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Title: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 22, 2006, 10:25:37 PM
2ice ...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 22, 2006, 11:49:19 PM
2ice ...

My first serious girlfriend Maria.

The closest thing to love I can remember....

So far removed from that memory now.

I'm a completely different person, hardened by life's rough edges.

She was soft, smooth and delicious......for my hands, for my soul.

At least I have the memory.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: JasonH on November 23, 2006, 04:55:29 AM
Twice.

Firstly to the girl I lost my virginity to.

Secondly, my wife.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Butterbean on November 23, 2006, 06:32:33 AM
twice
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 23, 2006, 09:15:11 AM
Ya know...that's truly a tough question.  Each time we tell someone we love them (boyfriend/girlfriend) and mean it...aren't we saying that we're "in love" with them?

Maybe you meant "true love".  A love that never dies regardless of the circumstances.

That being said I believe that is what I have now.  It certainly feels like it.  I can't see my life without Michael.  My world revolves around him and our happiness together.  Every breath I take in is of him and exhale whispers his name.  He is my first thought in the morning and the very last thought before I fall asleep.  I can only hope to have this feeling forever.  To me, that is true love...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Playboy on November 23, 2006, 10:50:01 AM
Twice for me. I think i've been in lust a hell of a lot more.

PB
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: proschic on November 23, 2006, 02:00:37 PM
I've "loved" 2 guys....one being my husband

I've been "IN LOVE" only once.  I know now what it is really like to be in love and feel complete, simply from someone's existance.  I'm with Cheri when I say...I can't see myself without Bob. 

While I've lived a fun and interesting life...it was nothing compared to the life I have now.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deadpool on November 23, 2006, 07:12:02 PM
twice.  but I've been in like, plenty of times
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deadpool on November 23, 2006, 07:41:23 PM
stay away from coke! 
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 23, 2006, 08:11:12 PM
like i always say, it's a helluva drug.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 23, 2006, 08:32:30 PM
Between the ages of 14-19, nine times. Since then, twice.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 23, 2006, 08:36:52 PM

2 seems to be the magic no. in this thread . . .

I'm interested in hearing about what happened to love no. 1. 

I'm assuming y'all held on to no. 2.

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 23, 2006, 08:40:02 PM
There always has to be one tragedy...  :'(

What's your magic number then... come on... fess up!  :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 23, 2006, 08:47:57 PM
There always has to be one tragedy...  :'(

What's your magic number then... come on... fess up!  :)

still waiting for lightning to strike.   :(

what's your tragic story?

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 23, 2006, 08:56:26 PM
In a nutshell, fell madly in love with an "older" man... we were blissfully happy, ski weekends in Vermont, two dogs, laughed and talked into the wee hours, sailing weekends in the summer, supportive of each other's hopes and dreams, shared a love of theater and literature, the whole package... then his mid-life hit and he found religion in an extreme way. Wanted me to convert. I tried... but eventually it all fell apart. We shared custody of the dogs for awhile (not a good idea, trust me!). Finally, almost a year later, we had the "let's be friends lunch" where after a bunch of small talk, he said it was better when we were together, how he missed our life, how the religion thing was silly, etc... and at that moment, I hated him. Worse, I caught him sneaking a look at my hiney on the way out of the restaurant and never took another one of his calls again.  :) After that, life has been great.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 23, 2006, 09:03:31 PM
How can you say you've never been in love...  :(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 23, 2006, 09:21:02 PM
. . . and at that moment, I hated him.

i can and can't understand that.

I can't understand how you can hate someone you were in love with, but I do understand that b/c I've never really hated any of my exes.

How can I say it? I've just never been . . . I've quite liked (and continue to like to some degree) and been quite comfortable w my exes, but i can't really say i've placed any of them above everything else. maybe for a brief time, but it was usually b/c of the sex or guilt . . .
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 23, 2006, 09:32:47 PM
Maybe hate is a harsh word... disgusted was more like it. After all the grief, it turned out his "convictions" weren't all that. Besides, once you've tuned someone out, it's discomfiting to hear maudlin sentiments. (Plus, the sharing of the dogs had created some embarrassing situations.)

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How can I say it? I've just never been . . . I've quite liked (and continue to like to some degree) and been quite comfortable w my exes, but i can't really say i've placed any of them above everything else. maybe for a brief time, but it was usually b/c of the sex or guilt . . .

As for this other, I understand what you mean.  However, I have faith in you.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Migs on November 23, 2006, 09:58:27 PM
once and it was also my biggest tragedy.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Always Sore on November 24, 2006, 05:22:28 AM
I am not sure I ever kept track past the couple of special ones. The first real out of high school serious love was what I have both the fondest and saddest memorires of. Michele (turtle) was my best friend first (code for I wanted her with all my soul and she had just came out of a serious relationship and was affraid) she helped shape both good and bad standards I looked for for the rest of my life. I loved her with a passion and fury only youth knows. I also broke her heart with the crazy fire of young manhood that even to this day I feel bad about.I had a couple of degrees of love after including a girl I grew up with and my ex wife and a few times I felt I could be in love but pulled back. I have had occasion in my life to be extreamly passionate and even can say I fell in love with a friend of mine due to the closesness we shared over a long distance.

All that being said there is only one person I ever fell for after one date and love beyond myself and no matter where I go or what happens to me I consider myself lucky to know her, I call her my wife, and I hope I always have the honor of doing so because she treats me better then I deserve and if I live to be a hundred I will never be able to do enough for her to warrent all she has done for me.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Playboy on November 24, 2006, 05:56:44 AM
2 seems to be the magic no. in this thread . . .

I'm interested in hearing about what happened to love no. 1. 

I'm assuming y'all held on to no. 2.


Number 1 has to be the highschool puppy love thing. When that doesn't work it becomes heartbreaking especially since you don't know how to react being the first time. The second is the relationship you think is "the one" but it ends in tragady.

PB
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Always Sore on November 24, 2006, 07:49:08 AM
Number 1 has to be the highschool puppy love thing. When that doesn't work it becomes heartbreaking especially since you don't know how to react being the first time. The second is the relationship you think is "the one" but it ends in tragady.

PB

Thats spot on..:)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: mish on November 24, 2006, 07:49:56 AM
Number 1 has to be the highschool puppy love thing. When that doesn't work it becomes heartbreaking especially since you don't know how to react being the first time. The second is the relationship you think is "the one" but it ends in tragady.

PB

Damn! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Always Sore on November 24, 2006, 07:51:48 AM
Damn! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Morning Smurfette, hope you had a happy turkey day..:)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: mish on November 24, 2006, 07:54:05 AM
Morning! Yes I did thank you (I ate waaay too much), I hope yours went well also.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Always Sore on November 24, 2006, 07:55:37 AM
Morning! Yes I did thank you (I ate waaay too much), I hope yours went well also.

nope was a slight train wreck...:) I did enjoy the food and most of the company and the games were not bad.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: mish on November 24, 2006, 07:59:09 AM
Oh :( I'm sorry... well at least you said slight so I'm hoping it didn't dim the day for you too much. I actually got out of cooking this year so it was great - lol! I even scored an entire pumpkin pie to bring back home - my mommy loves me! ;D
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Always Sore on November 24, 2006, 08:19:22 AM
Oh :( I'm sorry... well at least you said slight so I'm hoping it didn't dim the day for you too much. I actually got out of cooking this year so it was great - lol! I even scored an entire pumpkin pie to bring back home - my mommy loves me! ;D

Good for you, I would am not a fan of pumpkin pie.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Migs on November 24, 2006, 08:25:35 AM
i am out of desserts lol.  Damn feel like prom all over again, lol.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 24, 2006, 08:26:25 AM
I made AWESOME Pumpking Muffin Stuffing for Thanksgiving.  :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: mish on November 24, 2006, 08:30:01 AM
Was it Rachel Ray's recipe? I saw her making one on her show.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 24, 2006, 08:32:31 AM
Was it Rachel Ray's recipe? I saw her making one on her show.
YUP!
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: mish on November 24, 2006, 08:35:17 AM
Cool! I was wondering how that would actually taste.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 24, 2006, 08:36:13 AM
Cool! I was wondering how that would actually taste.

It is really good.  It was actually the highlight of the dinner.  Everyone raved about it.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Migs on November 24, 2006, 08:45:41 AM
um can we get back on point?  I wanna hear more about other peoples tragedies thanks!
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 24, 2006, 11:06:09 AM
um can we get back on point?  I wanna hear more about other peoples tragedies thanks!
>:(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Dina on November 24, 2006, 12:31:41 PM
does puppy love count? I have told several people I loved them, but now that I look back there was a distict difference in my feeling then and now.
As far as tragedy.. my high school crush and I had a super intense relationship and he broke my heart....  I was devastated but now that I lsee/talk him, I dont know what the big deal was..
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: arigato on November 24, 2006, 12:33:21 PM
2ice ...

i think i fall in and out of love everyday when i see a hotchick~ :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Playboy on November 24, 2006, 01:57:34 PM
Was it Rachel Ray's recipe? I saw her making one on her show.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...Rachel Ray...I think I just fell in love..Uhhhhhhhhhhhh I mean lust  :P

PB
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Playboy on November 24, 2006, 01:59:09 PM
does puppy love count? I have told several people I loved them, but now that I look back there was a distict difference in my feeling then and now.
As far as tragedy.. my high school crush and I had a super intense relationship and he broke my heart....  I was devastated but now that I lsee/talk him, I dont know what the big deal was..
Thats just it though...it was love back then even though you were younger and didn't know any better. Now that your older and wiser it may seem different. i would think it counts, Dina.

PB
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 24, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
i think i fall in and out of love everyday when i see a hotchick~ :)
arigato, please go to this link (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=93039.125) and agree to the terms of posting on this board, or your posts here will be deleted per the terms of that link.

Thank you!

Cheri.  :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 25, 2006, 07:48:57 AM
Thats just it though...it was love back then even though you were younger and didn't know any better. Now that your older and wiser it may seem different. i would think it counts, Dina.

PB

Back then, a broken heart entailed... not eating for days, not being able to concentrate on anything, lying listlessly on the bed replaying the break-up, not sleeping, getting teary-eyed at any given moment, listening to the same three sad songs over and over again, staring at pics, wanting to die... then three weeks later waking up and having a new crush.  :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Migs on November 25, 2006, 08:20:48 AM
love can royally suck
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: newmom on November 25, 2006, 08:43:44 AM
I agree with Cheri and Tasha...I may have said it more than twice but in hindsight I would have to say once and that would be Ralph (whom is my greatest love)..I doubt I will find that again, and in so many ways I dont want to find that again..now my greatest love is my daughter..
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on November 25, 2006, 09:41:48 AM
what kind of love are we talking about?  >I didn't ever find the father of my children, so never had any...

I had 3x 4 year relationshops and a lot of weekends on the way.


I was comepletley and utterllley in love each time (Itried)



at the moment, I have one-night stands getting back in touch.  (Last night I got a tesxt saying "ya woman, we'da made beautiful babies"   I've not answered yet. 

I'm old enough to be his mother.  No I'm not, 'cos i never did.

Im cynical.  that's just a line to get me in bed, no?
Make sure he brings acondom



xL
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 25, 2006, 01:17:37 PM
stay away from coke! 

my #s would be cut in half if i had ;D
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 25, 2006, 01:19:44 PM
i think i fall in and out of love everyday when i see a hotchick~ :)

you need to get laid more so u can tell the difference... :-\


but not too much cause going wayyyy over board will retract from your ability to fall in the first place..

there...hope that makes sence..
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: proschic on November 25, 2006, 07:34:02 PM
I agree with Cheri and Tasha...I may have said it more than twice but in hindsight I would have to say once and that would be Ralph (whom is my greatest love)..I doubt I will find that again, and in so many ways I dont want to find that again..now my greatest love is my daughter..

I'm with you on that one....although I am absolutely crazy inlove with Bob, and would do anything to make him happy...I am totally inlove with this little girl growing inside me!  Its completely different...but yet the same because its also a part of him as well.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: newmom on November 25, 2006, 07:39:45 PM
yes but its sooooooo hard when u love someone that looks like someone that just crushed you to pieces
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: proschic on November 25, 2006, 08:17:41 PM
yes but its sooooooo hard when u love someone that looks like someone that just crushed you to pieces

I can imagine, hon.  :-\

But like I've said...you have the best part of him.  She knows you as her provider, and she will forever remember YOU being there!  Thats what will matter in the long run.  The pain from him will eventually go away...you get to look at your baby's gorgeous smile for the rest of your life!! 

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 26, 2006, 07:54:32 AM
yes but its sooooooo hard when u love someone that looks like someone that just crushed you to pieces
...believe me...you get over it.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Theoak* on November 27, 2006, 06:03:47 AM
Once and we just broke up recently, hurts really bad. I feel utterly crushed and hopeless inside like a part of me has died. :(.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: newmom on November 27, 2006, 09:40:14 AM
Once and we just broke up recently, hurts really bad. I feel utterly crushed and hopeless inside like a part of me has died. :(.

oak I totally understand were you are coming from, mine is recent too...if you ever need an ear to bend..I'm a great listener, so is cheri lane and proschick..i know i have bent their ears a few times
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 27, 2006, 10:05:40 AM
oak I totally understand were you are coming from, mine is recent too...if you ever need an ear to bend..I'm a great listener, so is cheri lane and proschick..i know i have bent their ears a few times
Awww, no prob.  We are there for ya Dee.  xoxo
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Laura Lee on November 28, 2006, 07:48:18 AM
^That sounds like a nice way of describing raw, deep anal sex.


DIV
ummm no  pig  >:(   

remember where you are...behave
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 28, 2006, 07:54:26 AM
ummm no  pig  >:(   

remember where you are...behave

I was just being honest.    ;)

Women LOVE honesty.




DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: YoMamaBeenLurking on November 28, 2006, 08:13:45 AM
I was just being honest.    ;)

Women LOVE honesty.




DIV


Except on this board?   :D
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: MiniMiggy on November 28, 2006, 08:49:17 AM
^That sounds like a nice way of describing raw, deep anal sex.





DIV

Guys who make comments like these are similar to guys who feel compelled to flash women on subways.  They have to thrust their crude masculinity into everything because they have a huge need to compensate for shortcomings.  How tall are you DIVISION?

EDIT:  I don't mean that all short men overcompensate. I was just using it as a place to start.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: YoMamaBeenLurking on November 28, 2006, 09:04:39 AM
Guys who make comments like these are similar to guys who feel compelled to flash women on subways. They have to thrust their crude masculinity into everything because they have a huge need to compensate for shortcomings.  How tall are you DIVISION?

EDIT:  I don't mean that all short men overcompensate. I was just using it as a place to start.


ROFLMAO, that's quite a leap. 
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: MiniMiggy on November 28, 2006, 09:12:16 AM

ROFLMAO, that's quite a leap. 

I said "similar".  The motives are the same, even if they don't express themselves in exactly the same way.  >:(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 28, 2006, 12:32:50 PM
Guys who make comments like these are similar to guys who feel compelled to flash women on subways.  They have to thrust their crude masculinity into everything because they have a huge need to compensate for shortcomings.  How tall are you DIVISION?

EDIT:  I don't mean that all short men overcompensate. I was just using it as a place to start.

Take your crude attempt at barnyard Psychology somewhere else, please.

It was a joke........get over it.

I'm not thrusting anything at anyone, esp on this site.

The type of women I go for do not frequent fitness boards.




DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 28, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
Take your crude attempt at barnyard Psychology somewhere else, please.

It was a joke........get over it.

I'm not thrusting anything at anyone, esp on this site.

The type of women I go for do not frequent fitness boards.




DIV

barnyard psychology . . .  ;D













is the exclusive province of DIVISION, people.

When are y'all going to learn?

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 28, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
barnyard psychology . . .













is the exclusive province of DIVISION, people.

When are y'all going to learn. 

and you got bitter pretty much covered here on getbig dontcha my arghan fighting  army leading ::) ole fiend of mine! :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 28, 2006, 07:50:31 PM
Guys who make comments like these are similar to guys who feel compelled to flash women on subways.  They have to thrust their crude masculinity into everything because they have a huge need to compensate for shortcomings.  How tall are you DIVISION?

EDIT:  I don't mean that all short men overcompensate. I was just using it as a place to start.


miggy ya just gotta remember ..Divs passion for anal is only surpassed by....well nothing..

frankly i'm in awe and its a trend i think that should be encouraged.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Al-Gebra on November 28, 2006, 07:51:10 PM

I know you feel neglected these days, my dear toxie, but don't blame yourself . . . nobody is worthy to even carry the sandals of the great DIVISION. 

even my getbig handle is a homage to his greateness.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 28, 2006, 07:52:19 PM
does puppy love count? I have told several people I loved them, but now that I look back there was a distict difference in my feeling then and now.
As far as tragedy.. my high school crush and I had a super intense relationship and he broke my heart....  I was devastated but now that I lsee/talk him, I dont know what the big deal was..


we have a long overdue date to get shitfaced woman >:(   
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 28, 2006, 07:52:55 PM
I know you feel neglected these days, my dear toxie, but don't blame yourself . . . nobody is worthy to even carry the sandals of the great DIVISION. 

even my getbig handle is a homage to his greateness.
schwing..n a miss :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 28, 2006, 08:19:41 PM
I know you feel neglected these days, my dear toxie, but don't blame yourself . . . nobody is worthy to even carry the sandals of the great DIVISION. 

even my getbig handle is a homage to his greateness.

......another Jimmy gimmick?

.....and I ask again, why is he allowed here?



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 28, 2006, 08:29:22 PM
......another Jimmy gimmick?

.....and I ask again, why is he allowed here?



DIV

nah..al geb is an original..jimmy at least is smart and when he wants to...can actually get under peoples skin..
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 29, 2006, 04:26:54 PM
nah..al geb is an original..jimmy at least is smart and when he wants to...can actually get under peoples skin..

I don't remember this Al-Jazeera character from before.....

You sure it's not a jimmy gimmick?




DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on November 30, 2006, 05:35:12 AM
No, Al-G is for real and is totally loveable.


I've decided I love money sometimes more than people.  I'm going out big time shopping now.  I very rarely have enough £'s.


I've never said I love you to a lover and I hate it when they say it to me.

I've only told my mum and dad, my girlfriends, my great neighbours >and a few children (other peoples) that I love them.  Love you, Mean it... moi moi.

No wonder I didn't get married and have kids


xxx
Linda

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on November 30, 2006, 07:16:00 AM
No, Al-G is for real and is totally loveable.


Yes, true, there is something completely loveable about Al-Gebra.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 30, 2006, 02:25:25 PM
I don't remember this Al-Jazeera character from before.....

You sure it's not a jimmy gimmick?




DIV


hmm yeah but this guy sounds genuinely bitter n dumb...

if its jimmy..he's doing a good job fooling me...

who friggin knows though.. :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on November 30, 2006, 03:14:27 PM
Ali-G is the reverse opposite of bitter and dumb.  He's cynical and clever.

ok?
xL


mad and somewhat funny ugly, but anyways...
that's the way I've been feeling too.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on November 30, 2006, 03:23:36 PM
Take your crude attempt at barnyard Psychology somewhere else, please.

It was a joke........get over it.

I'm not thrusting anything at anyone, esp on this site.

The type of women I go for do not frequent fitness boards.




DIV

makes sense to me.  get off then.

This is the girly board and you'll never do any better.  The type of women you go for frequent where?

Save us your grief and go out


ps:  STella?  Hey, has any bloke yet been banned from the girly board (since I was the first woman to do so?      xxxxxxxxx


Sometimes I wish you'd ban the lot and let us just relax and smile?

And if you did decide some bloke was over the top how would you get shot of him anyways?  just hit backspace and go elsewhere?



Love ya, Mean it, Kisses
moi moi
Linda
x


I still think it'd be far better and far funnier if you had a girls only forum.  We could talk about shoes and men and men could just watch and learn but not be allowed.  My theory, just one little funny thread.  It'd be great.


xL
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Original Sin on November 30, 2006, 08:51:32 PM
Back on topic...

I have sort of avoided this one, hits a little to close to home.

I would have to say I honestly don't know...

I have been with several men and been proposed to twice and said no both times, so is that love?  I don't think so.

Recently I have been losing sleep and crying a lot over somebody I know I am no good for, is that love?

Now I am "comforting" a married friend going through a separation, it won't lead anyway so I am pretty sure that isn't love either. 

Maybe I don't know what love is, does anybody?



edit: this is sort of cryptic xxxLinda stuff.  Shows how much I don't know about it, I guess  ???
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 30, 2006, 09:57:28 PM
Ali-G is the reverse opposite of bitter and dumb.  He's cynical and clever.

ok?
xL


mad and somewhat funny ugly, but anyways...
that's the way I've been feeling too.


its algeb....not ali g...yeesh...no coke before posting woman >:(


note to linda : when coked up...stay away from phones and the putter...

the phone advice...is coming from personal experience...you'll make calls you'll regret..

hope this helps
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 30, 2006, 10:06:52 PM
Back on topic...

I have sort of avoided this one, hits a little to close to home.

I would have to say I honestly don't know...

I have been with several men and been proposed to twice and said no both times, so is that love?  I don't think so.

Recently I have been losing sleep and crying a lot over somebody I know I am no good for, is that love?

Now I am "comforting" a married friend going through a separation, it won't lead anyway so I am pretty sure that isn't love either. 

Maybe I don't know what love is, does anybody?



edit: this is sort of cryptic xxxLinda stuff.  Shows how much I don't know about it, I guess  ???

hey...i dont agree with some of the posts ya make but this one touched me...

you'll know when it happens...oh trust me " the agony of beng in love" is apparent..

my first love..i remember once she ws supposed to go out to a night club with her friends...she ws supposed to call me (wake me up..i loved getting woken up by her voice) at 3 am when she got back...

ws i worried she would dance with and kiss someone else..NOPE...

all i could think about all night ws..." please god..let her be safe..please dont let her be too drunk to drive...please dont let the cops pull her over..please dont let anyone follow her to her car" ..and i'm a fucking athiest...i ws worried sick..i didn't show it at all when she told me she ws going..

soo..come 3 am right...and at this point i haven't slept at all..i'm sitting in front of the phone...the phone of course angled perfectly so the signals are full..sitting on my bed waiting...yanno i waited till 9 am...sitting ..just like that...almost in tears ..thinking something really terrible had happened....and soooo fucking mad at her...

..and then she called..around after 9..and i had planned to be soo mad at her..but as soon as i heard her voice over the phone...oh no not even that..as soon as i heard the phone right...it ws like my whole existance made sence again...it ws like i ws alive again...i could finally continue with my life knowing that she ws ok...i had planned to be so mad but all i needed to know (needed not wanted) ws that she ok..

turns out..she had gotton 2 drunk and had come home ealiesh...and had fallen asleep waiting for 3 am...


my happiness depended on hers...my world revolved around her...and hers mine...


i remember one time i forgot to call her...and when i did..she ws trying to be calm but i could sense that she ws almost in tears...


trust me...you'll know... :)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 30, 2006, 10:09:09 PM
When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes
 I all alone beweep my outcast state,
 And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
 And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
 Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
 Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
 Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
 With what I most enjoy contented least;
 Yet in these thoughts my self almost despising,
 Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
 Like to the lark at break of day arising
 From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings
 That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
[/b]
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on November 30, 2006, 10:53:48 PM
makes sense to me.  get off then.

This is the girly board and you'll never do any better.  The type of women you go for frequent where?

The type of women I go for aren't "fitness types".

They might go to the gym and workout, but they aren't heavily in to it to the degree that most of you are.

It is possible to be healthy and workout, yet leave it at the gym.

If the post is not directed to you, why are you responding?

If the shoe fits....

I still think it'd be far better and far funnier if you had a girls only forum.  We could talk about shoes and men and men could just watch and learn but not be allowed.  My theory, just one little funny thread.  It'd be great.

Watch and learn what?

...as I said before, the type of women I date aren't in to the typical things that most women are.

Less superficial, more intellectual = Less shoe talk, more deep thought.

Maybe I don't know what love is, does anybody?

I have loved women, but excluding my first girlfriend, I haven't been "in love".

My first was memorable because it was the first connection I had, but that wasn't love as I know it to be now......it was infatuation and friendship.

.....at the time, though, it felt like everything.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on November 30, 2006, 11:28:54 PM
Div ....bro...you r who you r man....


and what every FUCKING...body keeps forgetting is.....you dont go around licking asshole on here...for the offshoot chance that you might meet some female from on here and lose out on an opportunity to fuck her..


EVERY OTHER guys on here does it.....OHHHH yeah girls ...they do.... .. :)


news eh! ;)
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 01, 2006, 09:42:28 AM

miggy ya just gotta remember ..Divs passion for anal is only surpassed by....well nothing..

frankly i'm in awe and its a trend i think that should be encouraged.

People who are overly obsessed with AS watch too much internet porn.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:08:20 AM

its algeb....not ali g...yeesh...no coke before posting woman >:(


note to linda : when coked up...stay away from phones and the putter...

the phone advice...is coming from personal experience...you'll make calls you'll regret..

hope this helps


I hate coke, you don't wanna see me on coke.  I've seen enough friends go mental on that nasty drug...   I'm a manic depressive and if I do cocaine, well, just imagine.  I prefer mj.   I need downers, I'm hyper active or something and I'm not being overdramatic.

Let me re-read your post and then I'll reply properly.  What did you say?

x
L
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:10:12 AM
watch too much internet porn.


I've never done that, ought I?

x


what do I google?
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:12:03 AM
I don't know what love is, does anybody?




yep, I do.

It's something you half get (if you're lucky) from your parents.  then you need to love yourself. 


then >and always >>>God or whatever they call it nowadays.



Something inside your heart?
x
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
The type of women I go for aren't "fitness types".

They might go to the gym and workout, but they aren't heavily in to it to the degree that most of you are.

It is possible to be healthy and workout, yet leave it at the gym.

If the post is not directed to you, why are you responding?

If the shoe fits....

Watch and learn what?

...as I said before, the type of women I date aren't in to the typical things that most women are.

Less superficial, more intellectual = Less shoe talk, more deep thought.

I have loved women, but excluding my first girlfriend, I haven't been "in love".

My first was memorable because it was the first connection I had, but that wasn't love as I know it to be now......it was infatuation and friendship.

.....at the time, though, it felt like everything.



DIV



makes sense to me, at least you're semi-honest.

thanks
xetc
Linda


>forgiven?


ps:  I'm still trying to work out tingntings new moniker.  Any ideas?  He can't type so it can't be diesel or wishtobebigger or what's that other one...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:17:05 AM
DIVISION, yes, him.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:21:49 AM
If the post is not directed to you, why are you responding?



Because I'm allowed to and I'm not banned.
x


and I type and read at an amazing speed.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 11:41:30 AM
oh hang on  :::


Original Sin:


Love is the Question.  There is no answer.
[/color]
hang about:



If Love is the Answer, what is the Question?

x
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 01, 2006, 12:45:15 PM
People who are overly obsessed with AS watch too much internet porn.


hey i dont get it have it often...hardly...


i keep the hope alive...

i make it my alpha...and omega! :P

and i have only 1 porno dvd...and i'm kinda sick of watching it :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 01, 2006, 01:08:36 PM

hey i dont get it have it often...hardly...


Lol, I wasn't referring my comment to you.  You seem like you like many activities.  :)  But there are some people who talk about it incessantly and perhaps it's related to watching too many porn flicks devoted to that particular endeavor.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 01:56:32 PM
3x

and I faked it both timesxx.



xLinda
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Mimi6 on December 01, 2006, 02:16:05 PM
2 x's

Pleased to say that one of the two is current.
then you need to love yourself. 

x

I have to say that I totally agree with loving yourself, that is where it begins.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 02:24:12 PM
2 x's

Pleased to say that one of the two is current.
I have to say that I totally agree with loving yourself, that is where it begins.
\


If you don't love yourself, who is going to?

I'm gonna buy myself flowers tomorrow.
xetc
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Mimi6 on December 01, 2006, 02:32:02 PM
I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you are serious. I am leaning toward sarcasm.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 02:34:09 PM
yep, they were all lovely but i went away.  cannot explain that, perhaps it's due to my dad's death and he can no longer give me away ?


xzxx
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 02:37:35 PM
I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you are serious. I am leaning toward sarcasm.


nope, I mainly do cynicsm (sp)


etc.
Linda
xxxx


from the school of hard knocks

Happy Everything and Merry Always
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Mimi6 on December 01, 2006, 02:40:26 PM
Well, not to be too mushy but I am sorry to here about your father passing.

I have the belief that we; especially women need to start with ourselves first. That way you won't take shit from guys and just fall for the first idiot that say's "I Love You".

Hopefully I am not alone on this one?


Mimi6
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 02:46:27 PM
sarcasm  isseriousnesss
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 02:48:58 PM
Well, not to be too mushy but I am sorry to here about your father passing.

I have the belief that we; especially women need to start with ourselves first. That way you won't take shit from guys and just fall for the first idiot that say's "I Love You".

Hopefully I am not alone on this one?


Mimi6

how old r u?  only kidding, but you sound kinda young...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Mimi6 on December 01, 2006, 03:13:39 PM
how old r u?  only kidding, but you sound kinda young...

I am 31 years young ;)

What did I say that gave you the impression that I am young. You know what; I have 3 daughters that I am talking to all of the time so that could be it. Not sure.

Mimi6
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 03:20:01 PM
I am 31 years young ;)

What did I say that gave you the impression that I am young. You know what; I have 3 daughters that I am talking to all of the time so that could be it. Not sure.

Mimi6


we were born young.


I love other people's children, i really do

josting
xL
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 03:24:28 PM
I am 31 years young ;)


 gave you the impression that I am young.
Mimi6


Baby,  someone once told me that you have a dream at 18 and wake up and you're 42.  (When I was 16)


I used to think 30 was old, then I hit 40.  Now I'm closer to 50 and I don't look any different.



kiss those kids
xxx
etc
I didn't have any
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 03:27:04 PM
wow, I got 2 pages now to read, it all came up. 


come back to u










the future is where I wanna be xL
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 03:57:42 PM
i love mad music and i've been in love a zillion times


xxx
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: az on December 01, 2006, 05:39:53 PM
I've been in love enough times to know that it taks way more than being in love to make a relationship work.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 01, 2006, 07:20:11 PM
People who are overly obsessed with AS watch too much internet porn.

Who's overly obsessed?

I like anal sex and a woman's ass in general....

Every relationship I've had, I've introduced the female to anal and the orgasms that can come from it.

If you've had an anal orgasm, you'd understand why some women say they are the most intense.

Between that and G-Spot...


DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: alexxx on December 01, 2006, 07:46:16 PM
love is for the weak
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: 24KT on December 01, 2006, 08:34:08 PM
People who are overly obsessed with AS watch too much internet porn.

Oh my goodness Deedee, I think you've inadvertently hit upon the motivation for AS's username.
That's why he's Always Sore.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: 24KT on December 01, 2006, 08:35:33 PM

I hate coke, you don't wanna see me on coke.  I've seen enough friends go mental on that nasty drug...   I'm a manic depressive and if I do cocaine, well, just imagine.  I prefer mj.   I need downers, I'm hyper active or something and I'm not being overdramatic.

Let me re-read your post and then I'll reply properly.  What did you say?

x
L

Really Linda? YOU... manic & hyperactive? ...hmmm, if you hadn't told us, ...we never would have guessed.  :P
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 01, 2006, 09:40:58 PM

I bet you have a tiny dick.  Go for it you're the asshole.

Sounds like you're still bitter over some bad anal sex experiences of your own....

Don't blame me for your lack of judgement.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 09:45:19 PM
what's a bad experience?  saying no?

or no thankyou...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 01, 2006, 10:18:51 PM
Oh my goodness Deedee, I think you've inadvertently hit upon the motivation for AS's username.
That's why he's Always Sore.


he he he

(LOL


xetc.
linda

that's him outed...




but what does ymbl stand for?
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 02, 2006, 07:48:31 AM
Who's overly obsessed?

I like anal sex and a woman's ass in general....

Every relationship I've had, I've introduced the female to anal and the orgasms that can come from it.

If you've had an anal orgasm, you'd understand why some women say they are the most intense.

Between that and G-Spot...


DIV

I doubt anyone questions your love of that particular activity, and I thank you for your elucidating, although condescending, instruction in that area. However, you don't know me, and have no idea whether I need this info or not.  You seem to have certain relationship issues and maybe you might want to focus some attention there.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 02, 2006, 07:52:48 AM
Oh my goodness Deedee, I think you've inadvertently hit upon the motivation for AS's username.
That's why he's Always Sore.

I highly doubt it Judes, but think he already got teased down at the V board.  :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 02, 2006, 09:12:15 AM
I doubt anyone questions your love of that particular activity, and I thank you for your elucidating, although condescending, instruction in that area. However, you don't know me, and have no idea whether I need this info or not.  You seem to have certain relationship issues and maybe you might want to focus some attention there.

You made the generalization and I just responded to your statement.

No more, no less.

You don't have to like it, but it doesn't change my opinion.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 02, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
You made the generalization and I just responded to your statement.

No more, no less.

You don't have to like it, but it doesn't change my opinion.

DIV

I think you often respond to posts with a sense of self-absorbedness. Perhaps you should look at that when dealing with your relationships. Or not.

None of this changes my opinion either.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 02, 2006, 10:08:54 AM
I think you often respond to posts with a sense of self-absorbedness. Perhaps you should look at that when dealing with your relationships. Or not.

None of this changes my opinion either.

I think you're a bit too worried about my relationships and your ideas regarding them and less about the actual topic which was anal sex and the statement you made regarding it.

There's no correlation between the two and trying to create one that isn't there only makes it look like you have an agenda.

If you can't rationalize the validity of your opinion, I'm not going to take it or you seriously.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Jodi on December 02, 2006, 10:11:45 AM

Less superficial, more intellectual = Less shoe talk, more deep thought.  DIV

Both can be done very adequately without compromise to one or the other, Division.  A person just has to understand who his or her audience is and then play to that.  The best conversationalist can flip channels of topics with no trouble at all.

I watched Enduring Love, with Daniel Craig, last night.  I would have to say this wasn't necessarily the best movie but definitely intriguing enough to keep me up on a Friday night.  It's based upon a novel about a freak balloon accident and the events that occur in a professor's life after he makes a split, subconscious decision during that accident.

Anyway, this professor (Daniel Craig) teaches his students that love is biological.  We don't control it.  We just act on it.  Everything regarding love occurs for the simple sake of procreation and survival of the species.  I don't buy the whole package of that thought process, but I do find some inkling of truth to it.  If you examine the first six months of a relationship versus the remaining years (or days, depending upon how short-lived the romance is), you find a huge difference in the surge of hormones and the eventual deflation of them.  Many relationships reach the breaking point at the six month mark, which is supposedly when a person stops creating fiction and starts bringing reality to the relationship.

I have been in love.  More than once.  One time in college...twice since then.  All times have failed, so I have to wonder about love.  Is it something to be recycled?  Washed and worn again?  It feels almost like a Tupperware container.  You can use it only so many times before you must throw it away.  So, how many times do you put your heart through the process?  And how long must you scrub to get rid of the dirt from the previous "love" affair?  And when do you throw your hands up and say, "This is trash.  I'm better off without this."?

I haven't been in love in two years.  It's taken that long to recover from what I went through.  I step gently now and am very aware of my own instincts and trust that inner voice of mine so much more than I had in the past.  Actually, I ignored it in the past.  I won't let anyone damage me again.  And I don't mean that in the same way I did a year ago...as in the form of a freezing cold, brick wall.  It now comes neatly and warmly packaged as self respect.

I think that one has to remember that the initial stages of love are lust and infatuation.  You have to move through those and look at your partner in a clear light and accept them--cracks and all--before you know if it's true love.  And if you consciously allow someone's "cracks" to break your soul or your heart, then maybe this isn't healthy love but instead a sense of codependence and an avoidance of looking within and fixing/loving yourself.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 02, 2006, 10:20:43 AM
I think you're a bit too worried about my relationships and your ideas regarding them and less about the actual topic which was anal sex and the statement you made regarding it.

There's no correlation between the two and trying to create one that isn't there only makes it look like you have an agenda.

If you can't rationalize the validity of your opinion, I'm not going to take it or you seriously.
DIV

The topic actually was "How Many Times Have Ya Been in Love" not anal sex. I'm not worried about your relationships, but we spend a lot of time reading about them, along with what seems like your unwillingness to compromise in any way.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 02, 2006, 10:30:41 AM
Both can be done very adequately without compromise to one or the other, Division.  A person just has to understand who his or her audience is and then play to that.  The best conversationalist can flip channels of topics with no trouble at all.

I watched Enduring Love, with Daniel Craig, last night.  I would have to say this wasn't necessarily the best movie but definitely intriguing enough to keep me up on a Friday night.  It's based upon a novel about a freak balloon accident and the events that occur in a professor's life after he makes a split, subconscious decision during that accident.

Anyway, this professor (Daniel Craig) teaches his students that love is biological.  We don't control it.  We just act on it.  Everything regarding love occurs for the simple sake of procreation and survival of the species.  I don't buy the whole package of that thought process, but I do find some inkling of truth to it.  If you examine the first six months of a relationship versus the remaining years (or days, depending upon how short-lived the romance is), you find a huge difference in the surge of hormones and the eventual deflation of them.  Many relationships reach the breaking point at the six month mark, which is supposedly when a person stops creating fiction and starts bringing reality to the relationship.

I have been in love.  More than once.  One time in college...twice since then.  All times have failed, so I have to wonder about love.  Is it something to be recycled?  Washed and worn again?  It feels almost like a Tupperware container.  You can use it only so many times before you must throw it away.  So, how many times do you put your heart through the process?  And how long must you scrub to get rid of the dirt from the previous "love" affair?  And when do you throw your hands up and say, "This is trash.  I'm better off without this."?

I haven't been in love in two years.  It's taken that long to recover from what I went through.  I step gently now and am very aware of my own instincts and trust that inner voice of mine so much more than I had in the past.  Actually, I ignored it in the past.  I won't let anyone damage me again.  And I don't mean that in the same way I did a year ago...as in the form of a freezing cold, brick wall.  It now comes neatly and warmly packaged as self respect.

I think that one has to remember that the initial stages of love are lust and infatuation.  You have to move through those and look at your partner in a clear light and accept them--cracks and all--before you know if it's true love.  And if you consciously allow someone's "cracks" to break your soul or your heart, then maybe this isn't healthy love but instead a sense of codependence and an avoidance of looking within and fixing/loving yourself.


Jodi,

I wish more women were like you mentally.  

I think you've made good obvservations in regards to the biological aspects of relationships.

There is an initial surge of hormones at the beginning and those do wane over time, whereupon the reality takes over and you start to see the flaws in your partner and they you.

I've learned to keep things real in the beginning, regardless of how attracted I am to a woman and remember to stay true to my principles even if it does conflict with the progression of the relationship.

In the end, a relationship breaks down in to a series of patterns and whatever will be, will be.  If it is meant to sustain, then it will because both have common bonds, interests and genuinely like each other as people irregardless of physical attributes.  

I'm my last relationship, I learned the difference between compromise and extending myself too far and I will never do that again for a woman.

I also learned that full disclosure is mandatory, esp as it pertains to baggage because in the end, that baggage is what you will be dealing with as you navigate through a relationship with someone.

Sometimes the baggage is just too much to overcome, despite the best intentions.

I'm the type of person that is fully invested in a relationship when I choose to be in it, and very stubborn in that way.  I don't just give up on relationships, even when my rational side is telling me that it's not going to work.

I'm learning though.



DIV

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 02, 2006, 11:50:16 AM
Lol, I wasn't referring my comment to you.  You seem like you like many activities.  :)  But there are some people who talk about it incessantly and perhaps it's related to watching too many porn flicks devoted to that particular endeavor.


i ws gonna make a wilderian joke..buuut...i'm 2 sick...


wilderian...anal...'buut' ..get it :P
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 02, 2006, 11:53:33 AM
Who's overly obsessed?

I like anal sex and a woman's ass in general....

Every relationship I've had, I've introduced the female to anal and the orgasms that can come from it.

If you've had an anal orgasm, you'd understand why some women say they are the most intense.

Between that and G-Spot...


DIV


this kinda talk makes me happy ;D 


also..boobies make me happy...

also cute but clumsy girls make me happy....they r fun to watch


i have no point here...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 02, 2006, 12:04:23 PM
 It feels almost like a Tupperware container.  You can use it only so many times before you must throw it away.  So, how many times do you put your heart through the process?  And how long must you scrub to get rid of the dirt from the previous "love" affair?  And when do you throw your hands up and say, "This is trash.  I'm better off without this."?



If I believed that my reply were made
to one who could ever climb to the world again,
this flame would shake no more. But since no shade
ever returned -- if what I am told is true --
from this blind world into the living light
i can answer you without fear of infamy.
   :)         <preface to prufrock..from dantes inferno>



as many times as it takes hon :)...would you realy wanna live in a soapopera relatioship?   .. my brother once said " love is what we fall back on when we r tired of fucking"...


so whats the alternative?  going thru life sleeping with people that yu're not really interested in?   ..unacceptable..



Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 02, 2006, 02:43:47 PM
so whats the alternative?  going thru life sleeping with people that yu're not really interested in?   ..unacceptable..

Right.

That's what it comes down to.

I'm not willing to do that, it's just not me...



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 02, 2006, 08:24:39 PM
Right.

That's what it comes down to.

I'm not willing to do that, it's just not me...



DIV

sonnet 116..and i truly believe this


Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.








..everytime i read this sonnet..i get a lump in my throat...
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Parker on December 03, 2006, 06:24:31 AM
Right.

That's what it comes down to.

I'm not willing to do that, it's just not me...



DIV

I am..
Never been in love, there have been times, but due to the lack of character in the woman, it never panned out. Plus, the one who is least in love, is the more powerful in the relationship.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 03, 2006, 06:33:15 AM
i ws gonna make a wilderian joke..buuut...i'm 2 sick...
wilderian...anal...'buut' ..get it :P

Yes, I get the Oscar joke. After you, I'm his next biggest fan.  :)

By the way, beautiful sonnet. Damn thou...  :'(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 03, 2006, 06:36:14 AM
I am..
Never been in love, there have been times, but due to the lack of character in the woman, it never panned out. Plus, the one who is least in love, is the more powerful in the relationship.

No... but yes? Why choose someone with a lack of character? And does there really have to be power in a relationship? I'm curious today.  :)

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Parker on December 03, 2006, 07:34:37 AM
No... but yes? Why choose someone with a lack of character? And does there really have to be power in a relationship? I'm curious today.  :)



No, meaning, it wasn't the full on love..I felt it coming...but, never happened. Either due to her personality traits (lack of character) or mine.  Lack of character to me, means someone who flip flops or doesn't stand by their word. I've ome to find out, that a lot of youg women today, say one thing, but do another. You know, the "I wouldn't...", or the "Girrrrl, you know...." . Which is frustrating to me, because my character is the one thing that I can count on. So when a woman reveals herself to be shysty, due to the fact that one can see from the jump who I am, and what I'm about (I've learned to not give a woman what she asks for-esp. "honesty" ), that "feeling" evaporates like water on a hot brick.

I think it not so much as me choosing someone who lacks character (many of the women I have dated, have approached  me), but more so in the physical traits and personality traits of the woman and me. I am a giver, a straight-arrow. I have been told one to many times that I would "make a good husband". The women tend to be those who either need structure in their lives, or those "bad girls". I attract the opposite of what I am, and now I am resigned to live with that fact. Those that need structure tend to put on a front like they are are grounded individuals, but as time wears on, you find out that the woman is really a fallen angel,
and you see the reasons why.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 03, 2006, 07:35:50 AM
sonnet 116..and i truly believe this


Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.








..everytime i read this sonnet..i get a lump in my throat...


it makes me cry.  ta tox.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 03, 2006, 09:01:02 AM
No, meaning, it wasn't the full on love..I felt it coming...but, never happened. Either due to her personality traits (lack of character) or mine.  Lack of character to me, means someone who flip flops or doesn't stand by their word. I've ome to find out, that a lot of youg women today, say one thing, but do another. You know, the "I wouldn't...", or the "Girrrrl, you know...." . Which is frustrating to me, because my character is the one thing that I can count on. So when a woman reveals herself to be shysty, due to the fact that one can see from the jump who I am, and what I'm about (I've learned to not give a woman what she asks for-esp. "honesty" ), that "feeling" evaporates like water on a hot brick.

I think it not so much as me choosing someone who lacks character (many of the women I have dated, have approached  me), but more so in the physical traits and personality traits of the woman and me. I am a giver, a straight-arrow. I have been told one to many times that I would "make a good husband". The women tend to be those who either need structure in their lives, or those "bad girls". I attract the opposite of what I am, and now I am resigned to live with that fact. Those that need structure tend to put on a front like they are are grounded individuals, but as time wears on, you find out that the woman is really a fallen angel,
and you see the reasons why.


I understand your ways, Venom.

I think you've given up on love and finding a good woman in general and that's a shame.

The best strategy is to be real and stay straight because that is who you are and at the very least you can say that you are who you appear to be.

People reveal themselves to be what they are over time and through consistent patterns.

Give a woman enough rope to hang herself, enough time to show that she is the type of quality woman you deserve or just another scandalous type who is hoping to drag you down in the gutter.

Keep yourself wide open, but remember to keep it real and honest.

A woman can never go back and say you wronged her if you are honest.


DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 03, 2006, 09:33:20 AM
the one who is least in love, is the more powerful in the relationship.

I reckon that it's the other way around.
x
x
x
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Jodi on December 03, 2006, 12:24:35 PM
As soon as you start to figure out who has more power in a relationship, the relationship is doomed.

I see a relationship like birds in flight.  Everyone takes his or her turn as the leader.  One person's strength is another's weakness and vice versa.  If you insist on control in certain areas, then you are asking for trouble.  And if you allow domination, then you too are asking for difficulties.  I'm not talking sex here.  I'm talking the relationship itself.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: xxxLinda on December 03, 2006, 12:28:24 PM
I can't count on my fingers any more.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 03, 2006, 12:50:29 PM
As soon as you start to figure out who has more power in a relationship, the relationship is doomed.

I see a relationship like birds in flight.  Everyone takes his or her turn as the leader.  One person's strength is another's weakness and vice versa.  If you insist on control in certain areas, then you are asking for trouble.  And if you allow domination, then you too are asking for difficulties.  I'm not talking sex here.  I'm talking the relationship itself.

I would say that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Parker on December 03, 2006, 03:58:58 PM
As soon as you start to figure out who has more power in a relationship, the relationship is doomed.

I see a relationship like birds in flight.  Everyone takes his or her turn as the leader.  One person's strength is another's weakness and vice versa.  If you insist on control in certain areas, then you are asking for trouble.  And if you allow domination, then you too are asking for difficulties.  I'm not talking sex here.  I'm talking the relationship itself.

Not that I figure out who has the most power. Never that simple, nor do I wish to dominate a woman within the relationship. I used to be a "follow the river" type of person (in college). And as a woman , I think you 'd probably find it a turn off if a man can not and does not define himself within the relationship. Being, "a straight arrow" type of person, I tended to cater to the woman ( a good and a bad thing), plus I had to watch to make sure I was not being taken advantage of (nice guys can surely be taken for a ride ;)).

I believe in that "50/50 Love" that Teddy P sings about. But realistically it is 70/30, 60/40. As you talk about strengths and weaknesses, I have tried making my weaknesses my strengths and kept my strengths, making myself good all around. But it doesn't play out like that when, lets say one is a better cook than the woman (who can't cook), one is more disciplined with money than the woman, and one has more interests and knowledge in many different areas than the woman, even though she might have a Masters or is an Attorney.

 

I think you've given up on love and finding a good woman in general and that's a shame.


I heard this once, You know where the good women are? They are in a relationship with a bad man.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 03, 2006, 05:25:47 PM
I heard this once, You know where the good women are? They are in a relationship with a bad man.

You're too nice.

Less Parker, More Venom...

Don't be an asshole, but there is a balance.

Most women want a nice guy with badboy tendencies....

A woman wants a guy who has the capacity to be thuggish when it's appropriate, as long as you treat her nice.



DIV

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Parker on December 04, 2006, 04:40:06 AM
You're too nice.

Too, true. My friend, too true.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: freespirit on December 04, 2006, 10:39:32 AM
Being "in love" is a waist of time. Contra productive. Useless.

The last lady I had some kind of relationship with said that she couldn't figure me out. Actually, what she meant is I cannot change you. Well, why should you? It was nice when it lasted.

 My freedom still is very important to me. Don't care so much for relationships.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 04, 2006, 11:23:17 AM
As soon as you start to figure out who has more power in a relationship, the relationship is doomed.




see the problem with me is i let the other person take charge if they wanna. I see it as a security thing...i'm secure enough in my masculinity and my self (read ..looks character .etc) that i'm always very happy go lucky. Which puts me in a situation where i need a woman secure enough herself that she understands and apreciates my laid back attitude and does not miatake it as me being a push over.

soo many times woman do just that and then are susprised when i end it (the look on their faces being " but i thought i ws in charge")...for a woman who plays hierarchy games is insecure and insecurity is the biggest turnoff.

I'm aggreeing with ya here jodes! :)



i've had women tell me " juni..you r just too nice" and i've replied " honey...you r just too insecure"   ...now i'll put this in bold " only insecure women mistake an asshole as alpha male behaviour....a truly secure man should not sccumb to this and all of a sudden start being an asshole and deviating from his normal behaviour , just to get those women...in doing so he will lose his pride...and at least to me..my pride is worth much more..even so than love"
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 04, 2006, 03:01:08 PM

see the problem with me is i let the other person take charge if they wanna. I see it as a security thing...i'm secure enough in my masculinity and my self (read ..looks character .etc) that i'm always very happy go lucky. Which puts me in a situation where i need a woman secure enough herself that she understands and apreciates my laid back attitude and does not miatake it as me being a push over.

soo many times woman do just that and then are susprised when i end it (the look on their faces being " but i thought i ws in charge")...for a woman who plays hierarchy games is insecure and insecurity is the biggest turnoff.

I'm aggreeing with ya here jodes! :)



i've had women tell me " juni..you r just too nice" and i've replied " honey...you r just too insecure"   ...now i'll put this in bold " only insecure women mistake an asshole as alpha male behaviour....a truly secure man should not sccumb to this and all of a sudden start being an asshole and deviating from his normal behaviour , just to get those women...in doing so he will lose his pride...and at least to me..my pride is worth much more..even so than love"

Let's face it, lil' Junaids....

You're too advanced for most women as it pertains to your security in your masculinity.

Most women aren't ready for someone like you until they're in their 30's.

Honestly, many men don't reach your stage of enlightenment until they're too old to care...

I'm striking a balance, because while I am secure in who I am, there are some situations that demand alpha male/thuggish-type behaviour and I won't back down from those either.

I've been around too long and seen too much to believe that how other people perceive me won't factor in, and in those instances there is no way I can be laidback and easygoing.

Time and place......and situation.

"Love is stronger than pride" - Sade



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 05:35:04 PM
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Let's face it, lil' Junaids....

You're too advanced for most women as it pertains to your security in your masculinity.

most..??? i'm seriously considering going back to my (g)olden days where i did nothing but date russian and eastern block women...sorry to say it but American women up untill now have been a big dissapointment :-\    ( some amreekan republican woman is gona take this personaly...which is EXACTLY why i'm sick of yall >:(  )

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Most women aren't ready for someone like you until they're in their 30's.

and i'm not willing to date a woman in her 30s seriously...too much emotional and physical mileage for me (  the 'lose' women here will be indignant at this point and try and chime in telling me i have a small penis or smething similar or something... :-\   )

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Honestly, many men don't reach your stage of enlightenment until they're too old to care...


dood...if u were a girl ..i'd totally date ya!   ( yes i've been watching waaayyyy 2 much scrubs...Dr Cox is like my hero!...i'm totally aware of how gay that sounds...)

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I'm striking a balance, because while I am secure in who I am, there are some situations that demand alpha male/thuggish-type behaviour and I won't back down from those either.



you r nAaturally an ass sometimes...its not a deviation from norm behaviour...which is fine...

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I've been around too long and seen too much to believe that how other people perceive me won't factor in, and in those instances there is no way I can be laidback and easygoing.


the only people i do give a flying f**k about are the ones that do factor in about my preception of myself...so i agree with ya there bro!





the only woman i'll lower  my pride for is one...well you know the drill...





Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 05:36:24 PM
oo..btw...dont for a second think i'm not aware that as much as the wmen have been chiming in on this thread...NOT ONE responded to my previous post...


and if they do now..it wont count.. :-\  ..for obvious reasons..
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 05, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
But you were having a convo with another guy...  :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 05:44:54 PM
But you were having a convo with another guy...  :-\


o good lord..dont tell me u r homophobic FOR me? :-\

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 05, 2006, 05:53:03 PM

o good lord..dont tell me u r homophobic FOR me? :-\



Lol...d'ja NO! It's just you were speaking man to man.  ;) We women know our place.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Original Sin on December 05, 2006, 05:57:15 PM
Lol...d'ja NO! It's just you were speaking man to man.  ;) We women know our place.

We have a place?
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Deedee on December 05, 2006, 06:00:59 PM
We have a place?

Yes, everywhere outside of the space where men talk man to man. You like to be there?
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 06:02:23 PM
Lol...d'ja NO! It's just you were speaking man to man.  ;) We women know our place.


dammit woman...i'm sick and i'm kinda sorta drunk..i'm allowed bitter... >:(


...frick..

now u took the whole mood away >:(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 06:03:28 PM
We have a place?


i'm like brown and from pakistan originally...



...sooo ...


...no ya dont! ;D





i win!





now gimme a frickin cookie >:(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 05, 2006, 06:07:23 PM
Stop trying to type upside down monkey.


the women allow u on here....?

you r like a white dood with the self confidence of a really ghetto black dood... :-\



see women r gonna giggle reading this cause i'm totally right!
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Rimbaud on December 05, 2006, 09:27:14 PM
Twice (maybe three time but I'm positive about two of them). & I don't think I've ever stopped loving (or caring about) either of them. I married one of them though.
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 05, 2006, 10:10:19 PM
most..??? i'm seriously considering going back to my (g)olden days where i did nothing but date russian and eastern block women...sorry to say it but American women up untill now have been a big dissapointment :-\    ( some amreekan republican woman is gona take this personaly...which is EXACTLY why i'm sick of yall >:(  )

I definitely feel you on this, Junaids....

The one girl I did date from Europe was a German immigrant and she was not only intelligent but didn't play all the games.

Unfortunately, she had kids, and that doomed the relationship.

But, I know where you're coming from, bro.

I'm just not up for the games.......and I don't chase the cat.

and i'm not willing to date a woman in her 30s seriously...too much emotional and physical mileage for me (  the 'lose' women here will be indignant at this point and try and chime in telling me i have a small penis or smething similar or something... :-\   )

Damn.....that cut-off is etched in stone, then?

I go five year either way......but would make an exception if there is a real connection. 

I think there's a distinct possibility of meeting a woman in her mid-thirties sans baggage.

Remember, Junaid, not all women are the type to "need" to be in a relationship.

Some are picky like you are.

you r nAaturally an ass sometimes...its not a deviation from norm behaviour...which is fine...the only people i do give a flying f**k about are the ones that do factor in about my preception of myself...so i agree with ya there bro!

I can see how I can be perceived as an ass...

I'm definitely not user-friendly, that's for sure.

Then again, I'm not out to be everyone's friend, either.

I'm kind of particular about who I let in.....

Stop trying to type upside down monkey.

We're all monkeys, alexxx....

Just that some are darker complected than others....

We're all from the same genetic stock.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: freespirit on December 06, 2006, 10:08:55 AM
and i'm not willing to date a woman in her 30s seriously...too much emotional and physical mileage for me

Exactly! These 30 something women need to work on themselves, clean their minds and move on with their lives.

Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 06, 2006, 11:53:04 AM
Yo been in da hood?


i live in the most populated black county in the US..PG county MD.....soo ummm yeah...

but ya forget..i'm from karachi pakistan...karachi makes the hood look like a childcare clinic! :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 06, 2006, 11:56:37 AM

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I definitely feel you on this, Junaids....

The one girl I did date from Europe was a German immigrant and she was not only intelligent but didn't play all the games.


they dont have the 'golden pussy' complex.....

i have a vagina...it brings pleasure to you..hense it MUST be made of gold! ::)  ..soo i'm restricting myself to eastern europe lol..sindhi women r out also...too demanding..


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Damn.....that cut-off is etched in stone, then?


for now..yeah..



Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2006, 03:39:52 PM

i live in the most populated black county in the US..PG county MD.....soo ummm yeah...

HA, HA

Not quite the hood yet. Ft. Washington an other spots are nice. Now Southern DC (SE, SW) and Baltimore (sheesh)----HOOD
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 06, 2006, 07:51:47 PM

they dont have the 'golden pussy' complex.....

i have a vagina...it brings pleasure to you..hense it MUST be made of gold! ::)  ..soo i'm restricting myself to eastern europe lol..sindhi women r out also...too demanding..

for now..yeah..

You've been talking with Jake lately, haven't you?

He's the one preaching that "golden pussy" complex, and I do think he's right.

I think it's mainly a by-product of modern relationships.

Men who are in it strictly for sex have jaded women to the point where they've gotten the same way materialistically, to the point where they ration sex or place an intrinsic value on themselves......

In the end, everyone loses and that's unfortunate.

......and the good females who don't have this attitude are taken advantage of by players.

Being a player is easy, it's living with yourself and the consequences of your actions that is hard.

I can't be that.



DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 06, 2006, 09:07:37 PM
HA, HA

Not quite the hood yet. Ft. Washington an other spots are nice. Now Southern DC (SE, SW) and Baltimore (sheesh)----HOOD

i used to buy my coke from SE DC back in the day... :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 06, 2006, 09:08:09 PM
Yeah I am sure India is in the states....... ::)

for a white dood..you try way too hard 2 be white.. :-\
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 06, 2006, 09:09:26 PM
You've been talking with Jake lately, haven't you?

He's the one preaching that "golden pussy" complex, and I do think he's right.

I think it's mainly a by-product of modern relationships.

Men who are in it strictly for sex have jaded women to the point where they've gotten the same way materialistically, to the point where they ration sex or place an intrinsic value on themselves......

In the end, everyone loses and that's unfortunate.

......and the good females who don't have this attitude are taken advantage of by players.

Being a player is easy, it's living with yourself and the consequences of your actions that is hard.

I can't be that.



DIV

haven't talked to jake in a while..the bastard hasnt called me nor do i have his new # >:(


Jake ..if ya read this..fix it >:(
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: DIVISION on December 07, 2006, 04:06:01 PM
haven't talked to jake in a while..the bastard hasnt called me nor do i have his new # >:(


Jake ..if ya read this..fix it >:(

I'll get his number........talked to him via PM yesterday.


DIV
Title: Re: how many times have ya been in love...?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 10, 2006, 06:55:23 PM
I'll get his number........talked to him via PM yesterday.


DIV

i ws soo looking forward to that trip..but i understand..what he's doing is tough mate...

now dont go mentioning it on here..he once told me he does notwant people knowing...