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Title: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 06:42:16 AM
Goal - May 2, 2009 Canton Invitational
Currently:
6'2, 168, and prob 8-9 % bf......I'll use this as a tool for dietary and training advice and to also track my cals so yo guys know I'm not fooling around......

I've had some assistance from Davie, 210 and a few others....thanks!   Currently on an HRT dose of 200mg which I've upped to 300mg to help me with the cals......


30 years old -

Goal - to compete in 2 years, keep my bf low, bulk to 225 eventually but 200 is my current goal:  Would love to be there again:

Here's my training style
Monday - chest/calves (Bench str8 bar)
Tuesday - Back - heavy low rep deads, from 6 inches off the ground.  Easier on the back, more feel.....
Wednesday - Delts - emphasis on standing oh press
Thursday - Chest - all dumbell movements
Friday - Aux day or off day - listen to my body - deads from the floor no wraps, hang cleans, Neck Bench or speed bench, str8 bar rows all 5 sets of 6, rows 3 sets of 8
Sat - arms or off day - 30 minutes cardio (sometime during the week if not here - moderate, once a week)
Sunday - Legs - squats 5x5 and heavy stiff leg deads, no lockout, just above the knee......

Cardio used to be 20 minutes 7x a week prework...nixed it.......trying to stay lean.  #1 goal.......Trainer (actually my buddy who is assisting me and competes) says no cardio at all......wants my cals up and wants me to GROW......please help me.

Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 06:45:58 AM
My Diet - feel free to post any suggestions, weight is moving 2-3lbs a week, 2 weeks in..........thinking of starting a true cycle...just to get me up in weight...very skinny n weak!

wake at 630 - bcaas, shower, drive to office etc.
                            
730          PRO        CARB        FAT       
1/2 CUP OATS          5.00        27.00        3.00        150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS           18.00        -          -          225.00
2 EGG WHITES          6.00        1.00        1.00        80.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin          4.00        30.00        3.00        160.00
                                     
          34.50        88.00        8.40        740.00

                           
10                           
3oz Flank Steak          21.00        -          3.75        135.00
4oz Buffalo         36                 3.00       180   
1  brown rice          3.00        45.00        3.00        210.00
          60.00        45.00        9.75        525.00


                           
1pm                           
5oz chicken          33.75        -          3.13        162.50
1 CUP OATS          10.00        54.00        6.00        300.00
          43.75        54.00        9.13        462.50


TRAIN 3PMS                           
SIP ON GATORADE 16OZ WIT BCAAS          -          55.00         -      #REF!    200.00

                           
600ISH                           
2 PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        175.00
SALAD          2.00        30.00        3.00        200.00
can on tuna          43.00        -          2.00        280.00
                           

          45.00    0    30.00          5.00    0    480.00
7PM                           
2 TB PB          9.20        60.00        4.00        320.00
2PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        175.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00

          13.70        120.00     -       8.40     -       620.00
900                           
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS          12.00        1.00        -          65.00
20 almonds          10.00        10.00        18.00        200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND          20.00        5.00        2.00        120.00
          42.00        16.00    0    20.00    0    385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON                           
                           
          238.95     -       408.00    #VALUE!    60.68    #REF!    3,412.50

many days wake up at midnight and 2am....midnight usually cottage cheese and veggies
2am sometimes a muscle milk shake
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 06:46:55 AM
I got over 10 cases of bars from last years arnold...wonder if I should drink more shakes throughout the day or pound the bars....also, trainer advised 2 cheat meals a week....havent cheated in years!!!!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 06:50:52 AM
last weeks Monday routine....goal is to increase weight by 2-5lbs and or 1 rep on all big lifts (i.e. bench, deads, squat) each week.....chest routine is 2x a week all 5x5, then the 2nd day (thursday, last set is mulitplied by 1.02 and 3 reps are attempted.....then that becomes the following Mondays last set of 5x5....
**Will update after pm training sesion**


Monday March 12, 2007                  
PM wt 166                  
                  
INCLINEdbell                  
135x12      12   6         
145x8      8   6         
180x7-8      8            
165x4   DROP   4            
150x5      3            
140x6      4            
                  
FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                  
0X15                  
95   0.5               
 115.00    0.6   5            
 125.00    0.7   5            
 145.00    0.8   5            
 165.00    0.9   5            
 185.00    1.02   3            
 sb les                    
                   
PECK DECKS                  
135x12      12            
135+x10      10            
135+x10      10            
150x9   DROP   9            
135x6      4            
125x6      4            
                  
flt fly                  
40x12      10            
40x10      10            
45x10      10            
45x8      10            
                  
DECLINE BURNOUT                  
155x10      10            
165x8      8            
175x6 - barely      6            
                     
Seated Angled Calf-raise:                  
45+20x10                  
45x+25x10                  
45x25x25x5                  
45+25x10   45+10x10                  
Standing Calf-raise:                  
180x10                  
280x10                   
360x5                  
280x5                  
180x10                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 06:53:05 AM
 :o

1st two are this past weekend.....last one is from December........
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 19, 2007, 11:13:59 AM
What state is the show being held in?

at what weight are you planning to compete at?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 11:21:59 AM
Canton/Columbus Ohio.....lets worry about that when I get there.....I need some serious help first!!  2 years is a loooooooong time to stick this diet out, keep increasing cals and to stay off the treadmill....


I don't care about getting stronger so I have no strength goals....just wanna look good naked!

I dont care if I can squat bench or dead four plates as long as I look like I can......eh?  3 meals down, time to go train then come back here to the office....I'll post when I get back bout 6ish........
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 19, 2007, 11:50:15 AM
Canton/Columbus Ohio.....lets worry about that when I get there.....I need some serious help first!!  2 years is a loooooooong time to stick this diet out, keep increasing cals and to stay off the treadmill....


I don't care about getting stronger so I have no strength goals....just wanna look good naked!

I dont care if I can squat bench or dead four plates as long as I look like I can......eh?  3 meals down, time to go train then come back here to the office....I'll post when I get back bout 6ish........

Ohio? Well, I'll put this out there right now. If you can get your head together & start listening to others - I'll go down the Ohio & see the show. This is provided I still live in Michigan at the time of the show.

I'm glad you're not worried about strength. Just focus on moving the weights & staying healthy. Leave your ego at the door of the gym.

Don't try to remain on a "diet" for two years. That's way too long & you need cheat a little here & there. Remember the good/bad foods.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 02:51:24 PM
EVERYONE WILL BE there...plus ill pay
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Monday March 17, 2007                  
PM wt 166                  
** shitty session - weighed in really heavy for me at 170......thought about it the tntire time.  FIrst time in awhile I didnt increase weight or reps**  DId't have it...too much delt and chest work....next week....full week off...just abs and cardio.

                  
INCLINE barbell                  
145x8                  
150x7-8                  
150x7-8                  
165x4-5   DROP               
155x5                  
145x6                  
                  
FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                  
0X15                  
95x5   0.5               
115x5   0.6   5            
135x5   0.7   5            
155x5   0.8   5            
185x4-5   0.9   4-5            
190x3   1   3            
 165x5       4            
155x6
205 x 0  failed.....3.4 way up if failure.   

            
PECK DECKS                  
135x12                  
135+x10                  
135+x10                  
150x9   DROP               
135x6                  
125x6                  
                  
flt fly                  
45x12                  
45x12                  
50x10                  
50x10                  
                  
DECLINE BURNOUT                  
160x10      10            
170x7-8      8            
180x5      6            
                     
Seated Angled Calf-raise:                  
45+25x10                  
45x+25+10x10                  
45x35x25x5                  
                  
45+25x10   45+10x10                  
                  
Standing Calf-raise:                  
220x10                  
320x10                   
STACKx5                  
220x10                  
320x10                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 19, 2007, 03:42:21 PM
todays macros with 1-2 meals left....small....prebed and maybe one at midnight

 243.95     -       328.25    #VALUE!    58.18    #REF!    2,905.00


D+    SUCKS!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 20, 2007, 04:43:47 AM
Big Back Day!                            
  Last weekes rotuine...need to increase by 5!!!!

TUESDAY March 13 2007                                    
      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2      SET 3
str8 rows      95x12      115x10      135x8  140      140x8   145   145x8   150   125x10 135   
                                    
                                    
DEADS       0x8        135x5       265x5   275   290x4 295                     
                                    
                                    
v barLAT PULLDOWN       140x8        140x8        160x3-4 - too  hvy        130x4        110x8       
       same                               
                                    
Dbell row (high) bench      75x8   80   85x8   90   95x4 100      75x5 80            
                                    
                                    
Wide pulls       150x12           150x12+        150++x10           170x10                
       same                               
                                    new goals in red - #1 goal UP CALS!!!!!!!  Come on......cardio tomorrow morning?  Only have one saturday 30 min session this week pretraining.....need some more....agreed?
                                    
                                    
                                    
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 20, 2007, 03:07:43 PM
      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2      SET 3   
str8 rows      115x12      135x10      140x8      145x8   15   155x7-8      135x10   
                                       
                                       
DEADS       0x8        135x5       275x5      295x3.5 --<  dropped wait 15 seconds, 2 more……               
                                         
                                       
underhand pulldown       80x12        100x10        110x8        120x6        130x5        90x12    
                                          
                                       
Dbell row (high) bench      80x8      90x8      100x4      90x6               
                                           
                                       
Wide pulls       150+x10           150++x12        170x10           170+x10                   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 20, 2007, 03:09:28 PM
toodays meals.....slacking...... .


bcaasa
1/2 CUP OATS   
1 CUP EGG BEATERS    
 1 banana   
2 pcs toast or englis muffin   
   
   
   
10   
3oz Flank Steak   
4oz Buffalo   
.75 cup  brown rice   
   
   
1pm   
6oz chicken   
.75 CUP OATS   

2 PCS TOAST   
SALAD   
can on tuna   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 20, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
strength is leveling out.  scsle is bout ssme as last week just losing abs prob due to water   ret. from cypionate.  is  this norml.  msy need more fats n csrbs.  most of my fat intake is from 9pm to midnight.  2 shskes.  1 with muscke milk at 1am and 1 at 9pm  ptebed almonds.   time to add pb n a nans in 1st meal?    not sure why the lack of energy during 3pm training.  thoughtdd  to ponder.  3 pretraining meals need a kick in the shorts.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 21, 2007, 05:58:25 AM
last week's routine...delts!

WEDNESDAY 3/14/2007                                          
PM WT 165LBS                                          
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
STANDING OH PRESS       0X15     6.00     80x10        105x4,80x5        105x4,80x5        90x8x2                   
                                                
Rear Delts       30x12        30x12        35x12        35x12                      
                                          
Rope UPRIGHT ROWS                   70x12        80x12        90x10                   
                                          
side lats       15x12        20x12        25x10        25x10                   
                                          
barbell front lats       bar x 12        2.5x12        x+5x12        +7.5x12                          
                                              
Arnolds      30x12      35x10      40x8      40x8+5                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 21, 2007, 03:23:37 PM
last week's routine...delts!

WEDNESDAY 3/14/2007                                          
PM WT 165LBS                                          
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
STANDING OH PRESS       0X15     6.00     80x10        105x4,80x5        105x4,80x5        90x8x2                   
                                                
Rear Delts       30x12        30x12        35x12        35x12                      
                                          
Rope UPRIGHT ROWS                   70x12        80x12        90x10                   
                                          
side lats       15x12        20x12        25x10        25x10                   
                                          
barbell front lats       bar x 12        2.5x12        x+5x12        +7.5x12                          
                                              
Arnolds      30x12      35x10      40x8      40x8+5                  


this weeks numbers...great session:  tad long........


      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
Seated BN OH PRESS       0X15           85x10        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        95x8     95x10       
                                                
Rear Delts       35x12        35x12        40x12        =-----all standing     3 sets machine superset                
                                          
Rope UPRIGHT ROWS                   75x12        85x12        95x12                   
                                          
side lats       20x12        25x12        25x12        30x12 <- 1 arms                   
                                          
seated dbell front lats       20x12        20x12        20x12                                   
                                              
Arnolds      35x11      40x8      50x10      55x10      60x6+            
                   cuf started to really hurt, switch after the 40's to reg seated dbell press                         
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 22, 2007, 06:05:06 AM
Chest today....thinking of using some ideas posting on this board and give the SMith machine a shot........March 1st this was my routine........hope I can beat those numbers.....


Smith INCLINEdbell   
145x10   
150x10   
155x8   
170x5   
180x4   
175x5   
155x8   
   
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)   
30x6   40x6
40x6   50x6
50x6   60x6
80x5   85x5
75x6   75x6
70x6   70x6
65x8    65x8
   
   
   
PECK DECKS   
135x12   
135+x10   
135+x10   
150x9   DROP
135x6   
125x6   
   
flt fly   
45x12   
45x12   
50x10   
50x10   
   
DECLINE BURNOUT   
160x8   
170x6   
175x6   
185x5   
160x6   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 22, 2007, 03:22:11 PM
THURSDAY MARCH 22, 2007
**THIS WEEK VS. LAST WEEK**  (THIS WEEK BOLD)
Smith INCLINE 
145x10   155x10
150x10   165x8
155x8   170x6-7170x5   185x5-6180x4   175x5-6175x5   165x7-8155x8   155x8
   145x10
   
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)   
30x6   40x6
40x6   50x6
50x6   60x6
80x5   85x5+1
75x6   75x6-7
70x6   70x8
65x8    65x10    
   
   
PECK DECKS   
135x12   
135+x10   
135+x10   
150x9   DROP
135x6   
125x6   
   
flt fly   
45x12   
45x12   
inc fly   
35x12   
35x12   
   
DECLINE BURNOUT   
175x6   
185x5 1/2 + 1/2   
170x6   
165x8   
155x9-10   
155x10   



WEIGHT IS STILL THE SAME - FEEL BLOATED FROM ALL THE CALS, NO CARDIO, WEIGHT INCREASES EVERY WEEK!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: AVBG on March 22, 2007, 03:23:31 PM
goodluck Lou!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 23, 2007, 06:02:05 AM
thnx
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 23, 2007, 06:04:19 AM
Friday March 23rd 2007

goals in bold...230pm training time.  will update

*note was suppose to be delt day as I train delts 2x a week typically, but felt like they were fried and wanted to incorpate a good mass shock*

DEADLIFTS
225X6X5 - *NICE SMOOTH FROM FLOOR SLOW PACE, FEEL ENTIRE MOVEMENT, FIRST TIME NOT USING ANY STRAPS, AMAZING HOW MUCH THEY HELP NOT JUST THE GRIP BUT ACTUAL LIFT*
230
BENCH
135X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 145X8X2
145
SEATED BNP
95X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP
105
HANG CLEANS *had to use straps, really felt the pain in my left foreawrm and bis.......weight felt light, but pain was rough to get through**
95x6x5
100
STRAIGH BAR ROWS
135X8X3 - *SMOOTH, ALMOST PENDLY ROW, LITTLE HIGHER THAN 90 DEGREES, NICE SMOOTH CONTRACTION*
140

ABS WORK
STRETCHING
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 23, 2007, 09:04:06 AM
SEATED BNP
95X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP

I'm assuming you mean behind the neck press. How low do you go. I always stop when my upper arms are parallel to the floor. I've read it's better on the shoulders. Just curious.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 23, 2007, 10:39:29 AM
traps.............
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 23, 2007, 03:04:39 PM
Friday March 23rd 2007

goals in bold...230pm training time. will update

*note was suppose to be delt day as I train delts 2x a week typically, but felt like they were fried and wanted to incorpate a good mass shock*

DEADLIFTS
230X6X5 - *NICE SMOOTH FROM FLOOR SLOW PACE, FEEL ENTIRE MOVEMENT, FIRST TIME NOT USING ANY STRAPS, AMAZING HOW MUCH THEY HELP NOT JUST THE GRIP BUT ACTUAL LIFT*
230
BENCH
145X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 155X8X2
145
SEATED BNP
100X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP
105
HANG CLEANS *had to use straps, really felt the pain in my left foreawrm and bis.......weight felt light, but pain was rough to get through**
100x6x5
100
STRAIGH BAR ROWS
140X8X3 - *SMOOTH, ALMOST PENDLY ROW, LITTLE HIGHER THAN 90 DEGREES, NICE SMOOTH CONTRACTION*
140

ABS WORK
STRETCHING
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 23, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
traps.............

That's about where I stop. Any lower & you put too much pressure on the shoulder joints.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 24, 2007, 04:51:15 AM
feel like a fat slug.....suppose to do am cardio 2x a week snd I skipped out.  hsvent done cardio in 4 weeks.  plus I ate hard ladt night n today wikl b moee.....think ill be good holding ogff till 1m  180?  think ill stay ripped on diet alone?  at 170   I prob shldnt even considetlr cardio.  plus I train 6x a wrrk when nost do 4 so that's like 2 cardio sessions  agrreed?.

abyone do none?  trst will keep my bg down with out........save it  for precintests?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 26, 2007, 03:25:07 PM
Monday March 26, 2007                  
PM wt 1764   up 4 lbs                  
2nd chest day                    
INCLINE barbbell                  
145x9                  
150x8                  
150x8                  
165x4-5   DROP               
155x6                  
145x8                  
                  
FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                  
0X15                  
95   0.5               
115   0.6   5            
135   0.7   5            
155   0.8   5            
185   0.9   5            
190   1   ;2-3            
 165       5            
155      7            
PECK DECKS                  
135x12                  
135+x10                  
135+x10                  
150x9   DROP               
135x6                  
125x6                  
                  
flt fly                  
50x8                  
50x12                  
45x12                  
45x12                  
                  
DECLINE BURNOUT                  
185x4      10            
185x4      8            
190x3      6            
165x9                    
155x10                  
Seated Angled Calf-raise:                  
45+25x10                  
45x+25+10x10                  
45x35x25x5                  
                  
45+25x10   45+10x10                  
                  
Standing Calf-raise:                  
220x10                  
320x10                   
STACKx5                  
220x10                  
320x10                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 26, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
cycle starts Monday and Im not stoppping till I hit 200lbs........under 12% no cardio...want to change routines to reduce volume and gain mass

I want to take 1 figgn day off

npp, tbol and test/eq.........thoughts?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 27, 2007, 06:14:57 AM
last weeks numbers, would love 25x4.........damn!  Lets roll...280x 5 too!


TUESDAY March 20 2007 will edit after pm training..this was last week..would ove to get 4 reps on deads!! 295.....maybe I wont try for 285x 5, keep it at 275 and then ry and hit it....nah...280x 5....I gotta make progress!
WARMUP WARMUP WARMUP SET 1 SET 2 SET 3
str8 rows 115x12 135x10 140x8 145x7-8 150x7-8 135x10


DEADS 0x8 135x5 275x5 295x3 295x2


underhand 80x12 100x10 110x8 120x6 130x5 100x12


Dbell row (high) bench 80x8 90x8 100x4 80x6


Wide pulls 150+x12 150++x12 170x10 170+x10
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 27, 2007, 03:28:24 PM
TUESDAY March 27 2007                                      
      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2      SET 3
str8 rows      115x13      135x10      140x8      145x8      150x8      140x10
                        8      8      
                                    
DEADS       0x8        135x5       280x5      294x3.75       305x2             
                                            
                                    
underhand       80x12        100x10        110x8        120x6        130x5        100x12
                                       
                                    
Dbell row (high) bench      85x8      95x8      100x6      85x6            
                                        
                                    
Wide pulls       150+x12           150++x12        170x10           170+x10                
                                       
   ** deads went up….getting strogner each week which is weird because I havent                                 
   had a good rest day in awhile**  still can't get 295 for 4 sucks…..got 305 twice                                  
   and 280 for 5 but that 295X4 is KILLING ME!!!!!                                 
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 05:54:17 AM
Delts today....last weeks numbers, will try to increase 5 lbs (bold) on lifts..........

WEDNESDAY 3/28/2007                                          
PM WT 172LBS                                          
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
Seated BN OH PRESS       0X15           85x10        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        95x8     95x10       
             90.00        115.00                          100.00     100.00    
Rear Delts       35x12        35x12        40x12        =-----all standing     3 sets machine superset                
       35.00        40.00        40.00                         
Rope UPRIGHT ROWS                   75x12        85x12        95x12                   
                                          
side lats       20x12        25x12        25x12        30x12 <- 1 arms                   
                                          
seated dbell front lats       20x12        20x12        20x12                                   
                                              
High rep dbell press      35x11      40x8      50x10      55x10      60x6+            
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: natural al on March 28, 2007, 09:20:55 AM
Lugs,

since you seem to want to put on mass I was wondering if you've looked into any less "conventional" means of doing this.  By this I mean not you're typical "volume" type of training that you've been doing for a while.  If you go to the AST site the max-ot articles are really good and that program is pretty well explained and put together.  Obviously you're busting your balls and trying real hard I'm just wondering if you're spinning your wheels...I have NOT read everything in your journal but I did scan it and going by the comments you've made in mine I think you might be to some degree.

I'm just wondering if you've looked into other protocols to help you reach your goals.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 10:35:17 AM
which would u reccomend?  Delts for today look ok?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: natural al on March 28, 2007, 10:42:22 AM
which would u reccomend?  Delts for today look ok?

i WOULD suggest reading the max-ot stuff and going from there.  I STILL think you're doing waaaaaaaaay too much volume, it's a totally different mindset than what you have right now.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 10:55:52 AM
Agree......also, by training everyday, I am doing myself no justice.....it's just this mentality I have....I've tried a bizzzzilion different things and I have a great life outside of the gym, but it is like my House of the Lord, my release from work, etc.....when I leave the office I need to go to the gym else I am a grumpy mess........Maybe I'll start DC training when I start my cycle on the first with you as my mentor...I just wish you'd bulk and eat your ass off with me instead of this cardio/cutting shit...I understand your thoughts, and your goals, but I want to compete so badly bro and I am soooo damn small.....6'2 171 and the scale is moving daily (which prob. isnt a good thing).......but I got to get to 230 before I can do anything else......
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: natural al on March 28, 2007, 02:38:00 PM
Agree......also, by training everyday, I am doing myself no justice.....it's just this mentality I have....I've tried a bizzzzilion different things and I have a great life outside of the gym, but it is like my House of the Lord, my release from work, etc.....when I leave the office I need to go to the gym else I am a grumpy mess........Maybe I'll start DC training when I start my cycle on the first with you as my mentor...I just wish you'd bulk and eat your ass off with me instead of this cardio/cutting shit...I understand your thoughts, and your goals, but I want to compete so badly bro and I am soooo damn small.....6'2 171 and the scale is moving daily (which prob. isnt a good thing).......but I got to get to 230 before I can do anything else......

man....I don't know about the mentor thing, I don't want to piss dante off by training someone over the net.  I can point you in the right direction and give you advice on some things but I DON'T think I'm mentor material.

I haven't cut down in along time so this is something I have to do, I've been up to almost 215 at 5'7 and totally natty so it's time to see what I have to offer.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 28, 2007, 02:49:17 PM
npp, tbol and test/eq.........thoughts?

I like it. Simple & it will be effective. How much npp are you going to be taking? Remember it's similiar to prop so you'll have to inject it at least three times a week.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 02:54:12 PM
400npp
40 tbol
600test
eq maybe..........how many cals n cardio?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 03:02:57 PM
WEDNESDAY 3/28/2007                                          
PM WT 175LBS - HEAVIEST IVE BEEN IN 2 YEARS!!!                                          
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
Seated BN OH PRESS       0X15           90x10        115x5 - 90x6        115x5 - 90x6        115x5 - 90x6        100x8     100x8       
                                                            
Rear Delts       35x12        40x12        40x12         ss with machine rears 20 reps, 15, `1     3 sets machine superset                
                                                   
CABLE UPRIGHT ROWS                   100X12        100X12        100X12                   
                                          
leaning 1arm side lats       20x12        25x12        30x12         ss with machine rears 20 reps, 15, 12                   
                                             
seated dbell front lats       20x12        20x12        20x12                                   
                                              
1 arm dbell press to finish      20x15      25x12      30x10      ss with 3 sets machine press      60x6+            
                    cuf started to really hurt, switch after the 40's to reg seated dbell press                         
      AWESOME SESSION - ANOTHER GREAT PUMP QAND BURN AND WEIGHTS ALL MOVING UP                                    
      MINIMUM OF 5LBS……TOMORROW IS CHEST……AND EAT EAT EAT

***  SIDE NOTE - LOSING ABS, AND SCALE HAS GONE UP EVERYDAY…..GETTING FATTER, BUT 4000 CLEAN      
CALS AND ABSOLUTELY NO CARDIO, I GUESS IT HAPPENS……..      
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 28, 2007, 03:07:29 PM
how many cals n cardio?

What do you mean? If you're asking how many calories does cardio burn - it would depend on how much you weigh, how intense, how long, etc.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 28, 2007, 03:09:27 PM
400npp
40 tbol
600test
eq maybe..........

Looks solid. You might want to add the EQ anyway. Even if it's just 200mg a week - when you're bulking the increase in appetite from EQ will help out a lot.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 03:50:21 PM
I'M ALL OVER IT....and cardio what, 1x a week till i'm a good 190lbs.....I feel like shit not doing it but at my size and my competeion goals, I shouldnt be doing it more than that right...just resting, eating, and training heavy>?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 28, 2007, 04:33:08 PM
I'M ALL OVER IT....and cardio what, 1x a week till i'm a good 190lbs.....I feel like shit not doing it but at my size and my competeion goals, I shouldnt be doing it more than that right...just resting, eating, and training heavy>?

Seems about right. However, a little cardio is good for you (just don't over do it).
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 28, 2007, 06:06:47 PM
text post.    I juust want to eat train compete n stay ripped.  will this gear help me do that wo cardio?  3000 cals
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on March 28, 2007, 06:57:11 PM
text post.    I juust want to eat train compete n stay ripped.  will this gear help me do that wo cardio?  3000 cals

Getting ripped & staying ripped is more diet then anything. Tbol will put quality mass on you with little or no bloating. Npp I'm not sure because I've never used it. Since it's fast acting Deca I'd imagine there'd be some water retention. Test will cause some water retention (it'll also depend on what kind of test you're taking). Remember that's just water not fat. It will go away & can be minimized with the proper ancillaries. Also remember that some people are more prone to side effects then others.

Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 29, 2007, 04:56:18 AM
So given my current state, and my current goals of competeing in 2 years, leave cardio out and save the energy for training and precontest?  Does anyone do this.......If I dont stay under 11R% and see abs, I'll turn around....just my mentality.  Unless I am getting stronger...I'd def. trade a little leaness for strength........I should incorporate some days off....lol
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 29, 2007, 03:12:12 PM
THURSDAY MARCH 22, 2007
**THIS WEEK VS. LAST WEEK**  (THIS WEEK BOLD)
Smith INCLINE 
145x10   155x10
150x10   165x8
155x8   170x6-7170x5   185x5-6180x4   175x5-6175x5   165x7-8155x8   155x8
   145x10
   
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)   
30x6   40x6
40x6   50x6
50x6   60x6
80x5   85x5+1
75x6   75x6-7
70x6   70x8
65x8    65x10    
   
   
PECK DECKS   
135x12   
135+x10   
135+x10   
150x9   DROP
135x6   
125x6   
   
flt fly   
45x12   
45x12   
inc fly   
35x12   
35x12   
   
DECLINE BURNOUT   
175x6   
185x5 1/2 + 1/2   
170x6   
165x8   
155x9-10   
155x10   



WEIGHT IS STILL THE SAME - FEEL BLOATED FROM ALL THE CALS, NO CARDIO, WEIGHT INCREASES EVERY WEEK!!!!!!

Last week above……progress?         
THURSDAY - MARCH 29, 2007 - UP ANOTHER LB AND INCREASED SOME LIFTS….gym was empty so I had no spot.         
numbers from last week and the week before arent as accurate as many times I get either a bump from the elbows         
on dbell press, or a small pull on decline….today was all free so I consider even matching last weeks rep         
range an increase, agree?         
176lbs - Feeling pumped, but def. smoothers, fatter, still hard….still some cuts, but this is the "ugly phase"         
         
Smith INCLINE (3rd)         
165x10           
170x7          
185x5-6          
185x6          
175x6          
165x8          
160x8          
150x10           
         
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)         
40x6         
60x6         
80x6 (all solo)         
80x7         
75x7         
70x9         
 65x10          
          
         
         
PECK DECKS         
135x12         
135+x10         
135+x10         
150x9          
135x6         
125x6         
         
flt fly         
45x10-12         
45x12         
         
inc fly         
40x12         
40x12         
         
DECLINE BURNOUT         
175x6         
170x7         
170x7         
165x9         
155x10         
155x10         
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 30, 2007, 05:52:59 AM
Friday March 30th 2007

goals in bold...230pm training time.  will update

*note was suppose to be delt day as I train delts 2x a week typically, but felt like they were fried and wanted to incorpate a good mass shock*

DEADLIFTS
230X6X5 - *NICE SMOOTH FROM FLOOR SLOW PACE, FEEL ENTIRE MOVEMENT, FIRST TIME NOT USING ANY STRAPS, AMAZING HOW MUCH THEY HELP NOT JUST THE GRIP BUT ACTUAL LIFT*
235
BENCH
145X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 155X7-8X2
150
Standing  BNP
105X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP
110

Squats 145x6x5
STRAIGH BAR ROWS
140X8X3 - *SMOOTH, ALMOST PENDLY ROW, LITTLE HIGHER THAN 90 DEGREES, NICE SMOOTH CONTRACTION*
145

ABS WORK
STRETCHING
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: natural al on March 30, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
looks good.... :P :P
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 30, 2007, 11:13:55 AM
thanks haus!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on March 30, 2007, 03:11:25 PM
Friday March 30th 2007

 

DEADLIFTS
235X6X5 -  SMOOTH

BENCH
150X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 155X8X2

STANDING PRESS
95X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP

SUMO WIDDDDDE SQUATS 
135x8x5

STRAIGH BAR ROWS
145X8X1 -  REALLY BOTHERED BICEP, MOVED TO ROW MACHINE, 90, 110, 150 ALL 15 REPS DEEP STATIC HOLD

ABS WORK
STRETCHING

Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 06:10:50 AM
730          PRO        CARB        FAT       
1/2 CUP OATS          5.00        27.00        3.00        150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS           18.00        -          -          225.00
2 EGG WHITES          6.00        1.00        1.00        80.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin          4.00        30.00        3.00        160.00
                                     
          34.50        88.00        8.40        740.00
                           
10                           
3oz Flank Steak          21.00        -          3.75        135.00
4oz Buffalo         36                 3.00       180   
1 cp brown rice          3.00        45.00        3.00        210.00
          60.00        45.00        9.75        525.00
                           
1pm                           
5oz chicken          33.75        -          3.13        162.50
1 CUP OATS          10.00        54.00        6.00        300.00
          43.75        54.00        9.13        462.50
TRAIN 3PMS                           
sip of extend          -          -           -      #REF!    -   
                           
600ISH                           
2 PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        125.00
SALAD          2.00        30.00        3.00        150.00
can on tuna          43.00        -          2.00        150.00
                           
          45.00    0    30.00          5.00    0    300.00
7PM                           
2 TB PB          9.20        60.00        4.00        320.00
2PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        175.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
          13.70        120.00     -       8.40     -       620.00
900                           
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS          12.00        1.00        -          65.00
20 almonds          10.00        10.00        18.00        200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND          20.00        5.00        2.00        120.00
          42.00        16.00    0    20.00    0    385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON                           
                           
          238.95     -       353.00    #VALUE!    60.68    #REF!    3,032.50
         31.52%      46.56%    0.39    18.01%      
                           
          955.80        1,412.00    0    546.08       
          1,181.60        1,181.60        590.80        2,954.00
          942.65     -       828.60    #VALUE!    530.13        (78.50)
          0.32        0.47        0.18       
          275.00        325.00        40.00       
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 06:11:43 AM
SUNDAYApril 1, 2007 (LEGS)                                           
      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2               
SQUATS       0x10        140x10        150x8           165x6           165x5     155x6     145x8     140x10
                                       
RV Hack Machine      1+10x15      1+25x12       1+35x10       2plx10       2pl+10*9-10            
                                        
                                        
Close Stance Squats       95x12        105x10        115x10        135x6                   
                                        
Add Machine       130x25        140x20x        150x15                            
                                       
Abb Macine       100x20        100x20        100x20                      
                                       
Leg Ext       165x12        165x12        165x12                      
       not heavy but very slow negatives              paritals                      
Leg Curl       70+x12        70+++x10        90+x10                            
                                                   
   Weak, but good workout…………..                                    
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 06:14:35 AM
cycle starts Monday and Im not stoppping till I hit 200lbs........under 12% no cardio...want to change routines to reduce volume and gain mass

I want to take 1 figgn day off

npp, tbol and test/eq.........thoughts?

Well, I have decided to stay on hrt at 250mg right now for one reason..........I went to do my 1x aweek cardio, and stepped on the scale after 2 meals and full sweats at 170....I think I'm prob under 8%, but my diet needs cranked up....I still have yet to have those banaa....I need to be 180 minimum before I start....agreed?  That way I can get to 200 on cyxle.........
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 06:16:09 AM
chest today - this is last weeks' routine...what would you change, so I an finally ceat my old numbers....I have yet to get 190 for a clean 2-3......sucks.....lil help?



Monday March 26, 2007                  
PM wt 1764   up 4 lbs                  
2nd chest day                    
INCLINE barbbell                  
145x9                  
150x8                  
150x8                  
165x4-5   DROP               
155x6                  
145x8                  
                  
FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                  
0X15                  
95   0.5               
115   0.6   5            
135   0.7   5            
155   0.8   5            
185   0.9   5            
190   1   ;2-3            
 165       5            
155      7            
PECK DECKS                  
135x12                  
135+x10                  
135+x10                  
150x9   DROP               
135x6                  
125x6                  
                  
flt fly                  
50x8                  
50x12                  
45x12                  
45x12                  
                  
DECLINE BURNOUT                  
185x4      10            
185x4      8            
190x3      6            
165x9                    
155x10                  
Seated Angled Calf-raise:                  
45+25x10                  
45x+25+10x10                  
45x35x25x5                  
                  
45+25x10   45+10x10                  
                  
Standing Calf-raise:                  
220x10                  
320x10                   
STACKx5                  
220x10                  
320x10                  

Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 11:21:16 AM
Going to do some lighter higher rep incline dbell work after flat bench today.....save smith machine for thursdays............

INCLINE Dbell (higher rep, less weight)         
x10-12                 
x10-12           
x10-12                 
x10-12               
x10-12                 
                 
FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                 
0X15                 
95   0.5               
115   0.6   5           
135   0.7   5           
155   0.8   5           
185   0.9   5           
190   1   ;2-3           
 165       5           
155      7           

PECK DECKS                 
135x12                 
135+x10                 
135+x10                 
150x9   DROP               
135x6                 
125x6                 
                 
flt fly                 
50x8                 
50x12                 
45x12                 
45x12                 
                 
DECLINE BURNOUT                 
185x4      10           
185x4      8           
190x3      6           
165x9                   
155x10                 


Seated Angled Calf-raise:                 
45+25x10                 
45x+25+10x10                 
45x35x25x5                 
                 
45+25x10   45+10x10                 
                 
Standing Calf-raise:                 
220x10                 
320x10                   
STACKx5                 
220x10                 
320x10   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 02, 2007, 03:10:34 PM
FEEL LIKE PISS TODAY - FAT BLOATED AND SCALE IS UP 5LBS……JUST FEEL BLAH      
ABS LOOK BLURR - DEPRESSED, NEED A GOOD ASS KICKIN BEFORE I TURN BACK……STILL EATING, NO CARDIO, JUST FEELING FAT….      
ANYWAYS, ON WITH THE SHOW : APRIL 2, 2007 PM WT 176LBS……      
INCLINE Dbell (higher rep, less weight)                
   55   x12
   55   x12
   60   10
   60   10
   60   10
                        
(Smitty Spot)FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                        
0X15                        

115x5      
135x5      
155x5      
185x5
190x5
205x3+
175x6---->165x8

PECK DECKS                 
135x12                 
135+x10                 
135+x10                 
 
flt fly                 
50x10               
50x10               

incline fly
45x13
45x13


                 
DECLINE BURNOUT                 
155x8
165x8'
175x6
175x6
165x8
155x10

Seated Angled Calf-raise:                 
45+25x10                 
45x+25+10x10                 
45x35x25x5                 
                 
45+25x10   45+10x10                 
                 
Standing Calf-raise:                 
220x10                 
320x10                   
STACKx5                 
220x10                 
320x10   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 03, 2007, 03:08:56 PM
                                       
DO ME A FAVOR AND PAN BACK THROUGH MY LOG, WOULD YOU SAY I GOT STRONGER FROM LAST WORKOUT?                                       

TUESDAY APRIL 2007                                         
      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2      SET 3   
Long Cable Rows      100x15      120x10      140x10      160x8      160x8      170x6-8   
                                       
                                       
RACK DEADSDEADS       0x8        135x5       225x8      245x8       260x6           280x6 (rest pausie single)    
                                        
                                       
underhand       80x12        100x10        110x8        120x6        130x5        100x12    
                                          
                                       
Dbell row (high) bench      85x10      95x10      100x8      85x10               
                                       
                                    
Wide pulls       150++x12           170+x10        170++X10                            
                                       
pullovers        100X15      110X12      120X10                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 04, 2007, 06:08:26 AM
Delts today....last weeks numbers, will try to increase 5 lbs (bold) on lifts..........

WEDNESDAY 3/28/2007                                          
PM WT 172LBS                                          
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
Seated BN OH PRESS       0X15           85x10        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        110x5 - 85x6        95x8     95x10       
             90.00        115.00                          100.00     100.00    
Rear Delts       35x12        35x12        40x12        =-----all standing     3 sets machine superset                
       35.00        40.00        40.00                         
Rope UPRIGHT ROWS                   75x12        85x12        95x12                   
                                          
side lats       20x12        25x12        25x12        30x12 <- 1 arms                   
                                          
seated dbell front lats       20x12        20x12        20x12                                   
                                              
High rep dbell press      35x11      40x8      50x10      55x10      60x6+            



Delts today!   I was thinking of incorpoating some ideas from here (i.e. the SMith machine) but I feel like I cant gain mass on the SMith....thoughts??
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 04, 2007, 10:54:51 AM
goal is 120 and 95lb bnp drop sets...........gotta get to the plates here soon!!!  I want 45's on both side, but I guess 35's and 25's for now......
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 04, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
WEDNESDAY 4/4/07                                          
                                           
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      set 3            
Seated BN OH PRESS       0X15           95X10        120X5--->95X6        120X5--->95X6     120X5--->95X6     115x5 - 90x6        105X8     105X8       
                                          
Rear Delts       40X12        40x12        40x12         ss with machine rears 20 reps, 15, `1     3 sets machine superset                
                         70X15        90X12        105X10       
CABLE UPRIGHT ROWS                   110X12        110X12        110X12                   
                                          
leaning 1arm side lats       25X12        30X12        30x12         ss with machine rears 20 reps, 15, 12                   
                                             
ARNOLDS LIGHT       30X9-10        30X9-10        30X9-10                                   
                                              
1 arm dbell press to finish      25X12      30X12      35X10                         
                                          
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 05, 2007, 03:46:13 PM
                                                   
                         
THURSDAY - April 5, 2007 - UP ANOTHER LB AND INCREASED SOME LIFTS….gym was empty so I had no spot.                        
Decided to work in the higher rep range today, pump was insane and I realzied how tired my delts got before                        
my chest fatiqued……..no more chest after delts…..                        
                         
176lbs……..record 8 month weight.                        

Smith INCLINE (3rd)                        
145x12                         
155x12                        
160x10                        
160x10                        
160x10                        
170x8                        
185x6                         
135x12                                                     
                                                   
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)                                                   
40x6                                                   
60x6                                                   
70x10                                                   
70x10                                                   
70x10                                                   
70x10      --->50xfail                                             
 60x10,50x13                                                    
                                                    
PECK DECKS                                                   
3 sets of 105x12                                                   
                                                   
Barbell Skulls                                                    
3 sets 10-12                                                   
                                                 
1arm dbel tri                                                 
15x12x2                                                
                                                 
                                                
flt fly                                                
45x10                                                 
45x10                                                 

Inc Fly                                                
50x8                                                 
50x8                                                 
                                                
DECLINE BURNOUT                                                
160x10                                                 
160x10                                                 
160x10                   
135x12                   
                   
                   
                  
                  
                  
                  
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 06, 2007, 06:33:53 AM


FridayApril 5th 2007

 will update after pm session - extremely tired right now....we'll see.
goals in bold

DEADLIFTS
235X6X5 -  SMOOTH
240
BENCH
150X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 155X8X2
155
STANDING PRESS
95X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP
100
SUMO WIDDDDDE SQUATS 
135x8x5
140
smith press
3 sets of 8 (to the front)

rear delts - light high rep dbells strict - 3 sets 10-12
 
Shrugs
4 sets 8-12
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: thewickedtruth on April 06, 2007, 06:38:52 AM
for someone not caring about gaining strength but wanting to put on a good 30lbs of size, how are you going to get there? You're going to need to cut the bullshit out and move some decent weight to add good size and fullness to your body if you plan to compete in anything beyond natty and even then  you'll need all the help you can get starting out at that a size. I'm not talking about going into teh gym and slinging wet like a terrier on a rat but putting effort into some good strength movements and bumping that weight up on a regular basis to grow. Judging by that physique as it sits, I don't think youv'e got it easy putting on size unless you're big into blow. Eat big, lift big, GROW BIG!



The suggestion made to start taking outside input into consideration instead of just asking questions and disregarding the information given will get you more help than not.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 06, 2007, 07:39:27 AM
aS YOU CAN SEE, i'VE CUT A LOT OF THE FUFU SHIT OUT......EATING?  I agee, it eneds some work...bt my aux outline today, deads, bench, squats push press....how is that bullshit?  Or were you talking abiout my previous sesions?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: thewickedtruth on April 06, 2007, 08:17:04 AM
aS YOU CAN SEE, i'VE CUT A LOT OF THE FUFU SHIT OUT......EATING?  I agee, it eneds some work...bt my aux outline today, deads, bench, squats push press....how is that bullshit?  Or were you talking abiout my previous sesions?

your old stuff for the most part though I'd suggest pushing it a little harder but not to the point of ego lifting.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 06, 2007, 08:34:34 AM
im weak rt now bro.....bare with me.....itll come back i hope........delts today.....lil deadlftn too
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: thewickedtruth on April 06, 2007, 08:41:04 AM
im weak rt now bro.....bare with me.....itll come back i hope........delts today.....lil deadlftn too
fuck you and your excuses..shutup and lift!  ;)
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 06, 2007, 10:31:03 AM
woooooo...relax
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 06, 2007, 02:49:09 PM
FRIDAY 4/5/2006                              
                               
      Warmup      warump      set1      set2      
DBELL PRESS       30x12           40x8        50x10        50x10     60x8     60x8--->50x8---->40x8
                              
CABLE REAR DELTS       40x12x3                                  
                              
UPRIGHT ROWS       75x12        85x10        95x8       105x6      
                              
STANDING PUSH PRESS       65x12        85x8        85x8        90x6       90x6
                              
PLATE RAISE (45)       X12        X12        X12        X12       
                               
RV NO STRAP SHRUGS      185x15      205x15      225x15      245x12
                        
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 09, 2007, 04:12:54 AM
SUNDAY APRIL 8TH, 2008                                       
                                       
LEGS ARE REALLY BOTHERING ME (KNEES) SO DECIDED TO TAKE A WEEK OFF OF QUADS AND HIT SOME BACK WITH HAMMIES….CHEST TODAY!                                       
                                       
                                       
                                       
      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2          
B NECK PULLDOWNS      80X12      120X12      130X10      130X10, 1 SET OF PULL UPS                 
                                       
                                       
SMITH BARBELL ROWS       135X12        145X12       155X10      165X10      165X10               
                                        
                                       
1 ARM RACK ROWS        70X12        70X12        70X12                      
                                          
                                       
STR8LEGG DEADLIFTS      135X12      155X12      185X10      205X10               
                                       
                                       
HYPEREXTENTIONS       20.00        25.00        30.00                               
                                          
TBAR ROWS       PLATEX12      PLATE X12      PLATEX12                     
                                        
LAYING HAM CURL      70X12      70+X12      70++X12                     
       70++10      70++10      70++10                     
                                        
UNDERHAND PULLDOWNS            3 SETS 12,10,10                           
chest today - trying to use the smith for chest (flat) and see if I can go heavier...then followed by 3-4 sets lighter incoline dbells (focus on range of motion and technique)  Still build mass correct?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 09, 2007, 02:48:12 PM
MONDAY APRIL 9, 2007      
Now It feels like I'm getting back into thie game a little bit…weight is still low (172lbs).      
Getting in three meal pretraining (approx. 50g of pro, 50g carbs, 10g of fat in each)      
one post workout of tuna and veggies, and then a couple throughout the night prebed and at midnight      
all fats and protein. Up in every lift from last Monday………that feels good!      

INCLINE Dbell (higher rep, less weight)                
55x12      
60x10      
60x10      
65x 10      
65x 10      
                        
(Smitty Spot)FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                        
135x8      
155x6   
185x6   
195x6   
215x2-3   
215x2-3   
185x6--->165x10   
    
    

PECK DECKS                     
135x12                     
135+x10                     
135+x10                     
    
flt fly                     
50x11                 
50x12            

incline fly         
45x15         
45x15         


                           
DECLINE BURNOUT                           
155x10         
175x7           
175x6         
175x6         
165x9         
155x10         
         
Seated Angled Calf-raise:                 
45+25x10                 
45x+25+10x10                 
45x35x25x5                 
                 
45+25x10   45+10x10                 
                 
Standing Calf-raise:                 
220x10                 
320x10                   
STACKx5                 
220x10                 
320x10   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 09, 2007, 03:46:09 PM
MONDAY APRIL 9, 2007      
Now It feels like I'm getting back into thie game a little bit…weight is still low (172lbs).      
Getting in three meal pretraining (approx. 50g of pro, 50g carbs, 10g of fat in each)      
one post workout of tuna and veggies, and then a couple throughout the night prebed and at midnight all fats and protein. Up in every lift from last Monday………that feels good!      


Question:  What do you do when your car runs out of gas?  A wise man would answer, "I put fuel in it."  Fueling your body with carbohydrates post workout (when your body is depleted) is essential for quickly replenishing muscle glycogen which enables our muscles to begin the rebuild/repair process.  Fitness/Bodybuilding 101 material. 

Why do you choose not to do so when it's the most nutrient demanding meal (other than breakfast) of the day?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 04:20:09 AM
Mav - if you are going to belittle, talk down, etc. please refrain from posting......ths far, you've made a series of comment, none of which have been positive crisitism.......


My feeling is, I have a truly truly rough time eating anything after I train......I am done training about 5pm and sleep around 10pm...I try to snack and get in whatever I can, but I get a lot of carbs in the 3 meals prior to training...........

Normailly schedled for back today, but did back and hammys sunday......might do some light deads today with delts (I know after chest, sucks) or just save the deads for back tomorrow..........sugges tions on toays routine?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 10, 2007, 07:02:36 AM
Your current diet structure for building mass looks like my diet structure when I'm cutting. 
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 10, 2007, 07:20:12 AM
Mav - if you are going to belittle, talk down, etc. please refrain from posting......ths far, you've made a series of comment, none of which have been positive crisitism.......

His comment wasn't that bad & it made sense.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 10, 2007, 07:21:51 AM
My feeling is, I have a truly truly rough time eating anything after I train......

I understand that. I've you tried a high quality protein shake with some simple carbs. Maybe try something like waxy maize (spelling?) & whey isolate.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 07:24:12 AM
Mav - it's estimated at 3,500 cals and remeber I'm only 170.......not sure of your stats, but you know as well as I do, some need 1500, some need 6000.....you think I need more?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 10, 2007, 08:54:55 AM
I'm not so much concerned about your daily totals.  And you are exactly right in stating that some people need more or less than others.

What I do know (according to scientific studies) is that ones muscle glycogen is depleted as a result of an intense training session.  In order to replenish, you must intake a carb or some sort PWO.  However, there are several debates that talk about simple vs. complex carbs PWO and that's where experimentation comes into play.  I've done all maltodextrin, all dextrose and then both and I can honestly say that I haven't noticed much difference in size/strength/appearance after each experiment.  With the Summer months approaching, I tend to do 40/20 (malto/dex) for carbs PWO.

I am 5'7, currently 174lbs at 9% body fat.  My daily caloric intake is around 3000-3200 calories a day.  My daily maintenance calories is probably around 2700-2800, so I'm intaking a bit more right now in an attempt to build a little strength and size if possible.  Nothing over the top since the warmer months are approaching and I prefer to be as lean as possible in the Summer. 

My meal structure currently looks like this:

Meal 1:  Pro/Carb/Fat
Meal 2:  Pro/Carb
Train:  (2) caffeine tablets and 5 grams of arginine
Meal 3 (PWO):  40 grams of whey, 40 grams of maltodextrin, 20 grams of dextrose
Meal 4 (PPWO):  Pro/Carb
Meal 5:  Pro/Carb/Fat
Meal 6:  Pro/Fat

I chose not to snack because, well, most snack type foods are fairly calorically dense.  The only sups that I take are whey and carbs and are designated for PWO only.  Do understand that I was once 132lbs back in 2002 after I overcame cancer.  It has taken me about 4.5 years to get to my current weight and my gains have been all natural and steady during that time. 

In summary, stick to the basics.  Establish a plan and stick to it to develop a personal gauge.  You can then tailor your program in ways that will better satisfy your bulking/cutting goals when the time comes. 
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 10, 2007, 09:00:53 AM
Here's some recent pictures of me that were taken last month.  I have some updated leg shots on a different PC at home that I'll share with you as well.  My legs were my weak point, but after some extreme dedication, they might be my strong point now. 
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 10:38:10 AM
Not too sure why you posted all that, but ok........I am prob. 6'2, 170 and 8-9% (and it IS GETTING higher)  I go

p/c
p/c
p/c
train
p/c
p/f



Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 11:01:56 AM
730          PRO        CARB        FAT       
1/2 CUP OATS          5.00        27.00        3.00        150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS           18.00        -          -          225.00
2 EGG WHITES          6.00        1.00        1.00        80.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin          4.00        30.00        3.00        160.00
                                     
          34.50        88.00        8.40        740.00
                           
10                           
3oz Flank Steak          21.00        -          3.75        135.00
4oz Buffalo         36                 3.00       180   
1  brown rice          3.00        45.00        3.00        210.00
          60.00        45.00        9.75        525.00
                           
1pm                           
5oz chicken          33.75        -          3.13        162.50
1 CUP OATS          10.00        54.00        6.00        300.00
          43.75        54.00        9.13        462.50
TRAIN 3PMS                           
                           
                           
600ISH                           
                           
SALAD          2.00        30.00        3.00        150.00
can on tuna          43.00        -          2.00        150.00
                           
          45.00    0    30.00          5.00    0    300.00
7PM                           
2 TB PB          9.20        60.00        4.00        320.00
2PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        175.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
          13.70        120.00     -       8.40     -       620.00
900                           
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS          12.00        1.00        -          65.00
20 almonds          10.00        10.00        18.00        200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND          20.00        5.00        2.00        120.00
          42.00        16.00    0    20.00    0    385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON                           
                           
          238.95     -       353.00    #VALUE!    60.68     -       3,032.50


Between bed (9pm) and 2am I prob wake up twice and eat some veggies, or another shake, or a homemade protein bar.........if I'm hungry.........


Oh and cardio is only 1x a week..................yo u do it more, right?

Plus, I train 6x a week.........and on HRT at 250mg..........so I prob. should be eating more??? 


Quick question is what do you eat PRECONTEST as a Post Meal?  Something non bloating, non water retensive....easily digested......
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 10, 2007, 11:14:17 AM
Mav - it's estimated at 3,500 cals and remeber I'm only 170.......not sure of your stats, but you know as well as I do, some need 1500, some need 6000.....you think I need more?

I posted it because of what is in bold above.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 10, 2007, 11:17:20 AM
Not too sure why you posted all that, but ok........I am prob. 6'2, 170 and 8-9% (and it IS GETTING higher)  I go

p/c
p/c
p/c
train
p/c
p/f



If the P/C meal PWO is tuna and veggies, then it's pretty much a protein only meal.  Veggies are pretty much fiber only which have neglible impact on our blood sugar levels.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 10, 2007, 01:44:41 PM
Keep at it lugar, remember dont check the scale that often, once a week at the most. Too often and u wont c results u want and ul get discouraged.

Rome wasnt built in a day mate, keep it simple, stick at it, enjoy it, enjoy the pain wen doing as balls to workout, then enjoy the euphoria after uv smashed ur logg book.

Then eat, sleep, and eat somemore.

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 02:26:35 PM
mav - show me your diet please...............
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 10, 2007, 02:38:22 PM
TUESDAY - DELTS/TRAPS APRIL 10. 2--7 - BACK TOMORROW - HEAVY WEIGH IN 173LBS         
Dumbell Military Press:         
    50x12       
    60x10       
    60x10      
    60x10      
   50x10      
   45x10 - 40x12      
**NO SPOT COULDN’T GO HIGHER**         
         
Upright rows on cable with straight bar- pressing for rear delts:         
    100x10 **3 sec squeeze**      
    100x10 **3 sec squeeze**      
    110x10      
    110x10      
         
Lateral Raises:         
20x12      20x12   
20x12      20x12   
         
Superset with this no rest         
Cross Cable Laterals:         
35x15      45x12   
45x12      45x10+2+3   
         
Behind the neck press to finish (none to complete failure, just nice squeeze in traps**         
    65x12      
    85x10      
    95x10      
    105x8      
    115x7-8      
          
Machine Front Handle Press         
x15, 12,12,10         
         
Traps:         
**Feet Stationary, no movement, squeeze each rep*         
DBELL SHRUGS         
70x15x4         
          
         
ABS,          
**GOOD SESSION UNDER THE WEATHER*  90 MIN SESSION, NEED TO WORK ON REDUCING VOLUME         
AND NEED TO WORK ON MEALS POST..****         
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 11, 2007, 05:42:05 AM
WEDNESDAY - APRIL 11TH, 2007 WEIGHED IN AT a heavy...I'm not even eating that much, yet the scale keeps on moving.....abs starting to fade.  Didnt sleep well, so I've decided to ave deads and back (since I did do them on Sunday) to tomorrow or Friday,,,,,time for a good old arm session.  Haven't had one in awhile........here was a week ago:

biceps-barbell curls- 45lbsx15,  70x12, 80x12, 85x9-10, 105x3-4, 80x20 rest pause                                    
                                    
dbell curls - 35x10, 35x10 sloppy                                    
                                    
1 arm preacher curls-20lbx12 reps 4 sets no rest one arm back forth                                    
                                    
 overhead cable curls 4 sets  ss with close grip bench naut. Machine (usually hammer, but forearm pain!                                 
TRIS:
                                                
rope pushdowns-2 warmup 3 sets of 12-10                                    
                                    
115x8, 125x7, 135x6 140x5                                    
                                    
1 arm overhead extensions superset with pushdowns against a bench 3 sets                                    
                                    
reverse pushdowns superset with dips 3 sets each                                    
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 12, 2007, 04:41:16 AM
Wednesday April 11, 2007 -


Ready to have a good arm session when my buddy says, come train my style for mass.......80% of your 1 rep max to start.......now this was pretty intense, with 30-90 sec rests but I am torn for today........either chest or arms........I realy want to get the chest to grow, but need to let the cuffs recoop.......mahybe some smith presses followed by some drop set dbell work.......


DEADS      DBELL ROWS      SQUAT      DECLINE BENCH      PUSH PRESS   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 12, 2007, 03:22:08 PM
THURSDAY APRIL 12, 2007                                                
Smith INCLINE (3rd)                                                
150X12   150                                              
160X12                                                 
160X10                                                 
165X10                                                 
170X9                                                 
185X7                                                 
185X6                                                 
145X11-12                                                  
                                                
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)                                                
50X6                                                 
60X6                                                 
75X8                                                 
75X8                                                
80X6                                                
80X6                                                    
 65X10,55X13                                                  
                                                 
PECK DECKS                                                
3 SETS OF 12 (125)                                                
                                                
flt fly                                                
50X9                                                 
50X10                                                 

Inc Fly                                                
45X10                                                 
45X10                                                 
                                                
LIL TRIS                                                       
SMITH CLOSE       135X8        145X8        145X8        150X7                                   
                                                
ROPE      50X15      60X15       70X12        80X10        90X10                      
                                                            
1 ARM CABLE       30X12        40X12        40X12                                        
DIPS                                                
                                                
                                                      
                                                      
                                                
                                                
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 13, 2007, 02:57:22 PM
APRIL 13, 2007 - FRIDAY, JUST FELT SHITTY ALL WEEK, YET BODYWEIGHT IS CLIMBING            
AND WEIGHTS ARE INCREASING……..THIS IS AN INCREASE EVEN FROM TUESDAY'S WORKOUT…..            
            
            
Dumbell Military Press:            
    55X13         
    60X11         
    65X10         
    65X9         
   55X10         
   50X10,45X13         
             
            
Upright rows on cable with straight bar- pressing for rear delts:            
    110x10 **3 sec squeeze**         
    110x10 **3 sec squeeze**         
    120x10         
    120x10         
            
Lateral Raises:            
25X12      25X12       
25X12      25X12      
            
Superset with this no rest            
Cross Cable Laterals:            
40X13      45x12      
45x12      45X12      
            
Behind the neck press to finish              
    75X12   75      
    95X10   95      
    105X9   105      
    115X8   115      
    115X7-8   115      
             
Machine Front Handle Press            
x15, 12,12,10            
            
Traps:            
             
DBELL SHRUGS            
70x15x4            
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 13, 2007, 03:07:14 PM
That's fantastic that your weight and your strength in numbers are increasing.  What does the mirror reveal?  *Full body pics would tell the story.  I highly encourage you to post GOOD pics to help timestamp/monitor your progress moving foward.

* - This means more than an ab shot.  Heck, even Arnold had an extremely thin waistline.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 14, 2007, 05:33:38 AM
still pretty weak, I know.........


Arms and cardio today....30 mins of each..........
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 15, 2007, 07:37:37 AM
So the diets working the lugar??

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 18, 2007, 05:15:51 AM
DELOAD!!!!!!

I've been lifting heavy 6-8 reps for a looooong time and my joints are asking me to quit...........so, this week, I'm going to the gym and lifting lighter, drop sets, supersets, etc and not worrying about the weight.  I'm not taking a routine each day, just will do about 15-20 sets per bodypart........ad lib........1-2 bodyparts each day.  I should take the week off, but this gives me the release I need from the office plus cranks my appetites.....Chest was Monday, delts were yesterday....either arms or back today.



Next week I'm starting my cycle, lifting heavy, getting my head on str8, etc......sound good?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 18, 2007, 06:54:27 AM
Drop sets are not your answer if your joints are already screaming at you.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 18, 2007, 10:32:14 AM
Nixing the drop sets...........light week is a good idea though, right?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: mavsluva on April 18, 2007, 11:30:45 AM
When your body is taxed, the only thing that will rectify it is rest. 
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 18, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
Are u pleased overall with ur results to date (strength/weight gain) mate??

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 18, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
Just sore.....thats all.....weight is for some reason dropping, my meal consumption has sucked lately (past 10 days), just felt blahhh.....this is what I've had daily, you tell me if the scale should be dropping.....keep in mind, I'm only 165ish.....can't get over that fing 170 mark for more than a day and at 6'2 with a large frame, its hurting.....

6am wake - bcaas (ie. no appetite)
7:30 after showering, dress, dog walk, driving to work
1/2 cup oats dry
2 pcs of carb sense whole wheat
1 cup egg whites
1 scoop blend
coffee/tea

10:30
large salad, spinnach, etc
2oz flank
4oz chx
sometimes 1 cup brown rice

1:30
1 cup oats
6oz chx

300pm
train
sip on bcaas during training

5:30
no appetite - subway salad, tons of veggies
2 scoops whey

8:30
prebed
2 scoops muscle milk OR
1 scoop and 1/4 cup chopped nuts
homemade protein bar (casein, egg whites, splenda, ff cream cheese)


9:00 bed

1100pm first piss
1 scoop blend
veggies if im hungry
homemade protein bar
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 19, 2007, 04:37:51 AM
   DID CHEST ON MONDAY, DELTS ON TUESDAY.........GOT TO THE GYM YESTERDAY AND MY BRO ASKED ME TO TRAIN CHEST....I LAUGHED SINCE I HAD PLANNED ON BACK AND THEN I SAID, WHAT THE HELL....ONLY 48 HOURS REST......NO MORE CHEST,DELTS THIS WEEK.....BACK OR ARMS TODAY......

      
WEDNESDAY APRIL 18TH, 2007         
INCLINE Dbell (higher rep, less weight)                   
   60X10      
   65X10      
   65X10      
   65X10      
   65X10      
                           
(Smitty Spot)FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)                           
135X10         
155X8         
165X8         
175X6            
185X5         
205X3          
155X10         
          
          
         
PECK DECKS                           
135x12                           
135+x10                           
135+x10                           
          
SKULL CRUSHERS         
65X10X3         
          
         
incline fly         
45X10         
45X10         

CABLE FLY
65,70,75X10

MACHINE DIPS
110X12X3
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 19, 2007, 06:35:32 AM
Just sore.....thats all.....weight is for some reason dropping, my meal consumption has sucked lately (past 10 days), just felt blahhh.....this is what I've had daily, you tell me if the scale should be dropping.....keep in mind, I'm only 165ish.....can't get over that fing 170 mark for more than a day and at 6'2 with a large frame, its hurting.....

6am wake - bcaas (ie. no appetite)
7:30 after showering, dress, dog walk, driving to work
1/2 cup oats dry
2 pcs of carb sense whole wheat
1 cup egg whites
1 scoop blend
coffee/tea

10:30
large salad, spinnach, etc
2oz flank
4oz chx
sometimes 1 cup brown rice

1:30
1 cup oats
6oz chx

300pm
train
sip on bcaas during training

5:30
no appetite - subway salad, tons of veggies
2 scoops whey

8:30
prebed
2 scoops muscle milk OR
1 scoop and 1/4 cup chopped nuts
homemade protein bar (casein, egg whites, splenda, ff cream cheese)


9:00 bed

1100pm first piss
1 scoop blend
veggies if im hungry
homemade protein bar

OK bro....firstly, if u plan on doing certain body part etc, and ur mate wants u to do sumthin else that hes doing, dont do it!!
Dont change!!

ALSO wer have te hole eggs gone mate, u wer gaining a few pounds, and now ur changining things again??!!

Up things like 20z flank to a 30z etc.

ALSO i know u wer told to have cheat meal/day at wknd, but also have one middle of the week, have a pizza or macdonalds at wednesday lunchtime, trust me ur not onna get fat doing this, and it will break up your week diet wise, and eleviate the monotomy of ur diet!!

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 20, 2007, 05:42:56 AM
I finish working out about 430pm.  I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work.  Problem:  I have ZERO appetite postworkout.  I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later.  Then I'm stufed for the night.   However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up.  Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what?  Does anyone else have this problem?   Is this a recipe for fat gain?  If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 20, 2007, 05:44:43 AM
Friday -

Well, I've hit chest twice, delts and arms....today is my Friday 10 sets of 3...this was last weeks, this week I will try to add 5lbs to each lift:
DEADS      DBELL ROWS      SQUAT      DECLINE BENCH      PUSH PRESS   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
245X3      80x3      135X3      165X3      85X3   
(TRY 250)         (TRY 85)                TRY 140                TRY 170            TRY 90!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 20, 2007, 11:02:20 AM
Eat ur last meal closer to bed time (not everyone likes doing that but i think ul b fine), OR have a pb sandwhich b4 bed and glass of milk (aweosme bulking snack0, if u dont want a big sandwhich just get one slice bread, smother it wi PB, and fold in half.

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 20, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
I eat on my pillow bro.......on my pillow.....still waking up............is it bad to wake up and slam food, shakes?  Even when cutting?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 21, 2007, 11:03:30 AM
I finish working out about 430pm.  I usually lay down about 9ish as I have to be up at 5am for work.  Problem:  I have ZERO appetite postworkout.  I usually have a shake, and force down a salad about an hour later.  Then I'm stufed for the night.   However, midnight, 2am, 4am rolls around and I am STARVING...it actually wakes me up.  Last night for example, I had a casein shake with almonds at 9pm, slep, woke starving, had a muscle milk with some veggies.......slept....w oke at 2am, same deal....another shake with some pb.....does this mean I'm not eating enough during the day(Im stuffing myself with 3500 cals).......or what?  Does anyone else have this problem?   Is this a recipe for fat gain?  If I continue to drink shakes, eat bars, veggies, etc when I wake?

Lugar why don't you try eating/drinking some fiber before bed? It might help you feel "fuller".
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 22, 2007, 06:21:31 AM
SATURDAY APRIL 21, 2007         
         
started with 30 mins of cardio……….         
   barbell curls superset        
65   x12      
75   x10      
75   x8      
95   x8      
         
   rope pushdowns      
100   x12      
110   x10      
110   x8      
120   x8      
         
   rev grip close bench      
95   x10      
105   x8      
110   x8      
115   x5-6      x10
         
   preachers      
55   x12      
55   x12      
55   x12      
         
         
   seated dbell curls superset       
   30x11      
   30x11      
   30x11      
         
   1arm ext      
   15x12      
   20x10      
   20x10      
         
   cable curls superset        
   70x12      
   70x12      
   70x12      
         
   triangle      
   110x15      
   120x12      
   130x10      
   130x10      
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 22, 2007, 07:10:51 AM
APRIL 22, 2007 Delts, hams, calves               
                
Started with 30 minutes incline walk 3.3 speed 10% grade               
(2.5 hours after first meal - oats eggs, whole wheat bread)               
Dumbell Military Press: (none to failure, all up and squeeze all the way down)               
    40x8            
    50x8            
    55x8            
    60x8            
   60x8            
                
Upright rows on cable WIDE               
    65X10             
    75X10             
    85X10             
                  
Upright rights barbell close            
65x8            
85x8              
95x8             
            
Superset with this no rest            
Cross Cable Laterals:            
40X13      40x15      
45x10      40x15      
            
Behind the neck press to finish              
    75X12   75      
    95X10   95      
    105X9   105      
    115X8   115      
    115X7-8   115      
       
GVT HAM CURL      
70+x10x5      
      
Traps:      
       
SEATED DBELL SHRUGS      
60X15X4      
       
      
      
      
      


      










Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 23, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
MONDAY APRIL 23, 2007                  
Supersets…..feel really weak and depleted…….trained delts yesterday so todays chest day was a mistake.                  
I need a complete diet overall………                  
                  
SCALE READ 158LBS AT 4PM………………FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                  
                  
Smith INCLINE 2ND                  
155x8                    
155x8                   
155x8                   
165x6                   
165x6                   
165x6                   
145x12                   
SUPERSETTED WITH INCLINE FLYS                  
40X12                  
40X12                                                
40X12                                                
45X10                                                
45X10   45X10                                             
                                                
FLAT DBELL (startHERE)                                                
55X10                                                 
65X10                                                   
75X6                                                 
75X6                                                 
80X4-5                                                 
65X10,55X13                                                    
                                                    
                                                 
PECK DECKS                                                
120X10                                                
90X15                                       
                                         
                                       
DECLINE BURNOUT                                                          
155X6                                          
155X6                                       
155X6                                       
145X8                                       
145X8                                       
                                       
SUPERSET WITH FLAT FLYS                                       
40X12                                       
40X12                                             
40X12                                             
                                       
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 25, 2007, 08:18:30 AM
I just purchased a tub of choc mint cytogainer and a tub of muscle milk light.......cant wait to try....I'll keep you posted.  But everyone is right, this is only 1/2 the equation.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 25, 2007, 08:19:15 AM
TUESDAY APRIL 24, 2007            
            
Seated WIDE Rows:            French Curl Bar (narrow grip)
110x12            55X10
130x10            55X10
150x10            55X10

T-bar Rows:            Hammer Curls:
platex12            25x12
45+10 x 10            30x10
45+25x8            40X6
45+30x8 ---->45+5 x 13            

High Pulls            
plate+25 x 12            
2 plates x 10            
2 plates +25 x 6-8
2 plates x 10
Rack Deads
185x10
205x10
225x6
240x6

Dbell Row Inclines
60x10
70x8
80x8

GREAT SESSION!!!  WEIGHTS WEREN'T HEAVY, FORM WAS LIKE A BOOK ONE PROBLEM……..
PM WEIGHT IS 159.



DELTS TODAY!!!
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 25, 2007, 09:48:30 AM
I just purchased a tub of choc mint cytogainer and a tub of muscle milk light.......cant wait to try....I'll keep you posted.  But everyone is right, this is only 1/2 the equation.

Why the Muscle Milk Light?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 25, 2007, 10:45:47 AM
midnight shake?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 25, 2007, 10:49:45 AM
What's the nutrition stats of Muscle Milk Light?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 25, 2007, 03:22:01 PM
MUSCLE MILK LIGHT   2 SCOOPS          1 SCOOP
Calories   195         97.5
Total Fat    6.00             3
Saturated Fat    2.50           1.25
Trans Fat    -            0
Cholesterol    5.00           2.5
Sodium    115.00           57.5
Potassium    620.00           310
Total Carbohydrate    11.00           5.5
Dietary Fiber    1.00           0.5
Sugars    2.00           1
Protein    25.00           12.5
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 25, 2007, 03:24:20 PM
I snapped off a pic this am after waking up.....I am 2 weeks after recovering my the stomach flu that kept me very weak and no appetite...I need help boys...I need a diet overall....thank god I've help off on the full cycle (just 250mg right now)...as soon as I get this diet down, I'll roll with it...but that is the key......PLEASE HELP ME BY GIVING ME HONEST EDITS!!



APRIL 25, 2007 NEED DIET OVERHALL!            
159LBS            
            
            
Dumbell Military Press:            
    40x6          
    50x6          
    60x10          
    65x10 (sloppy and partial)         
   65x10 (sloppy and partial)         
   60x10, 55x10,50x10          
               
            
1 ARM FULL 90 DEGREE DBELL PRESS TO FINISH            
    25X11         
    25X11         
    25X11         
    25X11         
            
1 ARM LAT RAISE            
25X12      30X12       
25X12      30X12      
            
Superset with this no rest            
Cross Cable Laterals:            
40X10      40X14      
40X13      40X14      
            
SMITH BEHIND THE NECK TOWARDS END            
    95X12          
    105X10          
    115X10          
    125X8   
    125X8   
       
Machine Front Handle Press      
x15, 12,12,10      
      
Traps:      
       
DBELL SHRUGS      
75X14X4      
       
      
      
      
      

APRIL 25, 2007 NEED DIET OVERHALL!            
159LBS            
            
            
Dumbell Military Press:            
    40x6          
    50x6          
    60x10          
    65x10 (sloppy and partial)         
   65x10 (sloppy and partial)         
   60x10, 55x10,50x10          
               
            
1 ARM FULL 90 DEGREE DBELL PRESS TO FINISH            
    25X11         
    25X11         
    25X11         
    25X11         
            
1 ARM LAT RAISE            
25X12      30X12       
25X12      30X12      
            
Superset with this no rest            
Cross Cable Laterals:            
40X10      40X14      
40X13      40X14      
            
SMITH BEHIND THE NECK TOWARDS END            
    95X12          
    105X10          
    115X10          
    125X8   
    125X8   
       
Machine Front Handle Press      
x15, 12,12,10      
      
Traps:      
       
DBELL SHRUGS      
75X14X4      
       
      
      
      
      

























Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 26, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
Thursday April 26, 2007 - CHEST,ABS (PW WEIGHT FULLY CLOTHED, 157LBS)

OVERTRAINING NO MORE…..I started the 5x5 awhile back and made
nice gains then gave it up when I stalled…..I'm bringing it back.  Keeping it simple.

INCLINE BENCH
WARM - 95X12
WARM - 125X10
145X5
145X5
145X5
145X5
145X5
NEVER REALLY FOCUSED ON FORM AND BRINGING THE WEIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN AND CONTROLLED
MOVEMENT DONE WITH STRICT FORM, TOUCH BELOW CHIN AND EXPLODE.
 
FLAT DBELL PRESS            
55X10            
60X8            
65X8            
70X5X2            
DROP SET 55X1O            

DIPS            
NO WEIGHT, WIDE GRIP            
4 SETS OF 12            
            
INCLINE FLYS            
40X11            
45X10            
45X9            
DROP SET DOUBLE 35X10, 30X12            

      
      
      
      
      
      
      

      
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 26, 2007, 03:50:32 PM
How long were you doing 5X5's? IMO you need to give a routine at least four-six weeks before judging if it works or not?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 26, 2007, 04:06:22 PM
here's my start........any suggestions = greatly appreciated!!
 

745AM          PRO        CARB        FAT       
1/2 CUP OATS          5.00        27.00        3.00        150.00
2 PCS TOAST          1.00        30.00        -          160.00
1 CUP EGG WHITES          26.00        2.00        0.50        120.00
          32.00        59.00        3.50        430.00
                           
1030AM                           
2OZ FLANK          14.00        -          3.50        90.00
4 OZ CHICKEN          27.00        -          2.50        130.00
BROC, ASPARG, GREENS          2.00        20.00        1.00        120.00
1 CUPS BROWN RICE          2.00        45.00        2.00        220.00
          45.00        65.00        9.00        560.00
                            
130PM                           
6OZ CHX          40.50        -          3.76        195.00
3/4 CUP OATS          7.50        40.50        4.50        225.00
                                        
          48.00        40.50        8.26        420.00
3-430 TRAIN                           
                           
500 PW MEAL                           
1/2 CYTO          27.00        37.50        3.00        285.00
4OZ HOMADE OAT BAR          15.00        17.50        2.25        156.00
1/2 CUP SOY MILK          3.00        4.00        1.00        35.00
          45.00        59.00     -       6.25     -       476.00
                           
900                           
1 CUP SOY MILK          6.00        8.00        2.00        70.00
20 almonds          5.20           5.00        12.20        140.00
1/2 CUP EGG WHITES          13.00        1.00        -          70.00
1 SCOOP MUSCLE MILK LIGHT          12.50        6.00        3.00        98.00
          36.70        20.00     -       17.20     -       378.00
                           
MIDNIGHT                           
BROC, ASPARG, GREENS          2.00        20.00        1.00        120.00
20 almonds          5.20           5.00        12.20        140.00
          7.20     -       25.00     -       13.20        260.00
2-3AM                           
1 SCOOP MUSCLE MILK LIGHT          12.50        6.00        3.00        98.00
                           
    GRAND TOTAL        226.40     -       274.50     -       60.41      2,622.00
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 26, 2007, 04:21:09 PM
Check your PM's.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 26, 2007, 04:27:41 PM
My first suggestion would be to ditch the soy milk & replace it with a full glass/cup of 2% milk.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 27, 2007, 05:03:01 AM
nope........lactose
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 27, 2007, 08:19:41 AM
Why oh why bro are still going over ur diet, with a fine tooth comb.

Why is there just egg whites, and not whole eggs, y is it just 1/2 cup oats and not 1 hole cup etc etc etc etc. Obviously bro everyone wants to help u, but this has been covered bro.

You sed b4 if ur diet was made up (whcih it was), then u would stick to it no questions asked. uv gone back on ur word mate.

Thhis is all alot simpler than u let it be.

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 27, 2007, 08:28:03 AM
nope........lactose

I see. Well, ignore my advice then. No sense in causing any excess stomach problems.  :-[
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Rimbaud on April 27, 2007, 08:35:10 AM
Why is there just egg whites, and not whole eggs, y is it just 1/2 cup oats and not 1 hole cup etc etc etc etc

davie makes a great point. There's not reason to eat egg whites right now. You should be eating whole eggs (I eat about two dozen a week). Add the extra 1/2 a cup of oats as well. It won't hurt & it'll only help.
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 27, 2007, 11:03:56 AM
I fell off the wagon......I got brought down with back to back illnesses and getting anything down for the past month was a chore....I'm good now and want to get back on...I was doing well...just need a concrete diet in place....I'll switch the eggs, is that it?
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 27, 2007, 03:08:22 PM
FRIDAY APRIL 27, 2007                                    
Good day in the gym - SHITTTTTTY DAY on the scale!                                    
                                    
good warmupup, 135x6x3…..stretching                                    
                                    
Rack Deads         HYPERS                           
245X5         Plate x 15reps                           
245X5         Plate x 15reps                           
245X5         Plate x 15reps                           
245X5                                    
245X5                                    
amazed how these feel so much harder than conentional - all back, very little leg movement                                    
                                    
REAR DELTS         MACHINE FLYS                           
30X10         60X15                           
30X10         75X12                           
35X10  SUPERSETTED --->         75X12                           
                                    
BARBELL ROWS         CLOSE GRIP PULLS                           
115X10         80X12                           
120X10         90X12                           
130X8         100X10                           
135X8         110X8                           
SUPPERSETTED                                     
                                    
1 ARM RACK DBELL ROWS           LAT PULLS WITH TRIANGLE ATTACHMENT                           
65X10         100X10                           
75X8         110X10                           
85X8         110X10                           
SUPERSETTED                                    


                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                     
                                     
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: davie on April 27, 2007, 04:03:30 PM
Dude u had a concrete diet in place, just look back over revious posts/topics u posted on, nd we discussed it on.

Uv got all the info u need bro!!

davie
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 28, 2007, 05:00:30 AM
double my cals??  cardio and arms or delts tdy....5x5.....
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 28, 2007, 01:49:04 PM
SATURDAY APRIL 28TH, 2007                           
WEIGHT A MERE 155LBS                           
                           
                           
30 MINUTES 10-12% INCLINE, 3.3-3.5 SPEED TREADMILL WALK TO START!               standing military 5x5            
THEN ABS THEN DELTS AS FOLLOWS:  (WEAKER THAN NORMAL, DUE TO JUST ONE MEAL                           
AND CARDIO PRE)                             
                            
STANDING (NO MOVEMENT) OH BARBELL PRESS                           
0X12   WARMUPS                        
65X6                           
75X6`                           
   95X6                        
   95X6                        
   100X6                        
   100X6, 85X8, 65X12                        
                           
LEANING SIDE LATERALS                             
    20X12                          
    20X12                          
    25X12                          
                              
                           
SEATED (NO MOVEMENT) FRONT RAISE                            
20X10                              
20X10                             
20X10                            
                            
CROSS REAR CABLES                            
40X12      40X12                       
40X12                             
                            
SMITH BEHIND THE NECK TOWARDS END                           
    115X12                          
    125X10                          
    135X8-10                          
    135X8                            
    105X10                          
    95X12                        
                            
ONE ARM DBELL PRESS                           
25X12                           
30X10                           
30X10                           
                            
                            
                            
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           

                           

                           

                           
                           
                           
                           
                           

                           
Title: Re: Lou's Offseason Quest to Compete........Cmon Davie!
Post by: Lugar on April 30, 2007, 03:43:02 PM
Monday April 30,, 2007 -        
INCLINE BENCH      
WARM - 115x10      
WARM - 135x6      
150x5       
150x5       
150x5       
150x5       
150x5       
       
       
       
FLAT DBELL PRESS      
60x10       
65x8      
70x6      
70x6      
60x10      
50x12      
DIPS      
      
NO WEIGHT, WIDE GRIP      
4 SETS OF 13      

INCLINE FLYS      
40x12       
45x10       
45x10       
DROP SET DOUBLE 35x10x2