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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mwbbuilder on October 04, 2006, 08:38:48 AM
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I’m not sure if you have a father around or a big brother to help you along in life, but I wanted to share some advice for you. Take or leave it.
The less validation that you need in life, the more you’ll get.
You don’t need to relentlessly ramrod all your ideas, beliefs and pictures up everyone ass. You shouldn’t rely on what others think about you about every little issue. You use these boards for validation and all you are doing is encouraging to attack you. Whatever you think you gaining—you aren’t. You are merely entertainment for everyone on this board.
Just do your thing and don’t be concerned about what people think. And don’t say that you don’t or you would have 1,000 posts trying to convince everyone of how much you know, how strong you are, or what can and can’t be achieved naturally.
People who are truly confident do not spent so much time trying to convince everyone they are. They don’t talk about what they do. They simple do it.
You must be a bastard to deal with in regular life too.
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Everything was "friendly" until the last line. Drop it and you have a decent bit of advice for Adam.
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I’m not sure if you have a father around or a big brother to help you along in life, but I wanted to share some advice for you. Take or leave it.
The less validation that you need in life, the more you’ll get.
You don’t need to relentlessly ramrod all your ideas, beliefs and pictures up everyone ass. You shouldn’t rely on what others think about you about every little issue. You use these boards for validation and all you are doing is encouraging to attack you. Whatever you think you gaining—you aren’t. You are merely entertainment for everyone on this board.
Just do your thing and don’t be concerned about what people think. And don’t say that you don’t or you would have 1,000 posts trying to convince everyone of how much you know, how strong you are, or what can and can’t be achieved naturally.
People who are truly confident spent so much time trying to convince everyone they are. They don’t talk about what they do. They simple do it.
You must be a bastard to deal with in regular life too.
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Thank you for the kind advice, save for the last sentence.
No I do not have a father around. Died when I was just a young boy, tragically.
Anyways,
That has nothing to do with my motivations. I enjoy the debate and teaching people truth. I feel I would be further ahead if I knew what I knew now. Thins such as what is possible in regards to physique development naturally.
I would have never been under the impression that I should bulk up in the hopes of being over 200 lbs ripped.
We all know, or should know that it is an impossibility if you are under 6 feet. I take the time to debate because I like to get the proper information out there.
I enjoy it.
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nah that last line made it funny :D
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Adam,
How old are you and how long have you SERIUOSLY been training?
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Adam,
How old are you and how long have you SERIUOSLY been training?
Early Twenties and have been training since October 13, 1997.That was the first day I walked into a gym ever. The first year I did all machines and stil ran cross country, but I trained consistently everyday.
By 1999, 2000,I would say, I had a clear understanding of what to do, according to magazines and other message boards. I never took a break more than 5 days since then. I have consistently gained 3-5 lbs of muscle a year. I started with about 90 lbs of muscle I would estimate as I weighed 110-115 lbs.
I have been training for nearly 9 years. The first 2 learning.
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So i have put on a great deal of muscle since I started.
5 a year about.
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I have had my bodyweight as high as 248 lbs as well, hoping that it was muscle. Forcefeeding myself 6-10,000 calories daily from years 1999-2004. No Cardio. Easily hitting that caloric amount day in and day out. PRobably closer to 10,000 a day as I was drinking a gallon of whole milk a day.
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Well, you are off to a good start. And, you are still very young.
I wouldn't put limits on yourself. And, I also would kid myself into believe that you are near the "top" of what a natural can accomplish either. It's a big world out there and to think you are near te top is an insult to what the human body can do. It's also an insult to guys out there who are just as committed to training and being natural or more than you (trust me they are out there. They may not be spending all the time you do on message boards--but they are out there)--and they are older and have more time in the gym. Don't get validation from a steroid dealing bodybuilder who only knows how to train on drugs either. Don't you spend all your time bashing the opinions of guys on drugs? What strange bedfellows we make when we are searching for validation!
Look at some of the elite physique in the world like pro baseball (major and minor leauges, fighters, football player (college and pro). Let's face it. The most genectical elite and most intellegent people do not gravitate toward bodybuilding. The best "naturals" that I've met do NOT make bodybuilding a total lifestyle like a Jay Cutler would either. They pride themselves on being balanced AND natural BBs--so what they actually accomplish IS NOT the limit on what the human body can do. That's just what THEY are willing to do to build their body.
If you want to be a postive example to other people, tell what they CAN DO--niot what they CAN'T. Trust me, the majority of people prove to themselves what ISN'T possible every day. They don't need you to tell them what's impossible. Don't ask the MASSES what the ELITE can and can't do. They have no clue---htat's why they are stuck in the majority.
If you want to be an elite example what the body can do, start acting like it.
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People who are truly confident spent do not spend much time trying to convince everyone they are.
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Well, you are off to a good start. And, you are still very young.
I wouldn't put limits on yourself. And, I also would kid myself into believe that you are near the "top" of what a natural can accomplish either. It's a big world out there and to think you are near te top is an insult to what the human body can do. It's also an insult to guys out there who are just as committed to training and being natural or more than you (trust me they are out there. They may not be spending all the time you do on message boards--but they are out there)--and they are older and have more time in the gym. Don't get validation from a steroid dealing bodybuilder who only knows how to train on drugs either. Don't you spend all your time bashing the opinions of guys on drugs? What strange bedfellows we make when we are searching for validation!
Look at some of the elite physique in the world like pro baseball (major and minor leauges, fighters, football player (college and pro). Let's face it. The most genectical elite and most intellegent people do not gravitate toward bodybuilding. The best "naturals" that I've met do NOT make bodybuilding a total lifestyle like a Jay Cutler would either. They pride themselves on being balanced AND natural BBs--so what they actually accomplish IS NOT the limit on what the human body can do. That's just what THEY are willing to do to build their body.
If you want to be a postive example to other people, tell what they CAN DO--niot what they CAN'T. Trust me, the majority of people prove to themselves what ISN'T possible every day. They don't need you to tell them what's impossible. Don't ask the MASSES what the ELITE can and can't do. They have no clue---htat's why they are stuck in the majority.
If you want to be an elite example what the body can do, start acting like it.
I think people need to know what they CAN`T accomplish so they can get an idea of what they CAN expect to accomplish.
Delusionality will mess you up far more than reality.
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I think people need to know what they CAN`T accomplish so they can get an idea of what they CAN expect to accomplish.
Delusionality will mess you up far more than reality.
That's exactly my point. You're an your early 20s and haven't really be training long (you say 9 years but come on. What 13 - 16 year old is really dedicated and knows what he's doing? I've give you 5 years of somewhat serious train max--and I'm being generous).
You're pushing YOUR reality--not true reality.
The funny thing is Adonis, if you can break out of this mind funk you are in, you probably look damn good when you hit 30. Then, you are going to have to go back and create a "new reality" for your 'students.'
Don't be so arrogant to think you are that good. You're certainly are not--at least not yet. Those picture you so proudly display aren't that good for someone claiming to be close to the best. whatevea kicks your butt in some internet BB contest and you accuse him of using drugs, calling the contest fixed, and all of your other whining.
10, 000 more posts, calling people chinaman (or fat or stupid or whatever classless cutdowns you have up your slveeve, asking for everyone to agree with you won't make you the best.
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Thank you for the kind advice, save for the last sentence.
No I do not have a father around. Died when I was just a young boy, tragically.
Anyways,
That has nothing to do with my motivations. I enjoy the debate and teaching people truth. I feel I would be further ahead if I knew what I knew now. Thins such as what is possible in regards to physique development naturally.
I would have never been under the impression that I should bulk up in the hopes of being over 200 lbs ripped.
We all know, or should know that it is an impossibility if you are under 6 feet. I take the time to debate because I like to get the proper information out there.
I enjoy it.
Okay Adonis....maybe you can help me out!! I'm going out on a limb here 'cause I usually try and do things myself....BUT....I am at brick wall. CAn I message you with a question?? I would really appreciate it......
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Okay Adonis....maybe you can help me out!! I'm going out on a limb here 'cause I usually try and do things myself....BUT....I am at brick wall. CAn I message you with a question?? I would really appreciate it......
Sure.
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Sure.
Thanks man...it's on it's way.
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That's exactly my point. You're an your early 20s and haven't really be training long (you say 9 years but come on. What 13 - 16 year old is really dedicated and knows what he's doing? I've give you 5 years of somewhat serious train max--and I'm being generous).
You're pushing YOUR reality--not true reality.
The funny thing is Adonis, if you can break out of this mind funk you are in, you probably look damn good when you hit 30. Then, you are going to have to go back and creat a "new reality" for your 'student.
Don't be so arrogant to think you are that good. You're certainly are not--at least not yet. Those picture you so proudly display aren't that good for someone claiming to be close to the best. whatevea kicks your butt in some internet BB cotest and you accuse him of using drugs, calling the contest fixed, and all of your other whining.
10, 000 more post, calling people chinaman (or fat or stupid or whatever classless cutdowns you have up your slveeve, asking for everyone to agree with you won't make you the best.
OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
A harsh, cold reality check can truly be a bitch, can't it, Adonis?! ;)
To the author of the post, much props to you. It was about time to someone chime in and bring commom sense and REAL truth to what this douchebag has been hammering on these boards for such a long time! >:(
Tired of hearing soooooooooooo much bullshit, and even more astonished to see how many people actually believe and/or agree to what True Apenis has to blab. :-\
About time for the reality check.
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AHAHAAHAHAHA!!! TA owns you pathetic sacks!
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AHAHAAHAHAHA!!! TA owns you pathetic sacks!
So go suck his balls , already, and leave the bb stuff for those that truly know the score! ;)
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AHAHAAHAH!!! Ok, "Mr. Michael Moore".........I love these precious noobs and their "reality checks" LOL!!
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MW loves the cock
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AHAHA! Yes, MW does seem gayer than a Souper Salad gift certificate.
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That's amazing: Man of Steel and Broad streetwhatever , the guardians of Apenis' balls !!!!!!!!!!!
What did this guy do to yourselves that everytime he's in a tricky position you guys have to jump in in his defense? I guess he's a grown up boy that doesn't need a pair of douches like you 2 to slingshot his jocks in order to haunt those that 'dare' to situate him on the real terms of what's real.
In my book, ANY THINKING HUMAN BEING that encourages people to diet on burguers and candies in order to bring out the cuts should be banned for life on any board, just MHO.....
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That's amazing: Man of Steel and Broad streetwhatever , the guardians of Apenis' balls !!!!!!!!!!!
What did this guy do to yourselves that everytime he's in a tricky position you guys have to jump in in his defense? I guess he's a grown up boy that doesn't need a pair of douches like you 2 to slingshot his jocks in order to haunt those that 'dare' to situate him on the real terms of what's real.
In my book, ANY THINKING HUMAN BEING that encourages people to diet on burguers and candies in order to bring out the cuts should be banned for life on any board, just MHO.....
That's Mr. MOS to you douchebag.
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Adonis = sarcasm = jezebelle
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That's Mr. MOS to you douchebag.
Go fuck yourself, asshole ! ;)
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=BSB=MOS=True Assclown
Are you starting to wish you'd picked a less labor intensive form of insanity TA?
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What was Adam's body weight in the Mr. Getbig?
Needless to say, I agree that 200 pounds ripped at 5'10 is around the max. This is not meant as an insult as hard natural trainers, it's just that the human body is not meant to gain more muscle than that.
But there ARE genetic freaks out there. One guy I know is 5'7 and 170 totally shredded and contest ready and natural. At least I am pretty sure he is natural because he is poor and can't avoid gear - but he may be on. If he is, he must always be on because he always looks that way. He looks incredible. I will try to get some pics up, although I think most would agree on here he is probably juicing, despite his claims. Another person I know deadlifted 500 with only one year training. That's amazing because after six years training I can only deadlift in the 400s. It would be generous to say 450, so I won't. So yes, some freaks exist.
Yes, there are freaks. When I was around 20 yrs old or so, I was training near Boston in a World Gym. I was natural but trained very hard for about 4 yrs. Many people thought I was "on". There was this guy, this mamaluke who had a mullet, trained in jeans and workboots, and kept to himself. He was 6' and 265, had a chest like Bolo Yeung and strong as a mule.
I assumed, like everyone else, that he was juiced to the gills. He denied it and denied it. He wouldn't get angry, just walked away and trained by himself. This went on for about a year. I got to know him pretty well. He was a very nice guy, his family owned a small restaurant and he would give me brisket and roast beef platters, cookies, whatever I wanted. He really was very cool.
As I grew to be friends with him, he confided in me that he wanted to juice. By this point, I semi believed him that he was natural. He never lost size, like one would when coming off, so I thought maybe it's true.
So soon after, he got a hold of some d bol and deca. LOL the 'Arnold' stack. Well, this fucker blew straight the hell up. He got leaner, harder, and was pushing 300 lbs, probably around 292 or so. He was inclining 4 plates easy for reps. His arms were 22", his chest now looked like balloons with striations. His legs, always a weak point, blew up too. Guy looked like a national level competitor in 8 weeks flat.
Anyway, I moved away shortly after, and haven't heard too much about him since. But man, I'll tell you that boy was a freak of nature...
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Go f**k yourself, asshole ! ;)
Viva la meltdown!!! Even quicker than I expected....nevertheless AHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!
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I have had my bodyweight as high as 248 lbs as well, hoping that it was muscle. Forcefeeding myself 6-10,000 calories daily from years 1999-2004. No Cardio. Easily hitting that caloric amount day in and day out. PRobably closer to 10,000 a day as I was drinking a gallon of whole milk a day.
O know you get roasted a lot on this baorad and yes sometimes ask for it ( as for all can be guilty of , me included)
On a serious note, I think you are a really serious bodybuilder, maybe too serious, who knows. I sincerely feel you have made consistant gains and should consider doing a show ( have you ?)
All the best and it is all in good fun for most of us here bro :)
Howard
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Viva la meltdown!!! Even quicker than I expected....nevertheless AHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!
And I wouldn't ever, even in my wildest dreams , expect any other type of response from you.......'meltdown'.... ::)
That's what every asshole with a pea for a brain shout out these days when they are called out on the boards.
Keep paying respects to your inteligence, brother...... :-\
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TA still thinks that DC training doesn't work. Man that's fantastic. He's still a dumbshit.
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TA what was your fastest 3.1 mile race?
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And I wouldn't ever, even in my wildest dreams , expect any other type of response from you.......'meltdown'.... ::)
That's what every asshole with a pea for a brain shout out these days when they are called out on the boards.
Keep paying respects to your inteligence, brother...... :-\
AHAHHAAHAH!!!! Your intellect is quite amazing "Mr. Michael Moore". Gayer than a plate of Vienna Sausages with cubed muenster cheese.
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Adonis = sarcasm = jezebelle
Adonis = sarcasm = jezebelle = EgoCrusher (recently)
The dude has an AOL account and his IP keeps changing... that's why he can open so many fake accounts...
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Thank you for the kind advice, save for the last sentence.
No I do not have a father around. Died when I was just a young boy, tragically.
Anyways,
That has nothing to do with my motivations. I enjoy the debate and teaching people truth. I feel I would be further ahead if I knew what I knew now. Thins such as what is possible in regards to physique development naturally.
I would have never been under the impression that I should bulk up in the hopes of being over 200 lbs ripped.
We all know, or should know that it is an impossibility if you are under 6 feet. I take the time to debate because I like to get the proper information out there.
I enjoy it.
Man these are the ultimate lies that me and you were victims of bro, the whole bulking up BS! but yet people still hate your guts when you are actually revealing the truth. UNGREATFUL SOULS. Adonis you are cool in my book of knowledge
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What Adonis is saying is nothing new.
See this Skip La Cour article:
"Bulking Up" Is So "Old School"
http://ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=212