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Title: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: TDK on October 03, 2006, 02:03:04 PM
Ronnie:  http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-669858584352699021&q=mr+olympia+2006

Jay:  http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4774857247242242642&q=mr+olympia+2006

Ron looks better than the pics would suggest.  No way Jay beat him....imo of course.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: fathead on October 03, 2006, 02:15:22 PM
RONNIE GOT FUCKED!  I KNEW I WASN'T SEEING THINGS ON FRIDAY. I WAS AT THE PREJUDGING AND I THOUGHT RON WAS THE CLEAR WINNER. SO MUCH SO THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GO TO THE FINALS. I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT HOME SUNDAY AND I WAS SHOCKED.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: TDK on October 03, 2006, 02:17:48 PM
Ronnie's abs and thigh looks so much better in the vids than pics.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: TDK on October 03, 2006, 02:18:34 PM
RONNIE GOT FUCKED! 

True dat
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Shockwave on October 03, 2006, 02:23:11 PM
Ronnie's lat looks like poo.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: stomper on October 03, 2006, 02:47:13 PM
yeah his back wasn't as good as in the past, jay looked great as did victor
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 03, 2006, 02:50:30 PM
Ronnie's abs and thigh looks so much better in the vids than pics.
I think so too, thats weird. but that Lat is very obvious!
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: fathead on October 03, 2006, 02:53:07 PM
Ronnie's abs and thigh looks so much better in the vids than pics.

looked even better in person.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: IceCold on October 03, 2006, 03:05:26 PM
cutler's color looked wierd, but the clear winner.

ronnie's left arm is a good inch smaller than his right and his back looks like absolute shit.

cutler's waist looks a bit wide, but the report for the prejudging was that jay got better as the contest went along. 
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Jr. Yates on October 03, 2006, 03:07:55 PM
cutler's color looked wierd, but the clear winner.

ronnie's left arm is a good inch smaller than his right and his back looks like absolute shit.

cutler's waist looks a bit wide, but the report for the prejudging was that jay got better as the contest went along. 
yes Jay's waist was off, particularly the obliques.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: MisterGX on October 03, 2006, 04:54:26 PM
It shows that conditioning was the factor, because physiquewise--Jay isn't better than Ronnie.  But too much excess water can make you lose...  See what happens this weekend overseas.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Brutal_1 on October 03, 2006, 05:46:00 PM

jay: Nothing new, I'm sure his conditioning was a little better on Saturday, cause in that vid he was holding water, could barely see his christmas tree.

Ronnie: Yeah, he was off....but DAMN! :o  How big can this "man" get :o  Freakin HUGE!! :o
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Dan-O on October 03, 2006, 06:13:11 PM
The videos are a much better yardstick to go by than pics.

Jay is...  huge.  Period, end of story.

Ronnie is simply unreal!  I was just shaking my head in disbelief watching that video.  And his level of muscular detail is a quantum leap ahead of Cutler's relatively smooth, featureless mass.

Those videos pretty much seal the deal--I don't need to see anymore to know that the Olympia results were based more on politics than on the physiques presented onstage last weekend.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: dav-bol on October 03, 2006, 06:28:36 PM
Ron dwarfs his smooth-like-squid ass.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: HERACLES on October 03, 2006, 06:36:32 PM
RONNIE GOT FUCKED!  I KNEW I WASN'T SEEING THINGS ON FRIDAY. I WAS AT THE PREJUDGING AND I THOUGHT RON WAS THE CLEAR WINNER. SO MUCH SO THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GO TO THE FINALS. I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT HOME SUNDAY AND I WAS SHOCKED.

Look at his shredded, split biceps.

He is the HUGEST, biggest most muscular bodybuilder ever...
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: adamthetrain on October 03, 2006, 06:40:14 PM
RONNIE GOT FUCKED!  I KNEW I WASN'T SEEING THINGS ON FRIDAY. I WAS AT THE PREJUDGING AND I THOUGHT RON WAS THE CLEAR WINNER. SO MUCH SO THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GO TO THE FINALS. I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT HOME SUNDAY AND I WAS SHOCKED.
I totally agree Ronnie did get robbed!  Also I studied his lats very close and they don't seem to be off to me!?
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Rami on October 03, 2006, 06:45:13 PM
No wonder Jay won!!!

Jays physique just look a lot more in balance and strong while he is a big freak at the same time. Ronnie is impressive in mass and muscularity but looks more watery and sloppy. Jay looks incredible hard and strong when he hits his poses. Jay is a very good poser, looks good overall when he hits poses, no weaknesses. Ronnie looks bad in some poses and areas, even as he hits the mandatory poses.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Rich2 on October 03, 2006, 06:50:26 PM
no way, ronnie was totally off. his worst poses were his side-triceps, his lat spread, and his back double bi is on the decline as well. he's just too worn down. his relaxed pose is still great tho, but once he does his mandatories its evident that he's not the top dog anymore.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: AVBG on October 03, 2006, 07:04:11 PM
Ronnie:  http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-669858584352699021&q=mr+olympia+2006

Jay:  http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4774857247242242642&q=mr+olympia+2006

Ron looks better than the pics would suggest.  No way Jay beat him....imo of course.


Great links.. Jay won fairly, Ronnie was just toooooo heavy.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Dan-O on October 03, 2006, 07:08:30 PM
no way, ronnie was totally off. his worst poses were his side-triceps, his lat spread, and his back double bi is on the decline as well. he's just too worn down. his relaxed pose is still great tho, but once he does his mandatories its evident that he's not the top dog anymore.

Let's suppose for the sake of argument that you're right and Ronnie's worn down and a shadow of his former self.

Ronnie at 90% of his all-time best is still better than Cutler will ever be.

This year's O was a sham.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: gcb on October 03, 2006, 07:09:45 PM
Ronnie has one arm bigger than the other - same with his lats. He still seemed to me somehow more impressive than Jay although Jay shows more balance overall.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: pobrecito on October 03, 2006, 07:10:56 PM
my god, Cutler looks like absolute shit. NO DETAIL in his upper body, HUGE waist, and SOFT :-\ Ronnie was fucked
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: knny187 on October 03, 2006, 07:13:48 PM
Let's suppose for the sake of argument that you're right and Ronnie's worn down and a shadow of his former self.

Ronnie at 90% of his all-time best is still better than Cutler will ever be.

This year's O was a sham.

I agree 100% & placing Melvin fifth is enough proof how much of a sham it is.

Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: IceCold on October 03, 2006, 08:14:26 PM
the major consensus was that if jay could improve his back he may beat coleman.

remember, based on the actual score cards, jay was pretty close evey year.  he only lost by a few points.

he came in harder than usual, esp. from the back, while ronnie was clearly off. 

ronnie's back looked like shit, especially compared to what it used to look like. 
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: andydude00 on October 03, 2006, 08:27:06 PM
GCB I agree with what you said. Ronnie was off because of his noticeable assymetry of his whole body, but he still has so much detail and size its just so impressive. Jay's back looks awesome now but his lack of detail doesn't have the same effect on the eyes. Both are the best in the biz. Wonder if Ron can make a comeback, of if Jay is here to reign.


What if KEVIN CAME BACK???!!!!
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: fathead on October 03, 2006, 08:45:56 PM
RONNIE GOT 2ND CAUSE THEY COMPARED HIM TO 1999/2003 RONNIE NOT TO JAY.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: Rich2 on October 03, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
Let's suppose for the sake of argument that you're right and Ronnie's worn down and a shadow of his former self.

Ronnie at 90% of his all-time best is still better than Cutler will ever be.

This year's O was a sham.

i still disagree, but the fact that the audience went ballistic is proof enough that jay was a deserving winner.
Title: Re: Ronnie and Jay prejudging videos
Post by: fathead on October 03, 2006, 08:58:41 PM
The audience was just happy to see a new champion.