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We produce some great natural bodybuilders down under. However, the problem is, as soon as they start winning a few shows they disappear off the radar.
Australia has never produced a Mr Olympia or an Arnold champion ( the only two tournaments that matter).
What is going wrong down-under?
Are Aussies just more interested in the beach and babes, and less concerned about building a freaky physique?
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looking forward to readng some responses ;D
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I was going to write something about all Aussies being descended from rapists, murders, thieves and sheep rustlers but then you would fit in well at Pro shows :P
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Well the ANB is a joke first off - as soon as they get some decent drug testing criteria they may help improve the sport. I mean, the winners of each class should be tested instead of picking anyone at random. Who cares if the guy that placed last is on the gear??
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Simple we dont have access to the amount of aas, gh and all the other goodies the states and europe has. Its all dried up here because our fuck head government would rather focus on cleaning up on steroids then putting a stop to our ever growing ecstasy and ice epidemic that has hit our streets.
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We produce some great natural bodybuilders down under. However, the problem is, as soon as they start winning a few shows they disappear off the radar.
Australia has never produced a Mr Olympia or an Arnold champion ( the only two tournaments that matter).
What is going wrong down-under?
Are Aussies just more interested in the beach and babes, and less concerned about building a freaky physique?
The great late Sonny Schimidt won the Masters Mr Olympia!!!!
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Simple we dont have access to the amount of aas, gh and all the other goodies the states and europe has. Its all dried up here because our fuck head government would rather focus on cleaning up on steroids then putting a stop to our ever growing ecstasy and ice epidemic that has hit our streets.
Isn't it such a blessing that governments focus on AAS rather than the proven recreational drugs that causes deaths daily....God love the Government.... ::)
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looking forward to readng some responses ;D
As my point,Australia is one of best countries to workout !!
wonderfull food !!!
beautyfull sunshine & beaches ......
A bright future for Australian bodybuilding !
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This pic of mine (left one)was taken in 1988 IFBB World Championships ,Australia
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Awsome shot!!! Where was that show held? in Sydney?? Who competed?? do you have more pics? I love this kind of stuff!
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Awsome shot!!! Where was that show held? in Sydney?? Who competed?? do you have more pics? I love this kind of stuff!
Hi,Mate
The contest had held in Mirage Hotel ,Brisbane
I competed in L-heavy weight .(Lee Priest in ligthweight, Sonny Schmit in L-heavy weight too,.....)
In the pic I posed with China's athlete.
I try to find more pics....
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with British bodybuilder Ian Dowe.
(Ian Dowe still competing ,2004 World Amateur Championships - IFBB, Masters 50+, 2nd
2005 World Amateur Championships - IFBB, Masters 50+, 3rd)
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Thats fantastic mate!!! Try and find some shots!!! i can remember this!!! i was in Brisbane for Expo 88!!! do you remember that!! I was 12 years old! :D
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Thats fantastic mate!!! Try and find some shots!!! i can remember this!!! i was in Brisbane for Expo 88!!! do you remember that!! I was 12 years old! :D
I want to say again :Australia is a wonderfull country !!
Yes, Expo 88 had held as same time .
I visited my Australian friend in Caloundgata (?,close to airport) and war museum there ....
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I want to say again :Australia is a wonderfull country !!
Yes, Expo 88 had held as same time .
I visited my Australian friend in Caloundgata (?,close to airport) and war museum there ....
Yes Coolangatta Airport!!! Beautiful place there!!
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not much of a future. we're relying on you Luke. Stop training like a girly man and kick some arse....
j/k about the training.
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There have been several world class Australian bodybuilders. None have won the Mr Olympia but perhaps Bev Francis should have won the Ms Olympia many times.
Peter McCarthy, Adrian Batho, Dan Mahoney, Luke Wood, Lee Priest, John Terilli, Roger Walker, Frank Colombera, Terry Mitsos, Les Spendlove, Guy Grundy, Sonny Schmidt, and many others. Some won the NABBA Mr Universe like Terilli and others won international titles like Walker and McCarthy. Lots of talent downunder.
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not much of a future. we're relying on you Luke. Stop training like a girly man and kick some arse....
j/k about the training.
LOL
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Again "Hank Wood" has been exposed as another clueless troll. Australia (per capita) has produced some great bodybuilders over the years as noted by VB (Peter McCarthy, Adrian Batho, Dan Mahoney, Luke Wood, Lee Priest, John Terilli, Roger Walker, Frank Colombera, Terry Mitsos, Les Spendlove, Guy Grundy, Sonny Schmidt) all these guys developed world class physiques.
If Australia's population (20 odd million) was comparable to the US (300 million), the pro ranks would be full of Aussies.
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I may be wrong, but isn't Lee Priest and Sonny Schmidt Australian? Of course Luke Wood too.
Lisa
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;D
dude whats the name of this chick?...
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I may be wrong, but isn't Lee Priest and Sonny Schmidt Australian? Of course Luke Wood too.
Lisa
Yes i mention in a earlier post that Sonny Schmidt won the Masters Mr Olympia and yes Lee Priest won the the overall Australia title at only 17!!!
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Yes i mention in a earlier post that Sonny Schmidt won the Masters Mr Olympia and yes Lee Priest won the the overall Australia title at only 17!!!
My bad ;)
Lisa
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also dont forget guys like
neil gardner and sam ioannidis
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also dont forget guys like
neil gardner and sam ioannidis
Of course.. MONSTADWARF!!! A true legend of Aussie BB as is Sam "the man" Ioannidis, gee he had some killer wheels!
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australian people sleep when they should be awake, they have tiny mouths and bushy hair ... they drink fosters and do weird things the outback ... they call pakis lebs and feed their children to dingos
i fucking hate every last one of htem
except for gina former farnsworth :D
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arnold was Australian.
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australian people sleep when they should be awake, they have tiny mouths and bushy hair ... they drink fosters and do weird things the outback ... they call pakis lebs and feed their children to dingos
i fucking hate every last one of htem
except for gina former farnsworth :D
Gee thanks Jimmy :'(
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Yes Coolangatta Airport!!! Beautiful place there!!
Sweet!!! Coolanagatta is like 10 mins from my place. It is beautiful up here. In the picture below I've circled where I am right now, at work :(.
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australian people sleep when they should be awake, they have tiny mouths and bushy hair ... they drink fosters and do weird things the outback ... they call pakis lebs and feed their children to dingos
i fucking hate every last one of htem
except for gina former farnsworth :D
F*ck u I dont drink fosters...
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australian people sleep when they should be awake, they have tiny mouths and bushy hair ... they drink fosters and do weird things the outback ... they call pakis lebs and feed their children to dingos
i fucking hate every last one of htem
except for gina former farnsworth :D
need to correct you on a couple of things...
1. we sleep at night, awake during day. fair enough?
2. not many actually drink fosters, hardly anywhere even sells it
3. we call lebs lebs, (australians of lebanese descent)
4. *some* but not all do weird things in the outback incl feeding babies to dingos
unfortunately I don't have a comeback for the tiny mouths and bushy hair. its true.
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need to correct you on a couple of things...
1. we sleep at night, awake during day. fair enough?
2. not many actually drink fosters, hardly anywhere even sells it
3. we call lebs lebs, (australians of lebanese descent)
4. *some* but not all do weird things in the outback incl feeding babies to dingos
unfortunately I don't have a comeback for the tiny mouths and bushy hair. its true.
Well if thats true im glad!!!! If my mouth was any bigger with the amount of food i put in there at one time i would CHOKE!!!! :D
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unfortunately I don't have a comeback for the tiny mouths and bushy hair. its true.
lol :D
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Bodybuilding in Australia is alive well thanks to people like Tony Doherty! The guy is an absolute legend down under. There is not a bad word that could be said about him.
The Aussie Pro was an awesome show. Thanks for all your hard work Tony!
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Bodybuilding in Australia is alive well thanks to people like Tony Doherty! The guy is an absolute legend down under. There is not a bad word that could be said about him.
The Aussie Pro was an awesome show. Thanks for all your hard work Tony!
Which Aussie pro show was your favourite Hank and why??
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Which Aussie pro show was your favourite Hank and why??
I enjoyed the time the infamous Craig Titus came down under.
Luke, did u ever get to talk to Craig? If so, what was your impression of him? And, was this King Tamali Vs. Titus feud real, or just a magazine mock-up?
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My fave was the one that Cormier won.
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Wasn't Barbara Kendal from Oz?
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My fave was the one that Cormier won.
Chris deserved that win. I dont think anyone disagreed with that decision.
He came down under this year and did some promotional work. The guy still has mass, but is a shadow of his former self.
Would like to see 'the real deal' back on the 'big stages' again and kicking some serious-butt!
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Chris deserved that win. I dont think anyone disagreed with that decision.
He came down under this year and did some promotional work. The guy still has mass, but is a shadow of his former self.
Would like to see 'the real deal' back on the 'big stages' again and kicking some serious-butt!
I know, I caught up with CC. I disagree about your "shadow of his former self" comment... He looked on track, keep in mind he's planning on comming back at the Europa show
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arnold was Australian.
(http://www.sagen.at/texte/gegenwart/IMAGES/kangaroos.jpg)
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I enjoyed the time the infamous Craig Titus came down under.
Luke, did u ever get to talk to Craig? If so, what was your impression of him? And, was this King Tamali Vs. Titus feud real, or just a magazine mock-up?
i read lukes comment in MMI about his thoughts on Titus's shananigans last year. He said something about sharing a cab with craig and he seemed like a swell guy.
personally i dont believe luke was qualified to comment on craigs character based on those circumstances
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I know, I caught up with CC. I disagree about your "shadow of his former self" comment... He looked on track, keep in mind he's planning on comming back at the Europa show
Fair enough. I wish Chris well in his comeback. That long stint in hospital ravaged his body.
I take your word for it and hope that he is ontrack for the Europa.
I feel that Chris has been very unlucky. I kind of see the guy as a Mr Olympia that never was!
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Fair enough. I wish Chris well in his comeback. That long stint in hospital ravaged his body.
I take your word for it and hope that he is ontrack for the Europa.
I feel that Chris has been very unlucky. I kind of see the guy as a Mr Olympia that never was!
fingers crossed and hopefully he'll stay injury free..I'd like to see him win the O.. I remember as a young trainer when Chris got his pro card and done his first flex interview/article I was really impressed 8)
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Chris is very popular down under.
He appeared on one our footy shows. The crowd loved him. He came across as very humble and polite.
i would love to see him do some damage in the O as well.
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Was Sonny Schmidt an Aussie? I know he was of Samoan descent, but thought for some reason, he was Kiwi.
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Was Sonny Schmidt an Aussie? I know he was of Samoan descent, but thought for some reason, he was Kiwi.
The Aussies adopted Sonnie as one their own. The big guy never forgot his heritage though.
He was a true family man. Unfortunately a stint in the can was the low, in a most brilliant career!
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The Aussies adopted Sonnie as one their own. The big guy never forgot his heritage though.
He was a true family man. Unfortunately a stint in the can was the low, in a most brilliant career!
My boyfriend that died lived in Australia for 20 some years and owned a gym there too...do you know him, Hank?
Lisa
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Yes, Sonny won the Master's Olympia and then died not long after that.
He was not born in Australia, he is of islander heritage.
The Aussies like to claim him as one of their own. His family would become outraged when the public referred to their Sonny as the guy from 'down under'.
RIP Sonny. All the Aussies wish we could have adopted you!
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Yes, Sonny won the Master's Olympia and then died not long after that.
He was not born in Australia, he is of islander heritage.
The Aussies like to claim him as one of their own. His family would become outraged when the public referred to their Sonny as the guy from 'down under'.
RIP Sonny. All the Aussies wish we could have adopted you!
Sonny was Somoan heritage but became a Aussie citizen.. He did win the Mr Australia
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Sonny never forgot his roots. He loved the Australian culture but his heart was always in the islands.
An awesome presence in BB. He will never be forgotten in this country.
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Wasn't Barbara Kendal from Oz?
yeah from perth... she was hot too!
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Those who come from other countries are seldom considered Aussies even though they take out Australian citizenship. You have to live here to appreciate that. I have been here for 36 years but will never be an Aussie. The lads know that. I don't consider myself a Canadian anymore but there you are.
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Those who come from other countries are seldom considered Aussies even though they take out Australian citizenship. You have to live here to appreciate that. I have been here for 36 years but will never be an Aussie. The lads know that. I don't consider myself a Canadian anymore but there you are.
True Vince.
We are very protective of our country and its people. We find it hard to accept outsiders. However, we will embrace them if they show our country respect and dignity.
Aussies are a unique breed. We live for the beaches and the sunshine. We have a very relaxed lifestyle and are probably the easiest going people on the planet.
We like our BB too! OK, only some of us do.
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True Vince.
We are very protective of our country and its people. We find it hard to accept outsiders. However, we will embrace them if they show our country respect and dignity.
Aussies are a unique breed. We live for the beaches and the sunshine. We have a very relaxed lifestyle and are probably the easiest going people on the planet.
We like our BB too! OK, only some of us do.
Well said Hank :)
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If Australia's population (20 odd million)
That's less than either California or Texas individually.
And they call themselves a country?? ::)
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That's less than either California or Texas individually.
And they call themselves a country?? ::)
We are an island continent with a very small population. We are a passionate group of people that love sports of all kinds.
Aussies have hearts of gold. We feel we are blessed living in this great land.
The sun is always shining and our beaches have crystal clear water.
The gyms down under are some of the best in the world!
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That's less than either California or Texas individually.
And they call themselves a country?? ::)
I know ::)
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The women are nice here. Otherwise I wouldn't still be here!
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The women are nice here. Otherwise I wouldn't still be here!
But you're a chubby-chaser, Vince!
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The crop of young women are getting fatter. This place will be like California in a few years! The Aussie women don't mind foreign men. Even black men have fun down here.
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Australia is a beach culture.
It is all about lifestyle down under. The waves, beautiful sun-tanned bodies and Barbecues!
The Aussies are so happy and relaxed. They are a welcoming and fun loving people.
Lots of fresh and healthy food down under. We are all into fitness and the great outdoors.....The best place in the world!!!!!!!!!
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I used to think the Aussies love the beach. The truth is most of the famous beaches have tourists on them. Bondi, Coogee, Manly, Surfers Paradise, Byron Bay. We have at least 15 major beaches in Sydney alone. The truth is you can go to most in the summer and not be crowded. The Aussies might love their beaches but most don't swim at them.
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I used to think the Aussies love the beach. The truth is most of the famous beaches have tourists on them. Bondi, Coogee, Manly, Surfers Paradise, Byron Bay. We have at least 15 major beaches in Sydney alone. The truth is you can go to most in the summer and not be crowded. The Aussies might love their beaches but most don't swim at them.
maybe you and your "floatation device" scares us off? ;D
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I am usually up on the sidewalk taking photos.
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The beach is the symbol of the Australian way of life. Yes, they are very popular in the summertime. But that only adds to the energy and the atmospere of it all.
Vince, you sound so negative on our way of life. Remember that you cant have a full appreciation of this great land because you were not born here! You will always be an onlooker, nothing more.
You have to born in Australia to be Australian; dont you ever forget that!
Look for the beauty in this land Vince, it is everywhere.
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I am usually up on the sidewalk taking photos.
That's what I mean.. You're taking pics with the rubberduckie around your guts. ;D
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never be an aussie who would want to be, i live here and im glad to be an immigrant, this place would still be a penal colony if it wasnt for all the immigrants that civilised these inbreds, all the aussies are on social security, they whinge about the lebs but most of them just sell drugs, aussies are either unemployed or drug users or usually both. They hate the lebs as they have to buy drugs of them and dont like their prices, and their to stupid to make them themselves, aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi, how fucken stupids that, thats the dumb girls mentality.
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never be an aussie who would want to be, i live here and im glad to be an immigrant, this place would still be a penal colony if it wasnt for all the immigrants that civilised these inbreds, all the aussies are on social security, they whinge about the lebs but most of them just sell drugs, aussies are either unemployed or drug users or usually both. They hate the lebs as they have to buy drugs of them and dont like their prices, and their to stupid to make them themselves, aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi, how fucken stupids that, thats the dumb girls mentality.
You are angry and resentful of this great land! I respect your view.
You make some powerful allegations about our way of life down under! I hope that one day you find happiness.
Please forgive us for our treatment of these new-arrivals. Yes, the immigrants have helped build this beautiful country. Without you people Australia would still be nothing.
The Aussies are still the most caring and joyous of people on this planet.
Come and enjoy our unique way of life, you will love it. I will even throw a shrimp on the barbie for ya!
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I taught high school PE for 10 years in Sydney and have had a gym since August 1971. I still do not have a close male friend in Australia. They have a mateship system here and outsiders are usually excluded. I don't think the guys here like that foreigners come down here to be with some of their women. Like I said, the Aussie women almost prefer foreign men. Canadians and Yanks have no trouble finding partners here.
I always wonder what people do in the summer in Sydney. Most of the week they don't go to the beach. You find big crowds on Sundays and holidays but that is about it. Many prefer to go to shopping centres. I know all the shopping centres in Sydney because I like shopping.
The Aussies and Yanks share a similar lifestyle if you ask me. Too bad the sports played in Australia don't interest me. It was a pain to teach Aussie kids PE. I managed to figure out the difference between league and union. I prefer ice hockey, gridiron and baseball to cricket, rugby league and Aussie rules. People overseas probably don't appreciate that Sydney has one code of football called Rugby League. You score a try by having to touch the ball down in the end zone. In Melbourne, Perth, and Adelaide they play Aussie Rules. They have a team in Sydney and one in Brisbane.
It really is weird the way so many things are different in Australia. I was up in Brisbane years ago and someone asked me where I was from. I told him I was from Canada. He didn't want to know that. He wondered where I was from in Australia! That seemed weird to me. When you look at the history of Australia it was settled as colonies and each did their own thing even though all were controlled from England.
This is a great country but things are changing and their open policy is allowing cultural diversity instead of the American way of everyone becoming an American. Lots of Asian and Middle East people settling here now. Australia might eventually be part of Asia in a century or two.
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My boyfriend that died lived in Australia for 20 some years and owned a gym there too...do you know him, Hank?
Lisa
Ready for the answer, Hank!!!! Waiting!!!!!!
Lisa
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Where did he own a gym? First name?
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The great late Sonny Schimidt won the Masters Mr Olympia!!!!
Sonny wasn't a born and breed Australian, he moved there once he was progressing through the bodybuilding ranks.
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The Islanders seem to love Australia and many are making Australia their home.
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Sonny wasn't a born and breed Australian, he moved there once he was progressing through the bodybuilding ranks.
Yes, Sonny came from the Pacific Islands.. He did settle in Australia. He had a love for this great land.
People are quick to demonise our way of life down under. Yes, we are a simple people with simple pleasures. We enjoy a cold beer, a meat pie and watching a game of footy.
I am a proud Aussie.
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Hahn are making Super Dry now. A good beer.
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never be an aussie who would want to be, i live here and im glad to be an immigrant, this place would still be a penal colony if it wasnt for all the immigrants that civilised these inbreds, all the aussies are on social security, they whinge about the lebs but most of them just sell drugs, aussies are either unemployed or drug users or usually both. They hate the lebs as they have to buy drugs of them and dont like their prices, and their to stupid to make them themselves, aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi, how fucken stupids that, thats the dumb girls mentality.
Than leave mate!!! you just gave me (A PURE AUSSIE) a good compliment on another thread and than you say that about this beautiful country and its people!! Those men and women who fought and died in World War 1 and 2 and Vietnam and all the other battles!! My father alot with the Americans fought in Vietnam and with these horrible wars we encounted Australia would not be the beautiful place it is and the beautiful people here!!! Yes there are good and bad in all races, but your post is way out of line!!! This is why so many immigrants flock to Australia because of the way we have made it, we welcome everyone and give everyone a chance to love Australia as us Australians do!
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The women are nice here. Otherwise I wouldn't still be here!
Are you serious Vince?? I know you are joking mate!!!
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A pure aussie, your not black enough convict, ;D lets face it Lukey boy your as aussie as the kangaroos in the souvenir shops, all made in china, and if your so aussie why wasnt you at Cronulla with all the other pie eaters,reclaiming the beaches from the lebs, for fucks sake ive never seen you with a VB in your hand, all be it ive seen you in thongs, no sandals, see you cant even get that right, your as aussie as imported tea, your the worst type of aussie you wear sandals when you should wear thongs a dead set sell out, i bet you dont even like vegemite probably hasnt got enough protein in it, or it smooths you out from to much sodium, thats not aussie mate, thats fair dinkum fucked, im more aussie than you.
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I am a proud Australian. I love this country. It has vast natural beauty, the people are kind and generous and there is opportunity for everyone.
This country was built from hard work. My great-grandfather and grandfather fought in both the world-wars; and survived. 3 of my uncles went to Vietnam.
These men were prepared to die for this country. They are heroes in my eyes.
Long live the aussies.
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What is this knocking Aussies? Seems uncalled for.
I have family and friends in BC and Alberta. I always wanted to live in California but came to Australia instead. So my heart is not really here. I have grandchildren in Vancouver but also have 3 children in Sydney. If I had my gym in California it would be world famous.
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What is this knocking Aussies? Seems uncalled for.
I have family and friends in BC and Alberta. I always wanted to live in California but came to Australia instead. So my heart is not really here. I have grandchildren in Vancouver but also have 3 children in Sydney. If I had my gym in California it would be world famous.
Vince, you are living life in rear view mirror again...What do you mean by the statement; ''if i had my gym in California it would be world famous" Are you serious or just being provocative?
You sound that you have many regrets in your life. You wanted to live in California but chose Australia instead? For christ sake get over it!
Your reality is your head Vince, not tied up in a geographical location! You of all people should be aware of this fact!
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Hi,Aussie mate
In Taiwan no one (except me) know Australian bodybuilders !
But most women here KNOW "Australia's Thunder From Down Under"'s dancers !!!
I remember when the sexy Australian male dancers came to Taiwan a few years ago ,Taiwanese women went to crazy !!! >:( >:( >:( Damn !! ;D ;D
So if Australian bodybuilders can do the same performance ,the you guys have a bright future !! ;D ;D
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We have beautiful weather down under. And because of that, many play sports of all kinds.
The gym culture has grown huge. They are popping up everywhere.
If you have never been to Australia, make sure you put it on the calendar.
It would have to be the most amazing place in the world. When i travel, i miss home so much.
The friendly aussies and fun loving beach-lifestyle is addictive.
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A pure aussie, your not black enough convict, ;D lets face it Lukey boy your as aussie as the kangaroos in the souvenir shops, all made in china, and if your so aussie why wasnt you at Cronulla with all the other pie eaters,reclaiming the beaches from the lebs, for fucks sake ive never seen you with a VB in your hand, all be it ive seen you in thongs, no sandals, see you cant even get that right, your as aussie as imported tea, your the worst type of aussie you wear sandals when you should wear thongs a dead set sell out, i bet you dont even like vegemite probably hasnt got enough protein in it, or it smooths you out from to much sodium, thats not aussie mate, thats fair dinkum fucked, im more aussie than you.
Mate i don't know weather to laugh at your post or not, but i take it you are taking the piss out of me, so i will just see it as that!! Oh and i do like vegemite!!! ;)
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Not everyone thinks that Australia is such an amazing place.
There are those who take the freedoms that we have for granted. They fail to acknowledge, that our fathers and grandfathers, fought to defend the freedoms we now enjoy today!
Yes, this country was discovered and settled by the English. The convicts they brought over did help to build this country. We owe them gratitude for creating wonderful cities where nothing existed before!
I am proud of Australia's heritage. I can walk down the street and hold my head up high. I am an Aussie and i am free!
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Hank, this country was already settled by Aborigines. It didn't need to be discovered. It was more like an invasion. Yes, it is a great place to live. Most of Australia doesn't even have a winter. In Sydney there are flowers blooming 12 months of the year. That is part of the reason I chose to live here. Sydney has over 4 million people so is a cosmopolitan city of many things and has a harbour that is probably the best in the world. Hills are near by and that provides some variation in the landscape.
The sense of humour of the Aussies is unlike Americans or Canadians. I still can't always work out when some are joking because they make fun by pretending to be telling the truth. Overseas we do the opposite and make fun by telling the truth. Beats me why more don't find me amusing down here. The Aussies were friendly when the Sydney Olympics were on. Since then they have gone back to being more reserved and tend to mind their own business and expect the same. Thankfully, they don't drop into neighbours homes like you see on sitcoms from America. The main thing we don't have here is the Jerry Springer Show. If we did we would be able to hear everything said and all the nudity. This country costs heaps to get here and go visiting. The time zone suck, too, because we are out of sync with America and Europe.
The Aussies don't like anyone knocking their country. No matter how long you live here it isn't appreciated if you say negative things about the place if you come from overseas. They, of course, can say whatever they like. They think they are friendly but they aren't as friendly as the Canadians are. The Yanks are friendly if they think they can get something from you, especially money!
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We produce some great natural bodybuilders down under. However, the problem is, as soon as they start winning a few shows they disappear off the radar.
Australia has never produced a Mr Olympia or an Arnold champion ( the only two tournaments that matter).
What is going wrong down-under?
Are Aussies just more interested in the beach and babes, and less concerned about building a freaky physique?
I'm not going to get involved in all the racial BS on this thread, but as far as the reason that us Aussies are not doing so well in Pro BBing, well, I think that was answered somewhere else on this thread. We are a small population, so therefore the odds are against us producing Mr Olympia's every year. For the amount of population that we have, I think we have done quite well, as per the list of champion Aussie BBers posted on this thread.
Anyway, at that level, politics is a big part of how successful you will become. I don't believe that there will ever be another Mr Olympia that doesn't end up moving to the US. Dorian will be known as the last "foreigner" to win a Mr Olympia. The Olympia has really become a boring show. Three winners in around 20yrs. Wow, how exciting. Added to that is the fact that it is always held in the US. It was a much better show when it traveled around the world. As a contest, it's shit IMO.
As far as the state of BBing in Aust is, well, to be honest, I reckon it's a bit of a mess. Too many shows, too many classes, not enough competitors. Our comps over here are rewarding mediocrity, It's terrible. I went to a show on Saturday that had 50 competitors. It had 23 classes. Every second person won. WTF? It was ridiculous. There are no real contests here anymore, just line-ups of 2-3 if you are lucky, quite often just one competitor per class.
Our BBers are not made to work hard enough IMO. They just walk up & win. We have 6 BBing federations here. Each one has National titles, each one has weight/height classes, so in theory, you can have around 40 people a year running around saying they are Mr Aust, & that's just the blokes! The women have physique, figure, fitness & now this fucking wanky Sportsmodel/Glamour/Bikini classes. What a fucking nightmare they are!
We have you bloody Yanks to thank for those bullshit classes! Thanks very fucking much! Do you guys really watch that shit? What on earth has it got to do with BBing?
Anyway, another reason that we are treading water over here is that we have no publicity or promotion for our BBers, as in a decent magazine. All we read is what you guys are doing. No offense, but who gives a fuck? We want to know what's going on in our own Country, not yours. Our BBing publications over here are a joke! I will name them: Ironman, MuscleMag, Muscle & Fitness & Flex. They put in around 4 pages of Aussie content if we are lucky. It's a bloody disgrace.
Well, I'm doing something about it. Today I take the very first issue of Hardcore Aussie Muscle to the printers. This is a brand new Aussie BBing magazine. And guess what! It's only got comps & profiles on Aussie BBers. It's made here in Melb & will hopefully become the voice of Australian BBing. If you win a comp, we'll be there to report on it. It's like nothing that you have ever seen before! I'm gonna go out on a limb & say that it's the best looking magazine that you have ever seen, better than the ones you have in the US!
Our website is up & running, although we have yet to get the forum & the gallery operating, but at least you can have a look at what the magazine is all about. It would be remiss of me not to mention Rocco Oppedisanno's "Muscle Australia" magazine. It was awesome & to this day is the only decent Aussie magazine to be published. It finished back in the 80's, that's how long it's been since we had anything decent to read over here!
It's taken me 20yrs to get around to it, but here it is. I hope you enjoy it.
www.hardcoeaussiemuscle. com.au
Craig Lucas. (Outlaw53)
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THATS MY MAN OUTLAW!!! ;)
BUT ALSO MATE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO DID GET THERE FROM AUSTRALIA DID DO THE HARD YARDS AND IT WAS'NT THAT EASY! ;)
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never be an aussie who would want to be, i live here and im glad to be an immigrant, this place would still be a penal colony if it wasnt for all the immigrants that civilised these inbreds, all the aussies are on social security, they whinge about the lebs but most of them just sell drugs, aussies are either unemployed or drug users or usually both. They hate the lebs as they have to buy drugs of them and dont like their prices, and their to stupid to make them themselves, aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi, how fucken stupids that, thats the dumb girls mentality.
i feel bad for lebs. everyone in sydney hates them, not just "aussie" white people but aborigines, asians, italians, greeks, even other muslims eg turkish, egyptian
they are the pariahs of sydney society. a few bad eggs spoil it for the whole batch.
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Craig tells it the way it is. Too many organizations and hardly any press for the bodybuilders. Ironman magazine gets published as a different magazine in Australia. It fails to match the one people buy in North America. I wrote to John Balik complaining about the quality years ago. A couple of pages with small photos showing occasional results of some of the contests and not much more. Also, the editor lived in Melbourne and most of the content was about the local scene.
If someone can publish a quality magazine with good images and interesting articles it could be successful in Australia. There are several fitness publications that are still published here but no pure bodybuilding magazine. There are many stories of interest here in Australia. The gym scene, equipment, people, results, training, theories, etc.
My gym, my equipment or myself have never been mentioned in any Australia bodybuilding publication. Ironman is published here in an Aussie version yet the local editor has never invited me to write articles or send photos to them. I did two articles for US Ironman in 2000 and 2001. Curious omissions if you ask me.
Part of the reason we have so many contests over here is because of the history of contests since 1970. Paul Graham was elected in 1972 to head the IFBB and many people along the way have not been happy with the way he and Carol run things. Paul remains no matter what anyone else says because there are no elections for his position. When he was defeated in past elections he simply changed the name of his organization and retained his position with the IFBB. Since most bodybuilders want to be Mr Olympia they compete in the IFBB. Other organizations have popped up or have affiliated with overseas organizations like NABBA. Each has shows and classes and there are way too many Mr Australia winners each year as was pointed out. The IFBB, until recently here, didn't have an overall winner in the Mr Australia so that didn't reward the bodybuilders as they should have done.
The other factor that has caused so much splintering is that hardly any drug testing is done in open contests. This has led to our having not one but two natural organizations and their rules are different about who can compete as a natural. Bodybuilders, as most know, will enter any contest where they think they can win a title or a trophy!
Good for Craig if he can pull a rabbit out of the hat. If his magazine has great photos and sticks to featuring all the Aussie bodybuilders, etc., it should be successful. I hope he doesn't follow the US lead by having mostly advertisements.
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I'm not going to get involved in all the racial BS on this thread, but as far as the reason that us Aussies are not doing so well in Pro BBing, well, I think that was answered somewhere else on this thread. We are a small population, so therefore the odds are against us producing Mr Olympia's every year. For the amount of population that we have, I think we have done quite well, as per the list of champion Aussie BBers posted on this thread.
Anyway, at that level, politics is a big part of how successful you will become. I don't believe that there will ever be another Mr Olympia that doesn't end up moving to the US. Dorian will be known as the last "foreigner" to win a Mr Olympia. The Olympia has really become a boring show. Three winners in around 20yrs. Wow, how exciting. Added to that is the fact that it is always held in the US. It was a much better show when it traveled around the world. As a contest, it's shit IMO.
As far as the state of BBing in Aust is, well, to be honest, I reckon it's a bit of a mess. Too many shows, too many classes, not enough competitors. Our comps over here are rewarding mediocrity, It's terrible. I went to a show on Saturday that had 50 competitors. It had 23 classes. Every second person won. WTF? It was ridiculous. There are no real contests here anymore, just line-ups of 2-3 if you are lucky, quite often just one competitor per class.
Our BBers are not made to work hard enough IMO. They just walk up & win. We have 6 BBing federations here. Each one has National titles, each one has weight/height classes, so in theory, you can have around 40 people a year running around saying they are Mr Aust, & that's just the blokes! The women have physique, figure, fitness & now this fucking wanky Sportsmodel/Glamour/Bikini classes. What a fucking nightmare they are!
We have you bloody Yanks to thank for those bullshit classes! Thanks very fucking much! Do you guys really watch that shit? What on earth has it got to do with BBing?
Anyway, another reason that we are treading water over here is that we have no publicity or promotion for our BBers, as in a decent magazine. All we read is what you guys are doing. No offense, but who gives a fuck? We want to know what's going on in our own Country, not yours. Our BBing publications over here are a joke! I will name them: Ironman, MuscleMag, Muscle & Fitness & Flex. They put in around 4 pages of Aussie content if we are lucky. It's a bloody disgrace.
Well, I'm doing something about it. Today I take the very first issue of Hardcore Aussie Muscle to the printers. This is a brand new Aussie BBing magazine. And guess what! It's only got comps & profiles on Aussie BBers. It's made here in Melb & will hopefully become the voice of Australian BBing. If you win a comp, we'll be there to report on it. It's like nothing that you have ever seen before! I'm gonna go out on a limb & say that it's the best looking magazine that you have ever seen, better than the ones you have in the US!
Our website is up & running, although we have yet to get the forum & the gallery operating, but at least you can have a look at what the magazine is all about. It would be remiss of me not to mention Rocco Oppedisanno's "Muscle Australia" magazine. It was awesome & to this day is the only decent Aussie magazine to be published. It finished back in the 80's, that's how long it's been since we had anything decent to read over here!
It's taken me 20yrs to get around to it, but here it is. I hope you enjoy it.
www.hardcoeaussiemuscle. com.au
Craig Lucas. (Outlaw53)
Good luck with this new venture outlaw!
Australia has some amazing bodybuilders.
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Hey Outlaw, are you still running that show in Bendmeover in Victoria.
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The magazine is going to do really well down under.
The bodybuilding scene is alive and well and is looking forward to a publication of this kind.
Australia is an amazing place. Beautiful climate and environment with the friendliest people on the planet.
Come down and visit us! You wont want to leave!
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Hey Outlaw, are you still running that show in Bendmeover in Victoria.
Yeah, it's still going. It looks like being bigger & better this year.
Here's a link to it. www.hardcoremusclepromot ions.com.au
There are around 500 pics. Feel free to check them out.
Cheers.
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[Good for Craig if he can pull a rabbit out of the hat. If his magazine has great photos and sticks to featuring all the Aussie bodybuilders, etc., it should be successful. I hope he doesn't follow the US lead by having mostly advertisements. [/color]
We have an ad-to-content ratio of 4-1. For every 4 pages of content, there is one ad.
I have shitloads of content, I just need more advertisers. I have enough, but if I can get more, I can print more content.
The photos are awesome, don't worry about that. I have also got plenty of old photos from the 60's & 70's.
Robert Nailon & Rocco have been very generous & supportive.
You won't be disappointed, unless you want to see Bikini girls. There are none. BBers only.
No male models, no bimbos. They are well & truly catered for in other publications.
We are a true & honest BBing magazine. We won't be trying to win over the general public with gimmick type articles.
I look forward to your response once you have read it.
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Outlaw, you are not compromising the values of a hard-core bodybuilding magazine by including women in swimsuits.
I applaud you for remaining true to the cause! However, having a section devoted to beautiful women will enhance, not detract from the magazine (only my opinion).
I believe that advertisers would be more responsive to a magazine of this kind, if 'famale content' was included.
To tell you the truth, hard-core-bodybuilding-fans generally really enjoy looking at gorgeous women in bikinis (as well as heavily muscled men).
Just a thought. Not hating, just offering an idea!
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Outlaw, you are not compromising the values of a hard-core bodybuilding magazine by including women in swimsuits.
I applaud you for remaining true to the cause! However, having a section devoted to beautiful women will enhance, not detract from the magazine (only my opinion).
I believe that advertisers would be more responsive to a magazine of this kind, if 'famale content' was included.
To tell you the truth, hard-core-bodybuilding-fans generally really enjoy looking at gorgeous women in bikinis (as well as heavily muscled men).
Just a thought. Not hating, just offering an idea!
Thanks for the feedback, a few others share your concerns.
I'm not changing a thing. I believe we can succeed without bimbos. They don't deserved to be covered by a BBing publication.
There are plenty of other opportunities for them.
BBers don't have a special section in other magazines, so why should we have bimbos in our's?
I'm not after cheap votes or public approval. I don't want to do what everyone else does.
I'll just give it a try this way first, and see what happens.
There are quite a few good looking Figure, Fitness & Physique girls over here.
We'll use them instead.
I hope you are going to buy one?
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Outlaw, you evidently know what you want from this magazine. You are staying true to your core beliefs about bodybuilding and that is commendable.
Availability: Will your magazine be available for sale in gyms? Supplements sell very well at the big commercial gyms and i think there is a market for a high quality magazine like yours.
Have you approached Doherty's, Five Star, Bell St. Fitness and the YMCA's to act as distribution outlets for your mag???
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Outlaw, you evidently know what you want from this magazine. You are staying true to your core beliefs about bodybuilding and that is commendable.
Availability: Will your magazine be available for sale in gyms? Supplements sell very well at the big commercial gyms and i think there is a market for a high quality magazine like yours.
Have you approached Doherty's, Five Star, Bell St. Fitness and the YMCA's to act as distribution outlets for your mag???
Yep. Already done. Quite a few gyms & supplement shops want to sell it, including both Tony's.
It's available via subscription & it will be in around 2,000 newsagents all around Australia.
How's that?
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That's great news.
Are you going to create a website for the magazine?
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That's great news.
Are you going to create a website for the magazine?
I thought I posted it before.
Here it is in case you missed it.
There is a bit of work to do, but at least you get a rough idea of what the magazine is all about.
www.hardcoreaussiemuscle .com.au
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geez hank keep up mate! :)
this aint no half arsed effort ya know!!
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Your right monsta. i was over there checking out the website. It is a team effort and looking very professional.
Will you be contributing to the magazine? You have a lot of experiene in the gym, with diets and shows. It would be good to have you on board!
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Where did he own a gym? First name?
The gym was called "Tugun Gym" and i'm assuming it was in the town of Tugun...his name was Hans.
Lisa
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Your right monsta. i was over there checking out the website. It is a team effort and looking very professional.
Will you be contributing to the magazine? You have a lot of experiene in the gym, with diets and shows. It would be good to have you on board!
Monsta has written a great piece for our first issue. It's our very first article.
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Hi, Lisa. Tugun is on the Gold Coast in Queensland. That is a small town along the strip there so the gym would have served the locals. There are a lot of gyms like that in Australia. Sorry, I didn't know Hans.
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Monsta is very entertaining and knowledgable. i look forward to his contributions.
Outlaw, do you have any other writers lined up? Tony Doherty would be of great value!
Any plans to distribute the magazine internationally? I think our close Asian neighbours would be very interested in a mag of this nature. They have a very strong bodybuilding network.
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Monsta is very entertaining and knowledgable. i look forward to his contributions.
Outlaw, do you have any other writers lined up? Tony Doherty would be of great value!
Any plans to distribute the magazine internationally? I think our close Asian neighbours would be very interested in a mag of this nature. They have a very strong bodybuilding network.
Tony's offered to write about a few of his funny experiences in BBing which would be great. As far as the International scene goes, New Zealand is as far ahead as we are looking, but that's probably a good 12mths away in reality. We're in no rush. One step at a time.
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Fair enough.
Tony would be a great addition to the magazine. I have watched a lot his 'muscle tv' series and found that to be very enjoyable viewing.
Will you be having a section on 'pharmaceuticals' ? Or will you be staying from this controversial subject while the mag is in its infancy?
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Fair enough.
Tony would be a great addition to the magazine. I have watched a lot his 'muscle tv' series and found that to be very enjoyable viewing.
Will you be having a section on 'pharmaceuticals' ? Or will you be staying from this controversial subject while the mag is in its infancy?
Nup. Nothing on the juice. By the time it goes to print, it'd be secondhand news.
The internet is the place to keep up with that sort of information.
Just Contest reports & Profiles basically, with a few odd bits & pieces in-between.
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Nup. Nothing on the juice. By the time it goes to print, it'd be secondhand news.
The internet is the place to keep up with that sort of information.
Just Contest reports & Profiles basically, with a few odd bits & pieces in-between.
good idea.
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great :)
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The 1980 Mr. Olympia was held in Sydney, Australia. Gee, those were the days.
I think it is a pity that the Olympia competition does not travel to other world cities anymore.
Staying in Las Vegas is a poor move. The IFBB must address this issue.
Put the Olympia back on the road. It will create enthusiasm and awareness for this so-called sport.
Bodybuilding is suffering appalling ratings; something must change!
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u should look to mother england for inspriation for your mag,, weve had the beef running here for yrs and its the only mag the competative lads bother with, profiles on up and cumming bb's, contest results etc etc
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The 1980 Mr. Olympia was held in Sydney, Australia. Gee, those were the days.
I think it is a pity that the Olympia competition does not travel to other world cities anymore.
Staying in Las Vegas is a poor move. The IFBB must address this issue.
Put the Olympia back on the road. It will create enthusiasm and awareness for this so-called sport.
Bodybuilding is suffering appalling ratings; something must change!
I'd like to see the Mr O back "on the road" but it wont happen at least for a while as it doesn't make much money outside of Los Vegas
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u should look to mother england for inspriation for your mag,, weve had the beef running here for yrs and its the only mag the competative lads bother with, profiles on up and cumming bb's, contest results etc etc
Localhero, that is a great idea. The Beef is a brilliant and highly popular mag amongst the hard core bodybuilders in the UK.
Outlaw, have you taken on any of The Beef's ideas and concepts? Their formula is very impressive. It is a good model for a mag.
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I'd like to see the Mr O back "on the road" but it wont happen at least for a while as it doesn't make much money outside of Los Vegas
You're right, the O does not make much money outside LV. However, i think if it were to go 'on the road' it could tap into many potentially lucrative markets.
OK, in the short term, the IFBB would run at a loss. That is why a wider vision of where the sport is going, is required.
This so-called sport has some many indemic problems. Taking the O internationally could solve them.
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u should look to mother england for inspriation for your mag,, weve had the beef running here for yrs and its the only mag the competative lads bother with, profiles on up and cumming bb's, contest results etc etc
Funny you should say that.
Beef was definitely an ispiration for me. I would rate it as the best bodybuilding magazine in the world, as far as supporting local contests go. It's my favorite magazine. The self depreciating & dry sense of humour of their writers is awesome.
Both our magazines have a "common" link, photographer Gary Phillips. This will allow us to swap photos & information. The idea being that if any Poms come over here & compete, we can send some photos & text to Beef & vica-versa. We also having a great relationship with Kris at Kaged Muscle. Once again, we will be able to share & swap information.
Pretty cool huh? Three independant magazines working together.