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Anyone hear about this possibility?
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no....what did you hear Stunt?
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Yes I did. Got a call friend my friend just yesterday telling me his nephew went in and they loved him.
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Will this decrease the "value" of a Ferigno autograph?
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Edward Norton will be Bruce Banner...and i read they will look for a movie more like the series....maybe ,just MAYBE they will use a human to the part...
ronnie ? ;D
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Edward Norton will be Bruce Banner...and i read they will look for a movie more like the series....maybe ,just MAYBE they will use a human to the part...
ronnie ? ;D
I like Norton as Banner, could pull off the complexities, but there is no way they can use a human, even if it was for the Grey Hulk. Hulk is 7' tall and weighs around 1000 lbs, and that's before he gets REAL angry. If Ronnie was a foot taller, just maybe.
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Jay Cutler looks exactly like the hulk...lou looked nothing like him...paint jay green and people would flock to see him...and as the reigning champ, the publicity opportunity couldn't be more perfect...
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I like Norton as Banner, could pull off the complexities, but there is no way they can use a human, even if it was for the Grey Hulk. Hulk is 7' tall and weighs around 1000 lbs, and that's before he gets REAL angry. If Ronnie was a foot taller, just maybe.
the hulk of the movie was computer generated...98% of the population never saw a guy like Jay or Ronnie, specially on a movie where they appear even bigger than in real life and mostly on side of normal humans LOL
The fact that they will not be computer generated will (imho) cause even MORE shock to the usual audience..no one will believe someone has that size (the same way it hapenned to lou)
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the hulk of the movie was computer generated...98% of the population never saw a guy like Jay or Ronnie, specially on a movie where they appear even bigger than in real life and mostly on side of normal humans LOL
The fact that they will not be computer generated will (imho) cause even MORE shock to the usual audience..no one will believe someone has that size (the same way it hapenned to lou)
Still fanboys like myself would be disappointed..Hulk isn't supposed to look anywhere near what a human could attain. Thus the catch phrase "puny human."
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I like Norton as Banner, could pull off the complexities, but there is no way they can use a human, even if it was for the Grey Hulk. Hulk is 7' tall and weighs around 1000 lbs, and that's before he gets REAL angry. If Ronnie was a foot taller, just maybe.
That why I put on weight. I figured if I get to 1000 pounds I would get the role ;D
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Well, they COULD use a Pro-builder like Jay/Ronnie and just enhance the size (making Jay/Ronnie look 7feet or taller compared to the others a la Lord of the Rings where they shrunk the hobs next to Gandals etc) but keep all the proportions.
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ronnie as the hulk?
i can picture it now.
hulk smash, after i thank god, my momma, chad, brian, god, and grits !
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Well, they COULD use a Pro-builder like Jay/Ronnie and just enhance the size (making Jay/Ronnie look 7feet or taller compared to the others a la Lord of the Rings where they shrunk the hobs next to Gandals etc) but keep all the proportions.
Exactly - If they do that and use a Pro BB it will be awesome because he will not look digital - they could make a 260lb BB look like his is 8ft tall and 1000lbs and it will look real not digital!
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That why I put on weight. I figured if I get to 1000 pounds I would get the role ;D
Why not look into getting involved? You know very well they always have roles for big dudes, not sure if you care for extra work, but even a small role as a thug would be well worth it.
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Yes I did. Got a call friend my friend just yesterday telling me his nephew went in and they loved him.
::)
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They CAN'T use computer generation again, it's too corny. There are tons of BBs who can do the role and are plenty big enough standing beside a normal person. Any problems with height can be addressed.
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They CAN'T use computer generation again, it's too corny. There are tons of BBs who can do the role and are plenty big enough standing beside a normal person. Any problems with height can be addressed.
Being plenty big enough won't do justice to the character. Hulk needs to be able to get to like 10' ft tall.
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Being plenty big enough won't do justice to the character. Hulk needs to be able to get to like 10' ft tall.
This is only your interpretation as to what's big enough. No one at all was concerned that Ferrigno was "only" 6'5" or that his backup Grymko was around 6'1".
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BS, this is only your interpretation as to what's big enough. No one at all was concerned that Ferrigno was "only" 6'5" or that his backup Grymko was around 6'1".
No this is coming from a comic book fanboy's POV. I was young when Ferrigno was on TV, I suppose he was big enough for me, but now I need authenticity. I know most comic nerds would agree. Only exception I've seen so far is Wolverine being like 6' when he's supposed to be 5'3" (Jackman).
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what about matt duvall..he looks like hulk to me
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what about matt duvall..he looks like hulk to me
yeh, matt could do it. he could just say he's 7ft tall like he says he does miltary press with 635lbs for reps.
seriously though, a cut up bber may be a good idea, but he'd have to be pretty freaky after the last hulk.
height's not a problem for hollwood. they've done that shit plenty. think green mile for a good example.
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yeh, matt could do it. he could just say he's 7ft tall like he says he does miltary press with 635lbs for reps.
seriously though, a cut up bber may be a good idea, but he'd have to be pretty freaky after the last hulk.
height's not a problem for hollwood. they've done that shit plenty. think green mile for a good example.
Height wouldn't be a problem if all Hulk did was walk around and fight, but he jump like a mile high, he's gonna need to be quite mobile and that would pose a problem.
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I didn't have a problem with the computer animation
there was things they couldn't do unless it was
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I didn't have a problem with the computer animation
there was things they couldn't do unless it was
Right on, I thought it looked great.
In truth, Hulk really shouldn't look that human at all.
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the first hulk movie was terrible.
i'd love them to make a world war hulk movie in a few years if it turns out as good as it appears its going to be.
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I didn't have a problem with the computer animation
there was things they couldn't do unless it was
The cgi wasn't the problem in the first movie. The script and wooden acting by Bana and Connelly were.
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I'd love to see a little guy, e.g. Columbu-type as the hulk- Big Chest and back, Squat body, kind of stumpy.
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Yeah ..as a bodybuilder it would be great to see someone like jay or ronnie as the hulk..but the last one was computer generated.I think the audience is expecting more than a normal human being on screen. Im sure they will go computer generated again...they wont risk the box office profits on a character as popular and original as the Hulk
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I'd love to see a little guy, e.g. Columbu-type as the hulk- Big Chest and back, Squat body, kind of stumpy.
that would be great for the thing, not the hulk though.
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I dont care how they do it.
Live action dose have a more realisitc feel to it.
The ships in the original star wars.(models)Had more of a real feel to them,Then the CGI in the last one's.Chewbaca(live) Jar Jar Binks(CGI)
which looked more realistic?
I just pray to GOD it's not a llllllooooonnngggg,drawn out script.I'm begging please!!! :'(More action,less phycolgical/back story B.S. ARHG!!! >:(
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How could you not want the hulk to be real person??? I love CGI but I am not impressed by a cheesy ass looking hulk...anyone with a half a brain knows that a bodybuilder would look a hundred times better...if you want to see a cartoon then make a cartoon, but this is a movie and it should be a human interperetation of the character...I am a big comic book fan too, and two of the biggest disgraces i've ever seen are the casting of wolverine and superman...whoever the casting directors where for these movies should never work again...the look of the hero is 95% of who they are, comic books were always more than anything a visual media...
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How could you not want the hulk to be real person??? I love CGI but I am not impressed by a cheesy ass looking hulk...anyone with a half a brain knows that a bodybuilder would look a hundred times better...if you want to see a cartoon then make a cartoon, but this is a movie and it should be a human interperetation of the character...I am a big comic book fan too, and two of the biggest disgraces i've ever seen are the casting of wolverine and superman...whoever the casting directors where for these movies should never work again...the look of the hero is 95% of who they are, comic books were always more than anything a visual media...
Granted, I was quite shocked when they cast Jackman as Wolvie, considering Jackman's like 6'1" and wolvie should be about 5'3", but you have to admit he did a great interpretation of the character, pretty much all you would want in his personality. It's almost as if he channeled Clint Eastwood in some way, and I've always felt that Eastwood would be quite similar to Wolvie.
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CGI Hulk all the way... You have to CGI him... he isn't believable as "Hulk" if he's just a human.
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I dont care how they do it.
Live action dose have a more realisitc feel to it.
The ships in the original star wars.(models)Had more of a real feel to them,Then the CGI in the last one's.Chewbaca(live) Jar Jar Binks(CGI)
which looked more realistic?
Of course CGI was a major problem for large portions of the potential audience and is a big reason why it won't be repeated.
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CGI Hulk all the way... You have to CGI him... he isn't believable as "Hulk" if he's just a human.
Nice theory but no one i can remember had any problem with Ferrigno, whereas lots had probs with CGI immediately, which is akin to cartoons and kids in the minds of many.
As far as the limitations of using a human being, it might take more effort & money but that can be worked around and looks a hell of a lot better. CGI's just a way to save money and make production easier.
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Nice theory but no one i can remember had any problem with Ferrigno, whereas lots had probs with CGI immediately, which is akin to cartoons and kids in the minds of many.
As far as the limitations of using a human being, it might take more effort & money but that can be worked around and looks a hell of a lot better. CGI's just a way to save money and make production easier.
Not really... Ang Lee spent ungodly amounts of money on the CGI this time out.
Also, the problem is that everyone is busy remembering Ferrigno in the first place... I liked the CGI version much better than the Ferrigno version... maybe I'm in the minority though.
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Not really... Ang Lee spent ungodly amounts of money on the CGI this time out.
Also, the problem is that everyone is busy remembering Ferrigno in the first place... I liked the CGI version much better than the Ferrigno version... maybe I'm in the minority though.
Spending $ on CGI doesn't mean it was expensive as the alternative.
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Spending $ on CGI doesn't mean it was expensive as the alternative.
I would say it was... the actors were not A list, so the budget wasn't on them... I don't have an itemized breakdown though.
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Of course CGI was a major problem for large portions of the potential audience and is a big reason why it won't be repeated.
Hulk will be all CGI
Production company will be Rythm and Hues: http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075252/ (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075252/)
If you've seen there take on Aslan in Chronicles of Narnia, you would be impressed.
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They used a real actor for the Fantastic Four guy, The Thing,,it could work for the Hulk. Paging Mr. Cutler.
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They used a real actor for the Fantastic Four guy, The Thing,,it could work for the Hulk. Paging Mr. Cutler.
Michael Chiklis.
IMDB is a wonderful thing.
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They start shooting soon. The guy I know whose nephew is being used for all the movements has left I think to start work. I didn't like the first one either. Usually I like watching those movies over and over and I just watched that one a couple times.
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What about Markus Ruhl as the Hulk?
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Hulk will be all CGI
Production company will be Rythm and Hues: http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075252/ (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075252/)
If you've seen there take on Aslan in Chronicles of Narnia, you would be impressed.
Yes, it will be all CGI and will be very similar to the first... which is great by me... I loved CGI Hulk... Big as a TANK and it looked believable to me. (as much as a 12 foot green person could)
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Ruhl as the Hulk would've been an excellent choice.
CGI basically ensures that it appeals mainly to younger kids.
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I think some 7' feet strongman could be a good hulk. Hulk ain't that cut and he is supposed to be able to run and move around.
I agree on Jackman/Wolverine, tough that extra 8" should have been reduced from height and added to width!
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I think some 7' feet strongman could be a good hulk. Hulk ain't that cut and he is supposed to be able to run and move around.
I agree on Jackman/Wolverine, tough that extra 8" should have been reduced from height and added to width!
Yeah, you're right. Hulk ain't that cut. ::) Idiot. Read a comic once in a while.
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hahahahaha beefjake = owned
the cgi hulk was fine.
cgi didn't look cheesy in jurasic park, king kong, starwars. etc
the hulk needs to be bigger than any human could ever attain.
however, if the movie studio's were to hire mr o for the publicity rounds, that would be a good marketing tool imho. 8)
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You're exactly right. Even the most developed and huge bodybuilders would barely be able to look like an authentic captain america.
CGI is a necessity for true comic fans to buy into it.
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You're exactly right. Even the most developed and huge bodybuilders would barely be able to look like an authentic captain america.
CGI is a necessity for true comic fans to buy into it.
Anybody have any news on the movie? The release date is 6/08.
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condor in by the time a cap america film comes out any skinny guy will play it, since he's been dead for 2 months now, and rotting into a skeleton. ;D
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Anybody have any news on the movie? The release date is 6/08.
he's going to fight the abomination in it, should be good, the abomination is stronger at base strength, but the hulk will no doubt get angry at the end of the film and squash him.
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condor in by the time a cap america film comes out any skinny guy will play it, since he's been dead for 2 months now, and rotting into a skeleton. ;D
haha yes you're right ;)
I've heard rumors on the cap film, they were looking at Pitt for the role, I like Pitt but I think he's dead wrong for it, they will need to find a total all-american blonde to play him, actor Jason Lewis has the mug but you know and I know whoever they find has got to look like the greatest athlete on the planet.
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brad pitt no >:(
i have no idea who could play him. noone comes to mind :-\
i hear a while ago triple h is favorite for the thor film ! he certainly looks like him.
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Thought I would chime in since I work in the visual effects industry for film. The closer we get to photoreal CGI human beings, the weirder they look. It's a phenomena called "The Uncanny Valley" you can go look it up if you like to know more about it. But essentially it means, the closer we get to an 100% accurate representation of human beings, the more fucked up they look until we hit it dead on 100% then we can't tell the difference.
The problem is, we're only about 90% there in CGI. The technology to render a still CG image of a human is there, but the problem is, once it starts moving it begins to fall apart. We see human beings every day and even if 1 little nuance out of the 1000's of movements, lighting etc are wrong then it falls very quickly into the Uncanny valley and it freaks us out. Go watch the recently released movie Beowulf and you'll see what I mean.
I can't discuss the details of what they are doing on the movie, just know that the budget is going to be smaller this time around so that might effect things quite a bit. I'm a big fan of Norton when he's got a good director pushing him so we'll see if this turns out good.
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Yeah ..as a bodybuilder it would be great to see someone like jay or ronnie as the hulk..but the last one was computer generated.I think the audience is expecting more than a normal human being on screen. Im sure they will go computer generated again...they wont risk the box office profits on a character as popular and original as the Hulk
This is the sequel; therefor the hulk will be CGI. From what I understand, the audition is for a "stand-in or stunt", to help mark the animated hulk's actions (jump, run, walk, etc). The stand-in or stunt will wear gear to mark the hulk's skeletal proportion on set scene, for the post-prodution CGI work. They've done most of the filming in Toronto, all summer and fall.
Contrary to Emmortal, the budget is bigger. Ed Norton and Liv Tyler are box office profitable investments. There is a reasonably good budget for this sequel.
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Yea, initially it was gong to be much much smaller, I just looked it up and it's about 20 million more than the original which probably accounts for norton and tylers base pay =)
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Emmortal, Flylo, Have you guys heard of any Superboy scripts that are being passed among the major Hollywood studios? I heard such a rumor about 4 years back but nothing definite. The script is supposedly based on the newest Superboy version (the kid with the leather jacket going through the usual teen-age problems).
Do you think that Hollywood weil ever use an actor that looks like Superman is supposed to look?
Are either of you guys familiar with Giant Studios?
Thanks
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Thought I would chime in since I work in the visual effects industry for film. The closer we get to photoreal CGI human beings, the weirder they look. It's a phenomena called "The Uncanny Valley" you can go look it up if you like to know more about it. But essentially it means, the closer we get to an 100% accurate representation of human beings, the more fucked up they look until we hit it dead on 100% then we can't tell the difference.
The problem is, we're only about 90% there in CGI. The technology to render a still CG image of a human is there, but the problem is, once it starts moving it begins to fall apart. We see human beings every day and even if 1 little nuance out of the 1000's of movements, lighting etc are wrong then it falls very quickly into the Uncanny valley and it freaks us out. Go watch the recently released movie Beowulf and you'll see what I mean.
I can't discuss the details of what they are doing on the movie, just know that the budget is going to be smaller this time around so that might effect things quite a bit. I'm a big fan of Norton when he's got a good director pushing him so we'll see if this turns out good.
This film has been shrouded in secrecy. The company who created Aslan in "Narnia" are in charge of the Hulk CGI, so it seems a lock, but the lack of leaked images is cause for concern.
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They showed a preliminary CG hulk head/face at last years Comicon for about 10 seconds. And yea, that studio is called Rythm & Hues, they are the primary house doing the CG with several other studios picking up other work on it as well.
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The new trailer is out. I'll see if I can find a link.
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Emmortal, Flylo, Have you guys heard of any Superboy scripts that are being passed among the major Hollywood studios? I heard such a rumor about 4 years back but nothing definite. The script is supposedly based on the newest Superboy version (the kid with the leather jacket going through the usual teen-age problems).
Do you think that Hollywood weil ever use an actor that looks like Superman is supposed to look?
Are either of you guys familiar with Giant Studios?
Thanks
There are scripts for just about anything you can think of, including Superboy. Now, whether that means it will ever get made into a movie means absolutely nothing. The Matrix script was bought up back in I believe 1986 and didn't get made until 1997. Scripts have a tendency to float around and often die in someones vault =) As far as them using an actor of how he's supposed to look, it would really be difficult to get someone to look exactly like that, he's got very exaggerated proportions so no, probably not.
And yes, I'm very familiar with Giant Studios, what about them?
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http://incrediblehulk.marvel.com/
Trailer
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Emmortal, Flylo, Have you guys heard of any Superboy scripts that are being passed among the major Hollywood studios? I heard such a rumor about 4 years back but nothing definite. The script is supposedly based on the newest Superboy version (the kid with the leather jacket going through the usual teen-age problems).
Do you think that Hollywood weil ever use an actor that looks like Superman is supposed to look?
Are either of you guys familiar with Giant Studios?
Thanks
I've no idea about that. But, the movie "Jumper" seems to describe similar ideas.
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this is a pretty good hulk:
go to http://www.marvel.com/movietrailer
then click 'Iron Man's Adventure Conclusion'
the new movie one looks a bit weird, ripped, but lacks the muscle of the first movie.
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You're exactly right. Even the most developed and huge bodybuilders would barely be able to look like an authentic captain america.
CGI is a necessity for true comic fans to buy into it.
rofl nearly every charecter in this cartoon was 300lbs+ with abs. :D
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this is a pretty good hulk:
go to http://www.marvel.com/movietrailer
then click 'Iron Man's Adventure Conclusion'
the new movie one looks a bit weird, ripped, but lacks the muscle of the first movie.
Looks like the Dale Keown Hulk from 91-93.
(http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/081/6/c/Keown__s_Hulk_by_true_together.jpg)
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Looks like the Dale Keown Hulk from 91-93.
(http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/081/6/c/Keown__s_Hulk_by_true_together.jpg)
yes he does 8) except he's in high def 3d 8)
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Got an invite to the Incredible Hulk world premiere from my nephew but he only gets so many tickets and party invites so I told him to spread them around to the family members and I'll go if he ends up having an extra.
Those cast and crew parties are a hell of a lot of fun but I've been to enough of them and figure that I'll give some other family members a chance to meet the stars and the guys and gals behind the camera who actually get the picture made.
My most recent invite was to attend the cast and crew filming of "NEXT" - the movie where Nicholas Cage could see a bit into the future. I sat in the vicinity of some of the on-screen actors and it was more interesting watching them react to their own acting on the screen than watching the movie itself.
My biggest surprise in this movie business is watching an actor believeably become someone who they never could be but miracuously become once that camera is rolling. He/she literally transforms into someone they are NOT. SOmeone who only exists on a piece of paper called a movie Script.
Biggest and Best example of that is watching Paul Ruben become Pee Wee Herman. The first time I was introduced to him, I never knew he was actually Pee Wee.
And in my own personal opinion, John Wayne was always John Wayne in every movie he ever made. On screen and off, he was always Mr Wayne.
Another actor that always surprises me is Mark Wahlberg. One day he is gonna get an acting role that will place him on the top.
Oh, yea! I forgot to mention - my nephew played the part of both the Hulk and Abomination in this latest version. He is in every scene in which both characters appear but once he was filmed, the special FX guys took over and hulked him up.
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They CAN'T use computer generation again, it's too corny. There are tons of BBs who can do the role and are plenty big enough standing beside a normal person. Any problems with height can be addressed.
WWE Batista could do the role... He is very tall and muscular...