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Title: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Ron on July 11, 2007, 11:17:40 PM


Milos Sarcev has been in the news lately, with various accusations regarding the IFBB and the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. The letters below were provided to present the other side of Milos' story. You'll find three letters from the Bahrain Bodybuilding Association, the Thailand Bodybuilding Association, and the Singapore Bodybuilding Federation.


http://www.getbig.com/news/2007/07/20070710milos.htm


Interesting...

Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Lift Studios on July 11, 2007, 11:19:04 PM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there anything you don't find interesting?

 ;D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: gordiano on July 11, 2007, 11:20:50 PM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there anything you don't find interesting?

 ;D

A gym?




J/K!  ;D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Ron on July 11, 2007, 11:21:26 PM
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Interesting indeed, but Ron is there anything you don't find interesting?


Now I find that comment interesting and fascinatiing.

Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: sgt. d on July 11, 2007, 11:21:47 PM
Poor Milos future doesnt look too good.  :'( Maybe he should send them a free supply of his "Shakes" :-\
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: sgt. d on July 11, 2007, 11:25:13 PM
All that time people on getbig act like Milos was sooooo innocent. Oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 11, 2007, 11:27:50 PM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there any food you don't find interesting?

 ;D


fixed!  :D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 11, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
All that time people on getbig act like Milos was sooooo innocent. Oh brother  ::)

This proves nothing.  It's the other side of a "he said/ she said".  ::)


Rumors about Chua and corruption have been around for years...  Milos didn't just pull this out of his ass  (unlike his drink pricing).
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 11, 2007, 11:36:28 PM
Milos has proof for all his accusations... "AND THEN SOME!"

He is just waiting for the proper moment to show the proof.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: garraeth on July 11, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
This proves nothing.  It's the other side of a "he said/ she said".  ::)


Rumors about Chua and corruption have been around for years...  Milos didn't just pull this out of his ass  (unlike his drink pricing).
So true.

It's like a big soap opera. I'm just waiting for the whore to come out and say she's preggo with the mystery man's baby.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Alex23 on July 11, 2007, 11:54:34 PM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there anything you don't find interesting?
 ;D

Ure backpack and pics  :-*
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: honest on July 12, 2007, 12:01:11 AM
yawn this shits gettin old, really who cares, Milos pissed people off - big deal, its not like he strapped a bomb to himself and blew anyone up, they should get the fuck over it, 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Alex23 on July 12, 2007, 12:10:57 AM
That's what I think too man.

Arabs/Asian have a way of overblowing everything and keeping grunts for eternity...
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Matt C on July 12, 2007, 02:11:27 AM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there any fitness girl's vagina you don't find interesting?

 ;D

No, now it's fixed.  ;D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Markoni on July 12, 2007, 02:12:46 AM

This proves nothing   





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Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: musclecenter on July 12, 2007, 02:46:29 AM
We need a real "head honcho" to solve the "issues" !!
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Platz on July 12, 2007, 03:07:16 AM
Bahran BB Federation representative is threatening Milos with GOD. Oh brother.. for trying to bring justice to daylight?  :-\ Why do they have to include God in everything?  ???
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 12, 2007, 04:09:14 AM
oh the drama...looks like the liars got caught and are now crying the loudest.  Weeder has a PhD?  since when and from where?  landrovers, hummers? what's next, a bentley?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: kyomu on July 12, 2007, 04:17:17 AM
Well. milos told me that he is moving with his plan....Lets wait and see...
But, in the game situation of now, he is losing. :-[
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: dr.chimps on July 12, 2007, 04:51:53 AM
LOL. If these are 'official' responses, then these organizations are run by high-school dropouts. The third one is the best written, most direct, while the first just confirms the Middle East as a region of knee-jerk, religious crazies. If there's one thing I dislike it's obfuscating shit in 'legalese' but, c'mon, find someone who can write a letter, huh?  ::)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: OneManGang on July 12, 2007, 05:18:49 AM
IFBB...HAHAHA!!! You can always debate if bodybuilding is a sport or not, but under such a rediculous regime it is DEFINATELY NOT A SPORT! Laughable is what it is, despite all the tragic souls ruining their health to please schmoe supremes in IFBB. An organization which upper management consists of 100% cronies, minions, stooges (and schmoes) is not the managment of any sporting organization. But all the IFBB BS is certainly funny and entertaining.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 12, 2007, 06:53:17 AM
I hope the IFBB doesn't ban him for life
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: kyomu on July 12, 2007, 07:20:25 AM
I hope the IFBB doesn't ban him for life
You hate Milos or you are saying this comment because of your believing that Milos is wrong,
Which?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Always Sore on July 12, 2007, 07:30:32 AM
2 things that strike me as funny. 1 is the attack on Milos about taking drugs..smacks of Irony. 2 is the use of god to threaten Milos, if your being professional what is the need for that comment.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: kyomu on July 12, 2007, 07:38:17 AM
Its super clear that Milos is right.
But the point is how he win this case.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Always Sore on July 12, 2007, 07:42:49 AM
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yeah that too. bringing up something that is looked at as " bad" to make the person look like they are at fault.

I call shenanigans on these federations.
I second the shenanigans vote... ;D

Really it reads almost like we did it but you can't prove it so if you can't prove it it did not happen..It's things like this that lead people to assume corruption in judging.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 12, 2007, 07:45:34 AM
You hate Milos or you are saying this comment because of your believing that Milos is wrong,
Which?


I have no reason to hate Milos. I'm talking about if The IFBB decided to take further actions against him
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: kyomu on July 12, 2007, 07:49:00 AM

I have no reason to hate Milos. I'm talking about if The IFBB decided to take further actions against him
I think it wont happen for sure. Milos is too famous in this industry.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 12, 2007, 07:57:48 AM



hahahahahaha . . . those letters reaffirmed my belief in american superiority. (well, at least until I read Chick's or Isaac's next post.)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: chester_bbb on July 12, 2007, 08:25:57 AM
You know the shows are fixed when the guy on the left beats the guy on the right.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 12, 2007, 08:53:16 AM
who gave who the hummer?   :)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: HalloweenMan on July 12, 2007, 09:04:18 AM
wow.  those letters read like they werer written by a confused 5th grader.  horrible grasp of the english language. 
and dont bother using the "they arent from the US" reasong because thats BS, any legit 'federation' would have had someone rewrite that so someone would actually read it without laughing at it.  nothing in there can be taken seriously.  in fact, id be more likely to waste $245242 on some 'milos drink' than i would be to take anything in those letters seriously.  nonsense. 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 12, 2007, 09:27:13 AM
After reading those (letters) it would seem that Milos was right. I love the way one of the letters mentions they spoke to their American lawyers and they will be contacting Milos soon.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 12, 2007, 09:32:47 AM
After reading those (letters) it would seem that Milos was right. I love the way one of the letters mentions they spoke to their American lawyers and they will be contacting Milos soon.
are they authentic documents?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 12, 2007, 09:42:25 AM
are they authentic documents?
I am assuming since Ron started the thread they better be, or Milos might be contacting his own lawyers LOL
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: garraeth on July 12, 2007, 10:56:22 AM
LOL. If these are 'official' responses, then these organizations are run by high-school dropouts. The third one is the best written, most direct, while the first just confirms the Middle East as a region of knee-jerk, religious crazies. If there's one thing I dislike it's obfuscating shit in 'legalese' but, c'mon, find someone who can write a letter, huh?  ::)
heh, yeah that first one is especially entertaining. Sounds like a meltdown straight from GetBig. lol
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 12, 2007, 10:59:35 AM
heh, yeah that first one is especially entertaining. Sounds like a meltdown straight from GetBig. lol

what's the "mark of cain"?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: HalloweenMan on July 12, 2007, 01:40:27 PM
bah!  threatening to 'contact lawyers' is nonsense.  if they were going to do that, they would actually do it instead of threatening about it.  lies.  all lies.  and poorly written, laughable, lies. 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: sgt. d on July 12, 2007, 01:52:00 PM
Lets just hope they dont find anybody burning in a car :-\
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: onlyme on July 12, 2007, 03:33:48 PM
You got a towel head who works for the IFBB saying Milos is lying.  I think I will go with Milos on this one. 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Undercover Supp Guy on July 12, 2007, 04:18:31 PM
Those have got to be the most unproffesional examples of so-called professional correspondence and/or legal/lawyer letters I have ever seen.. horrendous.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 12, 2007, 04:55:04 PM
Those have got to be the most unproffesional examples of so-called professional correspondence and/or legal/lawyer letters I have ever seen.. horrendous.
the one with religious content is the most suspicious.  lol
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 12, 2007, 04:59:30 PM
If the letter from the Bahrain Federation is exemplary of the intelligence level and worldview in the Middle East, there's no question those people just aren't quite equipped for the 21st century.  Now I understand why we have to station troops there. :-\
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: biceps on July 12, 2007, 05:22:22 PM
Milos is 100% right, and  Mr.God is great is 100% wrong
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: phyxsius on July 12, 2007, 06:49:57 PM
These Asians are producing mini bodybuilders that has no chance in hell to compete against the American pros
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: OneManGang on July 13, 2007, 02:18:27 AM
These Asians are producing mini bodybuilders that has no chance in hell to compete against the American pros

They look a lot "worse" than american pros like Palumbo and Derek Anthony ;D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: musclecenter on July 13, 2007, 02:31:59 AM
http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?topic=8690.new;boardseen#new
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Hedgehog on July 13, 2007, 03:11:47 AM
Sarcev has Teh Burden of Proof, definitely.

But these letters did jack shit in providing evidence that Sarcev is a con.

The only one who came even close to doing so, was the Thai Guy.

The two other letters were just ridiculous.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Lee_a_priest on July 13, 2007, 07:06:42 AM
"GOD IS GREAT" YOU WILL BE PUNISHED...ISNT THAT THE SAME SHIT THE TERRORIST YELL BEFORE KILLING PEOPLE...........FUCK EM
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Markoni on July 13, 2007, 07:38:36 AM
"GOD IS GREAT" YOU WILL BE PUNISHED...ISNT THAT THE SAME SHIT THE TERRORIST YELL BEFORE KILLING PEOPLE...........FUCK EM

Bin Laden letters to Milos 

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Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: biceps on July 13, 2007, 07:47:31 AM
Best Bahrian TV show "Are you smarter then a Camel", and the best Bharian rep "Who lat the Camels out".
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: kyomu on July 13, 2007, 08:26:41 AM
Bin Laden letters to Milos 

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Hey. Bin Ladin is a great pal of CIA.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: musclecenter on July 13, 2007, 08:32:48 AM
The" family "business is..........
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on July 13, 2007, 10:24:21 AM
Sarcev has Teh Burden of Proof, definitely.

But these letters did jack shit in providing evidence that Sarcev is a con.

The only one who came even close to doing so, was the Thai Guy.

The two other letters were just ridiculous.

-Hedge

The president from Thailand response should be spot on! Unfortunately it is not. The guy is from England.  He and is money moved to Thailand for the young boys and bodybuiilding. Sure he has been at it a long time but Wieder has too right?  I guess Doug is a nice guy but his motives are slanted towards his own agenda.....yup young men. 

Ok run me up for a law suit too.  Of course somebody could instead put up a picture of his wife and children instead and prove me wrong....good luck.

Just trying to KEEP IT REAL

Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: emn1964 on July 13, 2007, 12:33:46 PM
How can Milos be right about the amount of the bribes?  There just isnt enough money in the "sport" to make it worth while for someone to pay that much money to an official, not even considering the Range Rover.  We aren't talking about the Super Bowl or World Series here.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Vince B on July 15, 2007, 11:52:17 PM
I suppose the logical thing for the IFBB is to do a full investigation of Getbig and Ron the owner. Too much anti-IFBB posts here on Getbig.

I still laugh at how Milos got conned. He was assured there was a full investigation and it was only about him! Yep, that is the way the IFBB has always done business. What surprises me is that Milos didn't know this.  He got a suspension for his oversight. Clearly, even Bob didn't tell him what was going on and that shows how good the athletes rep is.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 16, 2007, 12:46:29 AM
How can Milos be right about the amount of the bribes?  There just isnt enough money in the "sport" to make it worth while for someone to pay that much money to an official, not even considering the Range Rover.  We aren't talking about the Super Bowl or World Series here.
Well, look at the countries they come from. They are government sponsored athletes.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 16, 2007, 12:50:54 AM
He was assured there was a full investigation and it was only about him! Yep, that is the way the IFBB has always done business.
How do you suppose the IFBB would investigate the matter? Maybe if Milos gave them some leads to go on but I doubt it. Please explain how the IFBB would investigate if a bribe was given? Call the parties up and ask them?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: gordiano on July 16, 2007, 01:14:49 AM
Those have got to be the most unproffesional examples of so-called professional correspondence and/or legal/lawyer letters I have ever seen.. horrendous.

They look like they were written by "Daddywaddy"..... ;D
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Kamikaze Paul on July 16, 2007, 01:21:42 AM
It is the same way Paul asked other athletes to send him apology letters for speaking the truth.  Most recently Woung.

The Bahrian Letter looks like it was written by a 10 year old and the Thai a pissed off guy who got owned by Milos.  I think Federation presidents should be more professional in writing letter or get a damn secretary to do it for them.
 

Paul L.
Title: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: Stark on July 16, 2007, 02:05:38 AM
http://www.getbig.com/news/2007/07/20070710milos.htm

GOD IS GREAT and you will be punished for all your wrong doings...

Holy Shit Milos run Milos run and don't look back.
Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 16, 2007, 02:20:36 AM
ALLLLLAAHHHH AKBAARR HAHAHAH

Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: LatsMcGee on July 16, 2007, 02:26:36 AM
Jihad on Kolesseaum?
Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: Tombo on July 16, 2007, 02:37:35 AM
hahaha they wont get him for defamation and slander.. not for shit

empty threat
Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list
Post by: kreator on July 16, 2007, 04:48:55 AM
milos, you should consider installing a couple of speed bumps in the parking lot to buy the people in the gym some time to get the hell outta there before a car bomb full of angry, turban wearing hicks with a hard-on, who can't wait to take on those 70 butt naked virgins promised to them, blows the whole place up   
Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: honest on July 16, 2007, 05:12:58 AM
Milos is Serbian remeber Kosovo, the serbs know how to deal with Muslims, if it wasnt for Nato muslims in Yugoslavia would be harder to find than a polar bear in LA.
 ;D
Title: Re: MILOS... I would shit myself, you are probably on a Muslim most wanted list now
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on July 16, 2007, 10:17:18 AM
http://www.getbig.com/news/2007/07/20070710milos.htm

GOD IS GREAT and you will be punished for all your wrong doings...

Holy Shit Milos run Milos run and don't look back.

You would probably shit if you see your own shadow...so stay away from dark big boy...

I on another hand - don't look back - only foreward.

God is great...and I will take his "punishment" anyday...
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on July 16, 2007, 10:21:13 AM
According to the constitution the athlete who fails the doping test should be suspended for 2 year the first time and life time suspension if he fails the second time.  And if a national team failed the test 3 times they will be suspended for a year (the whole team)
 
Mohammed Nafaa (Palestine) failed the doing test in 2003 World champion ship – India and was allowed to do the Qatar Classic in 2004 and 2005 – during the 2 years of his suspension – which is held under the supervision of ABBF.  Paul Chau was head of the judging committee and a lot of other ABBF judges were there too.
 
Reason: Nafaa is in the Abu Dhabi Police so they paid some amount to the Qatar federationa dn they paid off paul chua
 
Ali Tabrizi and Kamal Abdulsalam (Qatar) both failed the doping test in 2003 World champion ship – India but still did the 2004 & 2005 Asian Championship and Qatar Classic 2004 & 2005 during there supposedly 2 year suspension.
 
Bahrain National team failed the drug test 7 times (at least this is what I remember) sami Al-haddad failed it 3 times, Hussain Jassim once, Tariq Al-farasani once and Nooh Hassan Twice.
Last time Nooh failed the test was in the Asian Championship in 2005 then he did the world championship in Czech in about a year.
 
These are the official statements and the Bahrain team was never suspended.  These are other athletes who failed the test but were never announced.
 
In 2004 the Iranian team owed the ABBF some money; or at least that is what paul chua said then they paid some of it one day before the Asian championship so they were allowed to compete and then the same problem in 2005 and 2006.  Their influence was an Iranian Official called Amir Bayyat.  A Weider supplement reseller.  Who sells a lot in Iran through Paul Chua.  This yea he was kicked out of the Iranian federation so he told paul chua to ban them from competing and they are facing a suspension or a fine.
 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on July 16, 2007, 10:22:14 AM
He always receives cash money so you will never find any receipt or money transaction.  As for fixing the shows; at the weigh in everything is finalized.  He usually assigns each athlete at whatever placing he desires or previously agreed with other parties and then tells the judges who are close to him and they are usually the same at all the Asian shows.
 
Mohammed Abdulrahim (Bahrain)
Yonis Salman (Bahrain)
Jamal Aradi (Bahrain)
Nooh Al-Mejally (Qatar)
Hussien Zafra (UAE)
Amir Bayyat (Iran)
Qasim YAzbak (Syria)
 
The president of the ABBF at the moment is Brig. General Abdulla Khalaf Al-Kaabi, the next president will be a guy from UAE (don’t recall his name but will get it for you) so with all the money they pumped in the ABBF they got a gold medal in the Asian games as you know and the president’s position.
 
I am also sending you some photos from 2002 - BUSAN - SOUTH KOREA for the 90KG category where it shows clearly that Tarek Alfarasani didn’t deserve 1st place but got the gold medal anyway.  Second place was awarded to Mohammed Ismael (Singapore) who didn’t deserve it either and third was Ahmed Al-Sa’afeen (Qatar at that time originally from Syria) who was solid 1st but I guess they didn’t pay for his medal.  Ahmed Al-Sa’afeen deserved 1st place at the Asain Games in Doha as well in the over 90KG but went to Tariq Again.  Bahrain’s General organization of youth and Sports (GOYS) donated – in other words bribed- the ABBF through Bahrain weight lifting and Bodybuilding federation (BWBBF) an amount of US$20,000 to reinstate Sami Al-Haddad. Then the money went through Mohammed Abdulrahim (BWBBF president) to the ABBF and said that they refused.  Of course he didn’t want Sami back in but the word is out that he used that money to buy Tariq’s Medal for the Asain Games.
 
Sayed Faisal (Bahrain) who got the silver medal for the under 75KG failed the doping test and his test result is in the Bahrain Olympic committee but was never officially announced officially. 
 
Nasser Mirza (UAE) did the NABBA world last year in June their federation suspended him for only a year. Then he guest posed at BBing show under the Qatar federation with Darrem Charles (during his suspension period)
 
None of the Bahraini team made weight at the Asain Games in Doha.  Even in 2004 Mohamed Sabah who won the 80KG gold medal was over 80KG by far. 
 
Munther Alfarasani (Tarek’s Brother) Hill judge this years world championship; although he never judge any show except the last show that was held in Bahrain.
 
A show was held by Bahrain federation in April and one of the judges was from Saudi Arabia (Mohammed Al-Zahrani) who was suspended from his local federation (Saudi federation)
 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 16, 2007, 10:25:59 AM
According to the constitution the athlete who fails the doping test should be suspended for 2 year the first time and life time suspension if he fails the second time.  And if a national team failed the test 3 times they will be suspended for a year (the whole team)
 
Mohammed Nafaa (Palestine) failed the doing test in 2003 World champion ship – India and was allowed to do the Qatar Classic in 2004 and 2005 – during the 2 years of his suspension – which is held under the supervision of ABBF.  Paul Chau was head of the judging committee and a lot of other ABBF judges were there too.
 
Reason: Nafaa is in the Abu Dhabi Police so they paid some amount to the Qatar federationa dn they paid off paul chua
 
Ali Tabrizi and Kamal Abdulsalam (Qatar) both failed the doping test in 2003 World champion ship – India but still did the 2004 & 2005 Asian Championship and Qatar Classic 2004 & 2005 during there supposedly 2 year suspension.
 
Bahrain National team failed the drug test 7 times (at least this is what I remember) sami Al-haddad failed it 3 times, Hussain Jassim once, Tariq Al-farasani once and Nooh Hassan Twice.
Last time Nooh failed the test was in the Asian Championship in 2005 then he did the world championship in Czech in about a year.
 
These are the official statements and the Bahrain team was never suspended.  These are other athletes who failed the test but were never announced.
 
In 2004 the Iranian team owed the ABBF some money; or at least that is what paul chua said then they paid some of it one day before the Asian championship so they were allowed to compete and then the same problem in 2005 and 2006.  Their influence was an Iranian Official called Amir Bayyat.  A Weider supplement reseller.  Who sells a lot in Iran through Paul Chua.  This yea he was kicked out of the Iranian federation so he told paul chua to ban them from competing and they are facing a suspension or a fine.
 

  hmmm, this paul chua dude into alot of dealing...
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: hifrommike on July 16, 2007, 10:47:47 AM
Sounds like if these guys walk in front of a bank, the alarm will go off.  Horrible corruption at the highest levels of the IFBB.  Very, very sad.   :(
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 16, 2007, 11:00:31 AM
Sounds like if these guys walk in front of a bank, the alarm will go off.  Horrible corruption at the highest levels of the IFBB.  Very, very sad.   :(
very corrupt potential
Title: Re: IFBB backed up their boy Paul Chua...
Post by: SirTraps on July 16, 2007, 05:58:38 PM
Where is Chick to spin err explain this blatant corruption ?   ::)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 20, 2007, 10:28:02 AM


I am just re-posting something found on this very board...

As last time Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla, president of Bahrain Bodybuilding Federation sent me official letter + started the thread here on GETBIG stating that I am "misbehaving and acting like uneducated person" I would point out to him and others...THIS IS NOT MY POST (just like the last time...).
I am only re-posting interesting comments of others...


As always - TRUTH FINDS THE WAY TO COME OUT...and sooner or later TRUTH WILL BE TOLD...

My suspension is almost over...so I will wait just a little bit longer...







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I got the following from the Bahrain Bodybuilding federation president (Mohammed Abdulla):
 
Kamal Salam form Qatar (85KG) was tested positive for “trenbolone” in the Asian Championship.  This is the second time he is testing positive –first time being world championship in 2003- an official from Qatar (Ibrahim Mohamed Kafod) was sent to Paul Chua to clear the matter and discuss how much they have to pay to cover the tests and let Kamal do the world championship after 10 days in Korea.
 
The amount is not finalized yet but new from Bahrain is that they will pay a sum of US$100000 to the Asian federation just to let it slip.  The Bahraini federation is not happy with the decision cause having Kamal in the lineup will weaken their chances of scoring.

Title: Re: IFBB backed up their boy Paul Chua...
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 20, 2007, 10:41:25 AM
Where is Chick to spin err explain this blatant corruption ?   ::)


I don't think Chick gives a shit one way or the other what happens with IFBB amateurs in Asia. 


His focus is on defending corruption in the Professional league.  ;D
Title: Re: IFBB backed up their boy Paul Chua...
Post by: biceps on October 20, 2007, 12:00:06 PM

I don't think Chick gives a shit one way or the other what happens with IFBB amateurs in Asia. 


His focus is on defending corruption in the Professional league.  ;D

Chick is a IFBB Pro athlete rep, hi not the vice or the president of the IFBB. You guys need to ask Rafael Santoja opinion on this subject.
Title: Re: IFBB backed up their boy Paul Chua...
Post by: G o a t b o y on October 20, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Chick is a IFBB Pro athlete rep, hi not the vice or the president of the IFBB. You guys need to ask Rafael Santoja opinion on this subject.


That was kinda my point.  :-\
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on October 20, 2007, 03:01:26 PM
FROM:

http://www.arrestpaulchua.com/ourmission.php    




Our Mission   
    
For decades now, Paul Chua has systematically used the power of his position as Secretary General of the Asian Bodybuilding Federation (ABBF) and Vice President of the International of Bodybuilders (IFBB) to practice official corruption by selling titles and first position placements to the highest bidder. At the last Asian Games in Doha, informed sources alleged that each gold medal was sold to the highest bidder by Paul Chua for US$75,000.00

To cover up his tracks he has also through the years thrown the book at athletes and officials by suspending them or threatening them with suspension when faced with exposure.  Entire national committees have been decimated or removed and replaced with compliant officials - lackeys who would do his bidding to enable him to carry out his grand scheme of selling bodybuilding titles, a most profitable venture for him.  Compliant judges are handpicked to do his bidding to ensure that the winner is the preordained one – the one with the payola, who has greased Mr. Paul Chua’s palm.

Such a climate of fear has grown up in Asian bodybuilding that no athlete or official dares to cross his path especially with his record of removing and suspending or threatening with removal or suspension, athletes/officials and even affiliates in virtually every territory in which the ABBF has an affiliate.

However, in this day and age, it is impossible for a crook like Paul Chua to evade exposure and arrest on corruption charges forever.  It is with this in mind that the conveners of this site have set up this site to allow anyone who has any knowledge of Paul Chua’s misdeeds or criminal acts to post their complaint(s) either anonymously or with full or partial identity.  Please note that to enable us to build a case and to file a criminal complaints report with the FBI or the Singapore Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau, only complaints duly signed with full identity and contact details such as addresses and telephone numbers disclosed and verified will be useful.

You can rest assured that the confidentiality of your complaint will be guaranteed by this site!
 
        
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: muscularny on October 20, 2007, 03:13:52 PM
props to milos for saying it like it is

this industry is full of people who say shit just to kiss up to someone, its a breath of fresh air when people just say it like it is
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Frank D. Law on October 20, 2007, 07:30:57 PM
Milos does say it like it is!  Refreshing!  Unfortunately, this admirable trait does land him in hot water from time to time - especially, the Paul Chua affair and his allegations of official corruption in the Asian Games by Paul Chua, Secretary General of the Asian Bodybuilding Federation and VP of the IFBB.  His reward for his efforts to clean up the sport?  A 1 year supension from the IFBB Pro League led by the unsconcionable Jim Manion.  Again unfortunately, every single one of Milos' allegations against Paul Chua is true!  Also unfortunately (for Paul Chua) this action against Milos was a mistake - a BIG MISTAKE for it finally aroused a sizeable community in Asian Bodybuilding and gave us the courage to take this action!

For many decades now, Asian bodybuilders and Officials (apart from Paul Chua's lackeys and sycophants) have cowered in the face of the propensity of this man to SUSPEND anyone who even remotely resembles a threat to exposing his corrupt ways. 

What are the ways.  He places compliant judges willing to do his bidding in the Asian Games and the SEA Games and then proceeds to sell the gold medal to the highest bidder, often for staggering sums reaching US$75,000.  Why is he able to do this?  Because, unlike the USA, Asian Governments lavish massive cash rewards (sometimes, even houses and prime real estate) for gold medals in these Games.  This explains the anomaly and unique phenomena of many Asian bodybuilding champions winning multiple Mr. Universe titles and then the very next week, lose to some nobody at the SEA Games!  The reason is simple - Paul Chua has no control over the judging at the Mr. U's and Asian Governments do not care two hoots about that title, so Paul leaves these non-Games titles basically alone, as they do not attract the larghese of Asian Governments! 

But wait, justice is finally on the way!  A website called ArrestPaulChua.com has finally gone LIVE to collect and collate evidence to put Paul Chua where crooks like him belong - in the slammer!

Paul Chua has often confided privately that his secret ambition is to become IFBB President.  This unscrupulous man has advanced so far in the IFBB because of his ability to throw the book at anyone who dares to utter a squeak or threaten to expose his misdeeds, backed as always by the IFBB machinery!  Perhaps, Rafael Santonja should step aside to let Paul attain his aspirations - so that we can have the first sitting IFBB President, sitting in jail!

In any event, spread the word.  The site can be accessed by clicking on www.arrestpaulchua.com in the url or by Googling "Arrest Paul Chua" or even simply, "Paul Chua".  The end is nigh for this IFBB Asian crook of crooks!  We are interested in solid evidence of wrong doing by Paul, so that we can report him to the Singapore Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (where he resides and carries out his crimes)  You can bet that every bodybuilding scribe, magazine and website, plus the mainstream media all over Asia and the world, plus every Bodybuilding Organization and Committee all over Asia and the world will be alerted to the existence of this website of conscience!

Frank D. Law
Chairman
Arrest Paul Chua Executive Committee 
 
 
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Frank D. Law on October 20, 2007, 08:23:53 PM
Just got word that there are pictures floating around of Paul Chua cavorting with Myanmar Generals (members of that murderous regime that just shot pro-democracy protestors/citizens) enjoying dinner with them and presenting them with momentos (IFBB Certificates of Merit?)

It does give you a sense of the values that this man has!  At least Ben Weider was principled enough to refuse to attend this contest in Burma. 

Anyone with pictures of Paul Chua consorting with these murderers, please post on the Arrest Paul Chua website.

Further, I've been informed that Paul Chua is a "Love Rat" keeping a mistress in Kuala Lumpur.  Apparently, he introduces this ex-lady bodybuilder from Hong Kong called "Christina" whom he meets regularly at his love nest in a condo in Kuala Lumpur, conveniently as his wife at official IFBB functions when his wife is not around!  Any one with pictures of Paul Chua with this girl, please post on www.arrestpaulchua.com

What's the IFBB to say of their second most senior official taking advantage of some poor, young and naive figure contestant, participating in a contest that he sanctions?  Aren't there any Codes of Conduct in force?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on September 05, 2009, 03:49:48 PM
 8) ::)
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on September 28, 2009, 08:08:59 PM

Milos Sarcev has been in the news lately, with various accusations regarding the IFBB and the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. The letters below were provided to present the other side of Milos' story. You'll find three letters from the Bahrain Bodybuilding Association, the Thailand Bodybuilding Association, and the Singapore Bodybuilding Federation.


http://www.getbig.com/news/2007/07/20070710milos.htm


Interesting...




Ron, you started this thread...Nothing to add as of late?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2009, 09:29:08 PM

Ron, you started this thread...Nothing to add as of late?

Bored, Milos?
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Matt C on September 29, 2009, 12:47:22 AM
Interesting indeed, but Ron is there anything you don't find interesting?

 ;D

A thread about Milos, some bodybuilding federations and more.
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 29, 2009, 01:45:27 AM
I'm with Milos on this one
Title: Re: Letters to Milos from Bahrain, Thailand and Singapore BB Federation
Post by: asianmyth on September 29, 2009, 02:12:17 AM
Just got word that there are pictures floating around of Paul Chua cavorting with Myanmar Generals (members of that murderous regime that just shot pro-democracy protestors/citizens) enjoying dinner with them and presenting them with momentos (IFBB Certificates of Merit?)

It does give you a sense of the values that this man has!  At least Ben Weider was principled enough to refuse to attend this contest in Burma. 

Anyone with pictures of Paul Chua consorting with these murderers, please post on the Arrest Paul Chua website.

Further, I've been informed that Paul Chua is a "Love Rat" keeping a mistress in Kuala Lumpur.  Apparently, he introduces this ex-lady bodybuilder from Hong Kong called "Christina" whom he meets regularly at his love nest in a condo in Kuala Lumpur, conveniently as his wife at official IFBB functions when his wife is not around!  Any one with pictures of Paul Chua with this girl, please post on www.arrestpaulchua.com

What's the IFBB to say of their second most senior official taking advantage of some poor, young and naive figure contestant, participating in a contest that he sanctions?  Aren't there any Codes of Conduct in force?

chua screwing christina is a biggest fucking lie i have ever heard.guy is alcoholic got debates,asthma and heart problems.how possibly he can fuck her.look at him in person do u really think he is capable of having intercourse.