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Title: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 09:35:11 AM
I think there's a difference between being frugal/wise with cash and being cheap.

That having been said, here's what happened yesterday.  A supplier came in with a huge bouquet of flowers which he dumped on my desk, but technically they were for everyone. (I'm the only female)  I put them out in the main area, but the guys complained that they "smelled" so I brought them back to my desk.  All of this back and forth attracted the attention of a really junior guy who is basically a schlepper, but he makes decent money and lives at home, so doesn't really have any financial obligations. He wanted to take them to give to his girlfriend.  None of us really wanted them, so we said sure...

Today he's all smiles and walking around with his pecs stuck out because his girlfriend went out of her way to "appreciate" him on V-Day, since she was under the impression that he spent well over $100 on flowers for her.  He told us he lied, and finds nothing wrong with that.

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: MiniMiggy on February 15, 2007, 09:39:02 AM
  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\

yes.  the problem is that he lied, not that he's cheap.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 09:49:58 AM
yes.  the problem is that he lied, not that he's cheap.

But the lying was inspired by his cheapness.  He admitted to us that he had the money to buy her flowers, but he preferred to lie so he could save a few bucks.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: MiniMiggy on February 15, 2007, 09:52:05 AM
But the lying was inspired by his cheapness.  He admitted to us that he had the money to buy her flowers, but he preferred to lie so he could save a few bucks.

Frugality is not a bad thing. He could have told her that he was saving for his own place or whatever, but that he sitll wanted her to have something pretty. 
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 10:06:28 AM
Frugality is not a bad thing. He could have told her that he was saving for his own place or whatever, but that he sitll wanted her to have something pretty. 

Yes, I agree about frugality being not a bad thing. I'd rather go to White Castle on V-Day with an honest frugal person though, than be with someone willing to lie to save money.  To me that's the difference between being frugal and cheap.

Plus, don't you think it's doubtful that he would have gotten the kind of reaction from her that he did, if he would have admitted that these were in fact flowers purchased by someone else for other people.  Would you be impressed? He should have just brought them home and said, "look, free flowers."  But he knew he'd make the flowers work for him if he lied.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: MiniMiggy on February 15, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
Yes, I agree about frugality being not a bad thing. I'd rather go to White Castle on V-Day with an honest frugal person though, than be with someone willing to lie to save money.  To me that's the difference between being frugal and cheap.

Plus, don't you think it's doubtful that he would have gotten the kind of reaction from her that he did, if he would have admitted that these were in fact flowers purchased by someone else for other people.  Would you be impressed? He should have just brought them home and said, "look, free flowers."  But he knew he'd make the flowers work for him if he lied.

Perhaps you are right.  But if I lived in the country, I would appreciate it if somebody picked flowers for me.  So, if somebody told me that they saw these free flowers and thought about me, and then brought them home because they thought that I would like them around the house, I would be grateful.

Perhaps the problem is that we live in a materialistic culture, where spending a certain amount entitles you to certain "favors" from a woman?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
Oh sure, I'd love it (and do) if someone thought of me out of the blue and spent the time to pick flowers for me... or raspberries, or whatever. It shows thoughtfulness.

I don't know what he told her with regard to the cost of the flowers.  It was a huge bouquet and I'm certain it was worth what I said... but I don't know that it's the $$ value of the flowers that encouraged her to spoil him in bed, but rather her melting with emotion, thinking that he cared for her so much that he went to the effort of choosing beautiful flowers and schlepping them home.  That they were expensive may have crossed her mind in that she thought he made a cash sacrifice because he cares for her and wanted to make her happy.  I don't think people usually interpret these things as straightforward bartering for sex.  Do they?


Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 15, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
i didn't read the original post starting this thread cause i know the answer..

can cheap men be trusted?

NO...

and i have tonnes of experience of mooches and ex friends to give as examples...except thats too much typing..

soo..i'll stick with..NO
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Playboy on February 15, 2007, 11:52:44 AM
I think there's a difference between being frugal/wise with cash and being cheap.

That having been said, here's what happened yesterday.  A supplier came in with a huge bouquet of flowers which he dumped on my desk, but technically they were for everyone. (I'm the only female)  I put them out in the main area, but the guys complained that they "smelled" so I brought them back to my desk.  All of this back and forth attracted the attention of a really junior guy who is basically a schlepper, but he makes decent money and lives at home, so doesn't really have any financial obligations. He wanted to take them to give to his girlfriend.  None of us really wanted them, so we said sure...

Today he's all smiles and walking around with his pecs stuck out because his girlfriend went out of her way to "appreciate" him on V-Day, since she was under the impression that he spent well over $100 on flowers for her.  He told us he lied, and finds nothing wrong with that.

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\
You are 100% right on this on Deedee.
Every woman that I have ever been with has always had a story about a cheap guy that they dated and they got rid of them in a hurry. I feel sorry for this fellows girl  :-\

PB
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: babydoc on February 15, 2007, 02:14:34 PM
Cheap men CANNOT be trusted.  Period.  End of discussion.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: MiniMiggy on February 15, 2007, 02:34:09 PM
I'll never understand any of it. I just don't care anymore, like I said, love does not exist......It's just people using other people.......

Love does exist.  But it seems like fewer people are capable of it these days. 
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: MiniMiggy on February 15, 2007, 02:48:49 PM
why are relationships so TOUGH????????

Relationships are tough.  They are tougher if you make the other person bear the weight of all your expectations and dreams. 

I have been in a successful relationship for the last four years, and I think it's because I found out what I believed in and what mattered to me in the single years that preceded them. When I got into my current relationship the world didn't revolve around the new person in my life.  Strangely, it helped make me a more open and giving person than when my significant other was the focus of all my attention. 
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 15, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
i don't think thats being cheap... who cares where he got the flowers? do u really think she was happy because he spent over 100 or because he got her the flowers?
if she likes him because he spends money? well than that hooch mama gotta go like a bad habit!
no girls should love a man just because he spends money on her, unless shes a hooker!
it's the thought that counts!  maybe some of u whose pissed off didn't receive any flowers yesterday? lol haters...
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: 24KT on February 15, 2007, 03:44:50 PM
Never trust a cheap man, never trust a liar, ...run like hell from a cheap liar! 
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2007, 05:10:12 PM
A cheap man obviously cares about finances which is good....lying is not.

Why never trust a cheap man, because he doesn't piss away money?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: 24KT on February 15, 2007, 05:24:42 PM
A cheap man obviously cares about finances which is good....lying is not.

Why never trust a cheap man, because he doesn't piss away money?

There's a difference between a man who is frugal and a wise investor of money and one who is cheap.
I'd take a frugal man, even a broke man, over one who is just cheap.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2007, 05:43:42 PM
There's a difference between a man who is frugal and a wise investor of money and one who is cheap.
I'd take a frugal man, even a broke man, over one who is just cheap.
What's your point of distinction?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: littleD on February 15, 2007, 05:50:57 PM
It's not the cheapness....it is the lying part that is wrong.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2007, 05:51:56 PM
It's not the cheapness....it is the lying part that is wrong.
Exactly
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 06:11:49 PM
What's your point of distinction?

I agree with Judi here.  To put it in terms of a relationship... a frugal man is someone who saves money or at least doesn't throw it around, because he's planning for their future, cares enough to want something in the back in the event of a financial setback, or wants to save for something they can share, like a home, vacation, etc.  A cheap man is someone who thinks other people aren't "worth" spending his money on. Someone who is "cheap" is selfish.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2007, 06:22:31 PM
I agree with Judi here.  To put it in terms of a relationship... a frugal man is someone who saves money or at least doesn't throw it around, because he's planning for their future, cares enough to want something in the back in the event of a financial setback, or wants to save for something they can share, like a home, vacation, etc.  A cheap man is someone who thinks other people aren't "worth" spending his money on. Someone who is "cheap" is selfish.
I don't think anyone is really worthy of my money.  What did they do to earn it?  Does my girlfriend earn nice dinners?  Do I earn a home cooked meal?  It's not a matter of earning, deserving, etc....it's a matter of personal choice of how to spend my funds.  If I never want to pay to eat out again, it makes me cheap but not selfish.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 15, 2007, 06:39:29 PM
I don't think anyone is really worthy of my money.  What did they do to earn it?  Does my girlfriend earn nice dinners?  Do I earn a home cooked meal?  It's not a matter of earning, deserving, etc....it's a matter of personal choice of how to spend my funds.  If I never want to pay to eat out again, it makes me cheap but not selfish.

Actually, that makes you frugal, not cheap. As for the rest of it, usually when you care for someone you want to share things with them, and do things for them to show your appreciation that they are in your life, and that generally includes offering to take them out occasionally, treat them to something, whatever. The same goes for women too, so I'm not making any distinction that only men should dig into their pockets. Would you lie about where you got flowers (because you didn't want to spend the money) to impress or manipulate someone? Don't you think that's cheap?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2007, 06:43:26 PM
Actually, that makes you frugal, not cheap. As for the rest of it, usually when you care for someone you want to share things with them, and do things for them to show your appreciation that they are in your life, and that generally includes offering to take them out occasionally, treat them to something, whatever. The same goes for women too, so I'm not making any distinction that only men should dig into their pockets. Would you lie about where you got flowers (because you didn't want to spend the money) to impress or manipulate someone? Don't you think that's cheap?
I've used roses from my grandma's rose bush before, never said a word.   ;D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: babydoc on February 15, 2007, 06:50:06 PM
Cheap is when you steal toilet paper from work to take home with you. 

Cheap is when you re-gift something to someone you love.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 15, 2007, 11:45:03 PM
It's not about him being cheap... He's a liar... that's it.

He happens to be a liar who's a cheap fucktard too... but really it's two seperate issues.

This yahoo would lie to anyone about anything... stay clear of this "winner". He'll lie about you too...
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on February 16, 2007, 03:03:26 AM
I'll play the advocate's devil here.

This is might have been a one-time occaison, he was pragmatic; he saw a nice bouqet that did not get appreciated, he used it make someone feel special, ofcourse he's not gonna say he got them from the office.

Refrain from judging someone by a single event, the poor guy immediately gets labeled cheap etc for what is basically a smart move.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 16, 2007, 07:07:17 AM
I think there's a difference between being frugal/wise with cash and being cheap.

That having been said, here's what happened yesterday.  A supplier came in with a huge bouquet of flowers which he dumped on my desk, but technically they were for everyone. (I'm the only female)  I put them out in the main area, but the guys complained that they "smelled" so I brought them back to my desk.  All of this back and forth attracted the attention of a really junior guy who is basically a schlepper, but he makes decent money and lives at home, so doesn't really have any financial obligations. He wanted to take them to give to his girlfriend.  None of us really wanted them, so we said sure...

Today he's all smiles and walking around with his pecs stuck out because his girlfriend went out of her way to "appreciate" him on V-Day, since she was under the impression that he spent well over $100 on flowers for her.  He told us he lied, and finds nothing wrong with that.

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\
this will probably get deleted for being too honest but i think that this speaks more to the phonyness of women that they're only willing to have sex when they think a man spent a lot of money.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2007, 07:11:15 AM
I think if anybody has the audacity to get mad at me for how I spend my money (I consider myself moderatley cheap) then I would dump them.  I'm sure my gf thinks I spent more than I did but I will never tell her that and will let her think I did.  It's all an illusion.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 07:34:05 AM
this will probably get deleted for being too honest but i think that this speaks more to the phonyness of women that they're only willing to have sex when they think a man spent a lot of money.

Well I'm going to disagree with you.  Those flowers were actually for me, but I felt it was inappropriate to accept them so "shared" them with the guys I work with. That particular supplier has tried to give me several expensive gifts and even a trip, all of which I've refused.  There are lots of women who aren't impressed with being bought.  If someone I love does something sweet for me, or gives me something, I would want to reciprocate in some way... but it wouldn't preclude me from being "nice" of my own volition either.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 07:39:27 AM
I've used roses from my grandma's rose bush before, never said a word.   ;D

Lol!  At least you made the effort to pick them yourself...  :P
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2007, 07:41:21 AM
Lol!  At least you made the effort to pick them yourself...  :P
Deedee, I know you wanted flowers but I am a one woman guy.  Maybe if things don't work out..... :P
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 01:33:37 PM
Well I'm going to disagree with you.  Those flowers were actually for me, but I felt it was inappropriate to accept them so "shared" them with the guys I work with. That particular supplier has tried to give me several expensive gifts and even a trip, all of which I've refused.  There are lots of women who aren't impressed with being bought.  If someone I love does something sweet for me, or gives me something, I would want to reciprocate in some way... but it wouldn't preclude me from being "nice" of my own volition either.

ok now i see why ur so bitter... lol

you should have told him those flowers for you! or was it for the whole office and u happend to be the only female in the room and thats why the dude left them on your desk?
have u received any other bouquet of flowers besides the one from the office? u seem really pissed about this whole thing...



Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
Deedee, I know you wanted flowers but I am a one woman guy.  Maybe if things don't work out..... :P

Thanks for the heads up.  :)
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2007, 01:36:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up.  :)
Hahaha  :-X
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 01:40:30 PM
ok now i see why ur so bitter... lol

you should have told him those flowers for you! or was it for the whole office and u happend to be the only female in the room and thats why the dude left them on your desk?
have u received any other bouquet of flowers besides the one from the office? u seem really pissed about this whole thing...


I think you missed the whole story. Maybe you should read the thread again. But here's the summary: Some guy brought flowers to the office, I didn't want them, it isn't appropriate to accept gifts from outside suppliers, and so I gave them to the kid from another floor. He lied to his girlfriend about where he got them... told her he bought them, then bragged to us the next day about how well they worked for him. Yeah, if I had known he was going to be such a jerk with the girlfriend,  I wouldn't have let him have the flowers. The point of this thread was... is lying about something like giving flowers you didn't buy to your girlfriend cheap? And if someone is willing to lie about something like that to someone he supposedly "loves," what else would he lie about?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 01:49:38 PM
I think there's a difference between being frugal/wise with cash and being cheap.

That having been said, here's what happened yesterday.  A supplier came in with a huge bouquet of flowers which he dumped on my desk, but technically they were for everyone. (I'm the only female)  I put them out in the main area, but the guys complained that they "smelled" so I brought them back to my desk.  All of this back and forth attracted the attention of a really junior guy who is basically a schlepper, but he makes decent money and lives at home, so doesn't really have any financial obligations. He wanted to take them to give to his girlfriend.  None of us really wanted them, so we said sure...

Today he's all smiles and walking around with his pecs stuck out because his girlfriend went out of her way to "appreciate" him on V-Day, since she was under the impression that he spent well over $100 on flowers for her.  He told us he lied, and finds nothing wrong with that.

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\

well, i saw this and do u actually think his gf asked him, if he paid his own money for it? or do u think she just assumed he paid for them? because why would this girl ask such question?  i would think she was just happy to see flowers... i mean when u get gifts do u always ask if he paid his own money for them? and ask how much he paid?
i've given my gf plenty of gifts and never once she asked me where i got them or if i paid for them.. she was just happy i thought of her... ya know wat i mean?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 01:53:25 PM
and i really don't think he was bragging... prolly more like sharing his valentines day story with rest of co-workers...
and u were pissed off because those were ur flowers if he didn't take em... instead he took em to his gf and made her night... when it should have been u?
from reading this thread u seem just bitter... and im not picking on u here!!! jus incase... im defending him though for sure!
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2007, 01:55:44 PM
Greg House: "Everybody lies...."
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 02:06:27 PM
and if this dude did lie, this is what u call a "sweet lie" which is ok to do...

there was a time when i was broke as a joke (26yrs old) and had absolutely NO$$$... and it was valentines day.... so i looked under the couch for changes and broke out my change jar.. i cashed it at coin exchange machine and ended up being 20dollars..
i took her out to some shitty chinese restaurant, and acted like i had money for dinner... lol which i really didn't lol... and she knew i was lying about having money... now was she happy or thought i was some brokeass jokester?  well  i'm 33 now and she still my girl :)  she's a pharmacist and make great money of her own.. imo girls with money never care about dudes with money...  she was just happy i made her valentines...
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 02:10:28 PM
well, i saw this and do u actually think his gf asked him, if he paid his own money for it? or do u think she just assumed he paid for them? because why would this girl ask such question?  i would think she was just happy to see flowers... i mean when u get gifts do u always ask if he paid his own money for them? and ask how much he paid?
i've given my gf plenty of gifts and never once she asked me where i got them or if i paid for them.. she was just happy i thought of her... ya know wat i mean?

I said that to avoid giving away too many details about my personal involvement.  I'm not angry in the least.  And the guy who bragged could have just given the flowers to the gf without any explanation at all.  He went out of his way to tell her he paid for them to impress her.  And I think I'm closer to the situation than you are... he was definitely bragging.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: RHINO290 on February 16, 2007, 02:13:43 PM
I said that to avoid giving away too many details about my personal involvement.  I'm not angry in the least.  And the guy who bragged could have just given the flowers to the gf without any explanation at all.  He went out of his way to tell her he paid for them to impress her.  And I think I'm closer to the situation than you are... he was definitely bragging.

No doubt Deedee, the guy is a jerk off. I'm a MAN, I would never do that, then brag about it.....real men don't do  that.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 02:16:38 PM
Trust me when i tell you that is a small thing. I have been lied to about feelings, situations, and so on. A real lie is when someone tells you they love you, and want to be with you, meanwhile, they are telling someone else the same thing. They may call it confusion, I call it lieing(sp?)....

Truth is people lie....and then they rationalize why to accomodate their agenda, such is life.

You don't seem to be having a great time lately.  :'(

Probably everyone's experienced something similar.  You're right, flowers is meaningless next to something like that. Sometimes though, people really are confused and say or do things they normally wouldn't. We've probably all done that at some point. Don't you have some behavior you look back on, and feel ashamed at the way you treated someone?

I hope you feel better about this soon. Maybe just don't be jumping into something right away when you still feel like this or you'll end up doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 16, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
It's just sad, and now I am angry. I meet her, she has a lousy husband, leaves him for me, then runs back to him.....

I can understand all that, but the way it was done, just being dumped off, like a piece of trash, really hurt.....Then to be made the subject, as to say "how dare you be mad at me for dumping you, and ignoring you, and lieing to you, I'm not sure now I would want to be with you"!

Bottom line, her husband will never change, and she will come back to me, but i'm not sure I would ever trust her again....too many lies.

btw, to have this done to you, 4 times.......
damn man i used to love screwing married women, they're awesome, they're horny and they don't want anything from you other than sex.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 16, 2007, 02:34:03 PM
You always know how to cheer me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha, i'm sorry big man, did this just happen, Jack?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 02:37:11 PM
ok... if he went out of his way to lie that he actually paid for them... lol wow... yes, not only his sweeliar but a  complete LOSER imo...if i was him, i would have kept my mouth shut!

but thats if he really said that... that is pretty low thing to do to impress a girl...

Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 02:47:23 PM
damn man i used to love screwing married women, they're awesome, they're horny and they don't want anything from you other than sex.

You're always the romantic.  :-\
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 16, 2007, 02:50:08 PM
ok... if he went out of his way to lie that he actually paid for them... lol wow... yes, not only his sweeliar but a  complete LOSER imo...if i was him, i would have kept my mouth shut!

but thats if he really said that... that is pretty low thing to do to impress a girl...



The story you told before about being poor is not the same at all. You used your last pennies to take that girl out. Anyone would appreciate that.  :)

Uch, who knows what this kid really said.  Maybe what he told us was just a lie too, and he got nothing.  ;D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 16, 2007, 02:53:26 PM
You're always the romantic.  :-\

He may not be romantic, but is telling the truth... to an extent.

If you're married and you go elsewhere, you're probably just trying to get some... Something at home is missing, so you're out searching for it... it's usually found in a bed somewhere.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: The Squadfather on February 16, 2007, 02:53:50 PM
Yes, as we speak......
that sucks man, i'd hate for that to happen to me, i hope you don't take my comment earlier to heart, i'm a changed man these days, don't let it affect your prep too much, look at it this way it's good that you know so you can get another woman, there's plenty of good chicks out there, you're a pro bodybuilder, make them come to you, a lot of girls would kill to snag a pro bodybuilder who's as successful in the financial world as you.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 03:12:04 PM
The story you told before about being poor is not the same at all. You used your last pennies to take that girl out. Anyone would appreciate that.  :)

Uch, who knows what this kid really said.  Maybe what he told us was just a lie too, and he got nothing.  ;D

woo... dee let's not say "poor"  becasue poor is permanent and being broke is temp...  :) and i was broke not poor ... lol
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Cap on February 16, 2007, 03:14:55 PM
All I can say is



Wow
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: arigato on February 16, 2007, 03:33:16 PM
some ppl are like used-cars... they might look nice at first but u gotta realize someone else beat on that car b4 u... possible few!!! and will always have problems... thats why i never bother with used anymore... what for? plenty of cheap brandnew cars out there that will never give me problems.. :) and i can modify it any way i want to0` ;)  and if im dealing with something used, i always make sure it works 100% before owning.. u feel me rhino?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: 24KT on February 17, 2007, 01:59:21 AM
Rhino, Babydoc,
Sorry things aren't what you would want them to be. But PLEASE, take it offline. (For you not me)


DeeDee,
when I worked at the brokerage firm, all the girls in the office would get hit on left, right, and centre.
We always had candidates sending us flowers. Sometimes, we would let others take them. we had one guy would would regularly bring the flowers home to his girlfriend but always told them where he got them from. One time, another guy took them, but he told his girlfriend how he bought them... the goof left the card in the box, and she found it. Hahahaha. It didn't go over very well.

ps - I have to confess a little lie. One time when I got a dozen roses sent to me at my office. Even tho there was no card, I knew who sent them, ...and I knew it wasn't my bf. When I got home that night, I showered my bf in kisses, and made a big deal about the roses he sent me (He lived in the same condo) ...and how much I appreciated his thoughtfulness, and how sweet he was to send them. {giggle} I knew he hadn't sent them, ...and he admitted he didn't. But I couldn't resist the gentle reminder for him to watch his ass.  ;D  Does that make me a horrible person?  :P
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Playboy on February 17, 2007, 06:01:14 AM
Roses are also 50 bucks at a florist for a dozen. 50 bucks is nothing. When people go out and hit a lounge or a bar every friday and saturday night they spend in excess of 100 bucks on both nights.

PB
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 08:19:20 AM
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and he admitted he didn't. But I couldn't resist the gentle reminder for him to watch his ass.    Does that make me a horrible person?

the best way to keep your loved 1 in check is to let em know you r in demand!


you aren't a horrible person...


but you aren't good either  ;D  ..except..thats not a bad thing! :D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: gtbro1 on February 17, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
  I don't think a person should be judged by the amount of money they spend on their significant other.If he lied then that was wrong...but....why would she have asked him how much he spent? (if that was the lie) or why would she have asked him if he bought them? When someone gives you something,especially on Valentines Day,it is sort of a "given" that they purchased it.I am not defending the guy for being a schmoe because I would never do what he did,however,I don't think it means he cannot be trusted.

    It is the thought that counts....after all, he didn't HAVE to re-gift her anything at all. ;D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 08:42:41 AM
the other side of the coin is true also,

true..
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 08:44:05 AM
n oh..i have bought flowers on ocassion from the man selling em at the traffic light..

my girl appreciated em..

for me at least..it really is the thought that counts..
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Princess L on February 17, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
I think you missed the whole story. Maybe you should read the thread again. But here's the summary: Some guy brought flowers to the office, I didn't want them, it isn't appropriate to accept gifts from outside suppliers and so I gave them to the kid from another floor
 

In this whole scenario, it doesn't sound like the supplier got the message  ;)


He lied to his girlfriend about where he got them... told her he bought them, then bragged to us the next day about how well they worked for him.

He set the bar.  Now he has to live with it.  She'll find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: 24KT on February 17, 2007, 10:30:37 PM
{LOL} Cue the Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond duet.  ;D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: BuffGoddess on February 17, 2007, 11:58:36 PM
All of the guys that replied to this SUCK!!! Can you take off your caveman ways for a minute and act like 20th Century enlightened males? Some women want the flowers and candy, others want emotional support and someone who will be there through the rough times. The cheap men are the ones who will cheat on you and expect you to support them. The enlightened males will at least TRY to have a well paying job, and show an ability to provide for a wife emotionally and financially.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:01:33 AM
All of the guys that replied to this SUCK!!! Can you take off your caveman ways for a minute and act like 20th Century enlightened males? Some women want the flowers and candy, others want emotional support and someone who will be there through the rough times. The cheap men are the ones who will cheat on you and expect you to support them. The enlightened males will at least TRY to have a well paying job, and show an ability to provide for a wife emotionally and financially.

Something tells me you didn't read all of the replies.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: BuffGoddess on February 18, 2007, 12:10:21 AM
You're right I didn't read all of them...I didn't want to go postal on my computer...I'm a dieting bodybuilder 8 weeks out, I get a free pass when sticking up for the girls...
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 12:11:48 AM
You're right I didn't read all of them...I didn't want to go postal on my computer...I'm a dieting bodybuilder 8 weeks out, I get a free pass when sticking up for the girls...

Trust me when I say, everyone did not condone being a cheap lying scuzzball.
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 18, 2007, 07:08:46 AM

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\

There's actually a pretty fine line here.

Had you offered him the flowers, it would've been somewhat understandable,  but he went out of his way to ask for them. That's what makes him cheap, as well as shameless. The bragging part makes him a jackass.

If I were you, I would shoot this guy and throw him in a ditch. He's a disgrace to himself, his family and society as a whole. ;)

Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Deedee on February 18, 2007, 07:14:34 AM
There's actually a pretty fine line here.

Had you offered him the flowers, it would've been somewhat understandable,  but he went out of his way to ask for them. That's what makes him cheap, as well as shameless. The bragging part makes him an jackass.

If I were you, I would shoot this guy and throw him in a ditch. He's a disgrace to himself, his family and society as a whole. ;)



Thank you.  :)  So far, the relentless teasing (from the other guys... I would never do such a thing) will probably do wonders as far as peer group pressure goes... to make him change his errant ways.

Very interesting though, to get the points of view of women versus men on this thread.  :P
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: gtbro1 on February 18, 2007, 11:23:57 PM
All of the guys that replied to this SUCK!!! Can you take off your caveman ways for a minute and act like 20th Century enlightened males? Some women want the flowers and candy, others want emotional support and someone who will be there through the rough times. The cheap men are the ones who will cheat on you and expect you to support them. The enlightened males will at least TRY to have a well paying job, and show an ability to provide for a wife emotionally and financially.

  WHATEVER. I have never cheated on a woman and I have never let them pay their own way on any date,much less pay for me or support me. ::) But what makes the difference whether he bought her flowers or got them from the office.He still thought of her,didn't he? Bragging about it makes him look like a jackass though,as someone else said.For the record I wouldn't have done what he did because it is cheap...I just don't think
cheap= untrustworthy.

    A guy I work with got his girl silk flowers.He said that way they will last.  :-\  I know it is the thought that counts,but to me that says "schmoe". What do you ladies think about that?
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Laura Lee on February 19, 2007, 03:35:50 AM
I think there's a difference between being frugal/wise with cash and being cheap.

That having been said, here's what happened yesterday.  A supplier came in with a huge bouquet of flowers which he dumped on my desk, but technically they were for everyone. (I'm the only female)  I put them out in the main area, but the guys complained that they "smelled" so I brought them back to my desk.  All of this back and forth attracted the attention of a really junior guy who is basically a schlepper, but he makes decent money and lives at home, so doesn't really have any financial obligations. He wanted to take them to give to his girlfriend.  None of us really wanted them, so we said sure...

Today he's all smiles and walking around with his pecs stuck out because his girlfriend went out of her way to "appreciate" him on V-Day, since she was under the impression that he spent well over $100 on flowers for her.  He told us he lied, and finds nothing wrong with that.

I find this the height of cheap.  And if he's willing to lie to save a few bucks, what else will he be willing to lie about?  I think people who are cheap with money, are also cheap when it comes to affairs of the heart.  Am I wrong?  :-\
You should have said "Well I hope you removed the little card that says: To the staff of 'insert your company name here' for a wonderful year and continued success, from 'insert suppliers name here'. 

Can you imagine his face?  THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNNY!!!  :D
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: Wombat on March 15, 2007, 09:22:10 PM
The only thing this guy did what was wrong was tell you people at work that he did this to his girl..He will be a guy who ends up learning the hard way that he should keep his trap shut...Now if someone from his work bumps into his girlfriend, they just may ask her if she like the flowers...And then spill the beans on where they came from...Of course in a subtle way...

oh and by the way.  You can trust a cheap man but never i repeat never trust a man who doesn't like beer...
Title: Re: Can cheap men be trusted?
Post by: trab on March 16, 2007, 08:14:13 PM
The Lie just sets him up for her finding out and being Real PISSED, and not trusting him (and she shouldn't).
If you just walk in and down play the FREE flowers, and tell the truth, then help her set 'em up, you still get points ;).
But, Get caught lieN >:(.

Throwin' cash in the trash, and smart money handling are 2 way different things alltogether.
It's a personal thing. Everyones on a different budget. Those who cant add and subtract (Oh there's lots) just dig their own hole.  The trendy developments by me are full of couples having a tough time right now with too much house, and other goodies.  Being realistic is just smart. Esp now; the US economy is a bit precarious if nobody's noticed.