit.
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Bet on it. If you wanna make such accusations, but your $ where your mouth is.
Let's both mail Hedgehog $1000. He can test your theory, and keep 10% for his trouble. I'll take my $1800 whenever he'd done.
(this is the part where you bitch out)
because a 60+ page thread on 911, the biggest event of our lifetimes in America, is a little too cluttered to discuss things adequately.
When you post new relevent information it isn't merged. Your rehashed arguments are the ones merged.
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Bet on it. If you wanna make such accusations, but your $ where your mouth is.
Let's both mail Hedgehog $1000. He can test your theory, and keep 10% for his trouble. I'll take my $1800 whenever he'd done.
(this is the part where you bitch out)
pardon me for thinking that surely there wasn't another retard like you running amok.
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This thread has spun out of control because of people like Nordic going apeshit.
Right... ::) it has nothing to do with 240 being adamant on being a mod and not fucking off when everyone has told him NO!
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I don't see why there shouldn't be a politics board. Many forums have one. One thing is for sure, a big merged thread is very confusing.
Most importantly, what harm will it do to have another board for politics? None. I am pretty sure that it will be active, much more so then the womens bodybuilding board or the NPC contest board - they are ghost towns.
I would be careful of choosing a mod though, as I am sure debates will get very heated. Someone without a 'dog in the fight' would be best IMO.
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I would be careful of choosing a mod though, as I am sure debates will get very heated. Someone without a 'dog in the fight' would be best IMO.
Damn straight brother!
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Damn straight brother!
:o
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Idea...Rob throw a free forum for this together...There are plenty of sites that host them or make one yourself, ie. boom7.
:)
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Damn straight brother!
CQ is a chick...correction...a hot chick
de ja vu?
Lets keep this thread on track please ladies and gentlemen
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oh, there are plenty of forums out there. But i enjoy chatting with my getbig brethrean.
Learning 911 was an inside job opened my mind up to a while new world. I like to share that with people.
I'm fine with a neutral moderator, as long as we dont have 80 page merged deals.
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f**k it, i'm leaving Getbig if you and Ozmo become fucking mods...
How the hell can that be fair? 2 people with agendas ruling the politics section? Give me a fucking break...
Why don't u get Haider to mod too? Fucking wonderful! ::)
LOL, I find it wonderful that you've voted yourself off the list as if you were ever going to be considered in the first place ;). However, I do find it interesting that you would have beef with a muslim being mod...such as myself (though I consider myself far too young and "stupid" to hold such a position), as if I have ever been caught pushing my "agenda". My religious belief's aside, I don't think that I am biased...misinformed maybe.. Judging my opinions based on my religion is nothing short of prejudice on your part. Regardless, I think I can do well for myself arguing from a standpoint outside the realms of the religion I belong to...meaning I don't let it restrict my thinking as much as you like to think...yes you.
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oh, there are plenty of forums out there. But i enjoy chatting with my getbig brethrean.
Learning 911 was an inside job opened my mind up to a while new world. I like to share that with people.
I'm fine with a neutral moderator, as long as we dont have 80 page merged deals.
You're like a born again CT'er handing out flyers at the mall ;D
I know what you mean.... When finally we see the BS the goverment and the media try and make us believe and how there is very subtle propaganda everywhere it's hard not to talk about it.
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For the record, i would like a Politics and War board, but if it doesn't happen i don't plan to file any legal action on those responsible for it's demise. I'll just continue to post on the general board with a good attitutde towards others. ;D
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Al G, I don't think you should be able to threaten and insult Jag on the new board like you do here. Calling her the daughter of Farrakhan and implying that a call to the FBI can be made on her behalf - that is something we don't need in the new board.
That's something that should not be allowed by anybody on ANY board.
If someone is breaking the law, infringing on another's rights...that's one thing, ...but for having a differing opinion? :(
Put passionate people on there. nothing gets deleted unless it breaks rules. And yes, there might need to be three threads on one topic. There are currently 75 threads on Jay's Mr O win on the main board. Can you imagine the mess G&O would be if they merged?
I'm ready to break down evidence, spread things out and have a nice fine debate :)
As for a new child board, at this point in time, I really don't see why one is necessary. . . especially in light of the cyclical nature of politics. This is an election year, so we're going to see political issues permeating discussion far more frequently than at other times. There are a lot of things going on in the world of politics right now and that inevitably will spark more watercooler discussion.
The big challenge I have is when people choose to hijack threads and spin them off into an entirely new area. I think a new topic is warranted for that. eg: Katie's revenge. I bring this up, not because it is a topic I started, but rather because I believe it is the clearest example I can immediately bring to mind. This thread was properly titled and the subject matter made clear immediately, ...however it was hijacked and spun in a different direction. I'm of the opinion a new topic should have been started by those who wanted to discuss the issues they raised off-topic to the thread, because those who perhaps may have found it of interest, most likely would not see it. having initially clicked on it, they would continue to assume new posts to the thread would be about vigilante jailhouse justice. This deprives participants of the opportunity for discourse and input into a topic they otherwise might find of interest and to which they may have something of value to contribute ...at least those posters with self control. I don't know where it is written that says one must read every single post or subject they encounter. Where does such a lack of self-control stem from? ...and when should others be held responsible for their lack of self-control? It's not a magnet, ...it's a post on a bulletin board.
I also have a problem with moderators arbitrarily merging threads especially into those of DIFFERENT subjects, and especially without any notification to the original poster, or to the rest of the readers. I think it's inconsiderate. I've seen both STella and Beast move threads they deemed inappropriate for boards they modded, and leave notations for readers that enabled those who participated and/or followed those threads to be able to find them. Without such courtesies, users grow resentful. I saw great discussions taking place on 911 which were respectful and illuminating, where points were beginning to be debated in a respectful way, unfortunately, it all got lost in the jumble. Ironically, from what I was able to gather, the overwhelmingly stated desire for a merger of these threads was because so many who were interested in the discussions taking shape, were having difficulty keeping up. Now, we're seeing calls for merger from those who don't even want to take part in those discussions. Well then don't click the thread. DAH!
I think if mods remove, or alter a post, they should at least be willing to own up to doing so, and at least have the courtesy and decency to inform the offender exactly what it is about their post that has been found objectionable and allow them the opportunity to remedy the situation in order to avoid misunderstandings.
If the decision is made to have a political child board, then I truly don't think it should be a matter on 1 mod from either side. Rules are clear whether you are a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party member etc., If somebody posts something you don't like about the party you find yourself affiliated with ...TUFF BEANS! Why should a member of the natural law party scream to the mod who votes natural law that something unsavoury about a natural law candidate is on the board so remove it? That's ridiculous. Furthermore, if the state of partisan politics in the realm most frequently discussed, ...not to mention the level of ignorance to be found vis-a-vis the current state of affairs is any indication, then moderation or board leadership based on partisanship has already demonstrated itself to be a poor, dysfunctional, and unproductive policy. There is already a set of rules, which if actually adhered to, and applied equally, across the board, the type of continued marginalization, harassment, bigotry, bullying, and hypocrasy that has well proven itself to be fertilizer for the growing animosities we are seeing here, would not continue to grow, and we would be able to have meaningful, enlightening, and co-operative discourse with our neighbours here in Getbig.
I also think that in political posts people naturally have a tendency to get heated, therefore we should all self moderate our statements without purposely trying to piss people off, ...whether overtly or through the passive / aggressive ways so many around here adopt. I also think it's about time we stop attacking the messenger. I also think there are certain established relationships here that provide people with sufficient enough background to know who they can tease and have their playful teasing accepted within the spirit with which it was sent. Those without that history of such an established relationship shouldn't attempt to do so because it will lead to hidden resentments and meltdowns.
There... I've weighed in my 2 cents. What a mouthful, ...but then again, ...I've hardly been known for brevity. ;)
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Anyhow, to reiterate: I think 240 would be a terrible choice for moderate. He can't even moderate himself.
...and you can? ::) When was the last time you saw a post started by '240 is back' with a subject heading designed for no other purpose than to attack and harrass a reader of this forum?
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...and you can? ::) When was the last time you saw a post started by '240 is back' with a subject heading designed for no other purpose than to attack and harrass a reader of this forum?
haguar, did you see me nominate myself for moderator? I like taking potshots at you and 240 and the others in your parade of retards too much to do that. try and keep up . . . I know it's tougher for you than it is for most normal people.
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I like taking potshots at you and 240 and the others in your parade of retards too much to do that. try and keep up . . . I know it's tougher for you than it is for most normal people.
A parade of retards which seeks a complete investigation of the most horrific event of our lifetimes?
I'd suggest the 'parade of retards' is the group who would chew their mulch and just nod their heads obediently to the findings of a politically biased, underfunded and incomplete investigation.
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I'd suggest the 'parade of retards' is the group who would chew their mulch and just nod their heads obediently to the findings of a politically biased, underfunded and incomplete investigation.
i agree . . . why do you feel the need to reiterate the nature of your "investigation"? ???
BTW, where's my fanboys tonight?
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i agree . . . why do you feel the need to reiterate the nature of your "investigation"? ???
Are you saying the 911 Investigation was thorough and complete?
Because the men who ran it admit that it was incomplete, underfunded, rushed, and that they were unable to answer many of the questions that they had.
You know what the word 'appease' means?
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240 you are hijacking this thread again.
Not only that but you have spun back to the same arguement.
Time to move on.
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Yeah, dude. you are doing it again. :P
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How about a child board where 240 and I can snipe at each other? seems to account for about 25-50% of the posts on the General Board . . . :-\
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yes on politics board - no limits there though.
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To update:
There are 5 members for a child board...maybe 6, could CQ please clarify her vote.
And 6 against
There are several members who voted that havent been here long enough for their votes to count but thankyou for contributing
voting ends in 24 hours ish so if you have a preference please voice it now
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To update:
There are 5 members for a child board...maybe 6, could CQ please clarify her vote.
And 6 against
There are several members who voted that havent been here long enough for their votes to count but thankyou for contributing
voting ends in 24 hours ish so if you have a preference please voice it now
Am I the deciding vote? Am I the 'man of the hour'?
It's a big decision, I have tossed and turned - and I vote...
YES to a politics board.
I am sure we can count on 240 and Jag to fill it for us :)
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Am I the deciding vote? Am I the 'man of the hour'?
not quite...its 6 a piece now
are you the man of the hour? Ive defended your gender twice this week already.... ;)
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I know, thanks :-*
I debated that, but I have never really heard the phrase "woman of the hour" so I went with "man". It, and the vote, was a hard decision. I had to really search my soul >:(
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CQ's female persona has voted YES.
Does her male persona get a vote? :D
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this board is no longer general topics. It is politics and conspiracy theories
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this board is no longer general topics. It is politics and conspiracy theories
Yeah no kidding.
If a politic sub board is made General Topics may die or at least have little activity.
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6 a piece
voting ends in 5....4....3....