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Title: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 05:10:20 PM
you think your dog would stand a chance in a fight with this american stafford beast?


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 02, 2007, 08:56:08 AM



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my pup likes to play.....he hasn't discovered aggression....which is good


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 02, 2007, 12:33:01 PM


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my pup likes to play.....he hasn't discovered aggression....which is good

all pups get bitten, when they grow up they bite other dogs. its the nature


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 02, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
all pups get bitten, when they grow up they bite other dogs. its the nature

true...just saying....it hasn't happened 'yet'

he's more cautious over little yappy dogs.  Bigger the dog....the less he cares.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ARMZ on April 02, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
He would be a light snack for my big boy..


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: kimura on April 02, 2007, 03:24:33 PM
My mastiff would tear that dog to shreds.



Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: hazbin on April 02, 2007, 03:29:24 PM
my boy was attacked by a pitbull one time and he pinned the pitbull pretty quick. mind you i found him wild on a reserve and he may be part wolf.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ARMZ on April 02, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Do I have to even have to say anything here.. 


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: kimura on April 02, 2007, 03:45:34 PM
Do I have to even have to say anything here.. 

LMAO


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 02, 2007, 04:04:55 PM
my boy was attacked by a pitbull one time and he pinned the pitbull pretty quick. mind you i found him wild on a reserve and he may be part wolf.

See...right there is a bad assed dog.  Why most dogs would loose a fight with that dog is the thick-thick coat of fur & long nose.



Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 02, 2007, 04:05:59 PM
Do I have to even have to say anything here.. 

How tall is that Rottie Armz?

(ground to shoulder)


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: Tapper on April 03, 2007, 04:19:28 AM
Nice Rotti! They are great dogs and Im sure he would tear that American Stafford "Beast" to shreds.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ARMZ on April 03, 2007, 03:30:26 PM
How tall is that Rottie Armz?

(ground to shoulder)


Not too sure..  He's more thick than tall..  He's just a few inches taller than the females, but doubles their weight..


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 03, 2007, 04:53:36 PM
my boy was attacked by a pitbull one time and he pinned the pitbull pretty quick. mind you i found him wild on a reserve and he may be part wolf.

thats a beaut man! 8)

smart looking fella 2!


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 03, 2007, 05:03:18 PM
the cucasian mountain dog..

nuff said

(http://www.westworld.com/~ben-levy/Shep)

(http://www.europuppy.com/images/dog_breed_info/caucasian_mountain_dog.jpg)

(http://www.petstyle.com/images/breed_profiles/dogs/Caucasian_Mountain_Dog.jpg)


(http://esquirecaucasians.com/photos/data/35/1cezar1_c2002kubyn.jpg)





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Ovcharka#Temperament



Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 03, 2007, 05:16:46 PM

Not too sure..  He's more thick than tall..  He's just a few inches taller than the females, but doubles their weight..

oh...so how much does he weigh?


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: TrapsMcLats on April 03, 2007, 05:19:48 PM
No offense to any of the dog owners here, but if you know anything about dogs, its that a game bred american pit bull terrier will destroy ANY dog, regardless of size, strength or viciousness of the opposing dog in a dog fight.  The bigger, stronger dogs might dominate the first ten minutes, but when those dogs get tired, an APBT is just getting warmed up and is still able to go full boar and would thusly destroy its opponent.  I do not condone dog fighting in any form, but being as how i do work for the SPCA and BAD RAP, it doesn't take long to learn about dog fighting.

I'm sure the person with the potential wolf hybrid did indeed see their dog pin a pit bull, whether or not that was a game bred pit is another story.  Even jack london in white fang and call of the wild writes of the superiority of the american pit bull terrier.  They were bred to be a perfect fighting dog.  

I must say though, that these types of threads shouldn't be allowed as it just promotes ego stroking and posturing that i despise among dog owners.  I own an american pit bull terrier and i could care less if he could beat another dog.  As long as he remains a loyal and loving companion i could care less about his dog fighting prowess, nor should anyone else here of their own dog(s).


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: kimura on April 03, 2007, 05:30:13 PM
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Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ARMZ on April 03, 2007, 05:36:32 PM
No offense to any of the dog owners here, but if you know anything about dogs, its that a game bred american pit bull terrier will destroy ANY dog, regardless of size, strength or viciousness of the opposing dog in a dog fight.  The bigger, stronger dogs might dominate the first ten minutes, but when those dogs get tired, an APBT is just getting warmed up and is still able to go full boar and would thusly destroy its opponent.  I do not condone dog fighting in any form, but being as how i do work for the SPCA and BAD RAP, it doesn't take long to learn about dog fighting.

I'm sure the person with the potential wolf hybrid did indeed see their dog pin a pit bull, whether or not that was a game bred pit is another story.  Even jack london in white fang and call of the wild writes of the superiority of the american pit bull terrier.  They were bred to be a perfect fighting dog.  

I must say though, that these types of threads shouldn't be allowed as it just promotes ego stroking and posturing that i despise among dog owners.  I own an american pit bull terrier and i could care less if he could beat another dog.  As long as he remains a loyal and loving companion i could care less about his dog fighting prowess, nor should anyone else here of their own dog(s).


I was waiting for this post..  haha   I still would love to see the average pit get crazy with my rotts..

 


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 03, 2007, 05:37:19 PM
dog fights are like anything else.....on any given day....you could be surprised by the outcome


Thats why it's so big on gambling....because you can never be so sure on the outcome.




Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: hazbin on April 03, 2007, 05:52:31 PM
No offense to any of the dog owners here, but if you know anything about dogs, its that a game bred american pit bull terrier will destroy ANY dog, regardless of size, strength or viciousness of the opposing dog in a dog fight.  The bigger, stronger dogs might dominate the first ten minutes, but when those dogs get tired, an APBT is just getting warmed up and is still able to go full boar and would thusly destroy its opponent.  I do not condone dog fighting in any form, but being as how i do work for the SPCA and BAD RAP, it doesn't take long to learn about dog fighting.

I'm sure the person with the potential wolf hybrid did indeed see their dog pin a pit bull, whether or not that was a game bred pit is another story.  Even jack london in white fang and call of the wild writes of the superiority of the american pit bull terrier.  They were bred to be a perfect fighting dog.  

I must say though, that these types of threads shouldn't be allowed as it just promotes ego stroking and posturing that i despise among dog owners.  I own an american pit bull terrier and i could care less if he could beat another dog.  As long as he remains a loyal and loving companion i could care less about his dog fighting prowess, nor should anyone else here of their own dog(s).

so you tell us that your dog will beat any other dog and then say you despise dog owners that brag about their dog's fighting??


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ~flower~ on April 03, 2007, 06:04:25 PM

   This subject can very easily go into a bad direction.  I don't think we need to ban this type of conversation if it remains civil and intelligent.

  I am only speaking for myself and not the other mods.     :)



   


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 03, 2007, 06:13:00 PM
I agree....

I do not condone dog fights.  It's one thing if it happens by accident...but by talking about dog breeds vs other dog breeds & which is better than another for fighting is walking on some thin ice.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 06:23:08 PM
hasbin that was good information you gave to the other owners  ;)


Dont get em wrong people, this thread is not so serious. i hate those bustards making money of dogfights. those dogs get tear apart.
American staffordis the cousin of pitbull, almost the same. They got the strongest jaw, and are most agressive in fights.When they bite they dont let go. Even if your dog looks mean as hell, he s got no chance against the pitbull/stafford and some other japanese breed.(forgot the name).

But my dog is very laid back, he keeps his business to himself. He never attacks other dogs, sometimes some small dogs bite him, he just stands there. But if a real big dogs comes, he sees the threat and his hair on the back stands up, and gets in agressive mode.




Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: hazbin on April 03, 2007, 06:32:24 PM
hasbin that was good information you gave to the other owners  ;)


Dont get em wrong people, this thread is not so serious. i hate those bustards making money of dogfights. those dogs get tear apart.
American staffordis the cousin of pitbull, almost the same. They got the strongest jaw, and are most agressive in fights.When they bite they dont let go. Even if your dog looks mean as hell, he s got no chance against the pitbull/stafford and some other japanese breed.(forgot the name).

But my dog is very laid back, he keeps his business to himself. He never attacks other dogs, sometimes some small dogs bite him, he just stands there. But if a real big dogs comes, he sees the threat and his hair on the back stands up, and gets in agressive mode.




my dog is the same way. he is the most mellow and gentle dog most people have seen. he comes to work with me every day and lays in the lobby. kids jump on him, little dogs bite him, he's fine. he has been aggressively approached many times by dogs bigger and smaller than him. he usually turns and let's them play dominant, even if they mount him. but twice in 5 years he has been aggressively attacked (pit bull and burnise mountain dog), and those two times he pinned them (and just held them, nothing violent). made me sick to think that he could have been hurt.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ARMZ on April 03, 2007, 06:36:09 PM
Yeah true. I hate to see dogs fight being that I value a dogs life more than a humans..




Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
my dog is the same way. he is the most mellow and gentle dog most people have seen. he comes to work with me every day and lays in the lobby. kids jump on him, little dogs bite him, he's fine. he has been aggressively approached many times by dogs bigger and smaller than him. he usually turns and let's them play dominant, even if they mount him. but twice in 5 years he has been aggressively attacked (pit bull and burnise mountain dog), and those two times he pinned them (and just held them, nothing violent). made me sick to think that he could have been hurt.

yes this type of dogs has really sweet personality, expecially nice to people, he loves everybody.

there is one thing that i dont understand, when he sees dogs outside, he slowly lays on the ground like a lion, then other dog comes to him and he stands up emmidiately ???


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 03, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
hasbin that was good information you gave to the other owners  ;)


Dont get em wrong people, this thread is not so serious. i hate those bustards making money of dogfights. those dogs get tear apart.
American staffordis the cousin of pitbull, almost the same. They got the strongest jaw, and are most agressive in fights.When they bite they dont let go. Even if your dog looks mean as hell, he s got no chance against the pitbull/stafford and some other japanese breed.(forgot the name).

But my dog is very laid back, he keeps his business to himself. He never attacks other dogs, sometimes some small dogs bite him, he just stands there. But if a real big dogs comes, he sees the threat and his hair on the back stands up, and gets in agressive mode.




Supposedly....a test was done....& the Rottweiler has the strongest bite/jaws

I could be mistaken....maybe someone could provide some information.

I do know...there's nothing that my dog hasn't been able to destroy


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 06:57:32 PM
knny i really dont know for sure about the jaw stength.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 07:04:04 PM
Due to the incredible strength and stamina of the pitbull, one activity that has raised popularity with pitbull owners is WEIGHT PULLING.
dogs compete against eachother in pulling a weighted cart a certain distance. The weight of the cart is increased until a winner is determined. Currently pitbull's hold world records in several weight classes.

hope this helps.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 07:13:10 PM
this dog got gameness :o


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 03, 2007, 07:17:46 PM
can't say it 'helps'

there doesn't seem to be a 'scientific' data ever performed.


Some experts say this...others that


Basically...if you look or examine a Rottweilers jaw....it's the same as a Pit...but larger, bigger, & yes...more muscle.

Plus you factor in their weight & neck muscles (for a Rottweiler over a Pit)....it's hard to say.


I always found it 'curious' but honestly...never want to be on the receiving end of a chi let a lone a Pit or Rot.

You can take a 'large' Pit....& the results may very dramatically....then you can do the same with a large Rot.

I am just going by breed standards.



Pulling a sled....there's a whole different topic.  I have always found the heart & determination of a pulling dog so unbelievable.



Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 03, 2007, 07:29:23 PM
this one is been lifting weights and shit ;D


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: chaos on April 03, 2007, 08:49:28 PM
Yeah true. I hate to see dogs fight being that I value a dogs life more than a humans..



this post speaks volumes ;D


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: TrapsMcLats on April 04, 2007, 12:54:29 AM
so you tell us that your dog will beat any other dog and then say you despise dog owners that brag about their dog's fighting??

I never said anything about my dog, i said something about the breed.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: Euro-monster on April 04, 2007, 02:56:38 AM
I think most people are a bit biased about their own breed being the strongest or the toughest.I for one can tell you that my Neopoletan Mastiff never lost a fight in his and hers life! And that includes fichting off a very powerfull Am staff! That doesn't mean i got the strongest dog on the block but it tells me that i should have been more carefull which dog i let my dogs "play" with. It's a learning experience to see which dog is properly socialised and to read the body language of your own dog aswel as the other dog he she is encountering.
Nowadays i see a fight coming from a mile away so i walk the other way and nothing happens.

 We should all focus on socialising  our dogs to be very friendly and obedient companions instead of trying to find out which dog is the strongest.. :-\


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 05, 2007, 08:48:24 AM
I think most people are a bit biased about their own breed being the strongest or the toughest.I for one can tell you that my Neopoletan Mastiff never lost a fight in his and hers life! And that includes fichting off a very powerfull Am staff! That doesn't mean i got the strongest dog on the block but it tells me that i should have been more carefull which dog i let my dogs "play" with. It's a learning experience to see which dog is properly socialised and to read the body language of your own dog aswel as the other dog he she is encountering.
Nowadays i see a fight coming from a mile away so i walk the other way and nothing happens.

 We should all focus on socialising  our dogs to be very friendly and obedient companions instead of trying to find out which dog is the strongest.. :-\


I agree.....

Now on the topic of friendly & obedient......why are little dogs so snippy?

 ;D


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ~flower~ on April 05, 2007, 12:05:00 PM
I agree.....

Now on the topic of friendly & obedient......why are little dogs so snippy?

 ;D


     ::)  It's called spunk!!


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 05, 2007, 12:06:46 PM
Well....I am more afraid of being bit by a 10-20 lb dog than a 100-200 lb dog.


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ~flower~ on April 05, 2007, 12:11:26 PM

  Tad is only 6 1/2 pounds.   ;D



  But out of all 4, he is the one I would expect to bite someone.  He has bitten me and a few others, but never hard enough to break the skin, not that he doesn't sound like he wants to tear you to pieces.  He checks himself just enough that it isn't a real bite.     He has scared quite a few people  ;D

 
   


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 05, 2007, 12:13:50 PM
damn ankle biters

 ;D


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: Euro-monster on April 05, 2007, 01:13:00 PM
I was bitten by a Teckel ones...I swear i wanted to kick this dog to his next life but i kicked the owner instead.... ;D
Now people avoid me when they see me coming... :-\


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: ~flower~ on April 05, 2007, 05:08:57 PM
I was bitten by a Teckel ones...I swear i wanted to kick this dog to his next life but i kicked the owner instead.... ;D
Now people avoid me when they see me coming... :-\

 (Teckels are dachshunds)   


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: knny187 on April 05, 2007, 05:13:09 PM
ah....


I thought it was a misspelling


Title: Re: a challange for dog-owners
Post by: Euro-monster on April 06, 2007, 04:10:27 AM
(Teckels are dachshunds)   

Only in Germany.. ::)