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Title: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: AVBG on February 03, 2007, 03:46:58 PM
Let's keep this positive with no bashing of our "enhanced" brothers/sisters.


1. A cheaper supplement bill

2. Being able to take some time off training without loss of size/strength

Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: alexxx on February 03, 2007, 03:52:21 PM
3. Having all the girls drool at you.

4. Knowing you did it all on your own from hard work.

5. Knowing you won't run out of juice with the ladies.

6. Staying healthy.

7. Better shape and symmetry.

8. Builds a good attitude and healthy mind.

9. No need for posedowns in thongs.

10. Strength unlimited.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on February 04, 2007, 02:35:23 AM
14. Making gains is very satisfying knowing it was achieved through hard work and not by taking 'enhancers' where anyone would grow.

15. Having a small gut (most of the time  ;D)

16. Still being able to fit in and look 'normal' with clothes on.

17.  Knowing that by being a nattie I am extending my life rather than shortening it by taking the other route.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2007, 09:53:12 AM
18. Not having to bullshit your friends or family about your sudden gains.

19. The ability and inclination to cross train.

20. Not go through depression when out of sups

21. No back acne.

22. No non genetic early on set male baldness.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Tier on February 04, 2007, 11:51:21 PM
legal , healthy , cheap
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: MCWAY on February 05, 2007, 08:45:28 AM
NO NEEDLES!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Baby_Hercules on February 05, 2007, 09:58:30 AM
I don't have to worry about going to jail for buying/possessing illegal substances. I don't have to worry about losing my teaching credentials for getting arrested on a drug charge. When my students ask me if I took drugs to get the physique I have, I don't have to lie.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2007, 10:00:31 AM
I don't have to worry about going to jail for buying/possessing illegal substances. I don't have to worry about losing my teaching credentials for getting arrested on a drug charge. When my students ask me if I took drugs to get the physique I have, I don't have to lie.

welcome to the thread B. Herc.  :D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Baby_Hercules on February 05, 2007, 10:03:00 AM
welcome to the thread B. Herc.  :D
Thanks, its a good thread.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Thanks, its a good thread.

please share with us some of your experience in nattie training.. give some of our less experience trainers some of your insite to what makes a successful nattie competitive bb'er.

Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Option D on February 05, 2007, 10:08:42 AM
please share with us some of your experience in nattie training.. give some of our less experience trainers some of your insite to what makes a successful nattie competitive bb'er.



The best thing is being bigger than some juicers. ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Baby_Hercules on February 05, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
please share with us some of your experience in nattie training.. give some of our less experience trainers some of your insite to what makes a successful nattie competitive bb'er.


The most important thing is to have patience. Its going to take a long time too build a quality natural physique. You also have to really know your body. Its imperative for you to know what works for you nutritionally especially come contest time. As far as training goes I don't think there is a big difference in the training regimens of natural bodybuilders and drug users. The main difference is that we can't recover as quickly as they can.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2007, 07:36:01 PM
The most important thing is to have patience. Its going to take a long time too build a quality natural physique. You also have to really know your body. Its imperative for you to know what works for you nutritionally especially come contest time. As far as training goes I don't think there is a big difference in the training regimens of natural bodybuilders and drug users. The main difference is that we can't recover as quickly as they can.

that is soo true BH. It takes time but the results hang around for longer. One thing I had learnt through trial & error is to train strict and slow  ;)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: GoneAway on February 05, 2007, 09:33:16 PM
Knowing that my gains are through strict diet and training, without any illegal drugs is good.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: loco on February 06, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
23. No need for joint replacement surgery when I get old.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2007, 09:32:11 AM
24. No need to push syringe through scar tissue to use supplements  :D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on February 07, 2007, 05:08:31 PM
Let's keep this positive with no bashing of our "enhanced" brothers/sisters.


1. A cheaper supplement bill

2. Being able to take some time off training without loss of size/strength




ok, I am not bashing, but i must say this thread is so wrong.... supplemens over the counter cost far more than good UG gear....time you guys buy all that shit your bill is way higher and gains are far less...where is the logic? oh, and most of those supplements are fresh on the market and could be dangerous..gear has been around for ever and we all know what it does...plus, why are all you natties always hanging out in our steroid forum? duh... ::)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 07, 2007, 05:38:32 PM

ok, I am not bashing, but i must say this thread is so wrong.... supplemens over the counter cost far more than good UG gear....time you guys buy all that shit your bill is way higher and gains are far less...where is the logic? oh, and most of those supplements are fresh on the market and could be dangerous..gear has been around for ever and we all know what it does...plus, why are all you natties always hanging out in our steroid forum? duh... ::)

welcome to the nattie board bigjohn_bluesfan..  :)

Cost of supps is subjective. All depends where you are and your accessability to the gear, in Australia the accessability of gear even UG is considerably lower and as a result the prices are higher.. (I am speaking from prior experience)

What I have found in talking to natties is that by enlarge they don't take as many supps as the enhanced brother & that is for several reasons.. i.e grey areas on legality (ie prohormones)risks in competing including contaminated supplements, most supps are useless & the dislike of injesting outside of solid food.

I totally agree with you on the point of the new fad supps being potentially dangerous (no trials done) and people usually find out in hindsight the risks... To make myself clear, I personally believe that sensible use of AAS can be safe, thats if you have done your research and know your limitations versus your expectations.


The reason we like to hang around the steroid forum is the same reason you are here.. we got opinions (some like me were not always drugfree) and Arnold jr is one of the funniest fuckers on getbig.



Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on February 07, 2007, 06:16:39 PM
I agree with ALL SAID and I like all the natural brothers perspective too. Natties tend to be a bit of a different breed. I think we saucers are more prone to risk taking behavior..... 8)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 07, 2007, 06:20:34 PM
I agree with ALL SAID and I like all the natural brothers perspective too. Natties tend to be a bit of a different breed. I think we saucers are more prone to risk taking behavior..... 8)

I think the nattie/clean trainer is more similar than different to the enhanced trainer.. Whe it comes down to it, its just that the journey to the same end result is a bit different.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Acerimmer1 on February 17, 2007, 06:21:03 PM
I think the nattie/clean trainer is more similar than different to the enhanced trainer.. Whe it comes down to it, its just that the journey to the same end result is a bit different.

Having the Dr tell me that my kidneys and liver are in tip top condition and that my chance of a heart attack in the next ten years is so low it literally cannot be calculated.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on February 19, 2007, 07:59:35 PM
Having the Dr tell me that my kidneys and liver are in tip top condition and that my chance of a heart attack in the next ten years is so low it literally cannot be calculated.


some great points Ace.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: The Jayhawker on March 16, 2007, 11:23:13 AM
I'm not bashing anyone but it's the same feeling in college when you're a GDI (Good Damn Independent). You know that you could be in a FRAT if you wanted to, but why pay for friends when you can get them for free? ;D


Excellent health is good too.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Natty_by_Nature on March 29, 2007, 10:12:59 AM
How about something that is rare in today's society?

How about the PRIDE you feel knowing what you've accomplished is thru genuine hard work without CHEATING!  (Juicers hate the "C" word...he,he)

Also, having others in the gym ask you what you take (as if you juice).  That's the ultimate complement!
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: BigCypriate on April 05, 2007, 07:31:40 AM
Great thread AVBG  :)

1. Watching the juicers in my gym look over at me when im curling the 72 pounders, knowing that most of them cant

2. Just knowing that every ounce of muscle on my frame is from good old food and puttin up the iron!

3. Being able to go abroad for a week and not worrying that I will lose muscle!!!

 
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on April 05, 2007, 01:24:59 PM
Great thread AVBG  :)

1. Watching the juicers in my gym look over at me when im curling the 72 pounders, knowing that most of them cant

2. Just knowing that every ounce of muscle on my frame is from good old food and puttin up the iron!

3. Being able to go abroad for a week and not worrying that I will lose muscle!!!

 

Thanks BigC, my fave is #3.. definately.. taking a layoff aint a bigdeal even for two or three weeks.. Also, not worrying about running out of "supplements" or the anxiety of coming to the end of a cycle is  8)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2007, 04:11:50 AM
Thanks BigC, my fave is #3.. definately.. taking a layoff aint a bigdeal even for two or three weeks.. Also, not worrying about running out of "supplements" or the anxiety of coming to the end of a cycle is  8)

I love no 3 as well.

I think it's so funny when you can actually tell when people get off cycle and shrink down in a week or two.
Being natural is great. No worrying about hair loss, heart and kidney problems, no endless list of medical drugs to combat the sides of other medical drugs to combat the sides of ther medical drugs....  ;D ;D

Plus, you can show the youngsters an the gym that you can look great without having to juice.  ;)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: War-Horse on April 17, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
I just dont want to know all the scientific drug interactions, and timing of this drug with that drug......Seems like a headache.  I see my friends go on cycle and theyre high on life for awhile, but then theyre freaking out about post cycle gear and bitch tits and losing size.....

I love building the foundation of the house (body) then adding some more on top.

I have alot of muscle from heavylifting and its still there if i miss 3 weeks of training....Thats priceless for peace of mind.

Ive always had acne and a bloated look so people say i use.....its too funny cuz i figure their own mind limits their progress of whats possible.

Steroids are for people who want to much attention too fast, so took the shortcut.  Come off the gear unless your a national level player with true potential......Most of us arent, so whats the use of this rollercoaster of drugs??
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Dredlock Rasta on June 12, 2007, 07:40:09 PM
Thanks BigC, my fave is #3.. definately.. taking a layoff aint a bigdeal even for two or three weeks.. Also, not worrying about running out of "supplements" or the anxiety of coming to the end of a cycle is  8)

I still worrying about losing muscle when training natural. I hate missing workouts. If I took a week or two off I probably wouldn't loose that much muscle but the possibility of losing any is something I don't want to take.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Herc on June 21, 2007, 11:52:50 PM
If I ever did steriods especially in high school I probably would have gotten ridiculously big and ended up looking like an ogar.  The limitations of being natural are just right to make me a magnet for woman so im glad I didnt get to big.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Mars on June 22, 2007, 01:50:13 AM
I still worrying about losing muscle when training natural. I hate missing workouts. If I took a week or two off I probably wouldn't loose that much muscle but the possibility of losing any is something I don't want to take.

It's all pretty much in the mind, when i take of only one week of training i feel weak and small as the day is long while i prolly haven't lost anything, i need the soreness to feel "big" it's a weird thing.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: DK II on June 22, 2007, 01:56:24 AM
It's all pretty much in the mind, when i take of only one week of training i feel weak and small as the day is long while i prolly haven't lost anything, i need the soreness to feel "big" it's a weird thing.

yeah me too. i love to get sore. it shows me i had a good workout, i also love that it reminds me of the workout i had one or two days ago.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: Mars on June 22, 2007, 02:33:21 AM
yeah me too. i love to get sore. it shows me i had a good workout, i also love that it reminds me of the workout i had one or two days ago.  ;D ;D

Exactly, when i'm not as sore from a brutal back workout as i expected to be i'm highly dissapointed ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: AVBG on June 22, 2007, 02:44:32 AM
Exactly, when i'm not as sore from a brutal back workout as i expected to be i'm highly dissapointed ;D

I know what you mean.. If I am not the slightest sore, I feel like that I may not have worked out hard enough and wasted the workout
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: DK II on June 22, 2007, 02:58:19 AM
I know what you mean.. If I am not the slightest sore, I feel like that I may not have worked out hard enough and wasted the workout

Same here.

It's probably BS, since you have worked out anyways, but being sore afterwards makes the training better in retrospective.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: mwbbuilder on July 03, 2007, 01:41:14 PM
Calling natural bodybuilders

NATTIE ot NATTYS

is so gay!

I petition we never call ourselves that ever again!

Who is with me?
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: DK II on July 04, 2007, 07:57:31 AM
Calling natural bodybuilders

NATTIE ot NATTYS

is so gay!

I petition we never call ourselves that ever again!

Who is with me?

Make a better suggestion. One that does NOT sound gay. Good luck.
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural BB or about being a Nattie?
Post by: mwbbuilder on July 08, 2007, 12:01:38 PM
Leave it as Naural Bodybuilders
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: AVBG on July 08, 2007, 12:15:15 PM
Leave it as Naural Bodybuilders

I agree
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: musclehedz on July 11, 2007, 12:53:23 AM
Lets make it "narrow" bodybuilders
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: jonno gb on July 11, 2007, 01:10:12 PM
Lets make it "narrow" bodybuilders
Speak for yourself ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on July 12, 2007, 05:08:41 AM
Lets make it "narrow" bodybuilders

haha, is that why you're giong to juice??

monster self ownage.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: OakExpress on July 14, 2007, 02:53:05 PM
My supplement bill is about $120/month.  Since most of my supplements are meal replacements, I actually saving money.  Here's what I use...

1) LaBrada Lean Body Shakes
2) Optimum Nutrition BCAAs
3) Fish Oil
4) Glucosamine with Chondroitin & MSM
5) NOW Glutamine
6) Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey
7) GNC Mega Men Multivitamin
8) Vitargo CGL
* All of these things would be something that a non-natural competitor would use.

What do I like about Natural Bodybuilding?
1) It gives me fitness goals that keep my health focused year after year
2) I'm stronger at 43 than any other time in my life
3) Getting asked time after time what I am using... "ummm ... nothing bro but thanks for asking."
4) When my kids run to me after I've competed and throw their arms around me
5) Unmasked gawking at the pool during the summer
6) Respect from other athletes
7) Joy of training
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Charlys69 on July 19, 2007, 04:58:22 AM
2) I'm stronger at 43 than any other time in my life
7) Joy of training

Me, too.....

what i liked most is the fact that i have a "stable basis" in strength & Musclemass, and there is no crushdown
like many steroid-users will have after there cycles.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Tatyana on August 27, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
Hey, I like nattie  ;D

Nattie Tattie, Nat Tat, sort of works, except I am not fond of having my name shortened

Being able to give advice to the young lads in the gym, and they know I must know what I am talking about, being a woman bigger arms and legs than them

Not having to worry about 'did I get away with it this time' (androgenic effects)

Knowing that off season I will look like a woman again

Knowing that everything I have done and learned about training and diet are things that I can do for life

x
x
x

T
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: AVBG on August 27, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
Hey, I like nattie  ;D

Nattie Tattie, Nat Tat, sort of works, except I am not fond of having my name shortened

Being able to give advice to the young lads in the gym, and they know I must know what I am talking about, being a woman bigger arms and legs than them

Not having to worry about 'did I get away with it this time' (androgenic effects)

Knowing that off season I will look like a woman again

Knowing that everything I have done and learned about training and diet are things that I can do for life

x
x
x

T

Great post Tatyana...welcome to our board.  :)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 10, 2007, 01:01:05 PM
1. Unlike steroid users you can take credit for your physique.  We all know guys that juice that know everything about training. Then when they go off for six months they look like they have never worked out in their life.  If you're natural your physique stays with you.  Ex juicers can give no explanation why they look like crap off the sauce but will take all the credit for their physique while on steroids.

2. Juicers are aggressive and confident while enjoying that extra androgen rush. When off they become depressed, anxious, nervous, and have an almost drug addicted need to do another cycle.  Training natural keeps your emotions on an even keel. 

3. Most long time users get into dealing too. The fear of getting arrested or having the door kicked in by eight heavily armed cops is non existent if your a natural. 

4. Most users after a couple of cycles can never go back to training natural because it seems like a waste of time.  I have been around the game long enough to see the guys that have cycled on and off for 10 years.  The majority give up on bodybuilding when they quit the game of juicing. Most of them quit because of financial, criminal or health problems.  Try to tell this to a physique monster who is 28 and has been juicing in cycles for 8 years.  They don't understand their own addiction.  There will come a time when they will. I have seen to many guys that have given up on education and getting a real career pursuing muscles from a syringe.

5. A natural bodybuilder doesn't have that fragile mental state that says I will risk health to look scary to other males and sexy to some females. 

6.  Lastly, physical culture for me is more than cosmetics.  It's function and that includes optimum health.  You can't say you are after health if you are sticking a syringe in your butt.

Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: GoneAway on November 11, 2007, 12:41:24 AM
regarding number 5. in oldtimer1s post...

bbing competition doesnt factor into normal life 'sary factor' neither does it the other way around. if u train just to look good on a beach, good for u, but others do it to have a bigger and better body than another man or woman in a competition. if u use drugs for it, so what. health problems will come about 20+ years later for most. no need to worry about them while ur young, which is when u should be making the most out of life.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: trab on November 11, 2007, 05:16:16 AM
 ::)  ;D

Seems all BBers, narurals or steroid users, share one thing - ALL CRAZY!  ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: GoneAway on November 11, 2007, 05:46:14 AM
nothing crazy about training, dieting and competing. people do that in a ton of other sports. thing about bbing is, people dont realise how seriously some ppl can take it, so they never see the desire in their eyes to be the best. the ones who complain and cant see it, are the ones who never improve past gaining a few kilos of muscle to be the 'athletic' looking guy u see everyday on the beach. not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: trab on November 11, 2007, 06:29:50 AM
Everyone got different reasons, drives, goals.....
The idea that steroids are going to harm or kill is silly. At the level of todays pro BBing I think they are likely harmfull to most. Its not just the androgen and anabolic. The insulin and size and effect of being that
big is a major strain on the body.

Steroids can be very helpfull to keeping the muscle youve built if subjected to high heat or stress.
Take a big strong natural guy and send him to Iraq in the heat or let him work in the sun on roofs etc
with me. Both guys will melt fast.
Give him even a little Stanoz or primo and he'd be wonderfully ripped.

Irrational uneducated attacks based on no experience are ignorant.
But No,I dont like waht many  BBers look like today. Wolf and Victor look good IMO.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Knives on January 13, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
but trab, don't all your gains go away after 6 months of being off ? ::)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: snowboarding_bear on February 29, 2008, 10:36:06 AM
best thing for me is being able to say
'oh yeah you can do X amount...and you need juice..and i can do that same amount without needing juice'

and needles are creepy lmfao
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: musclehedz on March 02, 2008, 03:11:56 AM
best thing for me is being able to say
'oh yeah you can do X amount...and you need juice..and i can do that same amount without needing juice'

and needles are creepy lmfao

But you still look like a swimmer  ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: snowboarding_bear on March 02, 2008, 04:40:44 AM
a swimmer?
wait..me?
nah im not very seaworthy lmfao
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on March 04, 2008, 03:06:12 AM
But you still look like a swimmer  ;D

more like a snowboarder, don't you think??  ::) ::)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: snowboarding_bear on March 04, 2008, 10:22:15 AM
im not exactly the average snowboarder since i live in florida lmfao
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on March 04, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
im not exactly the average snowboarder since i live in florida lmfao

ok, "snowboarding_musclebear", maybe you should change your handle so we all know you're more into watersports.  :-X



 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Deicide on March 04, 2008, 03:44:58 PM
Nothing, it sucks, but I am resigned to it.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: snowboarding_bear on March 04, 2008, 07:56:08 PM
ok, "snowboarding_musclebear", maybe you should change your handle so we all know you're more into watersports.  :-X



 ;D ;D ;D

watersports suck lol
thats why i started lifting...and because i could only snowboard like 3 weeks a year on snowboarding trips...and to get back into shape and not b a fatf*ck anymore
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Stebeds on June 10, 2008, 10:11:11 AM
What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?

1 - A normally defined neck instead of a neck as wide as your head. Its obvious anyone who looks like that is on Stebeds!

2 - No anger, not "excessive and artificial" anger anyway aka roid rage.

Mainly though all the things everyone said - not cheating your way there injecting stuff only a bull or horse is meant to have.

I can feel my muscles rubbing against my arms from just the 2 sets (x3) of push ups I have done in the last 5 days... thats without steroids so thats enough for me.

Arn't you only meant to see big gains from steroids if you're already like... 180 lbs or whatever and have good muscle there already to rip and build on and also is it not true only the first cycle ever has the maximum effect - any afterwards don't? Even 10 years after etc I mean?



Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: iluvthtbbypht on June 23, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
i'm 23 been natural since i started working out......and there isn't a whole lot that i like about it. i'm 5'10 260 most days and sit around 12-14% bf. i 'feel' small, i get dirty looks from MOST natties, haven't been able to get a spot in God knows how long.

And what i hate most is that i have to lumped into the category as those that say people who have juiced are cheaters like they didn't put the time in.
 ::)Plus anyone who has gone away from being natural when an intelligent person would(ie, 5 years of training experience, good diet) doesn't fall apart after a cycle.

No actually what i hate most is that i am on day 8 (OF 14) on day roughly 1900 calories a day and 35 minutes of cardio. AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

 
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on June 24, 2008, 01:08:51 AM
i'm 23 been natural since i started working out......and there isn't a whole lot that i like about it. i'm 5'10 260 most days and sit around 12-14% bf. i 'feel' small, i get dirty looks from MOST natties, haven't been able to get a spot in God knows how long.

And what i hate most is that i have to lumped into the category as those that say people who have juiced are cheaters like they didn't put the time in.
 ::)Plus anyone who has gone away from being natural when an intelligent person would(ie, 5 years of training experience, good diet) doesn't fall apart after a cycle.

No actually what i hate most is that i am on day 8 (OF 14) on day roughly 1900 calories a day and 35 minutes of cardio. AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

 

More like 30%, don't you think?

Post a pic please.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Knives on June 24, 2008, 06:17:12 AM
More like 30%, don't you think?

Post a pic please.

i love how he says he feels "small" with those stats

he would be bigger than most bodybuilders from the 70s

and natural to boot
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on June 24, 2008, 06:20:26 AM
i love how he says he feels "small" with those stats

he would be bigger than most bodybuilders from the 70s

and natural to boot

 ;D ;D

i was thinking the same.

he probably is the SF sort of guy.  ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: iluvthtbbypht on June 27, 2008, 03:08:36 PM
More like 30%, don't you think?

Post a pic please.

Here are 4.

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(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00003.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00004.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00005.jpg)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Knives on June 27, 2008, 10:58:40 PM
Here are 4.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00002.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00003.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00004.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/socalbbc/ECP_00005.jpg)

awesome job, great lats, big dude overall for sure

but yeah you look about 20+% bodyfat easily, not hatin, just statin the truth
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on June 30, 2008, 05:26:39 AM
Here are 4.


easily 20+% bf.

I'm sorry.

If you had less bf, you would have taken the pics without the shirt on, too. But you can see on your arms and the chest part that you still have a rather high bf%.  ;D

Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: pitwarrior on June 30, 2008, 06:30:22 PM
being able to know that your the real deal without taking shortcuts with juice. juice is banned everywhere and yet bodybuilding aloows it to continue.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on July 01, 2008, 12:00:06 AM
being able to know that your the real deal without taking shortcuts with juice. juice is banned everywhere and yet bodybuilding aloows it to continue.

epic uncalled bashing steroids.

hint: this is the natural board.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: ASJChaotic on July 10, 2008, 10:28:56 AM
easily 20+% bf.

I'm sorry.

If you had less bf, you would have taken the pics without the shirt on, too. But you can see on your arms and the chest part that you still have a rather high bf%.  ;D



exactly over 20% bodyfat, I am being modest saying 11% and I have all of my abs lol
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Arnold jr on October 26, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
Hey guys, hope you don't mind me coming in on your topic here. First and foremost, I have nothing against guys that are natural...most of my training partners over the years have been natural. That said, I came across this thread and just saw so many things that in my mind are simply false and wanted to shed some of my opinions on them. I've picked out my favorite ones from this thread and made some comments.

Being able to take some time off training without loss of size/strength


Same can be done if you use performance enhancing drugs…this is just one of those myths


Having all the girls drool at you.


Most girls don’t care about this either way…after all, I don’t have any problems


Knowing you did it all on your own from hard work.


The idea of using performance enhancing drugs or rather the correct idea is so that you can do more work then you could otherwise; so that your work will be more productive. The idea that those who use have get to do less work is just ridiculous.


Staying healthy.


Show me facts that can prove otherwise while using performance enhancing drugs. Facts, not myths or rumors.


Builds a good attitude and healthy mind.

Show me facts that can prove otherwise while using performance enhancing drugs. Facts, not myths or rumors.


Strength unlimited.

And if you use performance enhancing drugs this changes this how?


Knowing that by being a nattie I am extending my life rather than shortening it by taking the other route.
Show me facts that can prove otherwise while using performance enhancing drugs. Facts, not myths or rumors.


Not having to bullshit your friends or family about your sudden gains.

I agree, this is an irritating thing for a lot of guys. As for myself, I have always been a very open and honest person to everyone about everything. Any time anyone ask this question to me, I see no reason to lie.


The ability and inclination to cross train.

Explain?


Not go through depression when out of sups

Show me facts that can prove otherwise while using performance enhancing drugs. Facts, not myths or rumors.


No back acne.

Most guys never get this…again, very overblown


No non genetic early on set male baldness.

Steroids can sometimes speed up going bald in some men, but it will not artificially induce it. If you go bald, you were going to go bald any way.


No need for joint replacement surgery when I get old.

Many performance enhancing drugs have been proven to promote good joint health and many have healing properties.


No need to push syringe through scar tissue to use supplements

If this happens it’s the users own fault. There are more then enough places to rotate injections for this to never happen


Just knowing that every ounce of muscle on my frame is from good old food and puttin up the iron!

The juicer lifted the same iron. Without the iron he would not have grown


Being able to go abroad for a week and not worrying that I will lose muscle!!!

I travel all the time all over the place and have never once worried about this


Unlike steroid users you can take credit for your physique.  We all know guys that juice that know everything about training. Then when they go off for six months they look like they have never worked out in their life.  If you're natural your physique stays with you.  Ex juicers can give no explanation why they look like crap off the sauce but will take all the credit for their physique while on steroids.

There is so much wrong with this statement. Steroids just don’t work like you seem to think they do…not even close.


Most long time users get into dealing too. The fear of getting arrested or having the door kicked in by eight heavily armed cops is non existent if your a natural. 

Wow, now this one is just plain ridiculous, lol!


Most users after a couple of cycles can never go back to training natural because it seems like a waste of time.  I have been around the game long enough to see the guys that have cycled on and off for 10 years.  The majority give up on bodybuilding when they quit the game of juicing. Most of them quit because of financial, criminal or health problems.  Try to tell this to a physique monster who is 28 and has been juicing in cycles for 8 years.  They don't understand their own addiction.  There will come a time when they will. I have seen to many guys that have given up on education and getting a real career pursuing muscles from a syringe.

I’ve seen many naturals make this same mistake and become to blinded by the iron game to put reality into perspective…this is often a downside to human nature.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Luolamies on October 29, 2008, 10:18:47 AM
The one thing i like about natural athletes is the fact that they are about half my size...

On a serious note i had been liftinG seriously over 6 years before touching gear and i already had good size, but why be a human when you can be a SUPERHUMAN?
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 29, 2008, 02:39:30 PM
The one thing i like about natural athletes is the fact that they are about half my size...

On a serious note i had been liftinG seriously over 6 years before touching gear and i already had good size, but why be a human when you can be a SUPERHUMAN?
HAHHAHAHHAHHAHA
I love how all you steroid taking drug abusing, hormone shooting, diuretic using, needle up your ass, pills down your throat morons come on the natural board to bash naturals
who don't need drugs to get in shape unlike you people
working out is great, not to the point where you get obsessed with it and take drugs
you people are no different than cocaine addicts
you must always have money for your D-Bol and Test
even if that means having an old man live in your house
to have money for your DRUGS
that are meant for SHEEP and HORSES and BULLS
and once you're off them you lose everything you gained
and you shorten your life by 1/3 cuz of that
stick that needle in your ass STFU and stay on the steroid board  ::)
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Luolamies on October 29, 2008, 04:02:05 PM
Recently i was off for over a year and barely lost anything. As for bulls and horses... There's testosterone in humans too.

BTW: I would stick that needle in my glute, but currently i'm having a hard time getting human grade gear.

PS. You sound very angry, maybe you should talk to your high school councelor?
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: garebear on October 29, 2008, 04:19:06 PM
Recently i was off for over a year and barely lost anything. As for bulls and horses... There's testosterone in humans too.

BTW: I would stick that needle in my glute, but currently i'm having a hard time getting human grade gear.

PS. You sound very angry, maybe you should talk to your high school councelor?
Whey don't you just walk around wearing one of those muscle suits or a puffy coat?

In both instances, just like steroids, you have not really earned what you are carrying around. Essentially, you are lying to people for your ego. At least this way, you would still have your health (and your testes).
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 29, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
Whey don't you just walk around wearing one of those muscle suits or a puffy coat?

In both instances, just like steroids, you have not really earned what you are carrying around. Essentially, you are lying to people for your ego. At least this way, you would still have your health (and your testes).
and people give steroid takers 0 respect
that is ZERO RESPECT

some guy on the beach was walking around real buff and everyone was making horse sounds
people know if you're steroids
and as a result will contribute all your gains to STEROIDS



GIRLS fucking hate steroid takers and their physique, if it was all about who was the biggest then Ronnie Coleman would get all the girls  ::)
you're not better than naturals
you're simply drug addicts
hope this helps
...fags
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Luolamies on October 29, 2008, 05:25:36 PM
Because walking around with a big jacket on and then going to the gym and trying to squat to impress the other pencil necks will only get you hurt. If you don't have real muscle you do not have muscle. I've been training for allmost 12 years, 6 naturally. And i've done things like 8 - drop sets and passed on the floor and that was on top of 90 minute supersetting and forced reps leg training. After that i wen't to the locker room and took one 10 mg methandsotenole tablet and if you think that, that was what made my legs huge you are borderline retarded.

I'm sure your daddy talks about it all the time sitting on his lazy boy and bashing power athletes for cheating, but what you and the other sheeps don't get is the fact that in every top sports they use performance enhancing drugs. From: Football to baseball to ice hockey to swimming to tennis to cycling...
ALL OF THEM.

And if you ever bother to train as long and hard as i have, you are not going to achieve it unless you only train for yourself and not some dumb cheerleader who propably got the BUG from Tyrone and Leeroy...
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: northeast bodybuilder on January 07, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Ive been natural bodybuilding for 7 years and love it.making good gains
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: tonymctones on January 08, 2009, 07:57:06 AM
LOL i think its hillarious how ppl think guys who take steriods dont earn their muscle...hahahahah fuking funny.

Im natural always have probably always will be, but if you feel that way about roids i hope you dont take any type of supplements b/c hey youre not earning your muscle  ::)

Also AXA you would be suprised how many ppl are on steroids, more ppl than not who take steroids dont look like they do...and trust girls dig guys on steroids just as much as naturals.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: jorgen on January 11, 2009, 12:55:10 PM
What I like about natural BBing is that I take pride in getting big through progressively increasing the amount of weight lifted over time and know that I have done it myself. 
It's like a project/hobby.  I think the results are better when I know that I did it myself.

I also take pride in the fact that I know that great results can be achieved this way.  And that knowing how to train properly, rest properly, and eat properly is way more effective than the nutjobs I see in the gym, on gear, who have no idea what they are doing and make little or no changes year after year.  Hell, they don't even squat.  Or their form is shite..

Thanks.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Drug Free on February 11, 2009, 08:04:58 AM
Keeping my hard earned gains.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Fighting40 on February 12, 2009, 08:10:33 AM
I am confused as to why we are so hard on each other (Naturals vs Others).  We are all part of the same sport/activity and should do our best to be supportive of each other.  I "CHOOSE" to be natural, but I only make decisions for myself.  Others have a different point of view and are free to make their own choices.

I choose to be natural because I like my look and enjoy my daily workout.  Besides, I am a goody two shoes and my biggest hangup with gear is it's illegal nature.  One bit of advice for those that think their opinion is the only correct one.......LIGHTEN UP!
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: DK II on February 13, 2009, 12:24:25 AM
I am confused as to why we are so hard on each other (Naturals vs Others).  We are all part of the same sport/activity and should do our best to be supportive of each other.  I "CHOOSE" to be natural, but I only make decisions for myself.  Others have a different point of view and are free to make their own choices.

I choose to be natural because I like my look and enjoy my daily workout.  Besides, I am a goody two shoes and my biggest hangup with gear is it's illegal nature.  One bit of advice for those that think their opinion is the only correct one.......LIGHTEN UP!

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Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: HE-MAN2012 on February 27, 2009, 08:56:53 AM
Keeping my natural levels of hormone production. Not having to spend all that money and even more valuable time risking finding shit off the black market and risk getting arrested.
Avoiding all the side effects.
Just being able to see what I can accomplish with only my own hormones.

I guess the biggest reason why I would consider going on gear is the time. It takes a while to make gains naturally and you have to be very patient. I have goal that I would rather see be met sooner, but still for me the costs outweigh that benefit.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: jon cole on March 03, 2009, 11:44:50 PM
-it's a real challenge.
-no law/moral question.
-no health trouble.
-achieve your potential.

on the other side.

-training while on gear is a fantastic trip.
-life is too short, so make the choice. 
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: 100kg Clint on May 06, 2009, 01:48:25 AM
I am natural now but have tried several short courses when i was younger. I plan to stay natural now as im very interested in seeing just what shape i can get my body in without external test. Just my true body inside and out. Also i plan on competing this year, easier to keep gains without having to do course after course. No side effects, not that i had many coz i didnt do massive courses but the drop of my test after a course (even with heaps of natural test BB supplements) had a big effect. Seeing pictures of Jay Rodriguez inspires me to stay natural too.
On the other side, on gear, i had a wicked looking body, had women all over me and felt very confident and happy with my look. Quick gains gets alot of attention. Most of which i experienced was good.
However, im over that stage of my life and feel confident in myself. Very excited about competing in naturals and am almost finished testing to become a fire fighter this year, where i get drug tested to get in anyway! The biggest allure for me with gear was looking great QUICK and easier. But the allure of creating my body the best and biggest it can get and being all me attracts me more. I dont discriminate people either way  ;D
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: FootballCoach on July 11, 2009, 05:32:45 AM
Ill say my two cents

My best friend growing up was in love with bodybuilding. Both of us were. He started using before he was 19, I never used. Essentially where he once thought I looked great, he soon blew me away.  The drugs made the difference not the training so my guess is that YEAH, THE DRUGS GIVE YOU A HUGE FREAKING EDGE. When I trained at a gym I watched guys in their teens blow up with freaky arms and calves that Id never achieve and they were juicing and told me so. Theyd giggle when they handled weight that theyd previously struggled with and soon after some time on the juice all of them had personality changes that made them PRICKS.

my best friend too, his attitude turned to complete shit on roids. I never judged him for  it because I understand that ITS WHAT IT TAKES TO GO PRO. btw, he is pro now as far as I know. I havent seen him in 8-9 years I guess.

What I will never understand though is why anyone would take the drugs for recreational purposes. I mean, shoot, If it meant a pro football or pro baseball contract or even a good shot at making a bundle in bodybuilding then MAYBE ...but just to walk around with some beach muscles???? wtf, why bother.


ill bet its not cheap to buy that stuff, still illegal too right? might jeapardize your whole future if you get busted.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: FootballCoach on July 11, 2009, 05:34:35 AM
Oh and to answer the OP question, I love lifting weights and building my body. Theres no better feeling then putting on a tee shirt and thinking "Gawd, I just might bust these sleeves if   I flex" and the tee shirt is XXL.  "NA MEAN?"

I like the fact that I am stronger than ...say ....98% of the people on the planet...thats pretty cool too.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Morizz on September 19, 2009, 06:58:12 AM
Note have to worry about the side effects, of course. 
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: jprc10 on October 16, 2009, 06:23:38 AM
1. No need to worry about possible damage done to my body in the future.

2. Cheaper

3. My overall goal, I don't really like the "freaky" BB look (Coleman, Cutler for example), I prefer the natural bodybuilder look by far.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Stebeds on November 27, 2009, 08:38:50 AM
The truth is, there is only one Ronnie Coleman. Even with steroids, most of us will never look like him or even get anywhere approaching his physique. People that take steroids may be doing so simply because they want to get bigger than they normally would, in the same time.

Its completely true what Arnold jr said in the post on the last page. How silly it is to assume steroid users do not have to work as hard... where do you think that muscle comes from, the steroid? NOPE. Steroids will in fact have no effect if you don't A. Train harder than you would normally aka not on steroids and B. Eat more than you normally would.

People seem to think it is the steroid that builds muscle, don't be silly it is just a tiny 5mg pill, look how SMALL the pill is, theres your clue! It is protein synthesis and HARDER workouts (not easier) and more food, that in conjunction with steroids, creates the better muscle growth.

Thats basically my point, steroids are in fact not a short cut because you have to lift heavier to earn the extra muscle! Your muscle size is only a direct reflection on the weight you lift and it has to increase all the time where possible.

In that regard, steroid users are actually not "cheating" at all, they are lifting heavier weighs and putting the SAME EFFORT IN as naturals, but the drug allows you to build the muscle in less time.

I wanna see some proper scientific tests, there are several I have seen in the past but I wanna see them again. The advantages to using steroids outweigh the cons for me. For example, tests were done where people took a steroid and they did not lift one single weight and even then they still put on muscle.

Thats amazing!

But what about the effect steroids have when lifting? I mean, muscle growth has to be "improved" by a certain percentage over normal lifting with no steroid... but what are the figures on that?

All I know is, thank god we do have these steroids.

I am 33 now and too skinny. I want to be looking good by the time I am 40 but hey... to me thats old and past it (even though the reality is a man is in his prime testosterone wise at 40 years old) so yeah, I will have steroids... why should I lift weights for 7 years when I can probably cut that in half by doing a couple of cycles a year?

The feeling that "its all natural" doesn't really interest me, since you have to work actually HARDER on steroids, to get gains, why do you think steroid users get more gains in the first place, its not just the steroid, that is just like the "oil" you need for the motor, it is the workouts themselves and the food you eat that counts.

I also used to think just steroid alone are what built muscles. I now know that steroids, the chemicals contained in them, have ZERO effect on making muscles bigger, it is only one thing that can do that and that is of course - protein. The steroid merely drives more protein into the muscles, it does not build them even in the slightest, its impossible, the chemicals in the pill prove this since there is no protein in steroid tablets lol.



Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 09, 2010, 05:10:53 AM
Lifting natty and living a healthy lifestyle keeps you looking and feeling young.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Super Natural on May 21, 2010, 12:14:42 AM
Enjoyed reading this thread.... looking at the pros verses cons just confirms to me I'm on the right track for myself, inspires me to stay clean.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Jay8899 on October 06, 2012, 10:59:30 AM
i love making my own gains,building my own physique with no assistance but my own..based on food and few supps.Its very rewarding.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Chaan on August 17, 2014, 08:56:27 PM
Nothing. I only get laughed at.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 18, 2014, 02:26:04 AM
Nothing. I only get laughed at.

You need to find some new friends then.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Chaan on August 18, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
You need to find some new friends then.

Ahh, they never laughed, they got upset when I got into fitness, or even scared.
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Charlys69 on September 30, 2014, 10:23:35 AM
the main reason is, you can train much more years intense, even over 50, than most "roiduser" which are out of the Gym mostly in there late 40´s. i like to do it lifetime....not stop depressed one day you get your quit....
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Bobby Cole on June 05, 2018, 06:08:45 AM
About 5 years ago the VA pretty much sent me home to die.  My organs were shutting down, I had no muscle tone and with the exception of my stomach, my skin was just a covering for my bones.  
So, to make a long story short, I made some huge changes and hitting the gym was the most major change I made and second to that was what I put into my body.  

From my first bicep curls with a 10# dumbbell and my first glass of whey protein mix, it’s all been a natural journey which is going to put me in the seniors amateur competition in my state in 2020 and at the grand old age of 70.  
My arms went from 11” to 19 1/2”, my waist was 52” and after a lot of water and fat loss is now sitting at 33”.  My chest went from 46” with man tits to 52” solid inches.  

About the only thing I might do a little different than some natural builders in my diet is the use of fenugreek in my postmix or witches brew as I like to call it.  Oh yeah, and by post mix I do mean that it’s a concoction which I drink from the time I finish a workout to the time I go to bed.  About 2 gallons of it per day, everyday since I workout for 2 hours ......every day.  

I also use tongkat ali three times a week for an aromatase blocker and 9 to 12 mg’s of extra boron each day to help max out my free testosterone.  

Bottom line, other than the needle going in for blood tests every 3 months or so, I refuse to go any other way than the natural lifestyle because it gave my body, health and life back to me.  
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 05, 2018, 06:15:21 AM
Being 43 yo in great shape and all the gains from years of hard work are still with me. 

Steroids are FNG dumb unless you are a NFL or pro level athlete. 
Title: Re: What do YOU like about Natural Bodybuilding? or being a Natural Bodybuilder?
Post by: HerbertSward on June 22, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
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A natural approach is the best one. The results are always with you without side effects to your health.
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Be patient while building your body.
And remember No pain - No gain!)
Good luck!