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Title: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:07:27 AM
ok
i got dozens of members here asking me for an example for pro bodybuilder cycles,,as i said many times before in general,,we do not get completely off drugs we only reduce the number of products/doses etc,,

what i will do here is give you a typical top pro routine,,THIS SHOULD NOT BE IMMITATED! THIS IS FOR BODYBUILDERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL STAGES OF HORMONE USE,,THIS IS NOT FOR BEGGINERS NOR IS IT FOR THE RECREATIONAL USER!  i did not write the following but it is best describe a high level pro bodybuilder routine and i confirm this post

again be careful and dont think that by doing the same you will get same results,,you need the genetic response to be there in the first place! you need to be able to compete locally and do well with a lot less hormones

enjoy



PRE-CONTEST:

10-7 WEEKS OUT

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

6-2 WEEKS OUT:

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg’s at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

WEEKS 2 AND FIRST HALF OF WEEK 1:

Same as above except the Nubain is dropped, as it is unnecessary, as well as the IGF-1 is dropped.

Also one extra ampoule of Parabolan and Masteron per day.

LAST THREE DAYS:

Uses neoton 500, creatine phosphate (its an injectable I believe) in his carb deplete/load, he was unspecific on dosages

Two days out he uses Lasix (still a favorite) 80 mg four times a day, for two days.

The newest thing out is a plasma expander, by the name of

Groenaut, apparently from Europe, this works much in the same way as Glycerol in that it drams water out from underneath the skin and into the muscle and bloodstream leaving a very dry full look if it is done correctly, of course as with high stakes bodybuilding there is that ever apparent degree of risk, the risk here is mixing a diuretic which dumps the water from the system and a drug that tries to pull the water in, if the effect is too great, the least that could happen is that you don’t fill out and you look flat, dry but flat, the worst well the drug tends to favor skeletal muscle over smooth cardiac muscle, hence you are then in shit street as your heart dehydrates, and cardiac arrest kicks in, (not the same thing as Momo, though).

There are a lot of other drugs that are used such as amphetamines to help blunt the appetite and to give him energy as he gets closer to a show, as his body fat drops down to below 5 percent, he tends to feel very ill and tired, he also uses a lot of immuno stimulating supplements so he doesn’t get sick, of course as he is wired from the amphetamines he has to use xanax, halicon and valium (rotated to reduce reliance on a certain drug supposedly).

On show day the use of insulin before going on stage to get the last bit of fullness and bring out his vascularity, (up close this guy has veins that an octopus would envy. Shooting 10 units I.V before going on but after any pumping up he does




Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: climber on June 30, 2007, 12:14:20 AM
this is why bodybuilding is so fun
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: 3Dkiller on June 30, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
omg so much ?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: benchthis on June 30, 2007, 12:40:18 AM
who would actually do this  ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: AVBG on June 30, 2007, 12:47:19 AM
who would actually do this  ::)

seems kinda extreme
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: onlyme on June 30, 2007, 12:48:39 AM
who would actually do this  ::)

Same dipshit moron who would recommend it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Bluto on June 30, 2007, 12:50:17 AM
i can hardly remember to take creatine once or twice a day i could never do any of that stuff haha
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: rick brophy on June 30, 2007, 12:52:16 AM
they seriously inject GH 6 times a day? how many needles penetrate the body of a professional bodybuilder per day, total...

also would it be safe to say that this is similar to what the top 10 at the olympia use?

fucking nuts.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: climber on June 30, 2007, 12:53:08 AM
they seriously inject GH 6 times a day? how many needles penetrate the body of a professional bodybuilder per day, total...

also would it be safe to say that this is similar to what the top 10 at the olympia use?

fucking nuts.

he's full of shit... like, for example: what kind of moron stacks clen with ephedrine as he's recommending.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: D_1000 on June 30, 2007, 12:53:38 AM
All that will have a major physological effect on the guy as well.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: rick brophy on June 30, 2007, 12:55:50 AM
All that will have a major physological effect on the guy as well.

well have you ever noticed that guys like jay don't exactly act normal... ever. something's got to account for his totally bizarre personality.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: benchthis on June 30, 2007, 12:57:37 AM
this is something a loser bb with shitty genetics would do im thinking of kovacs, palumbo, and maybe someone like king or dennis james
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Dballn247 on June 30, 2007, 01:03:34 AM
Holy crap that is alot of gear.  I thought a gram of test a week, 100mgs of tren a day and 10 d-bol a day was a lot.  I wonder if that much is really needed in order for him/her to grow or is it that his/her receptors are burned out?

Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 01:08:59 AM
Ain't it sad the stuff is necessity to compete in the high ranks, can you still be proud on your archievements when the outcome is made possible because of an excessive usage of gear? in the old days they used stuff too but the emphasize was more on hard training and food than on the juice.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 01:40:21 AM
he's full of shit... like, for example: what kind of moron stacks clen with ephedrine as he's recommending.

not at all,,right now im myself on 300mcg/day and 75-100mg ephedrine/day and i only started prep for o,,my heart doesnt even feel it,,heart beat is at 80 per min while on the products while at rest,,but the termo heat is on like i want it to be and with the added t3 its very effective and quick way down to chizeled 3-4  ;)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 01:43:55 AM
this is something a loser bb with shitty genetics would do im thinking of kovacs, palumbo, and maybe someone like king or dennis james

all as in ALL top pro bodybuilders are very aware of this routine with litle changes here and there,, and its not only the new guys,,ken used to do it back in the 90s to this extreme,,so did thomas prince,,,so did many others that made a mark on the industry
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Andre Nickatina on June 30, 2007, 01:59:07 AM
all as in ALL top pro bodybuilders are very aware of this routine with litle changes here and there,, and its not only the new guys,,ken used to do it back in the 90s to this extreme,,so did thomas prince,,,so did many others that made a mark on the industry
Youre a pussy shut thte fuckj up
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: climber on June 30, 2007, 02:25:07 AM
not at all,,right now im myself on 300mcg/day and 75-100mg ephedrine/day and i only started prep for o,,my heart doesnt even feel it,,heart beat is at 80 per min while on the products while at rest,,but the termo heat is on like i want it to be and with the added t3 its very effective and quick way down to chizeled 3-4  ;)

Hey, gh15 are you Markus Ruhl?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: MAXX on June 30, 2007, 03:23:12 AM
holy shit.

must suck having of think of sticking yourself with needles 24/7

and i think eating every 2-3 hours is hard enough

glad im a natty  :)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: local hero on June 30, 2007, 03:44:10 AM
i can beleive it,,, without the nubain theyd be in complete agony from all the site shots... the growth hormone qoute is def true, from the seminars ive been to all the pros have said they pretty much take as much as they can afford to !
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: j3di3 on June 30, 2007, 03:45:01 AM
do u even have to lift weights using that much?  ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: willl on June 30, 2007, 03:57:38 AM
So as i asked before, GH15:
since they do ject themselves so frequently, its only normal to suppose that they show out lumps and 'oiled' up synthol-like muscle-sites, rotating only delays the scar-tissue from building up, but seems impossible to prevent when this frequent jecting is getting done.

but the question is, how to prevent lumps on D-DAY? while ur shooting this much and this close to the show.

or is that maybe why all striations have dissapeared on very much top-competitiors?

only dex has em nowadays..

respond
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: eddiebubble on June 30, 2007, 04:13:20 AM
do u even have to lift weights using that much?  ::)

Well said and the answer is no. These jokers don't know how to train anyway.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on June 30, 2007, 04:24:28 AM
So, back in the 80's, how did Rich achieve a shredded and better striated look, whilst still looking human and probably not using half of these compounds?




Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: omg on June 30, 2007, 05:04:48 AM
Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)


sorry but can someone explain to me why that would happen?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: ja351 on June 30, 2007, 05:13:10 AM
ROFL, I guess you all do this for the fans? joke of the century...sooner these guy kill themselves the soon we can get on with building bodies like it was ment to be ........ HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!

OH SORRY, WE HAVE THE IFBB TO LOOK AFTER BODYBUILDERS ROFL.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Sculpter on June 30, 2007, 06:41:34 AM
Holy F%$K!!!Talk about turning yourself into a human pin cushion.This is why, when I look at the mags where they have the bb'er stars in them w/pics of when they were younger, the pics displayed do not at all scream of genetic superiority.Guys are walking pharmacies that shrivel up to nothing when they stop all the drugs.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: wes on June 30, 2007, 06:45:10 AM
All those drugs to get a big gut,no speration,no striations,and shitty proportions!!

The guys in the 80`s and 90`s like Gaspari,while still using a lot, looked far better IMO than any fool who would do that to himself.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 06:57:23 AM
    Just get some Fina pellets and an implant gun and use one cartridge every other day . :P
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 07:09:28 AM
Al those drugs to get a big gut,no speration,no striations,and shitty proportions!!

The guys in the 80`s and 90`s like Gaspari,while still using a lot looked far better IMO than any fool who would do that to himself.

All the GH, IGF, and Slin dull and blur the seperations and striations.  Gaspari's drug protocol may have been similar regarding androgens, anabolics, and fat loss compounds.  He looked sharper and healthier because he wasn't using HGH even though it was available at the time, ask Mr. Haney.

If this is what a top guy uses lets ask Lee and Bob to see.  I am sure that they won't give up their protocols but will let us know if this is over the top or accurate.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: wes on June 30, 2007, 07:14:45 AM
I`m sure the dosages,HGH,and insulin are what`s ruining the physiques nowadays.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 07:20:36 AM
I`m sure the dosages,HGH,and insulin are what`s ruining the physiques nowadays.

I am.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gymrat3082 on June 30, 2007, 07:24:42 AM
 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: dr.chimps on June 30, 2007, 07:35:24 AM
Sweet Jesus. I don't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday. I can't imagine trying to keep all that shit straight. I'd be walking around mumbling to myself about what already took/what I needed to take and whether I took it already or should make sure. It'd be like that wolf in a Bugs Bunny cartoon who can't remember a rabbit from a rhinocerous. 
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Dballn247 on June 30, 2007, 07:46:50 AM
Has GH15 ever posted a pic or said which pro he was.  I have heard of Pro's taking crazy amounts of Gear and I'd like to see what this stack should yield.

If the result = Tamali, then not worth it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: JasonH on June 30, 2007, 08:07:22 AM
What a load of fcuking bollocks - there's no way even the pros take that amount of gear pre-contest - along with all the food they have to take in it wouldn't be financially viable. Any prize money from a show would be swallowed up in costs from the drug regimen.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:10:08 AM
holy shit that's a lot of drugs, how can these guys only be 240-260 pounds onstage with that much shit? you'd think these guys would be 350-375 pound ripped on that amount of drugs.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:11:04 AM
BTW i fully believe GH15's post, i totally believe there are guys who take that much, pretty crazy.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on June 30, 2007, 08:12:00 AM
I have hard the cycle of a pro who is almost 300 (6'2 ) pounds onstage from a very good source and i twas NO WHERE NEAR those amounts

like not even half of that
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:14:52 AM
I have hard the cycle of a pro who is almost 300 (6'2 ) pounds onstage from a very good source and i twas NO WHERE NEAR those amounts

like not even half of that
who Gunther? what i don't understand is why take 1750mg. of test prop a week AND 1750mg. of Enanthate a week, i understand that prop is more short acting and test E is more long acting but since youre injecting every day why would you need both, and man oh man is trhat a lot of insulin and insulin mimmicking products, talk about crazy.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: JasonH on June 30, 2007, 08:17:41 AM
The GH use alone would run into thousands of $ a month. It's not possible I tells ya.

Look at how it's made up - you wouldn't run deca and enanthate that close out to a contest anyway - they'll cause too much water-retention. Half the stuff makes no sense.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on June 30, 2007, 08:18:36 AM
it's not Gunter it is a new pro ( not from the USA ), don'T know hoe he will look against the other pros but he is one huge guy

I also don't understand why people take 3 kind of test.
test is test, it doesn't matter if it is enanthate or cypionate or prop or whatever  ???
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:19:02 AM
The GH use alone would run into thousands of $ a month. It's not possible I tells ya.

Look at how it's made up - you wouldn't run deca and enanthate that close out to a contest anyway - they'll cause too much water-retention. Half the stuff makes no sense.
you have to remember these guys have ways of getting shit cheap, most of them sell the shit anyway so it's just a matter of tapping into their own supply, again i just don't understand the insulin products.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 30, 2007, 08:19:48 AM
"180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts"

Ya ok and their hearts don't explode, nevermind all the other shit they are on.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:21:08 AM
"180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts"

Ya ok and their hearts don't explode, nevermind all the other shit they are on.
if they take that much ephedrine why do most of them move around like zombies during their workouts?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 30, 2007, 08:21:27 AM
it's not Gunter it is a new pro ( not from the USA ), don'T know hoe he will look against the other pros but he is one huge ####

I also don't understand why people take 3 kind of test.
test is test, it doesn't matter if it is enanthate or cypionate or prop or whatever  ???
Do you know what sustanon is? It's a blend that works better then taking any single one by itself.  ;)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:23:08 AM
Do you know what sustanon is? It's a blend that works better then taking any single one by itself.  ;)
that's what i don't understand, why take 250mg. of Sustanon per day AND 250mg. of Enanthate a day? if you're taking it every day it seems like one form of test would be sufficient.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 30, 2007, 08:23:46 AM
if they take that much ephedrine why do most of them move around like zombies during their workouts?

That to but I remember when I use to take 50 mg before working out and not on the juice. I can't see someone surviving too long with all those other drugs and taking 180 mg of ephedrine.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 30, 2007, 08:25:41 AM
that's what i don't understand, why take 250mg. of Sustanon per day AND 250mg. of Enanthate a day? if you're taking it every day it seems like one form of test would be sufficient.
Ya but remember these guys are taking this shit for so long and becoming imune to it. My guess is he is making his own version of sustanon, by upping the individual doses of drugs in it, since he probably doesnt respond to it like he used to.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:26:26 AM
That to but I remember when I use to take 50 mg before working out and not on the juice. I can't see someone surviving too long with all those other drugs and taking 180 mg of ephedrine.
i hear ya, that cycle that he posted is just plain scary, like i said i have no doubt at all that some guys take that much, you are nothing but a full fledged drug addict and slave to your addiction on that many drugs plain and simple.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:27:36 AM
Unless bb is paying the bills then some, I am top 3 in the world, and I can live a somewhat normal healthy life after bb then all that shit can't be worth it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:28:45 AM
How do average bb afford all that stuff unless they are selling it?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 30, 2007, 08:29:47 AM
How do average bb afford all that stuff unless they are selling it?
Ask Kai what he does.....
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:30:07 AM
How do average bb afford all that stuff unless they are selling it?
most of them do sell it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:32:45 AM
most of them do sell it.

Thats a damn shame. Now I know why Ruhl stays in Germany  ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on June 30, 2007, 08:34:17 AM
Thats a damn shame. Now I know why Ruhl stays in Germany  ;D

why is it a shame

it's easy money
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:34:56 AM
it's hard to feel sorry for these guys wen they run into problems when they knowingly put that much shit into their bodies.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 08:36:50 AM
it's hard to feel sorry for these guys wen they run into problems when they knowingly put that much shit into their bodies.

Exactly, would you feel proud about your physically archievements if you took that much?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:37:43 AM
why is it a shame

it's easy money

I mean because you have to fuck up you health in the long run and in the end only do "ok" in the pros. Plus, I would hate to have to do anything illegal for something so small.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:39:53 AM
Exactly, would you feel proud about your physically archievements if you took that much?

Look at Steve Michalik. That dude used everything available at the time and was a good bb but never great only to end up with shitty health and temporarily paralyzed after run over by a car. :-\
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:43:31 AM
Look at Steve Michalik. That dude used everything available at the time and was a good bb but never great only to end up with shitty health and temporarily paralyzed after run over by a car. :-\
all the shit he used and he only had what 19 inch arms? i don't get it, how can you take that much shit and only be 240-270 pounds? these guys should be fuccking 400 pound giants on that much shit.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Dipadidu on June 30, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
PRE-CONTEST:

10-7 WEEKS OUT

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

6-2 WEEKS OUT:

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg’s at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

WEEKS 2 AND FIRST HALF OF WEEK 1:

Same as above except the Nubain is dropped, as it is unnecessary, as well as the IGF-1 is dropped.

Also one extra ampoule of Parabolan and Masteron per day.

LAST THREE DAYS:

Uses neoton 500, creatine phosphate (its an injectable I believe) in his carb deplete/load, he was unspecific on dosages

Two days out he uses Lasix (still a favorite) 80 mg four times a day, for two days.

ALL DRUGS!!!  ::)

& ALL LIES  ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2007, 08:48:01 AM
And all that shit and he probably couldn't even get a callout with The Oak. Screw competing.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 08:49:42 AM
(http://www.vvborn.nl/Images/gabber.jpg)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 08:51:44 AM
And all that shit and he probably couldn't even get a callout with The Oak. Screw competing.
the dude looked good but come on, he probably used 25-30 dbol's a day, at least 2500mg. of test a week, he should be packing at least 50-60 pounds more muscle on his body, and people say these guys have great genetics. ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 08:53:26 AM
the dude looked good but come on, he probably used 25-30 dbol's a day, at least 2500mg. of test a week, he should be packing at least 50-60 pounds more muscle on his body, and people say these guys have great genetics. ::)

Haha same goes for munzer, no wonder he looked decent and shredded.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on June 30, 2007, 09:00:29 AM
Haha same goes for munzer, no wonder he looked decent and shredded.

Muntzer wasnt natural?  :o
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: titusisback on June 30, 2007, 09:07:38 AM
I wonder if that much is really needed in order for him/her to grow or is it that his/her receptors are burned out?

Leave Bethany out of this
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on June 30, 2007, 09:18:12 AM
I know Cutler's cycle
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 09:19:14 AM
I know Cutler's cycle
let's see it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 09:20:29 AM
(http://www.metalcorefanzine.com/chris_jay%20cutler.jpg)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on June 30, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
let's see it.
I probably shouldn't say but I guess I can make an exception this time. Please do not try to imitate this; it is way to hardcore for the average bodybuilder. If you must copy it, atleast use regular nitro tech/cell tech instead of the hardcore version. Here it goes:
Gakic
Pump Tech
Nitro Tech Hardcore
Cell Tech Hardcore
Anator P70
Creakic (on and off every 4 weeks)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (starting 12 weeks out)
Mass Tech (on and off every 6 weeks)
Kerry's homemade fat free muffins (5 weeks on, 2 weeks off)

Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 09:23:46 AM
I probably shouldn't say but I guess I can make an exception this time. Here it goes:
Gakic
Pump Tech
Nitro Tech Hardcore
Cell Tech Hardcore
Anator P70
Creakic (on and off every 4 weeks)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (starting 12 weeks out)
Mass Tech (on and off every 6 weeks)


 :o :o can't be healthy.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on June 30, 2007, 09:26:04 AM
:o :o can't be healthy.
He also site injects the anator p70
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: g101 on June 30, 2007, 09:27:40 AM
nice tip of the week  8)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: UpTheDosage on June 30, 2007, 09:32:38 AM
all the shit he used and he only had what 19 inch arms? i don't get it, how can you take that much shit and only be 240-270 pounds? these guys should be fuccking 400 pound giants on that much shit.

You just answered your own question. There is NO NEED to take that much when 1/3 of that amount will get you the SAME results. Anyone that feels like they need that much shit needs to just fucking quit bodybuilding.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 09:37:18 AM
ok what the hell would that cost somebody? goin thru 100iu kits in a few days . Whew... I bet thats worth somewhere around $10,000 if HG.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: willl on June 30, 2007, 09:39:08 AM
btw why use the nubain?......i dont get it

where does this terrible pain come from?

the 2day oil deposit-aches? the headaches? the screwed-up joint-aches perhaps?

dont tell me its to ease the workout pains....
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on June 30, 2007, 09:39:11 AM
If I was on all that I would be paranoid all the time that I could just have a heart attack or stroke any second.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: UpTheDosage on June 30, 2007, 09:44:45 AM
btw why use the nubain?......i dont get it

where does this terrible pain come from?

the 2day oil deposit-aches? the headaches? the screwed-up joint-aches perhaps?

dont tell me its to ease the workout pains....

Yeah no shit! Why the hell does everyone use nubain. What is so fucking painful???
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 09:57:55 AM
Wasn't nubain used to make a training less painfull? i recall Grundy told something like that.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: benchthis on June 30, 2007, 10:33:45 AM
I have hard the cycle of a pro who is almost 300 (6'2 ) pounds onstage from a very good source and i twas NO WHERE NEAR those amounts

like not even half of that
gunter
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 10:38:16 AM
seems like a titus cycle.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Master Blaster on June 30, 2007, 10:46:10 AM
GH x 6 per/day?

 ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 30, 2007, 11:02:32 AM
Yeah no shit! Why the hell does everyone use nubain. What is so fucking painful???
Rec drugs make the monotonous routine and strict dieting more tolerable... and "fun".
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Moen on June 30, 2007, 11:04:52 AM
btw why use the nubain?......i dont get it

where does this terrible pain come from?

the 2day oil deposit-aches? the headaches? the screwed-up joint-aches perhaps?

dont tell me its to ease the workout pains....

I think it's safe to say to cover the injection pain after all those injects LOL
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tleilaxutank on June 30, 2007, 11:05:58 AM
btw why use the nubain?......i dont get it

where does this terrible pain come from?

the 2day oil deposit-aches? the headaches? the screwed-up joint-aches perhaps?

dont tell me its to ease the workout pains....


Cuz it gets you...

High...High
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on June 30, 2007, 11:10:59 AM
all as in ALL top pro bodybuilders are very aware of this routine with litle changes here and there,, and its not only the new guys,,ken used to do it back in the 90s to this extreme,,so did thomas prince,,,so did many others that made a mark on the industry

Flex and Prince.

That in a nutshell probably sums up the net results of such a cycle, shuld one follow through.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: onlyme on June 30, 2007, 11:11:50 AM
I've said it many times on here.  When I competed I only took one thing. It was Test cyp 200 mg.  I took a cc a day for 6 months.  I literally quit the day after the Worlds and never took or competed professionally again.  Almost ten years later I got as strong as I was when I was on.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: D_1000 on June 30, 2007, 11:20:34 AM
not really, considering all the money bber's make.

They don't make any "real" money (legally) from bodybuilding except for the top 1-3 in the world.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 11:22:22 AM
gh15,
 You didnt mention ancilleries at all. What is the top pro using along the lines of AI,AE, and pct? And if a pro wins $10,000 at a show does that cover the prep cycle?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 30, 2007, 11:51:47 AM
Ok i gotta jump in here..........

I saw somebody on my home board (promuscle) post a question about this bs... so i have to reply.  Cmon do you REALLY think somebody would take this much stuff?  This is totally fabricated and made up.  There might be a FEW pro's that even approach this.  I dont even take 1/8 of this shit and there are pro's with 100x better genetics than me that grow off much less....

stop swallowing this guys bs
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:05:38 PM
gh15,
 You didnt mention ancilleries at all. What is the top pro using along the lines of AI,AE, and pct? And if a pro wins $10,000 at a show does that cover the prep cycle?

ancilarries ai ae etc  are considered 'legal' for us,,we dont even count them as anything because everyone uses them and they are purchased legaly by anyone from women to men to trans,,they go like candies and is a must in prep wether you are pro,,local amatuer or a lifter that want to look ripped and dry on the beach

you dont need pct when you dont get off so there is no pct,,you bridge and lower the number of products and doses,,,you play with it since you know your body very well,,any top pro knows his body very well and knows his hormones

favorite ai is letro arimidex and aromasin,,i use letro at 2-4 mg a day when prep
favortie ae is still nolvadex,,myself i use it at 30-40mg a day when prep





Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:11:18 PM
Ok i gotta jump in here..........

I saw somebody on my home board (promuscle) post a question about this bs... so i have to reply.  Cmon do you REALLY think somebody would take this much stuff?  This is totally fabricated and made up.  There might be a FEW pro's that even approach this.  I dont even take 1/8 of this shit and there are pro's with 100x better genetics than me that grow off much less....

stop swallowing this guys bs

stop talking out of yoru ass because if you are a professional bodybuilder and anyone to write home about which i doubt it but if you are.. you know exactly that inorder to walk around 250+lbat 4% at 5'9 this is the protocol

do you see many people around you walking around at constant 6% bodyfat weighing 260lb? all at the very tall height of 5'8 and a half,,??

stop bulshiting those kids,,you can get a nice ripped physiqe on less but it will be 200-220lb 6%,,you know it and i know it,,so stop this crap
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on June 30, 2007, 12:13:58 PM
Ok i gotta jump in here..........

I saw somebody on my home board (promuscle) post a question about this bs... so i have to reply.  Cmon do you REALLY think somebody would take this much stuff?  This is totally fabricated and made up.  There might be a FEW pro's that even approach this.  I dont even take 1/8 of this shit and there are pro's with 100x better genetics than me that grow off much less....

stop swallowing this guys bs

Does sound like a boatload of stuff. Cant imagine keeping track and having time for this between training, eatinig and other contest prep, never mind the rest of day-to-day life...

TP4U, share what you deem to be the cycles of the pros on average from your perspective ???
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on June 30, 2007, 12:14:10 PM
GH15, please explain the need to take different kind of test at the same time

if the dude take sustanon that already contains prop enanthate and cypionate esters, why would he take sustanon AND test enanthate ?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on June 30, 2007, 12:15:37 PM
Wasnt Flex around 5'9", 220lbs on stage?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 12:15:54 PM
I'm starting to think gh15 is none other than our very own Adam Ables.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pobrecito on June 30, 2007, 12:21:33 PM
I'm starting to think gh15 is none other than our very own Adam Ables.

If GH15 truly was a pro, he would have the blue stars. He could still remain anonymous.

Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on June 30, 2007, 12:21:50 PM
I'm starting to think gh15 is none other than our very own Adam Ables.

It's not Abeles type of bullshitting around
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:23:38 PM
1.who is adam ables?
2. why would i come here and make myself look bad if this is what i take and ALL other top pros take? we dont even sell some of those products since we only deal with aas and peptides
3.ken was a lot bigger than 220 at 6% he held 6% at 250lb
4. because that is what the "dude" had in hand,,guess he didnt have enough sustas on hand :D,,nah its inorder to keep blood concentration stable and have a base and then play on it with the sustas which have diff esters,,the longer esters come at higher doses,,remember i didnt write this routine i just confirmed it
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 30, 2007, 12:23:54 PM
stop talking out of yoru ass because if you are a professional bodybuilder and anyone to write home about which i doubt it but if you are.. you know exactly that inorder to walk around 250+lbat 4% at 5'9 this is the protocol

do you see many people around you walking around at constant 6% bodyfat weighing 260lb? all at the very tall height of 5'8 and a half,,??

stop bulshiting those kids,,you can get a nice ripped physiqe on less but it will be 200-220lb 6%,,you know it and i know it,,so stop this crap

i am far from pro, but that was my point.
  I sit at a nice 230 range at around 10% and plan to hit the stage this year at 215-220 range at 5'8.  Now if i can do that with MY genetics, surely most of the pro's, whose genetics smoke mine, can do it with less gear than i use.  I dont even use an eighth of what you listed.  I did it slowly, started at 150 and worked my way up 30lbs naturally, 25lbs my first cycle, and small incriments over the next 4yrs (time on = time off).  Why is this so impossible?

For god sakes, i have heard from two poeple whose word i consider GOLDEN that Phil Heath barely used a gram of gear to win the USA.  As i said, maybe there is a few that use that, but the majority do not.  Maybe you are the 3 in 100 pro's that needed that much gear to be huge, so you dont believe its possible any other way.  By the way, i work for one of bodybuildings greats, and i saw his journals, hes considered one of the best conditioned pro's to ever live, and he didnt use half that!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 12:23:54 PM
Sure it is. Long drawn out sessions of "brilliant" information.

Only to finally shoot himself in the foot by posting something borderline -- that people who actually know a bit can see through.

Up until this last post, I was suckered into it. This post, however, is so full of holes even someone like me with no drug knowledge/experience can taste the swiss cheese.

But see, he doesn't really know what he's talking about, so couldn't tell that this last post had so many holes in it.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: chaos on June 30, 2007, 12:25:11 PM
You just answered your own question. There is NO NEED to take that much when 1/3 of that amount will get you the SAME results. Anyone that feels like they need that much shit needs to just fucking quit bodybuilding.
so you're recommending to lower the dosage, UpTheDosage :-\
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 12:30:59 PM
Why don't you share with us some tips other than on gear gh?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 12:32:51 PM
Why don't you share with us some tips other than on gear gh?
like how to deadlift 225x112?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:34:50 PM

i am far from pro, but that was my point.
  I sit at a nice 230 range at around 10% and plan to hit the stage this year at 215-220 range at 5'8.  Now if i can do that with MY genetics, surely most of the pro's, whose genetics smoke mine, can do it with less gear than i use.  I dont even use an eighth of what you listed.  I did it slowly, started at 150 and worked my way up 30lbs naturally, 25lbs my first cycle, and small incriments over the next 4yrs (time on = time off).  Why is this so impossible?

For god sakes, i have heard from two poeple whose word i consider GOLDEN that Phil Heath barely used a gram of gear to win the USA.  As i said, maybe there is a few that use that, but the majority do not.  Maybe you are the 3 in 100 pro's that needed that much gear to be huge, so you dont believe its possible any other way.  By the way, i work for one of bodybuildings greats, and i saw his journals, hes considered one of the best conditioned pro's to ever live, and he didnt use half that!

my friend,,you are talking here about heath that didnt even pee in the bodybuilding world as of now,,he is only at the beggining,,he is 215lb  :D,,yes he looks amazing yes i like him but that aint no big my friend,,

when i talk about top pros im talkin about the big fellas,,,ron jason mustaf and gustav ;D the germans :) ,,thats what im talkin about here my friend,,,

i aint talkin about no 225lb at 10% that in reality is most likley 14%,,i aint talkin about heath that won nationals because of quality and NOT because of size of anything,,

im talkin here about big guys,,this all routine is made to GROWWWWW EVERYTHING,,take a look at dex in nationals usa when he competed,,im too tired to look for links,,you can find it somewhere probably,,dex is where big come into play ,,,225-230 5'6 chizeled,,then it goes to the big boys,,i aint talkin about no light weights here
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 12:35:25 PM
I think he's already giving away tips how to do that.
Training and nutrition tips would be interesting though.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:41:40 PM
gareth,,there is no holes in anything i write because i do it and compete regularly at the top pro level,,check wqith ron ips and you will see im no adam abeles who ever this is

this info didnt arrive here for you to doubt it,,it is here to show you why you are not us although you put 100 of hours in gym and eat chiken and brown rice 10 times a day,,half of you got genetics as good as us but just didnt take it extreme and this is where it stands when it comes to us: EXTREME

now,,yes you need the muscle shape ands genetic reponse but every country boy in mid west alabama usa got this muscle shape and genetic reponse,,,reason this country boy that weigh 268lb at 22% is not me is because he didnt go that route!

trust me when it comes to trraining you probably train a lot harder and longer than us pros,,its not a question of the training here and that is what pisses every other pro off and that is why i remain annonymous,,

this is only way you will hear it no other way
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 12:42:17 PM
you have to remember these guys have ways of getting shit cheap, most of them sell the shit anyway so it's just a matter of tapping into their own supply, again i just don't understand the insulin products.

  me either.....Hell Matt DuVall got huge on the nitro tech/cell tech stack.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 12:43:07 PM
"180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts"

Ya ok and their hearts don't explode, nevermind all the other shit they are on.


180 mg ephedrine is nothing. I have used WAAAY more than that at one time before.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 12:43:12 PM
gareth,,there is no holes in anything i write because i do it and compete regularly at the top pro level,,check wqith ron ips and you will see im no adam abeles who ever this is

this info didnt arrive here for you to doubt it,,it is here to show you why you are not us although you put 100 of hours in gym and eat chiken and brown rice 10 times a day,,half of you got genetics as good as us but just didnt take it extreme and this is where it stands when it comes to us: EXTREME

now,,yes you need the muscle shape ands genetic reponse but every country boy in mid west alabama usa got this muscle shape and genetic reponse,,,reason this country boy that weigh 268lb at 22% is not me is because he didnt go that route!

trust me when it comes to trraining you probably train a lot harder and longer than us pros,,its not a question of the training here and that is what pisses every other pro off and that is why i remain annonymous,,

this is only way you will hear it no other way
that right there is the brutal truth.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 12:45:36 PM
Gh are you saying that with drugs regimes most pros run training hard is not a real neccety anymore?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 12:45:58 PM
gareth,,there is no holes in anything i write because i do it and compete regularly at the top pro level,,check wqith ron ips and you will see im no adam abeles who ever this is

this info didnt arrive here for you to doubt it,,it is here to show you why you are not us although you put 100 of hours in gym and eat chiken and brown rice 10 times a day,,half of you got genetics as good as us but just didnt take it extreme and this is where it stands when it comes to us: EXTREME

now,,yes you need the muscle shape ands genetic reponse but every country boy in mid west alabama usa got this muscle shape and genetic reponse,,,reason this country boy that weigh 268lb at 22% is not me is because he didnt go that route!

trust me when it comes to trraining you probably train a lot harder and longer than us pros,,its not a question of the training here and that is what pisses every other pro off and that is why i remain annonymous,,

this is only way you will hear it no other way
One thing that is blatantly obvious is that GH and slin don't mix.

You've got this guy doing GH 6x/day plus slin in morn and w/ each meal (probably 8-10 meals/day). So the slin will completely negate all effects of the GH.

...and you're trying to sell me on this? not happening today...sorry.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Overload on June 30, 2007, 12:47:53 PM
I believe it. i know amatuer guys who use 3000mg of test per week. someone who was close to kamali said he admitted to spending over 30k on drugs for contest prep for the olympia a few years ago.

8)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 12:49:40 PM
I believe it. i know amatuer guys who use 3000mg of test per week. someone who was close to kamali said he admitted to spending over 30k on drugs for contest prep for the olympia a few years ago.

8)

   talk about burning your money :-\
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: rick brophy on June 30, 2007, 12:51:02 PM
i really appreciate all of gh15's posts, but the question remains, which pro has the horrible grammar and sentence structure that he has, yet knows how to use a computer pretty well apparently?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: McFarland on June 30, 2007, 12:52:52 PM
also Garret you see I can still appreciate your hero mustav so please let up on me friend before the other getbiggers question my specialties here,, ;) ,,you know nothing about hormones yeah ok but synthol you build how-to pages for on internet so I'm not sure what is going on but
that either here or there" as they say on mayhem,,  ;D

,,but like I say I know you like Mustafe and he's a big boy,,I just said he's not the easeist thing on the eyes but you have your opinion I have mine so please don't stalk me here and ruin otherwise very informative thread that MANY bodybuilders find to be PURE GOLD,,besides if you doubt me then just tell yourself I don't even have my blue stars yet so what does old gh15 know,,that should help ;) ,,Ron maybe you could get Garret his blues he has webpages to show us I think,, ha ha

Garraeth take it easy on gh15 man he's just trying to enlighten!    
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 12:53:46 PM
i didnt write this post,,this is not my routine but i confirmed it! i mentioned it before couple of times

gh and insulin work very well together,,this is one thing people dont understand,,,if you take your physiqe down to 6% no matter what weight you are,,,lets say 6% 180lb,,then when you are true 6% you start growth slin and t3,,you will become  a bodybuilder,,,look wise you will blow up and remain at single digit bodyfat

gh = very good for fat burning
gh + slin  + t3 ,,and for this 180lb not even at high doses,, = beast and pretty fast,,

the t3 kills any fat what so ever,,it eats it out of the ball park,,the insulin will never get you fat when on t3,,then you got the growth for leaning you while growing,,all working together,,

dont illusion yourself,,,this is THE ONLY WAY TO GET 250+LB AT 6%  at 5'9
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 12:55:32 PM
i didnt write this post,,this is not my routine but i confirmed it! i mentioned it before couple of times

gh and insulin work very well together,,this is one thing people dont understand,,,if you take your physiqe down to 6% no matter what weight you are,,,lets say 6% 180lb,,then when you are true 6% you start growth slin and t3,,you will become  a bodybuilder,,,look wise you will blow up and remain at single digit bodyfat

gh = very good for fat burning
gh + slin  + t3 ,,and for this 180lb not even at high doses,, = beast and pretty fast,,

the t3 kills any fat what so ever,,it eats it out of the ball park,,the insulin will never get you fat when on t3,,then you got the growth for leaning you while growing,,all working together,,

dont illusion yourself,,,this is THE ONLY WAY TO GET 250+LB AT 6%  at 5'9

   what about cell tech? :-\
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:00:12 PM
i didnt write this post,,this is not my routine but i confirmed it! i mentioned it before couple of times

gh and insulin work very well together,,this is one thing people dont understand,,,if you take your physiqe down to 6% no matter what weight you are,,,lets say 6% 180lb,,then when you are true 6% you start growth slin and t3,,you will become  a bodybuilder,,,look wise you will blow up and remain at single digit bodyfat

gh = very good for fat burning
gh + slin  + t3 ,,and for this 180lb not even at high doses,, = beast and pretty fast,,

the t3 kills any fat what so ever,,it eats it out of the ball park,,the insulin will never get you fat when on t3,,then you got the growth for leaning you while growing,,all working together,,

dont illusion yourself,,,this is THE ONLY WAY TO GET 250+LB AT 6%  at 5'9
Yeah, see, now you're writing like Adam. Skirting the issue and diverting attension.

If you knew what I was talking about, you'd address the real issue of GH vs/ slin. But you don't. So you can't.

Any HRT doctors on the board who can tell me what happens when you take GH and slin at the same time?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 01:03:25 PM
One thing that is blatantly obvious is that GH and slin don't mix.

You've got this guy doing GH 6x/day plus slin in morn and w/ each meal (probably 8-10 meals/day). So the slin will completely negate all effects of the GH.

...and you're trying to sell me on this? not happening today...sorry.

Garreth, for someone that play himself as being on the "inside", especially hanging around Milos, you don't know much about the drug side of this.  Saying that Slin and GH don't mix is like saying neither do bread and butter. RETARDED!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 01:04:28 PM
Yeah, see, now you're writing like Adam. Skirting the issue and diverting attension.

If you knew what I was talking about, you'd address the real issue of GH vs/ slin. But you don't. So you can't.

Any HRT doctors on the board who can tell me what happens when you take GH and slin at the same time?

Yeah you get fucking huge!!!  First time I did it put on 11 lbs. in 3 days!!!  You are a fool dude.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on June 30, 2007, 01:04:40 PM

Any HRT doctors on the board who can tell me what happens when you take GH and slin at the same time?


you gain 50 lbs
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 01:05:17 PM
Yeah, see, now you're writing like Adam. Skirting the issue and diverting attension.

If you knew what I was talking about, you'd address the real issue of GH vs/ slin. But you don't. So you can't.

Any HRT doctors on the board who can tell me what happens when you take GH and slin at the same time?
I know where your trying to go with this Garreth, but i think you are just too caught up on somebody else's theories. I think the Chad route is mighty familiar with mixing the two. Isnt that what they pay him for? He builds freaks. Even Dave P vouches for the 2 together
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:05:39 PM
Garreth, for someone that play himself as being on the "inside", especially hanging around Milos, you don't know much about the drug side of this.  Saying that Slin and GH don't mix is like saying neither do bread and butter. RETARDED!
Yea, read my last post. You also don't know what I'm talking about.

And Milos doesn't teach me about drugs moron. And I don't ask.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:07:15 PM
I know where your trying to go with this Garreth, but i think you are just too caught up on somebody else's theories. I think the Chad route is mighty familiar with mixing the two. Isnt that what they pay him for?
I dunno about Chad. But I did a website for an HRT doctor and asked him about mixing the two specifically. He said there is a specific WAY you have to mix them. gh15 obviously doesn't know HOW to mix them -- based on the schedule he posted.

You asswipes who are saying I don't know you can't gain from GH+slin don't know shit about how to use it and so won't gain as much as you should or could be.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: McFarland on June 30, 2007, 01:07:28 PM
Garraeth do you really think you could do (hypothetically speaking) 50 units of growth a day and 100 units of insulin and not get anything from it?  You really think they'd cancel each other out?  NO MATTER WHAT THE "TIMING?"  
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 01:07:45 PM
you def right along the lines of danger but.. These elite guys gave up health at the national level. Like Gh said, Extreme... Whatever it takes. Freakin plasma expanders for crying out loud.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:09:48 PM
Garraeth do you really think you could do (hypothetically speaking) 50 units of growth a day and 100 units of insulin and not get anything from it?  You really think they'd cancel each other out?  NO MATTER WHAT THE "TIMING?"  
The HRT doc said: Shoot GH 1st thing in morning. Then don't eat for at least an hour so you don't spike your slin...if you do, the GH will be wasted.


So, with gh15's schedule of slin w/ each meal (presumably 6-10 meals/day) plus GH 6x/day, it's impossible to shuffle things to NOT negate the GH at some point (more likely, multiple points).
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 01:10:16 PM
come on, deep down everyone knows what GH15 says is true, i believe everything about that cycle, those guys are sauced to the gills.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: HalloweenMan on June 30, 2007, 01:10:58 PM
Look at Steve Michalik. That dude used everything available at the time and was a good bb but never great only to end up with shitty health and temporarily paralyzed after run over by a car. :-\

wtf does getting run over by a car have to do with aas use?  please explain the story
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 01:11:24 PM
Yea, read my last post. You also don't know what I'm talking about.

And Milos doesn't teach me about drugs moron. And I don't ask.

Then enlighten us what you are talking about, stop speaking in code.  Because otherwise we are to assume you don't know shit.

GH + Slin = Immediate weight gain. PERIOD.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:11:57 PM
Then enlighten us what you are talking about, stop speaking in code.  Because otherwise we are to assume you don't know shit.

GH + Slin = Immediate weight gain. PERIOD.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=157047.msg2203146#msg2203146
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on June 30, 2007, 01:12:48 PM
The HRT doc said: Shoot GH 1st thing in morning. Then don't eat for at least an hour so you don't spike your slin...if you do, the GH will be wasted.


So, with gh15's schedule of slin w/ each meal (presumably 6-10 meals/day) plus GH 6x/day, it's impossible to shuffle things to NOT negate the GH at some point (more likely, multiple points).

Yeah and HRT Doctors are specialists in BBing.  Stop posting nonsense in this thread, get a clue.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:13:44 PM
Yeah and HRT Doctors are specialists in BBing.  Stop posting nonsense in this thread, get a clue.
haha, what's the difference? If it negates the GH, it negates the GH.

duh.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 01:14:00 PM
Then enlighten us what you are talking about, stop speaking in code.  Because otherwise we are to assume you don't know shit.

GH + Slin = Immediate weight gain. PERIOD.
exactly, how could you not put on a tremendous amount of weight on that combo, i believe this si the reason why the phyiques have changed so much from the 70's,80's and early 90's and now.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Overload on June 30, 2007, 01:15:27 PM
haha, what's the difference? If it negates the GH, it negates the GH.

duh.

It doesn't.


8)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:16:26 PM
exactly, how could you not put on a tremendous amount of weight on that combo, i believe this si the reason why the phyiques have changed so much from the 70's,80's and early 90's and now.
Dood, read my posts. I know you can gain a shitload of muscle on GH/slin. I'm saying gh15 fabricated cycle didn't take into consideration the fact that you have to wait at least an hour after shooting GH before you eat or shoot slin. Because gh15 didn't know that simple, GH101 fact.

Yeah, get some GH and slin and I'd guess you'd add 30lbs in a month SF.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 01:17:57 PM
Dood, read my posts. I know you can gain a shitload of muscle on GH/slin. I'm saying gh15 fabricated cycle didn't take into consideration the fact that you have to wait at least an hour after shooting GH before you eat or shoot slin. Because gh15 didn't know that simple, GH101 fact.

Yeah, get some GH and slin and I'd guess you'd add 30lbs in a month SF.
i'm pretty sure it's an EXISTING cycle that GH15 is just confirming, i think it's the amounts more than anything that he's trying to point out.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:20:10 PM
i'm pretty sure it's an EXISTING cycle that GH15 is just confirming, i think it's the amounts more than anything that he's trying to point out.
IF that's the case, then he needs to make that clear. imo, he was giving it his stamp of approval.

And, when I confronted him on it, he didn't know about the waiting period. so...

And, if it's from a pro, don't you think a pro would know this? I mean I only did the website for this HRT doc and he told me that on like our third conversation. Not like it's some ohh-lala secret or anything.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: chaos on June 30, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
ALL DRUGS!! ::) ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: HalloweenMan on June 30, 2007, 01:21:04 PM
i believe it 100%.  i met chris cook a couple years ago and he said pros take waaaaaaaaaay more than you think.  also, i remember someone posted on here once about paul dillet talking about spending 15k on olympia prep, plus food.  thats insane.  
that drug stack listed is absurd but completely believable.  
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 01:22:11 PM
IF that's the case, then he needs to make that clear. imo, he was giving it his stamp of approval.

And, when I confronted him on it, he didn't know about the waiting period. so...

And, if it's from a pro, don't you think a pro would know this? I mean I only did the website for this HRT doc and he told me that on like our third conversation. Not like it's some ohh-lala secret or anything.
well i look at it like this, these guys are hardly scientists when it comes to putting this shit in their bodies, in their minds the important thing is that it gets in their bodies and then everything will work itself out somehow.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:23:41 PM
well i look at it like this, these guys are hardly scientists when it comes to putting this shit in their bodies, in their minds the important thing is that it gets in their bodies and then everything will work itself out somehow.
heh, ok...so you're saying the pro who made up this cycle is a moron? ok, I'll buy that.  ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on June 30, 2007, 01:25:44 PM
heh, ok...so you're saying the pro who made up this cycle is a moron? ok, I'll buy that.  ;D
they're all morons to a certain extent, i don't think any of them have any physiology knowledge or medical knowledge to understand when to inject this, when to take that, they just put it in their body and hope it works, a guy like Palumbo may be an exception.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: D_1000 on June 30, 2007, 01:26:04 PM
IF that's the case, then he needs to make that clear. imo, he was giving it his stamp of approval.

He has made if clear many times in this thread. Take a step back and cool down.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 01:27:44 PM
He has made if clear many times in this thread. Take a step back and cool down.
eh I'm done  :)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on June 30, 2007, 02:17:20 PM
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this is what the best genetics on planet earth looks like with no growth/insulin/t3 combo use,,only aas and duretics/fatburners

25 years old is where natural progress slows down to  new level of slowness if not on aas,,and to the current size (lean muscle) dex hold.. only a combo of gh/slin/t3 inaddition to the aas will sufice

here you can see just how much of a diff the use of hormones can make,,and you are talking here about best genetics on the planet right there with ron and kevin,,so you gotta know whach ya doing baby no matter how good your gene pool is
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
Dexter looks tiny in that show.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 30, 2007, 02:24:03 PM
Its really not that much different than the "pro cycles" that bill puts in his books.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Master Blaster on June 30, 2007, 02:31:24 PM
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this is what the best genetics on planet earth looks like with no growth/insulin/t3 combo use,,only aas and duretics/fatburners


Thats the best WITHOUT "growth/insulin/t3 combo"?  ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 30, 2007, 02:42:09 PM
If you knew what I was talking about, you'd address the real issue of GH vs/ slin. But you don't. So you can't.

Any HRT doctors on the board who can tell me what happens when you take GH and slin at the same time?
I know where you are going with this but it's complete bullshit. I'm sure you got it from Milos but he doesn't understand how these hormones work nor their active lives! Rest assured, what you heard is BS!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
I know where you are going with this but it's complete bullshit. I'm sure you got it from Milos but he doesn't understand how these hormones work nor their active lives! Rest assured, what you heard is BS!
Yeah, you didn't read my posts. I said:

1. Milos doesn't tell me about drugs and I don't ask.

2. I spoke w/ an HRT doctor about this.

And since you only read that far, you don't know what I was going to say and you're making a huge assumption that my point is that GH/slin is ineffective. That assumption is wrong on your part.

Take a deep breath, go back and finish reading the thread.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on June 30, 2007, 03:03:33 PM
I believe it. i know amatuer guys who use 3000mg of test per week. someone who was close to kamali said he admitted to spending over 30k on drugs for contest prep for the olympia a few years ago.

8)

No one is closer than I am and I could tell you EXACTLY what he did for the Olympia and that's way off! Don't believe everything thing you hear bro. BTW, feel free to post this guys name if you like. I would love to know who this guy is.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 30, 2007, 03:05:22 PM
Yeah, you didn't read my posts. I said:

1. Milos doesn't tell me about drugs and I don't ask.

2. I spoke w/ an HRT doctor about this.

And since you only read that far, you don't know what I was going to say and you're making a huge assumption that my point is that GH/slin is ineffective. That assumption is wrong on your part.

Take a deep breath, go back and finish reading the thread.
Ok, you're right, didn't read the whole thread,

Still, the "canceling out" theory is a misunderstanding. The injected GH doesn't even peak until a couple-three-four hours after injecting so not eating for a hour after (or taking insulin) really doesn't do jack shit. GH is longer acting hormone than most think. The Igf-1 takes 24 hours to peak after a GH inject.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 03:10:44 PM
Ok, you're right, didn't read the whole thread,

Still, the "canceling out" theory is a misunderstanding. The injected GH doesn't even peak until a couple-three-four hours after injecting so not eating for a hour after (or taking insulin) really doesn't do jack shit. GH is longer acting hormone than most think. The Igf-1 takes 24 hours to peak after a GH inject.
Yeah I dunno specifics, but that's just what the HRT doc said...you ask Milos, he's got that radio show monday and is asking for questions  ;D

aside: it's odd how some guys come on the board and say "pros hardly take anything cuz they have great genes...you'd be surprised at how little they actually take" then someone else says just the opposite. who do you believe? For example, ask Lee Priest. He seems really honest and up front, but claims to use hardly anything...
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 03:11:40 PM
No one is closer than I am and I could tell you EXACTLY what he did for the Olympia and that's way off! Don't believe everything thing you hear bro. BTW, feel free to post this guys name if you like. I would love to know who this guy is.
nahh, you know Kamali?


 ;)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on June 30, 2007, 03:13:30 PM
nahh, you know Kamali?


 ;)

Just a little.  ;D but I would seriously love to see how much gear 30K would buy for a 12 week cycle. Would last me 2 lifetimes.  :P
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on June 30, 2007, 03:14:17 PM
Just a little.  ;D but I would seriously love to see how much gear 30K would buy for a 12 week cycle. Would last me 2 lifetimes.  :P
Maybe they got a shitty dealer who inflates prices 50x? ...that'll be $12 for 1 dbol tab...
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 30, 2007, 03:15:35 PM
Yeah I dunno specifics, but that's just what the HRT doc said...you ask Milos, he's got that radio show monday and is asking for questions  ;D
You know damn well that's not a question for the radio LOL

With all due respect I don't think is a man to talk science with. He thinks taking aminos during workouts will cause massive anabolism due to the bloodflow. He also thinks insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body, which it is not.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: AVBG on June 30, 2007, 05:36:57 PM
Yeah I dunno specifics, but that's just what the HRT doc said...you ask Milos, he's got that radio show monday and is asking for questions  ;D
aside: it's odd how some guys come on the board and say "pros hardly take anything cuz they have great genes...you'd be surprised at how little they actually take" then someone else says just the opposite. who do you believe? For example, ask Lee Priest. He seems really honest and up front, but claims to use hardly anything...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radio3.htm
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: willl on July 01, 2007, 05:01:06 AM
so gh36, why the NUBAIN?

are u ashamed to answer or somthing?

there r better things to get high on, there are less addictive painkillers around, + this case also uses Xanax and Prozac (....)

tellme what i wanna hear: do they(inc you) use it to reduce pain from workouts????

that wd be f lame

the amph's etc i understand: they are effective

the gear on itself only should greatly reduce and perhaps annihilate all workout soreness

my guess is they cant stand the countless continuous depot-aches and need to sleep and work their muscle through that pain, therefore nubain.

id use smt else then nubain though


--------------------------------------
how does the liver/kidneys take all this?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Devon97 on July 01, 2007, 05:31:19 AM
I probably shouldn't say but I guess I can make an exception this time. Please do not try to imitate this; it is way to hardcore for the average bodybuilder. If you must copy it, atleast use regular nitro tech/cell tech instead of the hardcore version. Here it goes:
Gakic
Pump Tech
Nitro Tech Hardcore
Cell Tech Hardcore
Anator P70
Creakic (on and off every 4 weeks)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (starting 12 weeks out)
Mass Tech (on and off every 6 weeks)
Kerry's homemade fat free muffins (5 weeks on, 2 weeks off)



Tweeter, you forgot Lanas Egg Whites ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on July 01, 2007, 06:15:42 AM
Yeah, you didn't read my posts. I said:

1. Milos doesn't tell me about drugs and I don't ask.

2. I spoke w/ an HRT doctor about this.

And since you only read that far, you don't know what I was going to say and you're making a huge assumption that my point is that GH/slin is ineffective. That assumption is wrong on your part.

Take a deep breath, go back and finish reading the thread.

You, who obviously have no drug knowledge are trying to prove that this cycle doesn't work properly because of the timing of the GH and Slin injections.  I guess by looking on stage you can see that it doesn't work correctly.  GH15 put this up so that we could look at it and probably say holy shit I never knew they took so much.  You the Dug Guru, are trying to prove him wrong when he didn't even write it in the first place.  Why do you write your own "pro" cycle for us to look at?  Your buddy Milos advocates huge insulin protocols for all of his "team", and along with it probably large increases in the GH usage.  It is evidenced in the large weight gains with him, and waistline gains too.  Stop trying to act as if you have any sort of idea about this, and stick to the Natural Board.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SteelePegasus on July 01, 2007, 06:23:36 AM
I probably shouldn't say but I guess I can make an exception this time. Please do not try to imitate this; it is way to hardcore for the average bodybuilder. If you must copy it, atleast use regular nitro tech/cell tech instead of the hardcore version. Here it goes:
Gakic
Pump Tech
Nitro Tech Hardcore
Cell Tech Hardcore
Anator P70
Creakic (on and off every 4 weeks)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (starting 12 weeks out)
Mass Tech (on and off every 6 weeks)
Kerry's homemade fat free muffins (5 weeks on, 2 weeks off)



aren't you worried about roid rage?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: willl on July 01, 2007, 07:15:58 AM
aren't you worried about roid rage?

xanax prozac n nubain

problem solved

then take amphetamines to get you moving again
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Figo on July 01, 2007, 07:32:08 AM
aren't you worried about roid cell-tech rage?

 :)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Yorkie T on July 01, 2007, 07:40:01 AM
One thing that is blatantly obvious is that GH and slin don't mix.

You've got this guy doing GH 6x/day plus slin in morn and w/ each meal (probably 8-10 meals/day). So the slin will completely negate all effects of the GH.

...and you're trying to sell me on this? not happening today...sorry.

Lots of people are using gh/slin postWO now and gaining fast when they havent gained for years, the gh blunts the shuttling effects of the slin to fat cells, gh and slin does work when used together.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: nukkaready on July 01, 2007, 07:51:36 AM
Yeah, you didn't read my posts. I said:

1. Milos doesn't tell me about drugs and I don't ask.

2. I spoke w/ an HRT doctor about this.

And since you only read that far, you don't know what I was going to say and you're making a huge assumption that my point is that GH/slin is ineffective. That assumption is wrong on your part.

Take a deep breath, go back and finish reading the thread.


get the FUUK out of this thread garraeth... there are few threads worth reading on this board... this one is good. stop messing it up by letting your ego come in and attack gh15 when you truly don't know shit. ever read a package insert of growth hormone?? it says right there that growth hormone therapy can require additional insulin... GH stimulates your pancreas to produce and release addtional insulin... why??? because increased growth hormone levels require higher insulin levels... most of GH effects are mediated by igf1 which requires the simultaneous presence of GH and insulin. that is what mother nature/evolution has intended so stop running your mouth and tell peeople to wait an hour between shots. best thing you can do is shoot gh/slin with a big fat glass of applesauce right after your workout.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: efirkey on July 01, 2007, 07:51:55 AM
How much money would all that cost?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: nukkaready on July 01, 2007, 07:59:03 AM
No one is closer than I am and I could tell you EXACTLY what he did for the Olympia and that's way off! Don't believe everything thing you hear bro. BTW, feel free to post this guys name if you like. I would love to know who this guy is.

dude you are not credible when it comes to KK. you deny that he uses synthol etc. when you can clearly see he does so in his naturally weak arms and so on.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Vince B on July 01, 2007, 08:16:17 AM
How sad for a tip like this to be posted on a bodybuilding board. Let's hope Goodrum doesn't read this thread.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: nukkaready on July 01, 2007, 08:26:53 AM
How sad for a tip like this to be posted on a bodybuilding board. Let's hope Goodrum doesn't read this thread.

how sad????? excuse me.....After all bodybuilding IS drugs.... so yes the bodybuilding board is the most appropriate place for such a post.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on July 01, 2007, 09:06:56 AM
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:YqWiD0V47C5q_M:http://lbnutrition.com/Catalog/nfoscomm/catalog/images/celltech7250.gif) 
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BartBelgium on July 01, 2007, 09:31:01 AM
No MGF
No site injections?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BigSexy50 on July 01, 2007, 09:44:29 AM

get the FUUK out of this thread garraeth... there are few threads worth reading on this board... this one is good. stop messing it up by letting your ego come in and attack gh15 when you truly don't know shit. ever read a package insert of growth hormone?? it says right there that growth hormone therapy can require additional insulin... GH stimulates your pancreas to produce and release addtional insulin... why??? because increased growth hormone levels require higher insulin levels... most of GH effects are mediated by igf1 which requires the simultaneous presence of GH and insulin. that is what mother nature/evolution has intended so stop running your mouth and tell peeople to wait an hour between shots. best thing you can do is shoot gh/slin with a big fat glass of applesauce right after your workout.

My thoughts exactly. Garreth you don't know shit.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: local hero on July 01, 2007, 10:04:41 AM
anyone asking why the nubain has never took much gear before,,,, try shooting more than a few ml a week and see how long u can keep it up until you almost come to tears when your daily shots start to take its toll...youl be in fuckn agony after a few weeks
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:16:38 AM
I'm also wondering if this is a pre-contest cycle for a pro, why the need for such a huge amount of drugs? Shouldn't that pro already have all the mass needed for the contest and just need to maintain and cut?

Doesn't make sense. Why would someone like Coleman take all this shit when he's already huge? By this point, he should only need small dosages of anabolics to maintain while cutting.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Yorkie T on July 01, 2007, 10:32:09 AM
I'm also wondering if this is a pre-contest cycle for a pro, why the need for such a huge amount of drugs? Shouldn't that pro already have all the mass needed for the contest and just need to maintain and cut?

Doesn't make sense. Why would someone like Coleman take all this shit when he's already huge? By this point, he should only need small dosages of anabolics to maintain while cutting.

I cant figure out if your acting dumb, or really are, i was under the assumption you were one of the more clued up on this site.

Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:47:04 AM
I cant figure out if your acting dumb, or really are, i was under the assumption you were one of the more clued up on this site.


When you rip on me, it's always helpful to explain yourself so I can offer a proper rebuttal.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: bodybuildermdpitt on July 01, 2007, 11:09:36 AM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on July 01, 2007, 11:17:41 AM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd
Good post, although I must point out that GH15 did tell everyone not to copy this cycle. GH15...why do you do this to yourself? Do you just have really low self esteem or what? To me, bodybuilding is all about enjoying a healthy lifestyle and taking pride in your own NATURAL accomplishments. Please explain your mindset.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gtbro1 on July 01, 2007, 11:35:40 AM
To me, bodybuilding is all about enjoying a healthy lifestyle

   HHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAH AHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: willl on July 01, 2007, 11:49:43 AM
anyone asking why the nubain has never took much gear before,,,, try shooting more than a few ml a week and see how long u can keep it up until you almost come to tears when your daily shots start to take its toll...youl be in fuckn agony after a few weeks

i can hold daily jects for 10days, rotating, then im out of spots and i wait a day or two before i hit the cycle again, for 2-3months in a row. but indeed, the more u advance in time, the more difficult the spots 'free'themselves of the depots. But painfull??? please gimme a break!! once ur muscle is used to 4ml jects, u aint no virgin no more and the pain subsides, in time u get used to the oils and infact from there on the pain even becomes RARE!!!! u only get pains when u hit sensitive nerves or so, for like 2days, numb pain.

thats why i STILL dont get why the nubain ;)

must be something else

besides, jecting urself shd be fun, the moment u understand what bbing is all about
that point i wont argue with gh36
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: one1234 on July 01, 2007, 11:58:57 AM

Hi GH15:

DO you have family ? Any kids? Does a pro bodybuilder need to be worried about producing kids if he takes juice on and off..?

thanks
one
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tweeter on July 01, 2007, 12:42:52 PM
   HHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAH AHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A healthy lifestyle is what bodybuilding was originally all about; very sad the direction it has taken :-[
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on July 01, 2007, 12:46:20 PM
and we wonder why mainstream america ignores bbing.

Be glad they don't!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on July 01, 2007, 12:48:17 PM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd

How noble of you to care or is it that you just need someone to save? Go here and get you needs fulfilled.

http://www.savethechildren.org/
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The Squadfather on July 01, 2007, 12:48:48 PM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd
oh brother, another internet MD, PhD billionaire. ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BartBelgium on July 01, 2007, 01:13:54 PM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd


If you were that rich you wouldn't waste your time here...
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Vince B on July 01, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
What bothers me is that those calculating the risks are not the guys taking the drugs. Is this what bodybuilding has evolved into? How can Bob and the IFBB accept what is totally beyond what is healthy, sensible, or safe? Where is the science behind the drugs? There is absolutely no way any of that stuff will pass ethics standards for university testing. That means some honcho gurus are experimenting on knuckleheads and have evolved what has to be lunacy. Any person who injects those drugs is plainly crazy. No title or trophy is worth that.

It is one thing to wonder what to do in order to get stubborn muscles to grow after years of slugging away and quite another to accept the drug protocols of what is outlined in this thread. I notice some fellas saying this is an important thread. Yes, it sure is. This is exactly what we should NOT be doing. The more I read about this crap the more ashamed I am to be a bodybuilder. Those so-called pros are tainting the whole sport.
 
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 01, 2007, 06:00:43 PM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd
Are you the doc that posts on Mayhem?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: climber on July 01, 2007, 06:12:32 PM

thats why i STILL dont get why the nubain ;)

must be something else


a lot of pros have chronic tendonitis. the nubain helps them train through it. it's also good helping you to get extra reps out of high rep sets that produce a lot of lactic acid. many bodybuilders take ibuprofin or codeine before training for a similar effect.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SirTraps on July 01, 2007, 07:00:06 PM
Quote
How sad for a tip like this to be posted on a bodybuilding board. Let's hope Goodrum doesn't read this thread.

   hahahahah  ;D  Thats the funniest post ive read in a while Vince.

        Goodrum is the last natural bodybuilder out there and hes going to lose his "virginity" after reading this thread  ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: marcus on July 01, 2007, 07:48:50 PM
I thought Goodrum already juiced?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: SirTraps on July 01, 2007, 07:51:28 PM
Quote
I thought Goodrum already juiced?
;D

        Oh brother, Goodrum must have the worst natural build on the planet.  If hes juiced now.........  hahahahaha ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: bigkahuna on July 01, 2007, 11:33:49 PM
noticed that none of the pros have posted in response to the cycle.

this leads me to believe that a cycle of this nature is not so rare in the pro ranks.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: benchthis on July 01, 2007, 11:47:50 PM
ok big kahuna epic 56 post  ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: dseiler on July 02, 2007, 05:12:19 AM
As much as people will rip this thread apart for giving out "drug" advice, it also should do a good job in SCARING THE HELL OUT OF YOU.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on July 02, 2007, 05:43:59 AM
noticed that none of the pros have posted in response to the cycle.

this leads me to believe that a cycle of this nature is not so rare in the pro ranks.
Or they are silently laughing. That is over the top. You would die taking all of that crap.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: michael arvilla on July 02, 2007, 06:07:59 AM
Don't be to quick to discredit GH-15..........
I  read all of his posts (even if it turned out he wasn't a "Pro"),the knowledge and intelligence is there
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 02, 2007, 06:44:57 AM
Interesting that I'm working with the biggest "drug monster" out there, and I'm on less stuff in a week than this guy is on in a day.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: nder98 on July 02, 2007, 07:06:47 AM
Then enlighten us what you are talking about, stop speaking in code.  Because otherwise we are to assume you don't know shit.

GH + Slin = Immediate weight gain. PERIOD.

I agree, I ran humalog alone for a week and gained 10 lbs..
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on July 02, 2007, 07:21:08 AM
Don't be to quick to discredit GH-15..........
I  read all of his posts (even if it turned out he wasn't a "Pro"),the knowledge and intelligence is there
I could see someone like Craig Titus running a cycle like this or Chris Cormier but i think Ronnie wouldn't even run something like this.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: vinnyvee on July 02, 2007, 09:36:54 AM
I could see someone like Craig Titus running a cycle like this or Chris Cormier but i think Ronnie wouldn't even run something like this.

Your right. He would copy it  and double the dosages on each compound. ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Rimbaud on July 02, 2007, 09:42:15 AM
Don't be to quick to discredit GH-15..........
I  read all of his posts (even if it turned out he wasn't a "Pro"),the knowledge and intelligence is there

True.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Deadpool on July 02, 2007, 09:44:54 AM
Or they are silently laughing. That is over the top. You would die taking all of that crap.

and some have sadly enough
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: kevinf on February 20, 2011, 05:47:50 AM
bump for truth
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Wani on February 20, 2011, 05:58:12 AM
Id say some top pros would do this stack
Not all though
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: ForgottenMuscle on February 20, 2011, 10:52:07 AM
could be added , in final stage of cuttingphase 
10-20 mgs methylphenidate every 2hours throughout day.
timing half anhour before each meal.

20-30 mgs half an hour before working out
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: g101 on February 20, 2011, 12:42:51 PM
gh15,

update this list with a new cycle

include EVERYTHINGGGGGG like fat burners, dosages, compounds etc etc
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 21, 2011, 07:10:22 AM
What has happened to someone in their life to be so messed up that they would risk their health to have temporary muscles?  One of the reasons MMA training is getting so big is that insecure young men are flooding the dojos instead of bodybuilding.  I also believe this is why bodybuilding is in the decline.  Why look like you can kick ass when you can learn to really do it? 

Don't get me wrong.  I have been lifting for over 35 years.  It just kills me to see the same pattern of drug use happen again and again.  A 20 something bodybuilder sacrifices his future by buying expensive drugs to look fantastic.  He loves the attention he gets and neglects the pursuit of education and advancement in career.  Then due to health, legal problems, or finances he quits drugs and then feels lifting without drugs is a waste of time.  I have known more than one guy that pulls out a picture of himself in a thong showing everyone how they use to look.  It's sad.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 01:00:07 PM
What has happened to someone in their life to be so messed up that they would risk their health to have temporary muscles?  One of the reasons MMA training is getting so big is that insecure young men are flooding the dojos instead of bodybuilding.  I also believe this is why bodybuilding is in the decline.  Why look like you can kick ass when you can learn to really do it? 

Don't get me wrong.  I have been lifting for over 35 years.  It just kills me to see the same pattern of drug use happen again and again.  A 20 something bodybuilder sacrifices his future by buying expensive drugs to look fantastic.  He loves the attention he gets and neglects the pursuit of education and advancement in career.  Then due to health, legal problems, or finances he quits drugs and then feels lifting without drugs is a waste of time.  I have known more than one guy that pulls out a picture of himself in a thong showing everyone how they use to look.  It's sad.

what happen is that if you pay closly attetnion about when gh15 speak in insulina terms therei s silence in thr room,,you know why? because everyoen know dorian was insulina size ,,everyone knwo that the insulina is a must part of the gh for this size,,everybody know that the insulina is the reason for any professional size past 200 6% 5'8,, everyone know it!  gh and insulina...notice how no one mention a thing,,when gh15 say it everyone turn wquiet ,,you know why? because that right there is THE HEART AND SOUL of modern bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 01:05:53 PM
What has happened to someone in their life to be so messed up that they would risk their health to have temporary muscles?  One of the reasons MMA training is getting so big is that insecure young men are flooding the dojos instead of bodybuilding.  I also believe this is why bodybuilding is in the decline.  Why look like you can kick ass when you can learn to really do it? 


your right about insecure guys watching/joining mma. not so much insecure in their everyday lives, but insecure in their manhood.

your wrong about "learning how to really do it" in regards to mma.

take kimbo for example. you can watch him fighting on youtube before he ever got into mma/ufc. the guy would literally break your skull open with a punch. had the killer instinct and wasnt scared to use it. the second he gets into ufc he turns into a piece of shit fighter. stops fighting like a wild animal, starts trying to "think about it".


these ufc dudes, most of them, cant fight for shit unless they are fighting against another ufc idiot who fights the same way they do. put em on the street against a savage with killer instinct and theyll get put into a coma.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: TRIX on February 21, 2011, 01:50:27 PM
we are all going to die one day anyway, why not die being a huge muscled bodybuilder

who occasionaly dons the thong...

:D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
gh15,

update this list with a new cycle

include EVERYTHINGGGGGG like fat burners, dosages, compounds etc etc

Yah, where's the equipony?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 02:02:25 PM
What has happened to someone in their life to be so messed up that they would risk their health to have temporary muscles?  One of the reasons MMA training is getting so big is that insecure young men are flooding the dojos instead of bodybuilding.  I also believe this is why bodybuilding is in the decline.  Why look like you can kick ass when you can learn to really do it? 

Don't get me wrong.  I have been lifting for over 35 years.  It just kills me to see the same pattern of drug use happen again and again.  A 20 something bodybuilder sacrifices his future by buying expensive drugs to look fantastic.  He loves the attention he gets and neglects the pursuit of education and advancement in career.  Then due to health, legal problems, or finances he quits drugs and then feels lifting without drugs is a waste of time.  I have known more than one guy that pulls out a picture of himself in a thong showing everyone how they use to look.  It's sad.

WILL EVERYBODY JUST STOP PICKING ON COACH!!!!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 02:34:44 PM
there is no update to make,,

fellas need to understand that ITS GH AND INSULIN that get you to the size of profesional,,not steroid!!! UNTIL ITS UNDERSTODD EVERY ONE WHO DONT DO IT WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY WITH 220 10 % 190 6% TILL THE DAY THEY DIE,,

the diff between profesional and local is that the profesional had no god,,he started very young,,he stoped at nothing,,he would take anything and everything he can get a hand on ,,and on top of that he repsonded well to it,,if you think profeional play with 2 iu gh and 2 iu slin youre severly mistake ,,it is on the clock usage of gh and insulin otherzie ,,,size lost wiehgt decrease and say bye bye to impresive delts

gh15 approved
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: BIG_STI on February 21, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
lol 400mcg of clen with ECA stack on top, I hope no one on here actually tried this.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: dyslexic on February 21, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
As much as people will rip this thread apart for giving out "drug" advice, it also should do a good job in SCARING THE HELL OUT OF YOU.


KInd of like the prison programs where the little gang-bangers have to listen to hardened criminals tell them how it's gonna be once they get inside.

What Gh15 forgot to tell you was to have a kidney/liver donor lined up for your post competition days. That, and a good Psychotherapist to help you deal with being a twink with no hardon capabilities for the rest of your life. Even Viagra won't do much for you at that point.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
lol 400mcg of clen with ECA stack on top, I hope no one on here actually tried this.
might be fatal for some guys, for others- like me- it would be no problem.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 05:02:13 PM
this guy i know is competing in summer hes using... all together now (for gh15  ;))

test prop
equipona
trenbolona
masterona
oxandrolona
T3 + clen + ephedrine
letro + nolva

with lotsss of gh + little slin

doses will not be discussed  8)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 05:03:52 PM
this guy i know is competing in summer hes using... all together now (for gh15  ;))

test prop
equipona
trenbolona
masterona
oxandrolona
T3 + clen + ephedrine
letro + nolva

with lotsss of gh + little slin

doses will not be discussed  8)

hed probably get the same results with test prop+tren ace + gh and thats it.  drop gh and test prop two weeks out, double tren to compensate.. cut water night before show. simple.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Hulkotron on February 21, 2011, 05:04:10 PM
I am shocked there has never been a "gh16" gimmick.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 05:32:22 PM
your right about insecure guys watching/joining mma. not so much insecure in their everyday lives, but insecure in their manhood.

your wrong about "learning how to really do it" in regards to mma.

take kimbo for example. you can watch him fighting on youtube before he ever got into mma/ufc. the guy would literally break your skull open with a punch. had the killer instinct and wasnt scared to use it. the second he gets into ufc he turns into a piece of shit fighter. stops fighting like a wild animal, starts trying to "think about it".


these ufc dudes, most of them, cant fight for shit unless they are fighting against another ufc idiot who fights the same way they do. put em on the street against a savage with killer instinct and theyll get put into a coma.

Oh brother, is there no end to your arrogance and hubris? This coming from a guy who openly boast about willingly bending over and allowing another man to penetrate him with his penis and pound away. I can't think of anything more humiliating, more degrading and more submissive an act that a man can do. And now you presume to be an expert on combat and feel qualified to lecture us on it.

Stick to smoking weed and sucking cock and quit talking about things you know absolutely nothing about.

Two reps short of failure? No, you're always a failure and a real creep to boot.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 05:34:27 PM
I'm starting this stack tomorrow. It's taken me almost 4 years to save up for it.  >:(
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Ron on February 21, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
I'm starting this stack tomorrow. It's taken me almost 4 years to save up for it.  >:(

Yeah, showed this to some in the know, and they are still laughing about it....
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 05:45:56 PM
Yeah, showed this to some in the know, and they are still laughing about it....

I've seen a few myself and I have obviously seen King's and not even in the ballpark.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 05:54:36 PM
Yeah, showed this to some in the know, and they are still laughing about it....

Are you questioning the God of Hormona?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: The RedMeatKid on February 21, 2011, 05:57:08 PM
Did you learn to spell in school?  Or did you grow up in a Gypsy caravan?
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: illwill on February 21, 2011, 06:00:23 PM
Yeah, showed this to some in the know, and they are still laughing about it....

GH15, can you list Ron's stack?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 06:02:28 PM
NOTHING THAT I WRITE IS NOT TRUE! ANYTHING I WRITE ON THIS FORUM IS THE ONE LONG NEVER OFF CYCLES OF TOPS ,,NOT EVRY TOP BUT QUITE A FEW,,

FOR THE LAST FUCKIN TIME,,YOU DO NOT GET 20 INCH ARM WITH 4% BODYFAT WITH CANON BALL DELT WITH TIGHT WASIT THAT GET TO BE PREGO WAIST WITH HARDNESS AND CONDITION UNLESS! YOU ARE ON THE STUFF I MENTION ,,

I NEVER JUST WRITE AND RON THE PEOPLE WHO YOU TALK TO WILL NEVEER TELL YOU THE TRUTH ,,THE REAL TRUTH,,IT IS LIEING CULT,,THEY WONT TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMOENT 3 VERY VERY FAMOUS BODYBUILD HAS LIVER CANCER WAITING ON DEATH,,THEY WONT!

I KEEP TELLIN IT AS IT IS,,I LEAVE OUT THE NARCOTICS AND PAIN KILLER,, IT IS HOW IT IS,,

AND I WOULD NOT BRING IT HERE IF IT WAS NOT TRUTH,,EVERYTHING I PUT GH15 NEXT TO IN HORMONE WORLD IS 100% TRUTH,,NOT IF NOT BUTS,,THE DIFF IS I DO NOT LIE ABOUT IT,,

BODYBUILD ARE THE WORST DRUG ADDICT THERE IS,,OFCOURSE ITS MAINLY HORMONE BUT BODYBUILD WILL STOP AT ABSOLUT NOTHING IF HE IS PROMISED TO JUMP FROM 18 INCH ARM TO 20 AND DO IT ALL UNDER 6% ,,BODYBUILD STOP AT ABTOLIT NOTHING,,AND THE ONE WHO DO STOP AT SOMETHING REMAIN IN THE LITLE LEAGUE CALLED

L O C A L S

gh15 approved
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
GH15, can you list Ron's stack?

no im piss that my word will be doubted,,whiel i here tell it the truth,,asll i do is this ,,this is what i built my castles from ,,this is what i do ,,i make big people

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
GH15, in your honor I am sharing this great song with you.

one of my favorite song

not some homo's version of this song, but the one and only Bob Dylan

Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Bam-bam on February 21, 2011, 06:11:39 PM
NOTHING THAT I WRITE IS NOT TRUE! ANYTHING I WRITE ON THIS FORUM IS THE ONE LONG NEVER OFF CYCLES OF TOPS ,,NOT EVRY TOP BUT QUITE A FEW,,

FOR THE LAST FUCKIN TIME,,YOU DO NOT GET 20 INCH ARM WITH 4% BODYFAT WITH CANON BALL DELT WITH TIGHT WASIT THAT GET TO BE PREGO WAIST WITH HARDNESS AND CONDITION UNLESS! YOU ARE ON THE STUFF I MENTION ,,

I NEVER JUST WRITE AND RON THE PEOPLE WHO YOU TALK TO WILL NEVEER TELL YOU THE TRUTH ,,THE REAL TRUTH,,IT IS LIEING CULT,,THEY WONT TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMOENT 3 VERY VERY FAMOUS BODYBUILD HAS LIVER CANCER WAITING ON DEATH,,THEY WONT!

I KEEP TELLIN IT AS IT IS,,I LEAVE OUT THE NARCOTICS AND PAIN KILLER,, IT IS HOW IT IS,,

AND I WOULD NOT BRING IT HERE IF IT WAS NOT TRUTH,,EVERYTHING I PUT GH15 NEXT TO IN HORMONE WORLD IS 100% TRUTH,,NOT IF NOT BUTS,,THE DIFF IS I DO NOT LIE ABOUT IT,,

BODYBUILD ARE THE WORST DRUG ADDICT THERE IS,,OFCOURSE ITS MAINLY HORMONE BUT BODYBUILD WILL STOP AT ABSOLUT NOTHING IF HE IS PROMISED TO JUMP FROM 18 INCH ARM TO 20 AND DO IT ALL UNDER 6% ,,BODYBUILD STOP AT ABTOLIT NOTHING,,AND THE ONE WHO DO STOP AT SOMETHING REMAIN IN THE LITLE LEAGUE CALLED

L O C A L S

gh15 approved


who are these three bbers silently dying from liver cancer? dont hold back and enlighten us with the truth!! dont let getbig down on this and finish the story please.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 21, 2011, 06:15:47 PM

who are these three bbers silently dying from liver cancer? dont hold back and enlighten us with the truth!! dont let getbig down on this and finish the story please.

time will tell if it's true or not.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
Oh brother, is there no end to your arrogance and hubris? This coming from a guy who openly boast about willingly bending over and allowing another man to penetrate him with his penis and pound away. I can't think of anything more humiliating, more degrading and more submissive an act that a man can do. And now you presume to be an expert on combat and feel qualified to lecture us on it.

Stick to smoking weed and sucking cock and quit talking about things you know absolutely nothing about.

Two reps short of failure? No, you're always a failure and a real creep to boot.

  ::)

someone post a picture of this idiot
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: The RedMeatKid on February 21, 2011, 06:22:20 PM
You're losing credibility with each mispelled word.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Krankenstein on February 21, 2011, 06:23:52 PM
NOTHING THAT I WRITE IS NOT TRUE! ANYTHING I WRITE ON THIS FORUM IS THE ONE LONG NEVER OFF CYCLES OF TOPS ,,NOT EVRY TOP BUT QUITE A FEW,,

FOR THE LAST FUCKIN TIME,,YOU DO NOT GET 20 INCH ARM WITH 4% BODYFAT WITH CANON BALL DELT WITH TIGHT WASIT THAT GET TO BE PREGO WAIST WITH HARDNESS AND CONDITION UNLESS! YOU ARE ON THE STUFF I MENTION ,,

I NEVER JUST WRITE AND RON THE PEOPLE WHO YOU TALK TO WILL NEVEER TELL YOU THE TRUTH ,,THE REAL TRUTH,,IT IS LIEING CULT,,THEY WONT TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMOENT 3 VERY VERY FAMOUS BODYBUILD HAS LIVER CANCER WAITING ON DEATH,,THEY WONT!

I KEEP TELLIN IT AS IT IS,,I LEAVE OUT THE NARCOTICS AND PAIN KILLER,, IT IS HOW IT IS,,

AND I WOULD NOT BRING IT HERE IF IT WAS NOT TRUTH,,EVERYTHING I PUT GH15 NEXT TO IN HORMONE WORLD IS 100% TRUTH,,NOT IF NOT BUTS,,THE DIFF IS I DO NOT LIE ABOUT IT,,

BODYBUILD ARE THE WORST DRUG ADDICT THERE IS,,OFCOURSE ITS MAINLY HORMONE BUT BODYBUILD WILL STOP AT ABSOLUT NOTHING IF HE IS PROMISED TO JUMP FROM 18 INCH ARM TO 20 AND DO IT ALL UNDER 6% ,,BODYBUILD STOP AT ABTOLIT NOTHING,,AND THE ONE WHO DO STOP AT SOMETHING REMAIN IN THE LITLE LEAGUE CALLED

L O C A L S

gh15 approved

HA HA HA...meltdown.....

calm down there fella....you get any more pissed you're libel to shart out the last load of schmoe cum in your ass.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Bam-bam on February 21, 2011, 06:26:51 PM
time will tell if it's true or not.

started a thread about it, got deleted in 1 min, lol
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
 ::)

someone post a picture of this idiot
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 06:29:26 PM
Dude WTF do you eat?? Awesome conditioning.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
  ::)

someone post a picture of this idiot

Let me educate you, fag. Kimbo had more restrictions and rules in his "street fights" than the UFC does. One rule was that you could not hit anybody on the ground and no ground fighting. The vast majority of his fights were against untrained street thugs, though tough guys were not very skilled and were not in the gym every day training as fighters. When he was challenge by a very mediocre UFC fighter, a fighter who quit the UFC after a few fights openingly admitting he was out of league, things did not go so well. Note in this fight that every time Kimbo was in a bad position his Don King wannabe always tried to stop it. Once Kimbo goes against someone with some training, conditioning, and toughness -- as he did when he went into the UFC and here with Sean Gannon -- he loses his will and quits.

 
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
veiny as a cock Pellius
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 06:38:50 PM
Dude WTF do you eat?? Awesome conditioning.

I have the Matt C disease. I don't have much of an appetite and don't really eat much. I have to force myself to eat and set my alarm on my cell so that I don't forget to eat. I'm just under 6'2" but only weigh 185 lbs.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 06:42:09 PM

exactly. youd brake in half if you tripped on a shoelace. pathetic. if you know anything about fighting, its how to avoid one at all costs because you know youd get murdered(literally) with one decent hit to the face.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 06:42:57 PM
I have the Matt C disease. I don't have much of an appetite and don't really eat much. I have to force myself to eat and set my alarm on my cell so that I don't forget to eat. I'm just under 6'2" but only weigh 185 lbs.

I've only known one or two guys like that in my lifetime. One guy actually doesn't like food and only sees it as a inconvenience that he has to eat. Unreal, I love food.  :(
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
exactly. youd brake in half if you tripped on a shoelace. pathetic. if you know anything about fighting, its how to avoid one at all costs because you know youd get murdered(literally) with one decent hit to the face.

I have to say I always knock the fuck out of bodybuilders pretty easily at the club.

I have more trouble against the skinny little guy who are on coke
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Bam-bam on February 21, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
I have the Matt C disease. I don't have much of an appetite and don't really eat much. I have to force myself to eat and set my alarm on my cell so that I don't forget to eat. I'm just under 6'2" but only weigh 185 lbs.

for this kind of condition you are massive at 185 lbs, how much do you bench in a good day?

also, you are spot on about your observations about mma and kimbo, this nutboy tbombz is one another reason why I never even get close to garbage stuff like pot.

btw how did this thread turn to topics such as kimbo and mma?? next thing we know guys are shooting the shit about the nazis and stuff...
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
exactly. youd brake in half if you tripped on a shoelace. pathetic. if you know anything about fighting, its how to avoid one at all costs because you know youd get murdered(literally) with one decent hit to the face.

If you only knew.

One of the best fighters on this planet. It's not about big muscles phaggot.

(http://www.mmagearguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/georges-st-pierre.jpg)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 06:49:58 PM
I have to say I always knock the fuck out of bodybuilders pretty easily at the club.

I have more trouble against the skinny little #### who are on coke

Only people who have actually gotten into real fights knows this. When TDongz sees a man and senses trouble or aggression his first instinct is to drop to his knees with an open mouth or drop his pants and bend over.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
 ::)

first of all, your only making yourself look bad with the anti-gay remarks.

secondly, as much as arguing over the internet about "whose the better fighter" is useless, i would literally break every bone in your body chump. first, id just start walking up to you.. letting you throw as many punches as you want to, and just absorbed your pathetic hits as i near you. then id grab you by the neck and slam your bitchass into the pavement. as i choked you scrawny neck and you squirmed all over gasping for air, id stomp your skull untill it broke open like an egg and had your brain tissue seeping onto the ground.

then id take a picture and send it your family

 :)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Rearden Metal on February 21, 2011, 06:54:56 PM
Current BB's or old guys (the ones with liver cancer).
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Bam-bam on February 21, 2011, 06:56:28 PM
::)

first of all, your only making yourself look bad with the anti-gay remarks.

secondly, as much as arguing over the internet about "whose the better fighter" is useless, i would literally break every bone in your body chump. first, id just start walking up to you.. letting you throw as many punches as you want to, and just absorbed your pathetic hits as i near you. then id grab you by the neck and slam your bitchass into the pavement. as i choked you scrawny neck and you squirmed all over gasping for air, id stomp your skull untill it broke open like an egg and had your brain tissue seeping onto the ground.

then id take a picture and send it your family

 :)


have you ever fought in your whole life? And no, smoking pot while reading comics doesnt count as fighting.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
Only people who have actually gotten into real fights knows this. When TDongz sees a man and senses trouble or aggression his first instinct is to drop to his knees with an open mouth or drop his pants and bend over.

I don't know shit about fighting tho, I just trow out punches until the dude drops on the floor or I slap the fuck out of them.

those aren't really "fights"

but I see your point
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
for this kind of condition you are massive at 185 lbs, how much do you bench in a good day?

also, you are spot on about your observations about mma and kimbo, this nutboy tbombz is one another reason why I never even get close to garbage stuff like pot.

btw how did this thread turn to topics such as kimbo and mma?? next thing we know guys are shooting the shit about the nazis and stuff...

I'm neither a power lifter or bodybuilder. Haven't benched in years. But you're in Brasil, a fighting culture where you grow up fighting so you know.
And blazing the fine herb isn't always bad if you keep it under control. I trained a lot with Rickson when he broke off from Rorion in the early 1990s and he, as well as the rest of his brothers, were not above burning every now and then.

But you're right, I shouldn't high jack this thread. I just couldn't let that queer spout off on something he knows nothing about and has no first hand experience with. Just because he outweighs me, being so much fatter, he thinks he could break me in half. Um, OK. Only behind a keyboard.


Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2011, 07:05:58 PM
yes, i outweight you because im fatter..  ::)   ;D  i have more muscle in my invisible abdominals than you have on your entire body retard


go back to kissing gh15's ass and hoping that one day his drug talk will help you stop looking like a creepy pedo version of mickey mouse that spent a year in aushwitz
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Bam-bam on February 21, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
I'm neither a power lifter or bodybuilder. Haven't benched in years. But you're in Brasil, a fighting culture where you grow up fighting so you know.
And blazing the fine herb isn't always bad if you keep it under control. I trained a lot with Rickson when he broke off from Rorion in the early 1990s and he, as well as the rest of his brothers, were not above burning every now and then.

But you're right, I shouldn't high jack this thread. I just couldn't let that queer spout off on something he knows nothing about and has no first hand experience with. Just because he outweighs me, being so much fatter, he thinks he could break me in half. Um, OK. Only behind a keyboard.




so you developed your physique just from fighting/sparring?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 07:09:17 PM
yes, i outweight you because im fatter..  ::)   ;D  i have more muscle in my invisible abdominals than you have on your entire body retard


go back to kissing gh15's ass and hoping that one day his drug talk will help you stop looking like a creepy pedo version of mickey mouse that spent a year in aushwitz

Pedo huh? Coming from the guy who stated on a public forum how he wanted to face fuck the boy standing next to Roelly who you could just "tell" was a bi-sexual.

Creep!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 07:09:41 PM
I'm neither a power lifter or bodybuilder. Haven't benched in years. But you're in Brasil, a fighting culture where you grow up fighting so you know.
And blazing the fine herb isn't always bad if you keep it under control. I trained a lot with Rickson when he broke off from Rorion in the early 1990s and he, as well as the rest of his brothers, were not above burning every now and then.

But you're right, I shouldn't high jack this thread. I just couldn't let that queer spout off on something he knows nothing about and has no first hand experience with. Just because he outweighs me, being so much fatter, he thinks he could break me in half. Um, OK. Only behind a keyboard.




Hey Pel, Did you know Relson the oldest brother? I trained with him a few times years ago. Nice guy,  he weighed about 165 and I was bout 240 then. He threw me around pretty damn good.  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
so you developed your physique just from fighting/sparring?

No, resistance training is a must. But mostly circuit type training. I've been to Brasil a few times when competing and it's a wild place. But I always made sure I was never alone but with my crew as it can be a very dangerous place.

Anyway, I'll drop out of this thread out of respect to gh15 but I'll deal with that cock sucking clueless pervert at another time.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 07:22:04 PM
Hey Pel, Did you know Relson the oldest brother? I trained with him a few times years ago. Nice guy,  he weighed about 165 and I was bout 240 then. He threw me around pretty damn good.  ;D

Although I started with Rorion when he first opened his academy back in 1991 I'm in Hawaii now so yes, I know Relson. BTW, Rorion is the oldest and the first son of Helio Gracie.

I was lucky enough to live right down the street from Rorion when I was living in Cali.

Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: andreisdaman on February 21, 2011, 07:23:21 PM
all as in ALL top pro bodybuilders are very aware of this routine with litle changes here and there,, and its not only the new guys,,ken used to do it back in the 90s to this extreme,,so did thomas prince,,,so did many others that made a mark on the industry

it seems to me that this is not really GH15..notice how good the grammar seems to be in these posts compared to the usual
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Rickson Gracie on February 21, 2011, 07:27:12 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157047.0;attach=403254;image)

these ease the good pixtures to me and my familys....the Rorion look like the gay Tom Selleck


my friend, the Pellius is easy to make the strangulation to the gay man who make pretend to make sex with the negro womans....the tbombs is the big time gay
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: clued-up on February 21, 2011, 07:27:29 PM
i would literally break every bone in your body chump. first, id just start walking up to you.. letting you throw as many punches as you want to, and just absorbed your pathetic hits as i near you. then id grab you by the neck and slam your bitchass into the pavement. as i choked you scrawny neck and you squirmed all over gasping for air, id stomp your skull untill it broke open like an egg and had your brain tissue seeping onto the ground.

then id take a picture and send it your family


 :o :o :o
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Harry Spotter on February 21, 2011, 07:32:23 PM
::)

first of all, your only making yourself look bad with the anti-gay remarks.

secondly, as much as arguing over the internet about "whose the better fighter" is useless, i would literally break every bone in your body chump. first, id just start walking up to you.. letting you throw as many punches as you want to, and just absorbed your pathetic hits as i near you. then id grab you by the neck and slam your bitchass into the pavement. as i choked you scrawny neck and you squirmed all over gasping for air, id stomp your skull untill it broke open like an egg and had your brain tissue seeping onto the ground.

then id take a picture and send it your family

 :)

hahaha, the only 'hits' you would absorb would be via your gaping anus stud.

(http://www.biotechnologyonline.gov.au/images/contentpages/trisomy21.jpg)

Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2011, 07:43:53 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157047.0;attach=403254;image)

these ease the good pixtures to me and my familys....the Rorion look like the gay Tom Selleck


my friend, the Pellius is easy to make the strangulation to the gay man who make pretend to make sex with the negro womans....the tbombs is the big time gay

Sorry to bring your name into this, master. The picture brings back good memories. Rorion did remind me of a latin Tom Selleck. And like all the Gracies, was a very successful womanizer, and probably still is.

I was just thinking about how when I asked you about the book courses Rorion was thinking of starting up and did you think it would help me. I remember your sarcastic answer because that was one of the disputes you had with him -- commercializing and cheapening the family tradition. Your English was not very good at the time but I got the hint when you said, "Sure, help. Maybe he make lessons over phone too."

It has not gone unnoticed that you are the only one that never came out with any books, instructional tapes, product endorsements... even though you were offered big money. That's why I think if a tape of your fight with Yoji Anjo exists then you are the one that has it and it's only reserved for a private audience.

"Head up, hips for, make like fuck." That always cracks me up. Even after all these years.   
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: johnnynoname on February 21, 2011, 07:55:20 PM
Sorry to bring your name into this, master. The picture brings back good memories. Rorion did remind me of a latin Tom Selleck. And like all the Gracies, was a very successful womanizer, and probably still is.

I was just thinking about how when I asked you about the book courses Rorion was thinking of starting up and did you think it would help me. I remember your sarcastic answer because that was one of the disputes you had with him -- commercializing and cheapening the family tradition. Your English was not very good at the time but I got the hint when you said, "Sure, help. Maybe he make lessons over phone too."

It has not gone unnoticed that you are the only one that never came out with any books, instructional tapes, product endorsements... even though you were offered big money. That's why I think if a tape of your fight with Yoji Anjo exists then you are the one that has it and it's only reserved for a private audience.

"Head up, hips for, make like fuck." That always cracks me up. Even after all these years.   


"make like fuck" ='s THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD

it is way better than "It's not "go with the flow"....It's "go with the go" "

Also, there is a very strong rumor that Master Rickson was supposed to be Action Star of the mid 80's- early 90's that Steven Seagal became
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 08:04:40 PM

"make like fuck" ='s THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD

it is way better than "It's not "go with the flow"....It's "go with the go" "

Also, there is a very strong rumor that Master Rickson was supposed to be Action Star of the mid 80's- early 90's that Steven Seagal became

Anyone notice Rickson in the second Hulk movie?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 08:08:22 PM
I did crazy cycle in my life lol 265 lean now Plan compete at ? Will see
In offseason more then 20ui-30ui slin make waist out of order
I found that shitload of calories is harder on th body then drugs itself
I'm Keto so forget 1gf insulin /  I'm on 18ui Gh 36 ui I believe is the right number to pro size
1250 prop a week will keep mass more won't do much either , more fuck up health
1000mg w primobolan will keep mass
Npp 500mg / deca 300 / enan 300mg once a week th day I carb up
Clen 8 weeks 400mcg a day /Last 3 weeks tren ace EOD Xanax ephedrine
Eq day I'm tired 600mg wake u up lol
I guess that bring me ... Bigger then ever
Masteron give me anxiety I hate it , all oral I hate since poor stomach
Nubain no fucking way will prefer dying
Hydrocortisone pill can cut some pain n help adrenaline function
Too much enan give me HBP
Halo i fell too much like shit I can't imagine what that will bring
T3 fuck that shit also at least for me , bring HBP to scary level
High clean anabolic n low androgen with high hgh do th job
36-48ui Gh a day for years make you a pro if start at 25 no doubt
I party hard in past life i can't tolerate that much
Mix ephidrine n Clen it not healthy , Clen make me sleep
And epdrinine n tren make th last 3 weeks diet easier n party alike hahaha
From my sight is cycle is inhuman
Higher then 4gr a week , gym performance suck'
That amount on ephedrine on steroid I'm skeptical
50mg .. But 180 ? Damn , I will die
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: chaos on February 21, 2011, 08:08:39 PM
hed probably get the same results with test prop+tren ace + gh and thats it.  drop gh and test prop two weeks out, double tren to compensate.. cut water night before show. simple.
How many shows have you done? Which competitors have you prepped?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 08:11:33 PM
I did crazy cycle in my life lol 265 lean now Plan compete at ? Will see
In offseason more then 20ui-30ui slin make waist out of order
I found that shitload of calories is harder on th body then drugs itself
I'm Keto so forget 1gf insulin /  I'm on 18ui Gh 36 ui I believe is the right number to pro size
1250 prop a week will keep mass more won't do much either , more fuck up health
1000mg w primobolan will keep mass
Npp 500mg / deca 300 / enan 300mg once a week th day I carb up
Clen 8 weeks 400mcg a day /Last 3 weeks tren ace EOD Xanax ephedrine
Eq day I'm tired 600mg wake u up lol
I guess that bring me ... Bigger then ever
Masteron give me anxiety I hate it , all oral I hate since poor stomach
Nubain no fucking way will prefer dying
Hydrocortisone pill can cut some pain n help adrenaline function
Too much enan give me HBP
Halo i fell too much like shit I can't imagine what that will bring
T3 fuck that shit also at least for me , bring HBP to scary level
High clean anabolic n low androgen with high hgh do th job
36-48ui Gh a day for years make you a pro if start at 25 no doubt
I party hard in past life i can't tolerate that much
Mix ephidrine n Clen it not healthy , Clen make me sleep
And epdrinine n tren make th last 3 weeks diet easier n party alike hahaha
From my sight is cycle is inhuman
Higher then 4gr a week , gym performance suck'
That amount on ephedrine on steroid I'm skeptical
50mg .. But 180 ? Damn , I will die


This I believe.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Fury on February 21, 2011, 08:13:38 PM
yes, i outweight you because im fatter..  ::)   ;D  i have more muscle in my invisible abdominals than you have on your entire body retard


go back to kissing gh15's ass and hoping that one day his drug talk will help you stop looking like a creepy pedo version of mickey mouse that spent a year in aushwitz

Definitely have more oil in your arms than Pellius.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 08:20:13 PM
This I believe.

Thk u , i try maximum honesty

Diovan for HBP if so , great product
Crestor 10mg a day if cholesterol go wacked
Gabba + piracetam + phenibut = relax cns like amazing

You can't work tho on that type cycle , gym n no life , need a great gf
Some roid rage do occur haha i go in a gym no one know how I am
Social skill are a disaster
And last 3 weeks it complete misanthropic mode no phone , nothing, rent a environment alone
Anw u got no libido then , mirror look great with a intelligence of a 8 years old
Great mental war , you grow from it
All Side effect eventually pass
Moment your lethargic , some days last 5 min
It a crazy intense adventure
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: clued-up on February 21, 2011, 08:26:42 PM
I did crazy cycle in my life lol 265 lean now Plan compete at ? Will see
In offseason more then 20ui-30ui slin make waist out of order
I found that shitload of calories is harder on th body then drugs itself
I'm Keto so forget 1gf insulin /  I'm on 18ui Gh 36 ui I believe is the right number to pro size
1250 prop a week will keep mass more won't do much either , more fuck up health
1000mg w primobolan will keep mass
Npp 500mg / deca 300 / enan 300mg once a week th day I carb up
Clen 8 weeks 400mcg a day /Last 3 weeks tren ace EOD Xanax ephedrine
Eq day I'm tired 600mg wake u up lol
I guess that bring me ... Bigger then ever
Masteron give me anxiety I hate it , all oral I hate since poor stomach
Nubain no fucking way will prefer dying
Hydrocortisone pill can cut some pain n help adrenaline function
Too much enan give me HBP
Halo i fell too much like shit I can't imagine what that will bring
T3 fuck that shit also at least for me , bring HBP to scary level
High clean anabolic n low androgen with high hgh do th job
36-48ui Gh a day for years make you a pro if start at 25 no doubt
I party hard in past life i can't tolerate that much
Mix ephidrine n Clen it not healthy , Clen make me sleep
And epdrinine n tren make th last 3 weeks diet easier n party alike hahaha
From my sight is cycle is inhuman
Higher then 4gr a week , gym performance suck'
That amount on ephedrine on steroid I'm skeptical
50mg .. But 180 ? Damn , I will die


Thk u , i try maximum honesty

Diovan for HBP if so , great product
Crestor 10mg a day if cholesterol go wacked
Gabba + piracetam + phenibut = relax cns like amazing

You can't work tho on that type cycle , gym n no life , need a great gf
Some roid rage do occur haha i go in a gym no one know how I am
Social skill are a disaster
And last 3 weeks it complete misanthropic mode no phone , nothing, rent a environment alone
Anw u got no libido then , mirror look great with a intelligence of a 8 years old
Great mental war , you grow from it
All Side effect eventually pass
Moment your lethargic , some days last 5 min
It a crazy intense adventure

This I believe.

x2
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 08:28:46 PM
Thk u , i try maximum honesty

Diovan for HBP if so , great product
Crestor 10mg a day if cholesterol go wacked
Gabba + piracetam + phenibut = relax cns like amazing

You can't work tho on that type cycle , gym n no life , need a great gf
Some roid rage do occur haha i go in a gym no one know how I am
Social skill are a disaster
And last 3 weeks it complete misanthropic mode no phone , nothing, rent a environment alone
Anw u got no libido then , mirror look great with a intelligence of a 8 years old
Great mental war , you grow from it
All Side effect eventually pass
Moment your lethargic , some days last 5 min
It a crazy intense adventure

I would suggest dropping the Crestor as it will do nothing for you but hamper your muscle gains especially in your lower body among other very bad stuff. Having high cholesterol is NOT indicative to heart disease.  :)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 08:47:07 PM
crestor , my doc said it good, placebo effect made me fell better , heard your theories quite often also, at that point what th hell does what , hard to figure that one out

 i forget to mention

aromasin 25 md ED 7 weeks

 finish with letrozol pharma last 4 weeks one a day, that is superb , come scary cadaver dry , look good on pic , naked is really weird, normal ppls think you are dying haha

th advantage of keto you can load more roids , i wont be able to handle those dosage on carb

keto is doable you need more fat intake, it doesnt make you like coleman but it' bring condition at least for a carb sensitive genetic
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Master Blaster on February 21, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
GH x 6 per/day?

 ::)


God I was so green back then.  ;)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 09:08:56 PM
is this the famous BLP from QC  ???

loll
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 09:28:53 PM
crestor , my doc said it good, placebo effect made me fell better , heard your theories quite often also, at that point what th hell does what , hard to figure that one out

 i forget to mention

aromasin 25 md ED 7 weeks

 finish with letrozol pharma last 4 weeks one a day, that is superb , come scary cadaver dry , look good on pic , naked is really weird, normal ppls think you are dying haha

th advantage of keto you can load more roids , i wont be able to handle those dosage on carb

keto is doable you need more fat intake, it doesnt make you like coleman but it' bring condition at least for a carb sensitive genetic

I hear ya but it's not a theory. Statins block and enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase that allows your liver produce cholesterol, but also ubiquinone that is vital for heart function and dolichol that can effect memory. The stuff is bad news!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2011, 09:43:47 PM
Looking at his first post, there was very little typo's, now its like he forgot english. What gives? Mmmmmmmm!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 09:44:07 PM
i thought GH is supposed to bring your body to homeostasis except for anxiety that depends on the individual and temper while on tren  ??? ???
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 09:55:15 PM

FOR THE LAST FUCKIN TIME,,YOU DO NOT GET 20 INCH ARM WITH 4% BODYFAT WITH CANON BALL DELT WITH TIGHT WASIT THAT GET TO BE PREGO WAIST WITH HARDNESS AND CONDITION UNLESS! YOU ARE ON THE STUFF I MENTION ,,

the stuff you mention aka

test
trenbolona
masterona
equipona

 ??? ???
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
You forgot

Insulin
GH
T3
Clen
Speed
Dnp
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:00:41 PM
I hear ya but it's not a theory. Statins block and enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase that allows your liver produce cholesterol, but also ubiquinone that is vital for heart function and dolichol that can effect memory. The stuff is bad news!

what will be your protocols to fight cholesterol , obviously my asl/ast dhl already damaged haha ????

 hav light gyno one side , i get paranoid n use anti e almost year basis , it what fuck cholesterol i bet

thk u
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
is this the famous BLP from QC  ???

loll

mayb haha
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:04:17 PM
You forgot

Insulin
GH
T3
Clen
Speed
Dnp

insulin off season 20ui is enough more made th pregnant look belly

t3 hbp to crazy level i cant , cafeine does th thyroid job
speed mayb at 18 now at 36 major panic attack
clen hell yeah , damn i wish i can use year basis lol
dnp in canada it's so rare , i prefer injection , contest at 6cc per day

synthol a bit obviously for shitty arms , minimal use , judge panel way too smart
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
mayb haha

loool viens t entrainer a atlantis  :P
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:05:16 PM
Looking at his first post, there was very little typo's, now its like he forgot english. What gives? Mmmmmmmm!

my english suck' big time haha
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
I was just joking about all of that especially the speed and DNP. I'm 48 and last week I tried a sample over the counter fatburner, I asked the guy what was the closest thing to clen and gave me a sample package, I took it the next morning about 7:30am, by noon I thought I was going to have a freaking heart attack....fuck that!!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 10:09:16 PM
the stuff you mention aka

test
trenbolona
masterona
equipona

 ??? ???

that is correct,, i mentioned basics,,the long cycle i APPROVED in first posting is done by bodybuilder ,,AGAIN,,not everyone go this route,,not every one is a mass monster and not everyone died before ,,sse andreas,,what i am giving you si the tip of the top,,the cream of the crop,,i did not say how you will come out of it eventhough quite few survived ok because they were high tolarence to hormone ,, but! they also didnt drinnk and party and do narctotics as oftern as others or at all,, (narcotics = pain killer in majority cases gh15 talk about)

now! and this is importento to understand,,the bodybuilder will never reveal stuck to your eyes,,he may say something here and there,,but everything shoudl multiple by 3-4 ,,i say aagain ,there is bodybuild and then THERE IS BODYBUILD,, there is 5'9 185 lb on stage and THEN THERE IS 5'8 276 LB ON STAGE,,you DO NOT YOU DO NOT YOU DO NOT GET TO THOSE NUMBER I MENTION WITH OUT SEVERE HORMONIZATION ,,ALSO SEO IS BIG BIG PART,,YOU DONT WALK AROUND WITH FUCKED UP ARM LIKE BRACH WAREN AND SUDENLY BECOME IMPROVED AFTER MANY YEARS,,YOU DO NOT! IT IS THE SEO THAT GET THE ARM BETTER IN PROPORTION AND GROW IT,,EVEN THE GOOD ONES USE SYNTOL,,YOU DONT WALK AROUND 5'9 240 LB OF ONCE WAS SWIMMER BEEF PHILLIP HEATH AND THEN SUDENLY GET THE ARM TO 22 INCH PLUS ....WHAT DOES IT IS SEO ,,WHAT IMPROVE AFTER MANY YEARS IS SEO,,DORIAN DID NOT DO IT THE RETARD TODAY IN BODYBUILD DO IT ON A REGULAR BASIS,,DORIAN AND HANEY HAD PRIDE THEY WENT ON STAGE WITH THEIR 19 INCH ARM AND STILLL!!! DOMINATED BECAUSE THEY KNEW CONDITION WAS THE NAME OF THE GAME AND BODYBUILD WAS SEEN IN DIFF LIGHT,,NOW DAY.....YOU GOT EVERY WANNA BE WALKING AROUND WITH 20 INCH ARM ....WHY BECAUSE THEY INJECT SEO INTO THE FUCKIN MUSCLE ALL THE TIME,,WITH LOTS OG HGH LOTS OF INSULINA,, LOTS OF OVERALL SEROID,,AND THEN ON TOP OF IT THEY ARTIFICALY GROW A MUSCLE INTO A BLUB BY SHOOTING IN SEO,,

all of the aboves are facts from every day top competitor that would have mauybe MAYBE 18 inch arm in perfect condition with out seo,,18! the best of best mabe 19!

the moment you understand that groink arms  from this board with the body fat he has are pretty much the cream of the crop size wise for someone on hormones only .... that the day you will understand that competitor with out seo go on stage with 17-19 inch arm at low body fat under 6% and that ! when youll understand that what going on this day with fellas go on stage 20+ inch arm at 4% is simmply a joke  c omplete and utter joke ! ,,IT IS NOT REAL MUSCLE ,,IT IS 18 INCH WITH ADDED OIL INSIDE IT THAT IS BEING PULLED RIGHT,,YES YOU CAN HAVE SOME LINES WHEN YOU EXPLODE ON GH AND INSULIN FROM WITHIN ,,YOU CAN DO SEO RIGHT AND YOU CAN DO SEO WRONG,,YOU ONLY NEED 1 INCH ON ARMD TO MAKE ARM FROM AVAERAGE TO BIG! REMEMBER THAT

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 10:11:37 PM
You forgot

Insulin
GH
T3
Clen
Speed
Dnp

you are a liar ,,a retard,,that was never anything in bodybuild,,thats why at your best you look like pure PURE immitation of frank zane because your doses were like his! but your genetic reposnd was average! thats the fact,,

you dont come teach me what we take,,there is little bodybuild and then there is BIG BODYBUILD,, even the little abuse the flying shit out of hormone now day ,,but the massive bodybuild are walking WALKKKKING pharma ,,you dont walk around 6 feet 300lb at single anything unles you abuse the flying day light out of the pharacy and your drug stack is VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2011, 10:13:13 PM
Calm down sister, read my above post.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
what will be your protocols to fight cholesterol , obviously my asl/ast dhl already damaged haha ????

 hav light gyno one side , i get paranoid n use anti e almost year basis , it what fuck cholesterol i bet

thk u

No need to fight cholesterol. Sugar and carbs is what damages and inflames the arteries. If you are on a lower carb diet like you say then you are fine. As far as anti E I would not use them all the time. Just use them as needed. If you already have gyno then maybe the only fix is surgery, but that depends on how bad it is. Too many guys stay on anti E too long and they are also very dangerous cancer drugs with many side effects.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 10:19:21 PM
insulin off season 20ui is enough more made th pregnant look belly

t3 hbp to crazy level i cant , cafeine does th thyroid job
speed mayb at 18 now at 36 major panic attack
clen hell yeah , damn i wish i can use year basis lol
dnp in canada it's so rare , i prefer injection , contest at 6cc per day

synthol a bit obviously for shitty arms , minimal use , judge panel way too smart

what you write is good,,  it is truth but it is not what the top were doijg,,it is what bodybuild who WANT TO GET PRO CARD DOES ,,a fella like steve kukelo the kid is on this route,,thats how you start,,, from there the road to a complete addict is very VERY SHORT,,you have to maintain everything and you will not ! unless on what i meniton on regular basis,,

life pressure,,women proiblem ,,house rent,,money,, mental health,,energy used in life aside from bodybuld,,then you need to go in gym and train on a regular basis ,,you need to eat on regular baiss ,,you need to sleep TO SLEEP on the right time  or if no job you need to sleep and get good sleep it become 24 7 only bodybuild ,,that inaddition to guast posting ,,inaddition to walk on stage 2-5 times a year,,

if you fellas think you can do it on 500 mg of test lol you are out of your mind,, gh15 for 6 years been THE professor for hormones on getbig and became world wide known name ouf of its postings ,,with mails from all over world and special offers that been refused ONLY because the truth shall be known ,,

and yes after the abuse some go and have problem of kidney and liver canerous,,and need new kidney and they STILL LOOK SICK AND ARE SICK AND STIL ON HORMONES!!!

anyone who actually argue this has no clue to realmodern bodybuild,,has no idea how hard it is to walk around 300lb at 5'8 ,,it is not possible

jason within 6 months of hormones = 200lb of 15% softness ,,but! as you all know he wil never have off because it is for life,,he will do the regular gym rat balonie and will walk around 230lb because this is ADDICTIVE,,

take the real ones who went truly off and see where they are,,

MUSTAF

THOMAS PRINCE

AND MANY MANY MORE,,EASY TO FIND WITH PICTURES

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
No need to fight cholesterol. Sugar and carbs is what damages and inflames the arteries. If you are on a lower carb diet like you say then you are fine. As far as anti E I would not use them all the time. Just use them as needed. If you already have gyno then maybe the only fix is surgery, but that depends on how bad it is. Too many guys stay on anti E too long and they are also very dangerous cancer drugs with many side effects.

surgery is th way , it about 9k in montreal , that th rough part

got 2 years to go n then quiet down

thk u
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:34:48 PM
what you write is good,,  it is truth but it is not what the top were doijg,,it is what bodybuild who WANT TO GET PRO CARD DOES ,,a fella like steve kukelo the kid is on this route,,thats how you start,,, from there the road to a complete addict is very VERY SHORT,,you have to maintain everything and you will not ! unless on what i meniton on regular basis,,life pressure,,women proiblem ,,house rent,,money,, mental health,,energy used in life aside from bodybuld,,then you need to go in gym and train on a regular basis ,,you need to eat on regular baiss ,,you need to sleep TO SLEEP on the right time  or if no job you need to sleep and get good sleep it become 24 7 only bodybuild ,,that inaddition to guast posting ,,inaddition to walk on stage 2-5 times a year,, if you fellas think you can do it on 500 mg of test lol you are out of your mind,, gh15 for 6 years been THE professor for hormones on getbig and became world wide known name ouf of its postings ,,with mails from all over world and special offers that been refused ONLY because the truth shall be known ,,and yes after the abuse some go and have problem of kidney and liver canerous,,and need new kidney and they STILL LOOK SICK AND ARE SICK AND STIL ON HORMONES!!!
anyone who actually argue this has no clue to realmodern bodybuild,,has no idea how hard it is to walk around 300lb at 5'8 ,,it is not possible
jason within 6 months of hormones = 200lb of 15% softness ,,but! as you all know he wil never have off because it is for life,,he will do the regular gym rat balonie and will walk around 230lb because this is ADDICTIVE,,
take the real ones who went truly off and see where they are,,
MUSTAF
THOMAS PRINCE
AND MANY MANY MORE,,EASY TO FIND WITH PICTURES
gh15 approved

hardcore honesty , i cant be pro n dont want too , too old now too late , anw will go national finish 10th. im 36 at 265 wont built 25 pounds of muscle at that age even on higher hgh , go hrt n try repair damage after national to be somewhat proud
i now n then fell health fell apart n health awareness, knows 2 years it all i can afford

it's a line between emancipation n self destructiveness,,, intense lifestyle

from my vision to be 300 pounds it starting at 20 years , got th full easy money goin n plan ahead th next 10-15 years , th only way to go in cutler range , entire life planing + tons of $$$ + genetics
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
surgery is th way , it about 9k in montreal , that th rough part

got 2 years to go n then quiet down

thk u

 No prob, come to the US if you can it's much cheaper. This guy is one of the best.

http://plasticsurgery4u.com/
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
No prob, come to the US if you can it's much cheaper. This guy is one of the best.

http://plasticsurgery4u.com/

i wish im usa ban ,,, lol ,,,, could get with waiver crap ,, a years n half paperwork

had great years in NYC , it ' now turn flat boring ,,,

thk u
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 21, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to use that much of shit!

 ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 21, 2011, 10:42:54 PM
hardcore honesty , i cant be pro n dont want too , too old now too late , anw will go national finish 10th. im 36 at 265 wont built 25 pounds of muscle at that age even on higher hgh , go hrt n try repair damage after national to be somewhat proud
i now n then fell health fell apart n health awareness, knows 2 years it all i can afford

it's a line between emancipation n self destructiveness,,, intense lifestyle

from my vision to be 300 pounds it starting at 20 years , got th full easy money goin n plan ahead th next 10-15 years , th only way to go in cutler range , entire life planing + tons of $$$ + genetics

yes,,and this is one thign i dont mention enogh ,,

ON TOP OF ALL THE HOMRONES BUFFET YOU HAVE AND TAKE IF LEGIT,,YOU NEED OEN THING TO BE ON YORU SIDE,,IT IS CALLED TIME! ,,YOU NEED TIME AND EVEN MORE IMPORTENTO YOU NEED

BEST GENETIC RESPOND TO THSOE HORMONES,,this is something you need to understand ,, you need your body to be able to tolerate high dose,,you need your mental health to be able to do it ,,you need to know what it is to forget about partying because you are not chris comair he could pull it many cant and even he got sick and never won the big one,,

a bodybuilder with the doses taken today and the product need a life dedicated to bodybuld but it will be worth nothing if body collapse and your respond is 50% good,,


so next time when you go in the bathroom in gym and look right and left so no one se and take your tank top off and pose....you need to ask yourself is my repond hyper,, do i see the size going bazzook ,,do i see condition remain the same while growing ,, yes with all thoese hormones you need to ask yourself this fella while you in the nice light of the gym bathroom,, you need to do it because i can garentee you that somewhere in the world there is another fella doing exactly what you do with same dedication ,,same hormone availability ,,all legit and he also check horese shoe and abs tie in ,,and delt width and chest thickness and all that on regular basis every 10 min BUT ! his genetic repsond is phenominal so he does it just like you do it but he progress 2 times faster ir not more,,,

so this is all you need to do ,,be hones twith yourself after you are on all the hormones gh insulin steroid,,you cant do it before because you have pazzle that is not complete so you cant do it until you complete it ,,but then! when everything is with you and legit and been on it good 12 months,,it is time to ask yourself

do i have what it take to get there,,then you decide to stay amatuer or go more,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:44:46 PM
You're welcome. Hey is this you?   http://benoitlapierre.com/index.html

yes but will ask mod to take it out haha


i dont want that personal exposure at all, even tho it' reek th obvious lol

i look much different now , i change in last 2 years on 18ui a day haha
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 21, 2011, 10:46:31 PM
yes but will ask mod to take it out haha


i dont want that personal exposure at all, even tho it' reek th obvious lol

i look much different now , i change in last 2 years on 18ui a day haha

Don't worry bro everyone here makes fun of each other. Welcome to Getbig.  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:50:06 PM
Don't worry bro everyone here makes fun of each other. Welcome to Getbig.  ;D

i mean last 2 months,, damn 18 ui for 2 years i wish

seriously 18ui is fucking a amazing

on serostim , i try few generic n it doesnt do much anymore,, in canada easier get phamgrade gh then generic , most generics are loose ghrp6 form
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 10:56:40 PM
a lot of guys in montreal sell blue tops

most are garbage
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:58:36 PM
yes,,and this is one thign i dont mention enogh ,,

ON TOP OF ALL THE HOMRONES BUFFET YOU HAVE AND TAKE IF LEGIT,,YOU NEED OEN THING TO BE ON YORU SIDE,,IT IS CALLED TIME! ,,YOU NEED TIME AND EVEN MORE IMPORTENTO YOU NEED

BEST GENETIC RESPOND TO THSOE HORMONES,,this is something you need to understand ,, you need your body to be able to tolerate high dose,,you need your mental health to be able to do it ,,you need to know what it is to forget about partying because you are not chris comair he could pull it many cant and even he got sick and never won the big one,,

a bodybuilder with the doses taken today and the product need a life dedicated to bodybuld but it will be worth nothing if body collapse and your respond is 50% good,,


so next time when you go in the bathroom in gym and look right and left so no one se and take your tank top off and pose....you need to ask yourself is my repond hyper,, do i see the size going bazzook ,,do i see condition remain the same while growing ,, yes with all thoese hormones you need to ask yourself this fella while you in the nice light of the gym bathroom,, you need to do it because i can garentee you that somewhere in the world there is another fella doing exactly what you do with same dedication ,,same hormone availability ,,all legit and he also check horese shoe and abs tie in ,,and delt width and chest thickness and all that on regular basis every 10 min BUT ! his genetic repsond is phenominal so he does it just like you do it but he progress 2 times faster ir not more,,,

so this is all you need to do ,,be hones twith yourself after you are on all the hormones gh insulin steroid,,you cant do it before because you have pazzle that is not complete so you cant do it until you complete it ,,but then! when everything is with you and legit and been on it good 12 months,,it is time to ask yourself

do i have what it take to get there,,then you decide to stay amatuer or go more,,

gh15 approved

BOOM , you are god lol wow , im aint pro but i can relate to this

my choice is made im having fun n go with mild obsession , take care of princess offseason n go broke for contest

im a singer , artist , philosopher , i could not had be narrow mind to bodybuilding
and i had prioritize decent lifestyle over hgh expense , it took me too long to balance both
i couldnt not be on gh n live in shit hole lol
i was small n insecure so building mass came my protective shield and overtime i came a men n it wasnt related to gain muscle mass at all , somewhere i will give my life to satan to look like warren but anyhow i can totally explain th reason so,,,
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 10:59:29 PM
a lot of guys in montreal sell blue tops

most are garbage

in montreal there' is no money , ppls cant afford better
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 21, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
ya and they still rip you off lmaooo

greedy hell's  :P
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Benoitlapierre on February 21, 2011, 11:08:04 PM
ya and they still rip you off lmaooo

greedy hell's  :P

bikers left th steroid industry long ago , th black market money at eff 217 , it now anyone n so diluted , at least it's not under radar at all, ugl who get caught it crazy jealous gf who balckmail lol
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: marcos chacon on February 22, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
and now tell us what the hell u have toeat to maintain size using all this shit??? burguer king day long i suppose???

iluminate me!!!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 22, 2011, 12:45:29 AM
and now tell us what the hell u have toeat to maintain size using all this shit??? burguer king day long i suppose???

iluminate me!!!


Mmmmm, Burger King.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 22, 2011, 12:51:48 AM
and now tell us what the hell u have toeat to maintain size using all this shit??? burguer king day long i suppose???

iluminate me!!!

Size is maintained with drugs not food. Drugs build the size so it stands to reason that you need to maintain the actual level of drugs used to keep what you have built thru drug use. This is not to say that I believe the level of drugs that GH15 is endorsing.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 12:55:36 AM
and now tell us what the hell u have toeat to maintain size using all this shit??? burguer king day long i suppose???

iluminate me!!!

well friend,, after you talkined balonie to those kidos about the ghprgdeo-2 ....i guess you cant talk too much about reality in bodybuild,,but! to your question ,,

diet DOES NOT MATTER UNLESS YOU NEED TO BE ON STAGE 4% ,,YOU CAN WALK AROUND 6% AFTER 12 MONTHS OF GH USAGE ON TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONA EQUIPONA AND MASTERONA WITH OUT MUCH ATTENTION TO CLEAN DIET ASIDE FROM KEEPING RATIOS OF MACROS,,YOU NEED ENOUGH PROTIEN FOR YOUR LEAN SIZE AND YOU NEED TO KEEP CARBS HIGH! ON GH WHILE CYCLING CARBS THROUGH OUT THE WEEKS,,

ofcourse i do not tlel you to go drink canolona oil all day long,,no! what i do say is that you can sit in americano 5guys and eat burgers night in night out and you will be walking 6% at 220 lb effortless as long as you are on legit gh and legit steroid,,

if you add insulin and you have to add it inorder to get to the size and mesurment you yourself hold and you know ! it well....you need to keep diet more specific after shorts but also on mega doses of gh and insulin aside from insulin window you can still eat NOT CLEAN

clean diet is a lie ,,it is a complete lie that was made up by liar hormonizers to make bodybuild seem more than it is,,

clean diet place is ONLY ONLY ONLY when you decide to go down to 4% from 6-7 %,,only then i when you take your stupid containers around ,,but still on mega dose gh insulin and steroid so you keep every little bit of size you can


and the sad thing is that you KNOW IT ,and you chose to twist the truth to fit you! same as all the rest of the fellas who come here on real names,,thats th eonly activity in the world Bodybuild,,THAT...people lie so much ,,it is crazy ,,if you had thos eproducts with out need for script as in not controlled  in americana there woudl be so many professional and top amtuer bodybuild would lose its magic for the brain washed teenagers....and this is the truth! everyone know it is the truth but still many choose to sit and twist reality to fit their monthly income,,

truth is truth no matter how you look at it friend

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 22, 2011, 12:56:43 AM
Size is maintained with drugs not food. Drugs build the size so it stands to reason that you need to maintain the actual level of drugs used to keep what you have built thru drug use. This is not to say that I believe the level of drugs that GH15 is endorsing.

I love it when Marcos plays the innocent bodybuilder that has never heard of HGH usage, or other drugs...  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
when i gave this exazmple i did not mean every one does it ,,i meant some do! ,, and yes,,if you take a bodybuild off their trenbolona testosterona and gh ...you have in record time a shadow of a former self,, this is how it work and i will elaborate

first 2-3 weeks off you look the best you ever looked,,actually after 14 days you will look the best bodybuild in your local gym when no drug taken for 14-20 days...aka thats why we stoip alot of the drugs before competition,,,common sense,,
after 3 week with no hormones you will be able to see all muscle lines clearly ,,it will all look marvelous you will look bigger and! be stronger,,

but then THENNNN COME THE ONE MONTH MARK,,

AFTER 4-5 WEEKS SUDDENLY YOU DONT FEEL LIKE TRAINING AS MUCH,,DEPRESSION SITS IN AND LAZYNES KICK IN ,,YOU THEN SAY OK ILL GO TO GYM 3 TIME A WEEK TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN,,YOU TRY TO DO IT THE BEST DO IT BUT THEY CANT MAINTAIN ANYTHING BECAUSE NO HORMONES IN SYSTEM MEAN CRASH NO MATTER WHAT PCT BALONIE YOU HEARD ON INTERNETS,,PCT IS BALONIE PERIOD,,BODY RETURN TO HOMEOSTATIS ITSELF TAKE TIME THOUGH,,

THEN! AFTER INITIAL CRASH COME THE GOING TO THE GYM 1 MAYBE 2 TIMES A WEEK UNTIL MAIL MAN DROP THE NEXT PRODUCTS IN THE MAIL BOX,,,OR GURO BRING THEM ,ETC,,THATS JUST HOW IT IS ,,YOU DONT TRAIN OFF YOUR ALL SYSTEM IS SHUTTING ,,ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE SERIOUS BODYBUILD AND SERIOUS LIFTER THAT LIFT HEAVY,,YOU JUST CANT PERFORM AS WELL


so from being the best looking bodybuild after 3 weeks when you say gh15 maybe didnt know what he say....you become a depressed miniature bloofy version of your former self,,you try to tell yourelf oh hhhhh im same weight on scale....a pound here pound there,,,but no! you are not the same size,,you think you are but you are not ,,you gain fat and bloofyiness you lose muscle in extreme rate,,only later on into month 3 when someone tell your bud in gym....umm what happened to him he used to be big/huge/beast/fill in blank....only then when bud tell you that ONLY then you rush home go to gh15 say sorry  forgive me for sins you are god i need help,,,and then hooopla back on hormones

coach calls it muscle memory....i call it HORMONES SWIMMING POOL ,,im right he is wrong ,,the end

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 01:06:01 AM
I love it when Marcos plays the innocent bodybuilder that has never heard of HGH usage, or other drugs...  ;D ;D ;D



funny eh? lol he try to push them the fucki ghprehga2 as legit gh or as any type of replacement for gh ,,amazing just amazing

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: mossel on February 22, 2011, 01:28:52 AM
After reading Muscle: A Writer's Trip Through a Sport With No Boundaries I always thought the Andreas Munzer cycle was BS...


But now i'm in doubt...



GH15 what's your take on this Munzercycle... is it the truth?


Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 01:37:25 AM
whateverr he took dont matter,,fella been dead for many years,,let him rest,,but! people need to know that this days there are fellas ,,especialy early 2000s that used to take trenbolona 200mg every single day for months none stop im talking here 12 months none stop at 200+mg every day...then on top of that they did pain killer ,,they did cocaine narcotics etc,,they went party drank,,,so now they want on livers,,,

what fuck bodybuilder is anything but hormones,,the pain killer ,,the narcotics,,the drinking,,yes 12 month every day 200mg trenbolona is alot,,but rest assure what fuck them up is not this ,,it is when they add the 6 pack beer with the advil and in many times lot worse than advil,,,first you are invinsible nothing hrut,,then with time ,,one yuear 2 year sometime litle more you fall apart from within ,,the hormones get bad name becuase they have muscle but in reality its the other shit who get them 6 feet under or to hopital on waiting list,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 22, 2011, 03:38:08 AM
and now tell us what the hell u have toeat to maintain size using all this shit??? burguer king day long i suppose???

iluminate me!!!

I guess it's bullshit you can eat junk on GH yet be lean. But it's true you can eat junk on gh peptide.  ::) :D

i started using as indicated ,onc or twice a week,whit the doses indicated ,changes started when doing it eod 200mcg for me,its a new stuf,well not so new olympics athletes have been using for a long time , no doping,i got leaner ,maintain size and still can eat junk.


 ;D

i hate myself every time i have to pin and see that image in the mirror,

(http://www.luciapokalen.nu/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/marcos.png)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 22, 2011, 03:39:00 AM
BOOM , you are god lol wow , im aint pro but i can relate to this

my choice is made im having fun n go with mild obsession , take care of princess offseason n go broke for contest

im a singer , artist , philosopher , i could not had be narrow mind to bodybuilding
and i had prioritize decent lifestyle over hgh expense , it took me too long to balance both
i couldnt not be on gh n live in shit hole lol
i was small n insecure so building mass came my protective shield and overtime i came a men n it wasnt related to gain muscle mass at all , somewhere i will give my life to satan to look like warren but anyhow i can totally explain th reason so,,,

Wow! This is a great post. Really gives you an insight, a snap shot, of a bodybuilder's life spoken honestly. You're not going to find this type of stuff on any other board. gh15 has really started a movement with his posts here over the years.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Meso_z on February 22, 2011, 03:54:09 AM
I guess it's bullshit you can eat junk on GH yet be lean. But it's true you can eat junk on gh peptide.  ::) :D

 ;D

(http://www.luciapokalen.nu/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/marcos.png)

:D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: mossel on February 22, 2011, 04:20:39 AM
whateverr he took dont matter,,fella been dead for many years,,let him rest,,but! people need to know that this days there are fellas ,,especialy early 2000s that used to take trenbolona 200mg every single day for months none stop im talking here 12 months none stop at 200+mg every day...then on top of that they did pain killer ,,they did cocaine narcotics etc,,they went party drank,,,so now they want on livers,,,

what fuck bodybuilder is anything but hormones,,the pain killer ,,the narcotics,,the drinking,,yes 12 month every day 200mg trenbolona is alot,,but rest assure what fuck them up is not this ,,it is when they add the 6 pack beer with the advil and in many times lot worse than advil,,,first you are invinsible nothing hrut,,then with time ,,one yuear 2 year sometime litle more you fall apart from within ,,the hormones get bad name becuase they have muscle but in reality its the other shit who get them 6 feet under or to hopital on waiting list,,

gh15 approved

affirmative
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: marcos chacon on February 22, 2011, 04:25:24 AM
bunch of idiots on this boards keep believing gh15 , and keep that path u will have a very long career in bb.,

beleive what the hell u want

i just keep writing here for the fun coz, its shameless a guy called gh15 that speaks like he was god or god father!! and loads of kids believe him and take hat way.

now tell me whatever u want i dont fucking care,only one thing i can say i am 24 years in the game and still here and healthy,and many years to come.

go gh15 way and be happy.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 04:46:11 AM
bunch of idiots on this boards keep believing gh15 , and keep that path u will have a very long career in bb.,

beleive what the hell u want

i just keep writing here for the fun coz, its shameless a guy called gh15 that speaks like he was god or god father!! and loads of kids believe him and take hat way.

now tell me whatever u want i dont fucking care,only one thing i can say i am 24 years in the game and still here and healthy,and many years to come.

go gh15 way and be happy.


Please using all your 24 years in the game give us a steroid cycle that would help us kids improve our physiques as we aspire to be pro's like yourself, serious question so please give honest advice :)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 22, 2011, 04:51:11 AM
Please using all your 24 years in the game give us a steroid cycle that would help us kids improve our physiques as we aspire to be pro's like yourself, serious question so please give honest advice :)

Not going to happen.

He will post some BS about 500mg Test with 2cc Winstrol 4 weeks before contest and fancy peptides that "aren't doping".
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Meso_z on February 22, 2011, 04:54:59 AM
Not going to happen.

He will post some BS about 500mg Test with 2cc Winstrol 4 weeks before contest and fancy peptides that "aren't doping".

Plazmosis 2 weeks on - 2 weeks off. For 8 weeks.

Youre gonna need a good pct to keep your "gains" of water and lard and of course to recover - plazmosis is some potent stuff.

I suggest novadex xt by gaspari. and bulgarian tribulus for big balls.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 04:58:32 AM
Not going to happen.

He will post some BS about 500mg Test with 2cc Winstrol 4 weeks before contest and fancy peptides that "aren't doping".

He can always prove us wrong, i remember before he said 1iu per day of gh and 3 dianabol tabs or some homo shit ::)
he says gh15 is full of shit but why doesnt he tell us the ''real'' truth? at least gh15 doesnt take us for gullible fools like other pro's like Marcos do, we were not born yesterday for fucks sake ::)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 22, 2011, 05:19:36 AM
He can always prove us wrong, i remember before he said 1iu per day of gh and 3 dianabol tabs or some homo shit ::)
he says gh15 is full of shit but why doesnt he tell us the ''real'' truth? at least gh15 doesnt take us for gullible fools like other pro's like Marcos do, we were not born yesterday for fucks sake ::)

Yes, and in the end it'll all boil down to "nutrition timing" and "training style".  ::) ::)

Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 05:37:52 AM
Yes, and in the end it'll all boil down to "nutrition timing" and "training style".  ::) ::)



If not that then he will play ''genetics'' card ::)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Tito24 on February 22, 2011, 05:40:37 AM
Same dipshit moron who would recommend it.

welcome back keith ,glad it all was a bad joke.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 22, 2011, 05:44:35 AM
If not that then he will play ''genetics'' card ::)

Oh yeah, i forgot about that!

Genetics play a major role in professional bodybuilding, not everyone has the "genetics" to become 250lbs @ 4% bf.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 06:34:10 AM
Oh yeah, i forgot about that!

Genetics play a major role in professional bodybuilding, not everyone has the "genetics" to become 250lbs @ 4% bf.  ::) ::)

I think the word ''genetics'' has a different meaning in the secret world of pro's, its code word for SOURCE, meaning, you have good genetics = you got a good source
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Shockwave on February 22, 2011, 06:54:42 AM
How many shows have you done? Which competitors have you prepped?
This x2.
Hahaha.
Kid gets a smidgen of real world experience and talks to a few big guys and suddenly thinks hes a guru.
Like my instructor says, a little bit of knowledge is way more dangerous to some people than just being ignorant.
Ignorance=bliss.
Little bit of knowledge+intelligent but ignorant person=disaster.
Tbombz is decently intelligent, arm him with a little bit of knowledge, and suddenly hes telling everyone that will listen to him what to do, even if they have ten times his experience. We see it all the time. Insecure kid thinks hes hot shit cause hes got it all figured out now that hes gone through some difficult life experiences and has some experience.  :-\
The only thing ive found, the more I lean, the more I realize I dont know shit.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Tito24 on February 22, 2011, 06:55:50 AM
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20091112/daily_picdump_284_08.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: no one on February 22, 2011, 09:15:24 AM
bunch of idiots on this boards keep believing gh15 , and keep that path u will have a very long career in bb.,

beleive what the hell u want

i just keep writing here for the fun coz, its shameless a guy called gh15 that speaks like he was god or god father!! and loads of kids believe him and take hat way.

now tell me whatever u want i dont fucking care,only one thing i can say i am 24 years in the game and still here and healthy,and many years to come.

go gh15 way and be happy.


hyou goin to tell us you built your physique with less than half the doses he mentions?

dont even start- there are a lot of guys here who compete. don't think that by discrediting gh15 you validate your lies about your usage.

you might fool the majority of the people here, but not all of us ;)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: dyslexic on February 22, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
The 'many years to come' part is what floors me...


I'd be real careful with that statement. If (and I say "IF") you've been in the game for 24 years and you probably didnt start truly bodybuilding until your late teens... well, do the math, right?


"Many years to come..."


You keep telling yourself that. And, BTW, isn't it a bit ironic the way you post with the same purposeful misspellings and such?


Why all the anonymity? What are you afraid of Mr. "I don't give a fuck?"
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 22, 2011, 02:22:16 PM
bunch of idiots on this boards keep believing gh15 , and keep that path u will have a very long career in bb.,

beleive what the hell u want

i just keep writing here for the fun coz, its shameless a guy called gh15 that speaks like he was god or god father!! and loads of kids believe him and take hat way.

now tell me whatever u want i dont fucking care,only one thing i can say i am 24 years in the game and still here and healthy,and many years to come.

go gh15 way and be happy.


Why should we believe you when you've told us obvious lies? If you're so healthy why are your once massive calves wasting away?
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: dustin on February 22, 2011, 04:26:04 PM
bunch of idiots on this boards keep believing gh15 , and keep that path u will have a very long career in bb.,

beleive what the hell u want

i just keep writing here for the fun coz, its shameless a guy called gh15 that speaks like he was god or god father!! and loads of kids believe him and take hat way.

now tell me whatever u want i dont fucking care,only one thing i can say i am 24 years in the game and still here and healthy,and many years to come.

go gh15 way and be happy.


Marcos, you're a drugged out fucking clown. We're privy to what pro bodybuilders take. Some of us train with them, high level amateurs or at least talk about these substances with people that now how to use them effectively. Now that forums and social media are so huge, you cannot tell a lie on the internet. Thousands of people from nerds, to losers, to experts will call you out and pick you the fuck apart.

gh15 is honest about everything. He doesn't have to worry about letting people know that PCT is a waste of time, that running tons of exotic compounds is a waste of time, etc. You can stick to your schmoe sessions and selling gym rats cycles of shit including wasteful ancillaries used for PCT to double your profit margin. You are a scum bag and your shitty body is falling apart. Fix whatever's going wrong in your drug regimen and stop posting on Getbig. You have bigger problems to worry about, chump.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Spike on February 22, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Marcos, you're a drugged out fucking clown. We're privy to what pro bodybuilders take. Some of us train with them, high level amateurs or at least talk about these substances with people that now how to use them effectively. Now that forums and social media are so huge, you cannot tell a lie on the internet. Thousands of people from nerds, to losers, to experts will call you out and pick you the fuck apart.

gh15 is honest about everything. He doesn't have to worry about letting people know that PCT is a waste of time, that running tons of exotic compounds is a waste of time, etc. You can stick to your schmoe sessions and selling gym rats cycles of shit including wasteful ancillaries used for PCT to double your profit margin. You are a scum bag and your shitty body is falling apart. Fix whatever's going wrong in your drug regimen and stop posting on Getbig. You have bigger problems to worry about, chump.

TRUTH

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1900000/Animated-GIFS-the-joker-1971583-400-233.gif)
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: johnnynoname on February 22, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
welcome back keith ,glad it all was a bad joke.



bwaahahahahahahahaahahah ah
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 05:23:59 PM
its ok i do not expct anythign else from marcos,,he work on the goolability new comer and fellas who realy want to be good bodybuild and succed and are couple years in it,,thoe are the ones who may buy his balonie

the reality of the matter is this

bodybuild is something you cant just put on hold and say ok now i am naturalo clean,,you dont and cant do it especialy at higher level,,espcialy when livelihood is from it,,bodybuild is somethign you BUILD,,you build is LAYER BY LAYER phase by phase,,

i till have to this day kidos come to me in internet to ask me why does the gh they take for 2 month and testosterona didnt make them to a regional champ ,,

IT IS LAYER BY LAYER FRIENDS,,IT IS SPECIFIC PROCESS ,,AND TIME IS THE MOST IMPORENT THING IN IT ALONG WITH LEGIT PRODUCT,,


first of you can nto look like marcos or kukelo or anyone of the top amature level with out consistant USAGE OF HORMONES,,it is build months by month year by year,,,it is stages upon stages of never off only chaging product and the base is usually always there

you can not take hgh and go from 14% to 6% in matter of one month no matter how amazing legit the hgh is ....what happen is you start developoin muscle fiber,,,you reduce bodyfat due to that and in general and week by week you get leaner and more sculpted,,,then there are mark points down the road,,

ther is the one month mark

the 2 month mark

the 3 month mark

4

5

and the 6 month mark


what you fellas ae looking for and comlain is that you want to see the muscle pop out and the line very clear when you wake up in the morning and move the leg off the bed ,,you want the muscle to be very cut and clean line with no water blurr,,for this you need to wait for 3 month mark only then! it start ,,you cant ask for it after 1 month friend unless very experienced bodybuild but even then it is always same process it is phases where body adopt and changes ,,it is only human body and it happenes in months to the point you want it to be not weeks,,

in weeks you improve drastically on gh and steroid but! in months!! 3-4 -5 -6 -12 month is when you see the marcos coming out fo the closet physiqe...thats when you see the true power of hormones after consistant usage,,

all those competitors are on for years,,theyu never off its like you drink water,,

always gh always,,to a point after 10 months they are walking always at 6% and just continue to develop and mature and grow ,,thats how it work friends,,

gh trenbolona testosterona equipona masterona insulin later on

that is it ,,thats just how it is

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 22, 2011, 06:34:30 PM
Hey getbig,

I like gh15 and he likes my physique too...everybody here know that... But come on guys (and gh15 too) all those dosages at the beginning of this thread are just RIDICULOUS...

Nobody use that much! And if somebody really use that much...then he's a stupid muthafucker and will die soon...for nothing...
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Stavios on February 22, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Hey getbig,

I like gh15 and he likes my physique too...everybody here know that... But come on guys (and gh15 too) all those dosages at the beginning of this thread are just RIDICULOUS...

Nobody use that much! And if somebody really use that much...then he's a stupid muthafucker and will die soon...for nothing...

I like you Steve but take those words back or GH15 will destroy you like liar priest  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Spike on February 22, 2011, 06:55:53 PM
Hey getbig,

I like gh15 and he likes my physique too...everybody here know that... But come on guys (and gh15 too) all those dosages at the beginning of this thread are just RIDICULOUS...

Nobody use that much! And if somebody really use that much...then he's a stupid muthafucker and will die soon...for nothing...

steve, bro, you really dont think the 202+ competitors arent runnin that much stuff

even at least at one point in time they didnt 'up the dosage' to experiment

you've been at it a long time and you have a gr8 physique but some dudes go balls deep and try to hit 300lb ripped when they shuold be 170lb

I believe you dont take alot of shit, you can tell you have a 'clean' healthy look, but some of those guys are borderline fckups addicted to 'gettin sswole'

and never underestimate what a person will do to get 'big' - you cant think that NO ONE ever take that much
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 06:56:50 PM
Hey getbig,

I like gh15 and he likes my physique too...everybody here know that... But come on guys (and gh15 too) all those dosages at the beginning of this thread are just RIDICULOUS...

Nobody use that much! And if somebody really use that much...then he's a stupid muthafucker and will die soon...for nothing...

The guys placing above you are probably on those exact doses, you know this that why you keep reminding us how you cant afford to compete more and make more improvements, get a better source, guys on this board can afford more than you ::)
You do have a great physique, just remember what gh15 said, time, just keep training and compete when you can, in a few years time you will probably be the top 202, Rome wasnt built in a day Steve ;)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 22, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
3500 mg test a week is already ridiculous but I know guys whos using that much (not in the 202)...stupid thing anyway...

But like 100 IU slin, 300 mcg T3 and 5x50 mg Anadrol...???? Come on guys! Just think about the T3...  ::)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 07:06:02 PM
3500 mg test a week is already ridiculous but I know guys whos using that much (not in the 202)...stupid thing anyway...

But like 100 IU slin, 300 mcg T3 and 5x50 mg Anadrol...???? Come on guys! Just think about the T3...  ::)

Yes the T3 is stupid, but some of these fools get so fat and bloated in the off season they think they have to run that much ::)
stay off the slin Steve and stick to the anabolics and gh ;)
i bet some of the ''bigger'' 202 guys are using that much test, they wont admit it though, only good to use that much test if you can run a lot of gh with it
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 22, 2011, 07:10:29 PM
Yes the T3 is stupid, but some of these fools get so fat and bloated in the off season they think they have to run that much ::)
stay off the slin Steve and stick to the anabolics and gh ;)
i bet some of the ''bigger'' 202 guys are using that much test, they wont admit it though, only good to use that much test if you can run a lot of gh with it
You can loose most of your sex drive easily coming off after only 600 mg test per week...I don't wanna see what could happen after 3500 mg per week... I like sex with my wife much better than bodybuilding.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
You can loose most of your sex drive easily coming off after only 600 mg test per week...I don't wanna see what could happen after 3500 mg per week... I like sex with my wife much better than bodybuilding.

Those guys either dont come off or use viagra when their sex drive crashes, anyway high doses of test is overrated.
At least you got your priorities straight Steve, keep the wife happy at all times ;)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 22, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
Those guys either dont come off or use viagra when their sex drive crashes, anyway high doses of test is overrated.
At least you got your priorities straight Steve, keep the wife happy at all times ;)
Once they will have to come off anyway...and then they will have a flaccid cock between two huge legs...nightmare bro...
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Stavios on February 22, 2011, 07:16:45 PM
Once they will have to come off anyway...and then they will have a flaccid cock between two huge legs...nightmare bro...

it's all in the head
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 22, 2011, 07:18:54 PM
Once they will have to come off anyway...and then they will have a flaccid cock between two huge legs...nightmare bro...

Yes, all that for a plastic trophy and a $3000 check
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Steve Namat on February 22, 2011, 07:20:23 PM
it's all in the head
Haha! Their girlfriends should telling that while looking deep in their eyes...oh brother I already see the situation...  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Spike on February 22, 2011, 07:22:13 PM
Once they will have to come off anyway...and then they will have a flaccid cock between two huge legs...nightmare bro...

hcg and cialis = not a problem to many a pro

they're are guys talkin that much test easily and they take other drugs to mask the side effects - anxiety, sleep problems, depression

so why wouldnt they take fertility and ED drugs as well??  like I said addicts to 'gettn swole' dont underestimate what people will pay/do/risk for that
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: buselmo on February 22, 2011, 09:46:22 PM
it's all in the head

yup...
1+ gram of gear for over 9 months... went off cold turkey... still fucked like a rabbit cuz i didn't even think about "recovery" or that bullshit...

did it before and was stressing myself out about how it'll take me atleast 2 months to recover and what not... and that's when problems happened.
Title: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: Fallsview on February 22, 2011, 10:02:38 PM
This conversation was taken on another GH15 non-approved board, The names have been changed to protect the guilty!

225barelyfor1: Yeah bro Uncle is GTG, package came to mom's and bottles really had labels and plastic tops on them, bro

Cleanest Bunghole:  Cool bro, how is it, bro?

225barelyfor1: Bro, smooth as silk bro, no pain, bro, I've been on for about five months and gained four pounds bro, but like all the
                    mods say, bro, "slow and steady", this stuff rocks bro.

Cleanest Bunghole:  Bro, gonna have to get some bro, you should make a progress thread bro.

225barelyfor1:  Bro, gonna start one, bro.  Rips are starting to show, bro.  Sides are crazy though bro, Been really short tempered and
                     I've been owning this positive bro named Fallsview, really putting him in his place bro, he's scared!

Cleanest Bunghole:  Bro, which gym?

225barelyfor1:  Bro, not at the gym, on a bodybuilding board named GetBig.  Bro, he thinks he's so positive but man my rage 
                     is uncontrollable bro, so I know this stuff is good.

Cleanest Bunghole:  Bro, I'll have to get on that board and join in on the ownings bro,  Show this guy who really is "large and in charge"!!


STOP THE NEGATIVITY!!!! JOIN THE BE/STAY/ACT POSITIVE CAMPAIGN ON GETBIG AND MAKE RON AND THE MODS HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: lovemonkey on February 22, 2011, 10:05:27 PM
Total "bro" count:


Error.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Disgusted on February 22, 2011, 10:37:48 PM
yup...
1+ gram of gear for over 9 months... went off cold turkey... still fucked like a rabbit cuz i didn't even think about "recovery" or that bullshit...

did it before and was stressing myself out about how it'll take me atleast 2 months to recover and what not... and that's when problems happened.

Yep, back in the day never heard of pct BS. Never missed a beat.  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
fellas see evan centerfini and asking gh15,,how can i be like him how can i be like him ,,i keep telling you the answer and many listen but some are just deaf,,IT IS CONSTANT HORMONIZATION FOR YEARS ! never off gh ,,always changing product ,,base of testosterona and then always changintrenblona equipona masterona list go on and on but alwyas on ,,you do not and can not build a physiqe to be bigger larger better more sculpted and reduce bodyfat same time if you dont consistantly stay on ,,if you get off what you achieve? you stop the growing process lol what exactly you achieve by going off? receptor regulation balonie?? BA FUCKIN LONIE,,receptor burn out is genetic burn out and it happen wether on many years of non stop or few cycles,,it is when your body say i dont like you hormone and wont grow no matter what its called genetic respond of an ant...there are some like that...see mr billy guns but even he could develop much better if never off and legit product,,thats just how it is

you can not stand on stage 210 anything if not hormonized to the gills! im talking here 210 not 250,,infact the fellas on stage 180! are hormonized on a good level and do not work with mega doses but hormonized consistantly ,,180lb!!

so it has to be understood,,there is layer over layer over layer inorder to get from point a to z ,,you do not just jump and get there,,when phillip heath say he just blow up and become professional NOT TRUE,,he was very deep ion lifting very very deeo in the drug scene,,,he was a twink before then went on juice then on gh then on insulin process of years with out ever going off,,off mean you reduce doses because you dont have a source or source fuck you up which doesnt happen much with the real bodybuild that know the cult because the top sources perform extra ordinary,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: kiwiol on February 23, 2011, 12:27:51 AM
Ballsview bringing the funny like a drought brings water
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: Army of One on February 23, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
Ballsview bringing the funny like a drought brings water

Alex needs this

(http://www.howtobefunny.net/images/howtobefunny-ebook.gif)
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: kiwiol on February 23, 2011, 12:33:37 AM
Alex needs this

(http://www.howtobefunny.net/images/howtobefunny-ebook.gif)

LOL, is that a real book?

Don't think Fallsview is Alex, BTW. I just like giving him shit for endlessly posting about that fat kvnt Dr.Fist ;D
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: Army of One on February 23, 2011, 12:38:55 AM
LOL, is that a real book?

Don't think Fallsview is Alex, BTW. I just like giving him shit for endlessly posting about that fat kvnt Dr.Fist ;D

I think being fisted would be more fun than reading another post about Dr Fist.
Title: Re: Public Service Anouncement from Fallsview
Post by: Fallsview on February 23, 2011, 12:47:52 AM
LOL, is that a real book?

Don't think Fallsview is Alex, BTW. I just like giving him shit for endlessly posting about that fat kvnt Dr.Fist ;D


kiwiol, you are Captain of "Team BE/ACT/STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for bringing it!!!!!
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: epic_alien on February 23, 2011, 11:13:43 AM
I really hope to God that you are not serious. This is by far the most idiotic post I have ever seen. Let me ask you a question. Why do this to yourself? It can not be the money, I make more than Ron or Jay, and I am only a doctor. I am not trying to be antagonistic, but compared to other atheletic sports, you are by far the least compensated. It can not be for girls. Given all the exogenous hormones you are taking, you must have testicles the size of an 8 year old child. That along with the SSRIs is probably making your sex drive nonexistent. Is this for intelectual stimulation? I seriously doubt it. Self preservation is a key aspect of Darwin's theory of evolution, seeing what you have written, makes me wonder why your lineage has survived as long as it has. Is the thrill of victory? Possibly, but I don't see the satisfaction of seeing who can respond best to what dosages. Ironically, if you enjoy taking random drugs and seeing how your body responds to them, I can get you contact with some interventional radiologists, that actually pay 3000 dollars an experiment for human subjects. In all seriousness, you will probably make more money being a human lab rat. Think about it, 30 experiements year, that 90,000 dollars a year. Much more than the 10,000 dollar first prize at most bodybuilding contests. Also, at least by being a test subject you will get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you are killing yourself, you are doing for the benefits of 'sick' paitents, and not the Weider family  ;D

Lastly, I hope you are not an adult. You must know that there are many impressionable young minds that read this forum. They look up to "idiot" pros like you, and encouraging this behavioral is completely uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself, and think about what you post next time.

What irks me the most is your use of Insulin. Do you want to get diabetes? Do you know what will happen to you? Are you that stupid of an individual? Are you familiar with peripheral vascular disease? I hope you don't like teh ability to walk, because that is the route you are going, I can definitely see you with such severe PVD, that your only option will be amputation.

you are truly pathetic,


bodybuilderpittmd

they do it for reasons you cannot understand.
to be the best at what you do, and have it documented with pictures and video, and have your place in history. state champion, national champ, or world champ. will always be yours, even in death. its history. thats what its about, for some.

dying and all the side effects to deal with, thats for later on. everyone dies asshole. may as well do something you like, and do it well. i dont tell you how much of a fag pill pusher you are being a doctor. well i guess i just did. you do your thing, and they do theirs.
it doesnt mater how they  reach greatness, the path doesnt mater, all that matters is who is standing on top. for that day, that moment.

everyone is going to die.   your in the business of prevention, selling snake oils, thats your thing. so be it. but no matter what, your patients will die. so will you, and so will mr olympia, or any other person who went for their goals, no matter what you did to your body in between,  all  will pay the price of death.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: pellius on February 23, 2011, 12:20:41 PM
they do it for reasons you cannot understand.
to be the best at what you do, and have it documented with pictures and video, and have your place in history. state champion, national champ, or world champ. will always be yours, even in death. its history. thats what its about, for some.

dying and all the side effects to deal with, thats for later on. everyone dies asshole. may as well do something you like, and do it well. i dont tell you how much of a fag pill pusher you are being a doctor. well i guess i just did. you do your thing, and they do theirs.
it doesnt mater how they  reach greatness, the path doesnt mater, all that matters is who is standing on top. for that day, that moment.

everyone is going to die.   your in the business of prevention, selling snake oils, thats your thing. so be it. but no matter what, your patients will die. so will you, and so will mr olympia, or any other person who went for their goals, no matter what you did to your body in between,  all  will pay the price of death.

Hah! Fake cock making some sense here.

All fake cock power!
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: epic_alien on February 23, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
yes, you always knew it was about the cock

cock power bro
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: DK II on February 23, 2011, 09:38:58 PM
Yeah, showed this to some in the know, and they are still laughing about it....

Ron, do you think that any top tier bodybuilder would be honest to you about his drug use?

I don't believe they would tell you what they take.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: dyslexic on February 23, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
who would actually do this  ::)


Olympia lineup comes to mind...
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: gh15 on February 23, 2011, 10:58:30 PM
Ron, do you think that any top tier bodybuilder would be honest to you about his drug use?

I don't believe they would tell you what they take.


Products \ Beta Agonists/Thyroid Stimulants \ ClenbuterolClenbuterol     Price: $60.00

Manufacturer: ChemOne Research

200mcg/ml 60ml


this is from online LEGAL SITE for products of the such for research! notice the dosing,, 200mcg per 1 ml do you know what it mean friends? it mean that gh15 words as usual are written in stone ,,like moses 10 comendments,,the disgusting fact is that you got the bunch over bunch of liars that try to pass bodybuild for NOT what it is,,

you really think anyone of us use couple mg of anything???? hell i took over 50iu insulin in one shot more than once,, now true you need to know your body you need not be a beginer fatzo or a fella with out foundation but friendss just look right and left...you got philip heath about to win o and he is right on a fella with ZERO FOUNDATION!

 
Products \ Beta Agonists/Thyroid Stimulants \ Liothyronine Sodium Liothyronine Sodium      Price: $60.00

Manufacturer: ChemOne Research

200mcg/ml 60 ml


this is 200 MCG PER 1 CC PER 1 ML PER 1 FULL INSULIN SYRNGE WHICH IS ABOLITLY NOTHING IN TERM OF MESURMENT ,,INFACT IF IT TASE GOOD SOME LIKE TO DRINK 1.5 CC AND SOMETIMES EVEN 2 CC AT ONCE! THAT IS 300-400MCG OF T3 AT ONE INTAKE! YOU GOT TO BE MAJOR HORMONIZER AND LARGE BEAST BUT! THERE ARE AROUND INFRONT OF YOU YOU JUST CHOOSE TO

CLOSE YOUR EYES!

enjoy fellas hope this bring some sense into the one who doubt that ANYTHING I SAY IS TRUTH,,

today you dose testosterona at 500mg per cc ,,,you dose eq at 500 mg per cc you if you got good cook he can make you 150 mg oper cc of trenbolona and also 200+ mg of primobolan per cc ,,if he is good cook he will also make it painless!

welcome to bodybuild 2000 friends,,or shall i say welcome to bodybuild  2010 becausse since 2000  much changed ,,now day it is mega dose per cc and yes some is junk balonie but some is what it says ,,just need good cook and good poweder ,,,that is all and trust me ALL IFBB PROFESIONAL HAVE GOOD COOKS AND GOOD POWDERS INADDITION TO HUMAN GRADE,,ALL TOP AMATUER HAVE SAME THING

gh15 approved





 



Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: UpTheDosage on February 23, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
they do it for reasons you cannot understand.
to be the best at what you do, and have it documented with pictures and video, and have your place in history. state champion, national champ, or world champ. will always be yours, even in death. its history. thats what its about, for some.

dying and all the side effects to deal with, thats for later on. everyone dies asshole. may as well do something you like, and do it well. i dont tell you how much of a fag pill pusher you are being a doctor. well i guess i just did. you do your thing, and they do theirs.
it doesnt mater how they  reach greatness, the path doesnt mater, all that matters is who is standing on top. for that day, that moment.

everyone is going to die.   your in the business of prevention, selling snake oils, thats your thing. so be it. but no matter what, your patients will die. so will you, and so will mr olympia, or any other person who went for their goals, no matter what you did to your body in between,  all  will pay the price of death.

I love this post epic alien. Fucking awesome. I also fucking love gh15. Anyone on this board that doubts what he says has no fucking clue what actually goes on in bodybuilding. I have yet to see anything that gh15 says that is not right. He talks in extremes sometimes, but everything he says is accurate.
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: epic_alien on February 24, 2011, 08:21:05 AM
I love this post epic alien. Fucking awesome. I also fucking love gh15. Anyone on this board that doubts what he says has no fucking clue what actually goes on in bodybuilding. I have yet to see anything that gh15 says that is not right. He talks in extremes sometimes, but everything he says is accurate.

its weird isnt it? i mean i think to myself all the time  your just another normal guy who  lifts and workout  and competes. and you see all the tough talk on here, and then after awhile you realize most of the guys here are on pro hormones, and are tiny nothings, and have never done shit.

i come to get big cause it makes me realize just how far and above i am from the normal gym rat.

gh15 posts are true. if you dont think so then get your ass to work and produce some results doing whatever the fuck you think works.

now the only thing i dont agree with is the gh issue, i dont think at state level you need to be on that to win. and i dont think you need more than a gram of test either.  you just have to have a good base and some common sense.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on February 24, 2011, 03:50:29 PM
off topic...

what´s de deal with saying equipona , trenbolona, testosterona, anapolona,?

its funny...
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 24, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
off topic...

what´s de deal with saying equipona , trenbolona, testosterona, anapolona,?

its funny...

That's how our God of Hormona says it and that's how you better say it if you know what's good for you, Ch3micalGneticsona.

And when you use the gh15 vernacular on other boards it lets them know you are one of his pupils and seek out to expose and destroy liars.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Master Blaster on February 24, 2011, 04:30:12 PM
off topic...

what´s de deal with saying equipona , trenbolona, testosterona, anapolona,?

its funny...

read bible

Theres a lot of variations popping up

Testaroni
Mastaroni
Equipony  ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on February 24, 2011, 04:58:52 PM
in spanish, the drug names finsh with ¨ona¨ thats why i found so funny...

where´s the bible bros.??where i can find the word of our GOD?



Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: pellius on February 24, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
in spanish, the drug names finsh with ¨ona¨ thats why i found so funny...

where´s the bible bros.??where i can find the word of our GOD?





http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=12769;sa=showPosts

Start from the last page and work your way back. Read all of it. Miss nothing. Read it at your leisure but always read at least one passage before you go to sleep like you do your nightly prayers.

Welcome to the cult. We are saving the youth of the world.
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2011, 06:25:19 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=12769;sa=showPosts

Start from the last page and work your way back. Read all of it. Miss nothing. Read it at your leisure but always read at least one passage before you go to sleep like you do your nightly prayers.

Welcome to the cult. We are saving the youth of the world.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on February 24, 2011, 07:55:37 PM
the bible!...i wannabe in the cult...i have to do something special...or read the bible only??

i feel illuminated....
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
the bible!...i wannabe in the cult...i have to do something special...or read the bible only??

i feel illuminated....

up your dosage!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on February 24, 2011, 08:06:39 PM
gh+trenbolona+testosterona, right? 8)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2011, 09:55:29 PM
gh+trenbolona+testosterona, right? 8)

...and that's just the beginning, you can find a nice starter's cycle on the first page of this thread.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: g101 on February 24, 2011, 10:28:52 PM
nooooo you guys have it all wrong

it's ... all together now

TESTOSTERONA
EQUIPONA
TRENBOLONE
MASTERONA
GHONA

ORAL OF CHOICE ON/OFF

 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
nooooo you guys have it all wrong

it's ... all together now

TESTOSTERONA
EQUIPONA
TRENBOLONE
MASTERONA
GHONA

ORAL OF CHOICE ON/OFF

 8) 8) 8) 8)

close.... but not quite!

The REAL pro BB cycle looks like this:

"take all steroids, hgh, insulin you can get your hands on, fight side effects with painkillers." ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: tip of week
Post by: Master Blaster on February 25, 2011, 01:42:20 PM
hahaha, the only 'hits' you would absorb would be via your gaping anus stud.

(http://www.biotechnologyonline.gov.au/images/contentpages/trisomy21.jpg)



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: no one on February 25, 2011, 02:12:09 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=12769;sa=showPosts

Start from the last page and work your way back. Read all of it. Miss nothing. Read it at your leisure but always read at least one passage before you go to sleep like you do your nightly prayers.

Welcome to the cult. We are saving the youth of the world.

lol
Title: Re: GH15's Tip of the Week - a typical pro routine
Post by: tbombz on February 25, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
3500 mg test a week is already ridiculous but I know guys whos using that much (not in the 202)...stupid thing anyway...

But like 100 IU slin, 300 mcg T3 and 5x50 mg Anadrol...???? Come on guys! Just think about the T3...   ::)
ive tried all three of those.

 :-X


gh15 is right about what people will take, and do take.


however i dont think its necessary at all.


good dose of steroids + progressive overload and protein = all you need. GH if you wanna be a compeititive pro.