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(http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/56575.jpg)
(http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/56576.jpg) Yuri Vlasov in his 70's.
http://kp.ru/daily/23629/47967/
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(http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/56575.jpg)
(http://kp.ru/upimg/photo/56576.jpg) Yuri Vlasov in his 70's.
http://kp.ru/daily/23629/47967/
Good to know that Arnie has Idols ;)
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a russian bodybuilding legend..should have worked his legs more tho
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In his 70's Yuri claims he lifts 185 kgs/407lbs. I guess its overhead.
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good theory i will have to ask mr vlasov next time i perform for him on webcam.
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Good to know that Arnie has Idols ;)
When Ahnold was 13 y.o he got aquainted with Vlasov in Vena. Ahnold was eager to pick up lifting but by the tip of Mr. Vlasov was told to pick up debilbolding instead as by the look the Ahnold was not genetically gifted to lifting these heavy ass weights.
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i wonder if anuld had a freezer to store mr vlasovs cum in?
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I thought Arnold's idol was Reg Park?
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yes he has said so many times. he even visited mr park down in south africa.
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I thought Arnold's idol was Reg Park?
It's when Ahnold started debilbolding.
BTW Vlasov and Arnold armwrestled when the a the Ahnold was in Moscow filming in RED HEAT. Arnold lost.
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It's when Ahnold started debilbolding.
BTW Vlasov and Arnold armwrestled when the a the Ahnold was in Moscow filming in RED HEAT. Arnold lost.
>:(
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>:(
debilbolding is not functional, truth hurts man ;)
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I thought Arnold's idol was Reg Park?
How can someone like Reg Park be an idol to someone? Yuri Vlasov was equally compared to the likes of Yuri Gagarin and there an unknown someone named Reg Park. Reg can be a good man but be an idol? Only to close loved ones, doubt it. Don't believe the media and the a the hollywood you are so naive).
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It's good to know there are other russian man my size and strength.
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It's good to know there are other russian man my size and strength.
Pripuh?
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Pripuh?
Alexxx, nice to meet you.
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Alexxx, nice to meet you.
Opupel?
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Opupel?
Alexxxx
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BTW BEFORE THE GUY THE FAMOUS DEBILBOLDER ARNOLD SH ( CAN'T SPELL FURTHER ) EVER WENT FOR THE GOVERNOR CHAIR, IN 1996 YURI VLASOV WENT FOR THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT CHAIR.
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BTW BEFORE THE GUY THE FAMOUS DEBILBOLDER ARNOLD SH ( CAN'T SPELL FURTHER ) EVER WENT FOR THE GOVERNOR CHAIR, IN 1996 YURI VLASOV WENT FOR THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT CHAIR.
Pretty cool did the guy ever achieve anything in bodybuilding/weightlifting/politics?
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BTW BEFORE THE GUY THE FAMOUS DEBILBOLDER ARNOLD SH ( CAN'T SPELL FURTHER ) EVER WENT FOR THE GOVERNOR CHAIR, IN 1996 YURI VLASOV WENT FOR THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT CHAIR.
schwarzenegger
Hope this helps :D
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Pretty cool did the guy ever achieve anything in bodybuilding/weightlifting/politics?
If you call urself russian open the focking link and read. I didn't know you were that dumb alexxx.
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If you call urself russian open the focking link and read. I didn't know you were that dumb alexxx.
So are you mad that I asked about your love partner's occupation, tavarish?
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So are you mad that I asked about your love partner's occupation, tavarish?
Idi na hui
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Idi na hui
Idi na divan sas svoim drugam!
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Idi na divan sas svoim drugam!
shaber tebiya zhdeot bezhrebetnik otsosniy, a poka obshaisya sam s soboy na lomonom russkom shpak zapomoiniy
I quit
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shaber tebiya zhdeot bezhrebetnik otsosniy, a poka obshaisya sam s soboy na lomonom russkom shpak zapomoiniy
I quit
At the rate you are going you would do a 3rd grade russian schooler proud. 8)
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How can someone like Reg Park be an idol to someone? Yuri Vlasov was equally compared to the likes of Yuri Gagarin and there an unknown someone named Reg Park. Reg can be a good man but be an idol? Only to close loved ones, doubt it. Don't believe the media and the a the hollywood you are so naive).
excuse me, your lack of knowledge of bodybuilding history is showing. to a European, in the 1950s and 1960s, Reg Park (http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=reg+park&g=M) was the biggest thing in bodybuilding, the Arnold of his day. He was even a big thing in the US. And besides being the top bodybuilder, he was a successful publisher and movie star (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0661918/).
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excuse me, your lack of knowledge of bodybuilding history is showing. to a European, in the 1950s and 1960s, Reg Park (http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=reg+park&g=M) was the biggest thing in bodybuilding, the Arnold of his day. He was even a big thing in the US. And besides being the top bodybuilder, he was a successful publisher.
Reg Park was decent at best!
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excuse me, your lack of knowledge of bodybuilding history is showing. to a European, in the 1950s and 1960s, Reg Park was the biggest thing in bodybuilding, the Arnold of his day. He was even a big thing in the US. And besides being the top bodybuilder, he was a successful publisher.
That's great.
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Yuri Vlasov was a world champion Olympic Lifter, he won the Olympic Gold in 1960 and Silver in 1964. I'm not surprised if he beat Arnold in arm wrestling.
Park was probably one of the greatest drug-free bodybuilders of all time.
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Yuri Vlasov was a world champion Olympic Lifter, he won the Olympic Gold in 1960 and Silver in 1964. I'm not surprised if he beat Arnold in arm wrestling.
Park was probably one of the greatest drug-free bodybuilders of all time.
OF course he was setting the world reckords right?
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excuse me, your lack of knowledge of bodybuilding history is showing. to a European, in the 1950s and 1960s, Reg Park (http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=reg+park&g=M) was the biggest thing in bodybuilding, the Arnold of his day. He was even a big thing in the US. And besides being the top bodybuilder, he was a successful publisher and movie star (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0661918/).
(http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~dgusev/Russian/yv1.gif)
Yuri Petrovich Vlasov was born in 1935. He was the superheavyweight world champ in weight-lifting (1959, 1961, 1962, 1963), Olympic superheavyweight champ (1960), silver medalist (1964). He set many weight-lifting records and was nicknamed "the strongest man on Earth". Yuri Vlasov was young Arnold Schwarzenegger's role model.
Graduate of the Zhukovsky Air-Force Engineering Academy (1959), Yuri Vlasov became a writer. Books: "Overcome Yourself" (1964), "White Moment" (1972), "Special Region of China" (1973), "Salty Joys" (1976), "Justice of Force" (1989), "Yenan Connection" (1989), "Fiery Cross" (1992), etc.
What Mr Reg Park actually has published?
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brutal 15 inch arms.
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(http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~dgusev/Russian/yv1.gif)
Yuri Petrovich Vlasov was born in 1935. He was the superheavyweight world champ in weight-lifting (1959, 1961, 1962, 1963), Olympic superheavyweight champ (1960), silver medalist (1964). He set many weight-lifting records and was nicknamed "the strongest man on Earth". Yuri Vlasov was young Arnold Schwarzenegger's role model.
Graduate of the Zhukovsky Air-Force Engineering Academy (1959), Yuri Vlasov became a writer. Books: "Overcome Yourself" (1964), "White Moment" (1972), "Special Region of China" (1973), "Salty Joys" (1976), "Justice of Force" (1989), "Yenan Connection" (1989), "Fiery Cross" (1992), etc.
What Mr Reg Park actually has published?
You can actually buy the movie version of "Salty Joys" (1976) in the back room of most video stores. You can get it shipped to you at home as well, indiscrete labeling of course.
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Yuri Petrovich Vlasov was born in 1935. He was the superheavyweight world champ in weight-lifting
Yuri was one of the best Olympic style weightlifter of his time. Park was the best bodybuilder of his time. Arnold was never a competitive weightlifter (he was the junior national champion in Curling, though).
What Mr Reg Park actually has published?
the bodybuilding mag Reg Park Journal (http://musclememory.com/mags.php?rpj)
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Park was probably one of the greatest drug-free bodybuilders of all time.
you have no evidence of that
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you have no evidence of that
Yes, I do. But I've gone over this a million times and I'm about as tired of it as I can get. I don't mean to be trite, but I always seem to get drawn into this conversation over and over. If you search around you'll find posts I've made on several boards (including this one IIRC) about this.
By the way, your name is very familiar to me. We've definitely "rubbed shoulders" before. Were you on the old Round Table several years ago?
I agree, this is comparing apples to oranges. Vlasov was one of the strongest men who ever lived. He ushered in the Soviet dominance of heavyweight Olympic Weightlifting (he was then surpassed by Leonid Zhabotinsky and then Vasili Alexeyev). Schwarzenegger and Park were two of the greatest, most dominant bodybuilders of their eras (and all-time). Apples and oranges.
Park also published a magazine called "Mr. Universe" in the early-50s, but it evolved into The Reg Park Journal of Physical Culture and then just The Reg Park Journal (which eventually got linked with Man's World). He also published several booklets.
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By the way, your name is very familiar to me. We've definitely "rubbed shoulders" before. Were you on the old Round Table several years ago?
no. misc.fitness.weight, and of course musclememory.com
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misc.fitness.weight
Oh man, that must have been awhile ago! I actually forgot about that place. Is it still going?
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Oh man, that must have been awhile ago! I actually forgot about that place. Is it still going?
Yes, but it is a shell of its former self.
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a russian bodybuilding legend..should have worked his legs more tho
No, as a matter of fact, the Soviet Union’s Yuri Vlasov had absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding and was strictly an Olympic weightlifter! As a matter of fact, Vlasov’s leg development was absolutely massive(!) and he possessed tremendous core body strength and development (lower back/glutes/hips/thighs). On the contrary, relative to his lower body development, Vlasov’s upper body development was relatively slender.
Peary Rader once commented in Iron Man Lifting News…"upon seeing Vlasov’s upper body, one wonders where he gets his tremendous strength, until you see his massive leg development" (words to the effect)!
In his 70's Yuri claims he lifts 185 kgs/407lbs. I guess its overhead.
While I am sure you guys are very knowledgeable on other aspects of the broad field of weight-training (e.g. BB and powerlifting), it is unfortunate that you guys are not knowledgeable of the great Yuri Vasov. Vlasov totally dominated international Olympic heavyweight (now superheavyweight) weightlifting from 1959 through 1964. During that time, he set no less than 34 world Olympic weightlifting records!!
The following website chronicles a history of Vlasov’s weightlifting records. In those days, there were three (3) Olympic lifts (of course, all overhead lifts)…the two hand Olympic press, the two-hand snatch, and the two-hand clean and jerk…
http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/l_athleteResult.asp?a_id=290
From a review of these world records, you can see why Vlasov was a “hero”/role model to fans/admirers of Olympic weightlifting like Arnold and legions of aspiring Olympic weightlifters of that era (early 1960’s)!
While Paul Anderson was stronger than Vlasov, sadly, Anderson had turned professional in 1957 and, as a result, in those days (1950’s-1960’s) professionals were not allowed (inelgible) to compete in Olympic weightlifting, which was designated as an “amateur-only” competition.
Vlasov was also a practicing engineer and was the flag bearer for the Soviet Union’s Olympic team at the 1960 Olympics in Rome.
In the 1964 Olympic heavyweight (now superheavyweight) weightlifting competition, Vlasov was an absolute “sure thing” to win the gold medal a second time at Tokyo...but, he was shockingly “psyched-out”/”faked-out” by fellow countryman Leonid Zhabotinsky in one of the greatest “con jobs” and upsets in the history of the Olympic Games!
Briefly, it was a combination of Zhabotinsky faking an injured back in his next to his last clean and jerk attempt, hobbling off of the platform in apparent great pain, conceding the championship to Vlasov and even shaking his hand and congratulating him as the winner of the gold medal. But, Zhabotinsky still had a remaining third attempt in the clean and jerk left! And, Vlasov's overconfidence/arrogance...this combination apparently cost him the gold medal at Tokyo!
Vlasov, in his overconfidence, had allowed the weight on the bar to move up to 479 lbs. (a world record at the time). Believing that Zhabotinsky was injured and finished in the competition, Vlasov cleaned the world record poundage of 479, but did not go all-out in the jerk and missed the lift. This was on Vlasov’s third and final attempt and he was finished in the competiton.
All of a sudden, Zhabotinsky jumps up, his apparent injured back “miraculously healed”, and comes out and lifts the world record 479 lbs., in his remaining lone third attempt, to win the competition and “steal” the Olympic world heavyweight/superheavyweight gold medal/title from Vlasov!
Afterward, it is said that Vaslov threw his silver medal out a window and accused Zhabotinsky of poor sportsmanship with his deception!
Vlasov, after Olympic pressing a world record 435 lbs. and snatching a world record 380 lbs. (unfortunately on an extra 4th attempt that didn’t count in the competition!), had a full 11 lb. lead over Zhabotinsky going into the clean and jerk. Vlasov was even the 'lighter man", so if Zhabotinsky was to win he had to not only make up this 11 lb. arrears, but lift an additional 5 lbs. to make up for his heavier bodyweight to actually win the competition!
At the time, Vlasov held the world record in the clean and jerk at approx. 475 lbs. and could easily have taken this weight, or a slightly lesser weight, and thus have forced Zhabotinsky to take an “impossible” poundage (e.g. 486 lbs.) in an apparent vain effort to make up the 16 lbs. he needed for victory.
But, in Vlasov’s overconfidence (arrogance?) he jumped from a success with approx. 462 lbs. all the way up to the world record weight of 479 lbs.??! Thinking he had already won the gold medal as the result of Zhabotinsky’s deception/concession, Vlasov just did not give the 479 an all-out effort and it cost him the gold medal!!
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Very nice post Richard2004,
...for the bodybuilding fans I have to add that Vlasov was suprisingly muscular (i.e. lean) for a heavyweight/superheavyweight. Granted he didn't have the big arms and upper body musculature of the modern drug-bloated bodybuilder, but, as you say, his quads and posterior chain were massive. Now, Zhabotinsky was a bona-fide monster in the "strongman" sense.
Yuri Vlasov....
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Yvlas.jpg)
Leonid Zhabotinsky...
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Zhabo.jpg)
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Very nice post Richard2004,
...for the bodybuilding fans I have to add that Vlasov was suprisingly muscular (i.e. lean) for a heavyweight/superheavyweight. Granted he didn't have the big arms and upper body musculature of the modern drug-bloated bodybuilder, but, as you say, his quads and posterior chain were massive. Now, Zhabotinsky was a bona-fide monster in the "strongman" sense.
Yuri Vlasov....
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Yvlas.jpg)
Leonid Zhabotinsky...
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Zhabo.jpg)
WOW he must get all the power from the legs!
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Very nice post Richard2004,
...for the bodybuilding fans I have to add that Vlasov was suprisingly muscular (i.e. lean) for a heavyweight/superheavyweight. Granted he didn't have the big arms and upper body musculature of the modern drug-bloated bodybuilder, but, as you say, his quads and posterior chain were massive. Now, Zhabotinsky was a bona-fide monster in the "strongman" sense.
Yuri Vlasov....
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Yvlas.jpg)
Leonid Zhabotinsky...
(http://www.engr.mun.ca/~butt/index_files/Zhabo.jpg)
Casey, thanks for the great pics. of Vlasov and "Zhabo"...as I had searched the web for some but came up "empty-handed".
I have several good pics. in old issues of Iron Man Lifting News and Strength and Health of both Vlasov and Zhabo...but need to get a scanner/digital camera to post them.
As I recall, like you said "Zhabo" was a "monster' and at a height of approx. 6'-6" weighed some 360 lbs. and Vlasov (by comparison), by the '64 Tokyo Olympics weighed about 290-300 lbs. at about 6'-2".
Vlasov was the first heavyweight/superheavyweight (with the possible exception of the much lighter John Davis) to have "washboard abs", and, as you stated had a relatively lean and muscular appearance, compared to other "superheavys" of that era (e.g. Anderson, Hepburn, Selvetti, Medvedyev...even Zhabo, and later, Alexeev, all who had large stomachs with considerable adipose tissue).
As you may know, Vlasov was an "intellectual" and was a member of Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev's "inner circle". Khrushchev fell from power just as the '64 Tokyo Summer Olympics were in progress.
Vlasov was/is highly intelligent and went on to become very active in Soviet/Russian politics and even wrote some books. I understand he never spoke with "Zhabo" after his incident of "deception". I believe Vlasov wrote about his experience at the '64 Olympics and Zhabo's "poor sportsmanship"...I would love to read it, someday!
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hahahaha, "posterior chain".
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man, now that's a fu*kin' shape
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hahahahaha, look at those three dorks.
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hahahahaha, look at those three dorks.
hahaha they all put you to shame!
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hahaha they all put you to shame!
hahahaha, you're just sticking up for them because two of them are skinny Russian geeks like you.
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hahahaha, you're just sticking up for them because two of them are skinny Russian geeks like you.
haha and you must be the one that came in third!
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hahahahaha, look at those three dorks.
Gee gollies Squadfather, methinks that the 479 lbs. these mighty MEN lifted OVERHEAD, 42 looong years ago, would be a HEAVY deadlift for you TODAY, particularly w/o a deadlift suit!
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Gee gollies Squadfather, methinks that the 479 lbs. these mighty MEN lifted OVERHEAD, 42 looong years ago, would be a HEAVY deadlift for you TODAY, particularly w/o a deadlift suit!
hahahaha, i don't give a shit if they clean and jerked a car, they still look like geeks who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse.
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Richard, there's a possibility that I might be visiting Kiev in the next few months. If I get a chance I'll see if I can get Vlasov's book(s). I saw a book about gardening by Alexeev the last time I was there (yes, that Alexeev).
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irongame.com had a few vidsw of yuri benching 400lbs plus for reps and squatting 400 for reps too i think ass to grass.
at 260plus lbs he could do a true 1arm chins for reps. also read about Yuri he is an interesting character
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hahahaha, i don't give a shit if they clean and jerked a car, they still look like geeks who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse.
Yeah, your right Squadfather!
Us former/current guys with an Olympic weightlifting background keep forgettin' that to a lot of you BBers it is more important what your body LOOKS like rather than what you can DO with your body...or, the body's health...or, it's longevity!
And, I also keep forgetting that the lean, muscular, Olympic weightlifters' ATHLETIC physiques with their tremendous developed CORE body strength (and whose size is controlled by several weight classes and RIGOROUS drug-testing!) that you call "geeks" actually look like NORMAL human beings.
As a result, these magnificent Olympic weightlifting ATHLETES were/are "light-years removed" from the bald-headed, drug-bloated, "dead-men-walking", pro. IFBB BB pharmaceutical FREAKS that you worship/admire...and which stagger around on a BB stage competing in their "sport"...what is this "sport" called...a "waddling contest"!??
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Richard, there's a possibility that I might be visiting Kiev in the next few months. If I get a chance I'll see if I can get Vlasov's book(s). I saw a book about gardening by Alexeev the last time I was there (yes, that Alexeev).
Casey, I would love to get a copy of any one of Vlasov's book(s). I believe some have been translated to English.
I saw one advertised on eBay some months back along with a mag. article written by Vlasov on his lifting career and really REGRET not purchasing it/them at the time.
Yes, I too recall reading that one of the GREAT Vasili Alexeev's hobbies was gardening!?
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irongame.com had a few vidsw of yuri benching 400lbs plus for reps and squatting 400 for reps too i think ass to grass.
at 260plus lbs he could do a true 1arm chins for reps. also read about Yuri he is an interesting character
Like John Davis, Norbert Schemansky and Dave Ashman, Yuri Vlasov had a relatively trim athletic physique for a heavyweight/superheavyweight Olympic weightlifter of that era.
These trim, athletic, physiques were great role models to aspiring Olympic weightlifters (and BBers interested in athletic strength) of that era and were in stark contrast to the large-waisted physiques of other Olympic heavyweights/superheavyweights of that era (e.g. Anderson, Hepburn, Bradford, and Medvedyev).
I recall reading articles written by (and about) Vlasov's training routines, in the early 60's, where he incorporated extensive abdominal exercises and running into his workouts...quite a novel approach for a heavyweight/superheavyweight Olympic weightlifter in those days!!
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at 260plus lbs he could do a true 1arm chins for reps. also read about Yuri he is an interesting character
Thats very impressing. The feat that I doubt Jay Cutler would ever do.