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Title: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 04, 2006, 09:48:58 PM



ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FAMOUS IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...

Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 04, 2006, 09:51:44 PM
Interesting.  This was the second kid?
Still an abuse of power and breach of ethics.
No man in office can engage in online sex with an employee of his.

But the kid who got the other set of text messages - he was 16, right? 
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 04, 2006, 09:53:44 PM
Interesting.  This was the second kid?
Still an abuse of power and breach of ethics.
No man in office can engage in online sex with an employee of his.

But the kid who got the other set of text messages - he was 16, right? 

No, he was 18, they fucked up!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: tonyboloni on October 04, 2006, 10:39:58 PM
No, he was 18, they fucked up!
No, nice try, the info is only on ONE page. Don't expand it past what it is.  Follow the info to the original blog, it's on ONE page.  If Foley only solicited sex from 18 year olds then there wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem, I doubt he would have bailed into rehab, said he is gay and was molested as a child.  Think about it man, this has to be more than just about soliciting 18 year olds.  If it's not, he's the world's biggest butthead.  The ABC reporter called with the original accusation, and he called back a short time later and announced he would be resigning?  Way to clear things up if there was a mistake, pretty un-republican like wouldn't you say?  These days some really damaging material comes out on Republicans and gets laughed into the gutter because they have all the control and have done an incredible job of spinning to clean up any negative public perception.  Foley knows this, this is about more than soliciting an 18 year old.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 04, 2006, 10:48:31 PM
No, he was 18, they fucked up!

LOL, this is your defense?

You need to employ the Foley defense strategy, just keep throwing out bullschit excuses until something sticks.  ::)
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 04, 2006, 10:53:52 PM
I wonder why they didn't immediately deny the child was under 18? ???

The larger issues on here, bigger than if the boytoy was 16, 17, or 18, are:

--- why did he give an unusually high amount of 100,000 to the Repub party right after hastert was told?

--- Proof he was really in alcohol rehab (no one in DC has ever seen him drink at all- suddenly he's an out-of-control sloppy drunk? And why was he on AIM yesterday when he was supposedly in rehab? Is this man playing the alcoholic card?)

--- why won't Foley reveal the name of the Priest who abused him?  There is a man out there who has been grabbing little kids for 40 years now - and Foley won't out him?  What happened to protecting the children??  Plus, every priest who worked in those schools during his youth are now being followed by reporters, harassed.  If he lied, that is f'ed up.  If he's telling the truth, at least out the guy and protect the kids he works with now!

Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 04, 2006, 11:02:31 PM
I wonder why they didn't immediately deny the child was under 18? ???

The larger issues on here, bigger than if the boytoy was 16, 17, or 18, are:

--- why did he give an unusually high amount of 100,000 to the Repub party right after hastert was told?

--- Proof he was really in alcohol rehab (no one in DC has ever seen him drink at all- suddenly he's an out-of-control sloppy drunk? And why was he on AIM yesterday when he was supposedly in rehab? Is this man playing the alcoholic card?)

--- why won't Foley reveal the name of the Priest who abused him?  There is a man out there who has been grabbing little kids for 40 years now - and Foley won't out him?  What happened to protecting the children??  Plus, every priest who worked in those schools during his youth are now being followed by reporters, harassed.  If he lied, that is f'ed up.  If he's telling the truth, at least out the guy and protect the kids he works with now!



You know Mr. Intenseone is just going to blame the Democrats for all this anyway.

By the way, pulling the rehab card is the new standard for defusing a scandal. Of course it's all bullschit, he isn't even close to an alcoholic.

Oh, and apparently being molested by a member of the clergy is a new strategy for diffusing a scandal as well. Foley using that as an excuse is despicable. I can't believe he would stoop that low. Well, yes, I can believe it but still.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 04, 2006, 11:12:30 PM
By the way, pulling the rehab card is the new standard for defusing a scandal. Of course it's all bullschit, he isn't even close to an alcoholic.

Oh, and apparently being molested by a member of the clergy is a new strategy for diffusing a scandal as well. Foley using that as an excuse is despicable. I can't believe he would stoop that low. Well, yes, I can believe it but still.

Pat Kennedy used the AA card after driving drunk, and he still got beat up for it.  Chris mathews on hardball tonight, said he's spoken to quite a few people who know Foley, said Foley doesn't drink but 1-2 beers a week, and is probably faking the drunk thing.

He needs to name the priest who molested him.  He CANNOT play that card unless he is prepared to stop the animal from touching children.  And if he;s lying about the priest... holy shit...
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 04, 2006, 11:32:43 PM
paige ws 18 ...riiight...


i can go to pakistan and come back with authentic birth certs saying i'm 12...or 42...authentic i tell ya...for enough money..i can get em here :)...honest.. :)


man o man...you need to spend 1 yr in paki to really learn about corruption and how this world works...or just live your life out in the US..dont EVER move..you'll get eaten alive out there...
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Dos Equis on October 05, 2006, 12:14:28 AM
Wow.  Amazing how fast misinformation spreads. 

Hey I wonder if the kid is gay, since they have a higher age of consent for homosexuals, right Jag?   :)
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 06:47:08 AM
You know Mr. Intenseone is just going to blame the Democrats for all this anyway.



You mean the same way blame the entire Republican party for one persons screw up?
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 05, 2006, 07:19:58 AM
You mean the same way blame the entire Republican party for one persons screw up?

One person? You might want to double check your facts there zealot.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: OzmO on October 05, 2006, 07:31:38 AM


ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FAMOUS IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...



Did you like find this story and immediatly jump tot hte conclusion this is all a liberal scam to attack the republican party?

You didn't need to go through all that!

It's a conspiracy!  That much is obvious isn't?

There's no way a party built on Family Values ever could be anything but what it is.

Don't you realize Foley was made to do it and the rest of the IM's were fakes? 

And this whole thing is just a plan by the LIBERAL media to put Hillary in power so they can collect welfare in Bebetown, Iowa. 


 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 09:43:50 AM
Actually I found it from a credible source the Drudge Report!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: OzmO on October 05, 2006, 09:46:02 AM
Actually I found it from a credible source the Drudge Report!

I was just being jovially sarcastic. 

I saw it on drudge too.

But it doesn't take away from the fact Foley is a wack job and partially represents the republican party.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 05, 2006, 09:49:25 AM
But it does take away from the fact Foley is a wack job and partially represents the republican party.

I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, much like timothy mcveigh doesn't represent all white men.

However, you now have 2+ republicans stepping fwd to say they told Hastert.  Has nothing to do with the dems.   Evidence is starting to show that hastert knew and didn't act - his job.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 09:52:15 AM
One person? You might want to double check your facts there zealot.

I'll tell you what really pisses me of about the Republican party, everyday the Libs come up with something to bash the Republicans, the majority of it is just pure rhetoric but they still call for so and so should resign for and so and so should resign for that.....this is what bothers me, you don't hear very often about Republicans saying this person or that person should resign from the Dems, the bottomline is there is so much crap going on in that party but no one calls for the head of Polosi for the shit her party covers up.....I think it we played the same game the Dems played, we would win every election by a landslide!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 09:54:55 AM
I was just being jovially sarcastic. 

I saw it on drudge too.

But it doesn't take away from the fact Foley is a wack job and partially represents the republican party.

I agree, the dude is a wackjob and should have no place in congress!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 05, 2006, 09:55:31 AM
Mr I -

If it ends up that hastert knew about the IMs and emails between Foley and a male page working under him, should Hastert resign?

He failed to do his job by reporting it to the Ethics committee.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 09:59:46 AM
Mr I -

If it ends up that hastert knew about the IMs and emails between Foley and a male page working under him, should Hastert resign?

He failed to do his job by reporting it to the Ethics committee.

Tough call, the kid was 18. Did this interfere with Hastert not doing his job outside from not checking the IM's?
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 05, 2006, 10:03:33 AM
Tough call, the kid was 18. Did this interfere with Hastert not doing his job outside from not checking the IM's?

the ethics violation comes when Hastert didn't inform the Ethics Committee as he is required to do in any case of a member of Congress conducting inappropriate relationships with a subordinate.

The flirty emails should have been put on record and were not. 
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 10:08:20 AM
the ethics violation comes when Hastert didn't inform the Ethics Committee as he is required to do in any case of a member of Congress conducting inappropriate relationships with a subordinate.

The flirty emails should have been put on record and were not. 

Again, I fast would he have been labeled a gay basher?
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 05, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
I'll tell you what really pisses me of about the Republican party, everyday the Libs come up with something to bash the Republicans, the majority of it is just pure rhetoric but they still call for so and so should resign for and so and so should resign for that.....this is what bothers me, you don't hear very often about Republicans saying this person or that person should resign from the Dems, the bottomline is there is so much crap going on in that party but no one calls for the head of Polosi for the shit her party covers up.....I think it we played the same game the Dems played, we would win every election by a landslide!

You couldn't be more blinded by you zealot beliefs if you magically turned into Stevie Wonder.

Do you remember the Clinton administration? The Republicans were up in arms everyday calling for his head. Hell I don't even like Clinton, I think he's a weazel but the impeachment for lying about getting a blowjob crap was ridiculous.

The world knows Bush lied about numerous things relating to our country going to war, are you willing to impeach him?

This is why you are so outrageously pathetic. You demonize the Democrats for doing things the Republicans do.

That's the problem with zealots, they see things in only one way and usually that way is incorrect. Tunnel vision taken to the nth degree.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 10:24:54 AM
You couldn't be more blinded by you zealot beliefs if you magically turned into Stevie Wonder.

Do you remember the Clinton administration? The Republicans were up in arms everyday calling for his head. Hell I don't even like Clinton, I think he's a weazel but the impeachment for lying about getting a blowjob crap was ridiculous.

The world knows Bush lied about numerous things relating to our country going to war, are you willing to impeach him?

This is why you are so outrageously pathetic. You demonize the Democrats for doing things the Republicans do.

That's the problem with zealots, they see things in only one way and usually that way is incorrect. Tunnel vision taken to the nth degree.

You do realize that you're as big of a zealot as I am!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 05, 2006, 10:48:30 AM
You do realize that you're as big of a zealot as I am!

I don't know how someone without any political affiliation can be a zealot but ok.

Unlike you I think the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans and the Republicans are as bad as the Democrats.

My political decisions aren't based on political parties but rather common sense. That's why I thought McCain should have won the Republican nomination over Bush and that when he didn't I thought he should have run as an Independent. He was the dutiful soldier though.
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on October 05, 2006, 10:59:52 AM
I don't know how someone without any political affiliation can be a zealot but ok.

Unlike you I think the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans and the Republicans are as bad as the Democrats.

My political decisions aren't based on political parties but rather common sense. That's why I thought McCain should have won the Republican nomination over Bush and that when he didn't I thought he should have run as an Independent. He was the dutiful soldier though.

Why didn't you say that from the beginning, you sound like a complete Liberal, and if you're not affiliated, I assume you don't vote and if you don't vote, your Lib posts are completely meaningless (out of all fairness, they would be meaningless anyway ;D)!
Title: Re: PAGE WAS 18....NOT 16 Oops!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on October 05, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
Why didn't you say that from the beginning, you sound like a complete Liberal, and if you're not affiliated, I assume you don't vote and if you don't vote, your Lib posts are completely meaningless (out of all fairness, they would be meaningless anyway ;D)!

The only reason you assumed I was a Democrat was because I didn't back you on your ridiculous point of view. Stop making assumptions, you don't seem to be particularly accurate with them.