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Title: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:35:39 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2007, 03:37:40 AM
So you have treadmills with a laptop? cool show me were you train i want to see that.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:39:48 AM
So you have treadmills with a laptop? cool show me were you train i want to see that.

dont playahate, congratulate just because you dont have the balls to make it to the gym even ONCE a day! you're far too busy posting youtube links


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 22, 2007, 03:42:04 AM
one of your days must have 50 hours.  ::) ::)

dating two girls, working uot 9 times a week, posting on getbig 18 hours straight...

 ;) ;D ;D

No seriously, what do you do so you can workout twice a day?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2007, 03:43:37 AM
dont playahate, congratulate just because you dont have the balls to make it to the gym even ONCE a day! you're far too busy posting youtube links


bro... everybody who is posting here on a regular basis knows that you cannot possibly workout and have 16k posts at the same time, you are on all the time.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 03:43:44 AM
All you dumb queers, need to shut the fuck up, and listen to this mad cat blutos RAP,

This slick, talks the talk, but can walk the walk, he BACKS SHIT UP,

this guy is a super big, super strong, moderator, he has this bitch on lock

word to your mothers.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2007, 03:44:21 AM
All you dumb queers, need to shut the fuck up, and listen to this mad cat blutos RAP,

This slick, talks the talk, but can walk the walk, he BACKS SHIT UP,

this guy is a super big, super strong, moderator, he has this bitch on lock

word to your mothers.

what you're a negro now dp?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:47:18 AM
one of your days must have 50 hours.  ::) ::)

dating two girls, working uot 9 times a week, posting on getbig 18 hours straight...

 ;) ;D ;D

No seriously, what do you do so you can workout twice a day?

the actual time spent in the gym isnt more than it used to be when i worked out once a day - 45 minutes each time 1,5 hours total
it's all about the intensity baby


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:48:30 AM

bro... everybody who is posting here on a regular basis knows that you cannot possibly workout and have 16k posts at the same time, you are on all the time.

for me the impossible is the possible i accept no limitations


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
what you're a negro now dp?

I'm telling it like it is bro, Bluto is a survivor, he's pwned more people on here, than anyone else,

hes clocked up 16 k posts, and he can only get better,

I actually think, he is related to those robots, in the robot rock video.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2007, 03:49:28 AM
I'm telling it like it is bro, Bluto is a survivor, he's pwned more people on here, than anyone else,

hes clocked up 16 k posts, and he can only get better,

I actually think, he is related to those robots, in the robot rock video.

yep deffiantly negro talk ::)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:50:38 AM
All you dumb queers, need to shut the fuck up, and listen to this mad cat blutos RAP,

This slick, talks the talk, but can walk the walk, he BACKS SHIT UP,

this guy is a super big, super strong, moderator, he has this bitch on lock

word to your mothers.

i was thinking if regular people can hit the gym once a day, why wouldnt it be possible for me to hit the gym twice a day? of course it would be, and it is
when you're the Super you cannot do what others do, you need to do more, you need to do things differently, you need to set a different standard for yourself.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 03:52:31 AM
yep deffiantly negro talk ::)

Listen bro, check it, I am not defying anyone here, blutos a bit rock and mutherfucking roll, but thats the way this cat rolls ya know.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 03:52:31 AM
I'm telling it like it is bro, Bluto is a survivor, he's pwned more people on here, than anyone else,

hes clocked up 16 k posts, and he can only get better,

I actually think, he is related to those robots, in the robot rock video.

i got that blasting in my headphones everytime i hit the gym, that's twice a day and once every weekend for your info, and it gets me in the zone

i'm a machine

ROCK
ROBOT ROCK

ROCK
ROBOT ROCK


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 03:54:50 AM
i was thinking if regular people can hit the gym once a day, why wouldnt it be possible for me to hit the gym twice a day? of course it would be, and it is
when you're the Super you cannot do what others do, you need to do more, you need to do things differently, you need to set a different standard for yourself.

They need to open their minds man, not limit themselves, they need to be able to see that full potential that they can reach,

I would actually call you an extreme bodybuilder, as you can reach mind muscle connections, most people can't even begin to fathom.



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 03:57:26 AM
i got that blasting in my headphones everytime i hit the gym, that's twice a day and once every weekend for your info, and it gets me in the zone

i'm a machine

ROCK
ROBOT ROCK

ROCK
ROBOT ROCK


You fucking know it, Daft Punk,

bring that robot funk to the masses, they were created in the lab by kraftwerk themselves,

Bodybuilding is more than just lifting cold hard iron, there is more that is needed to enables you to, reach the ideal you want,

I'm not even talking grecan ideals here, this is MORE, its about aa way of life man.



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 04:00:16 AM
They need to open their minds man, not limit themselves, they need to be able to see that full potential that they can reach,

I would actually call you an extreme bodybuilder, as you can reach mind muscle connections, most people can't even begin to fathom.



Their minds are closed. Their thinking is limited. Their passion isn't there. They lack confidence in themselves.

An extreme bodybuilder? Yes.

Let's look at the word Extreme

The word extreme is a word that is associated with a lot of negativity. But really what does the word extreme mean?

"of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average"

"utmost or exceedingly great in degree"

"exceeding the bounds of moderation"

"going to the utmost or very great lengths in action, habit, opinion"

"the utmost or highest degree"

This to me isnt negative, it's quite the opposite.

I am proud of being an Extreme bodybuilder. Because being extreme, you get extreme results - out of the ordinary, not average.



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 04:09:31 AM
Their minds are closed. Their thinking is limited. Their passion isn't there. They lack confidence in themselves.

An extreme bodybuilder? Yes.

Let's look at the word Extreme

The word extreme is a word that is associated with a lot of negativity. But really what does the word extreme mean?

"of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average"

"utmost or exceedingly great in degree"

"exceeding the bounds of moderation"

"going to the utmost or very great lengths in action, habit, opinion"

"the utmost or highest degree"

This to me isnt negative, it's quite the opposite.

I am proud of being an Extreme bodybuilder. Because being extreme, you get extreme results - out of the ordinary, not average.




Thats what its essentially all about, bodybuilding is all about being EXTREME, its not a mortal mans sport, its about pushing your body and soul to the limit, its a different level of being and existence,

All you've got is this moment man, the 21st century was yesterday, you can care all you want, but the shits REAL.

All the bros on here need to realise and recognise what bodybuilding really is, its deep, and you have to always want more, go that extra mile, that extra set, that extra rep.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 04:18:59 AM

Thats what its essentially all about, bodybuilding is all about being EXTREME, its not a mortal mans sport, its about pushing your body and soul to the limit, its a different level of being and existence,

All you've got is this moment man, the 21st century was yesterday, you can care all you want, but the shits REAL.

All the bros on here need to realise and recognise what bodybuilding really is, its deep, and you have to always want more, go that extra mile, that extra set, that extra rep.

Mortals failing to grasp the essentials of bodybuilding, to go where no man has gone before.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 04:21:56 AM
Mortals failing to grasp the essentials of bodybuilding, to go where no man has gone before.

Are they willing to learn?

Do they really want to know? Could they handle it?

The knowledge is there, they just need to look deep inside themselves to see if they have what it takes,

Do they want it bad enough?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 04:27:39 AM
Are they willing to learn?

Do they really want to know? Could they handle it?

The knowledge is there, they just need to look deep inside themselves to see if they have what it takes,

Do they want it bad enough?

That's what I'm asking and that is why I made this thread - to see if others are doing what I call "machine training" twice a day in-human hardcore training.

Gotta go out for a while... need to FEED THE MACHINE bbl


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: davidpaul on August 22, 2007, 04:28:43 AM
That's what I'm asking and that is why I made this thread - to see if others are doing what I call "machine training" twice a day in-human hardcore training.

Gotta go out for a while... need to FEED THE MACHINE bbl

Do that shit bro, your not human.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 22, 2007, 04:43:26 AM
the actual time spent in the gym isnt more than it used to be when i worked out once a day - 45 minutes each time 1,5 hours total
it's all about the intensity baby

What? 10 sets of 6 reps should take some serious time. how many exercises do you do every time? 2?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: sandpiper on August 22, 2007, 05:21:54 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

compare that with for example pumpsters once a week home gym training with his bowflex and you realize why that armchair bodybuilder who is in his 50's has the strength and body of an 80 year old!


Get a life man...


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: ironneck on August 22, 2007, 05:23:09 AM

Get a life man...

do you really think he is serious?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: SteelePegasus on August 22, 2007, 05:24:49 AM
So you have treadmills with a laptop? cool show me were you train i want to see that.

c'mon dude, do you actually believe that bluto works out?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: GetBigOrDieTrying on August 22, 2007, 05:59:08 AM
Bluto do you hurt after a work out for the next 3 days?

If you train legs could you run the next day?

What are your stats man because if your such a machine you must be a monster have you got any pics?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Meso_z on August 22, 2007, 06:02:25 AM
That's what I'm asking and that is why I made this thread - to see if others are doing what I call "machine training" twice a day in-human hardcore training.

Gotta go out for a while... need to FEED THE MACHINE bbl

Go train then pigface.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:08:02 AM
What? 10 sets of 6 reps should take some serious time. how many exercises do you do every time? 2?

Rest is only 1 minute between sets. I do 2 exercises for calves twice a week.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:09:10 AM
do you really think he is serious?

I am serious. This is what I do.

Training each body part twice a week is better than once a week

Training twice a day is better than once a day



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:10:04 AM
Bluto do you hurt after a work out for the next 3 days?

If you train legs could you run the next day?

What are your stats man because if your such a machine you must be a monster have you got any pics?

Next day isnt so bad, two days after training legs is the worst.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 22, 2007, 06:12:24 AM
Rest is only 1 minute between sets. I do 2 exercises for calves twice a week.

I meant to ask how many exercises you do per workout.

45 minutes training, all 10 sets for 6 reps each. That means you only do three exercises each time?
Also, taking time into consideration, going to the gym, changing clothes, showering and so on, i guess each training session should tkae 1 1/2 hours.

You do have a lot of time over the day it seems.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:18:51 AM
I meant to ask how many exercises you do per workout.

45 minutes training, all 10 sets for 6 reps each. That means you only do three exercises each time?
Also, taking time into consideration, going to the gym, changing clothes, showering and so on, i guess each training session should tkae 1 1/2 hours.

You do have a lot of time over the day it seems.

10x6 is for calves only. I do less sets for the other bodyparts. I hit the gym once in the morning and once in the evening.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 22, 2007, 06:22:34 AM
10x6 is for calves only. I do less sets for the other bodyparts. I hit the gym once in the morning and once in the evening.

So you do HIT?



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:24:18 AM
So you do HIT?



No I do machine training.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: GetBigOrDieTrying on August 22, 2007, 06:28:32 AM
Bluto how much do you weigh and what your height?

Seriously man either you are juiced to the gill and living like a pro or your not training hard enough.

I dont see the need to train that much unless its pre contest and your not doing any cardio.

You grow when you rest not while your in the gym.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
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Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 06:40:11 AM
Bodybuilders live with the impression they're hardcore, train hard and eat a lot. Well they're delusional. A swimmer trains for 4-5 hours a day every day and eat 7,000-10,000 caloriers per day. Where as a typical bodybuilder hits the gym for less than 1 hour, four times a week and consume 3,5000-4,000 calories!

You're telling me I can't hit the gym once in the morning for back and then come back in the evening for chest (total time in the gym 1,5 hours) unless I'm training like a sissy or juiced to the grills? That's bullshit.

Time to man up.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: GetBigOrDieTrying on August 22, 2007, 07:04:07 AM
Its not the amount of time spent in the gym but the quality of the time. Any one can train 3 hours worth of weight. Not every one can train 1 hour a day hi intensity.  When I first started training I used to train my entire body mon – fri , took me 2.5 hours. I woke up as I got older.

More is not better.

I don’t know a lot of endurance athletes taking in 10 cal a day. Saying that its also a lot easier to get in high cal when your drinking energy drinks , chocolate , and all that jazz instead of eating chicken and rice.

Let a swimmer eat 10 000 cal of chicken , steak , eggs , rice , pasta and potato they will sink to the bottom of the pool.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Krankenstein on August 22, 2007, 07:29:25 AM
it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

Perhaps if you got Goodrums Guide to Great Calves you wouldnt need that approach.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 07:32:45 AM
Its not the amount of time spent in the gym but the quality of the time. Any one can train 3 hours worth of weight. Not every one can train 1 hour a day hi intensity.  When I first started training I used to train my entire body mon – fri , took me 2.5 hours. I woke up as I got older.

More is not better.

I don’t know a lot of endurance athletes taking in 10 cal a day. Saying that its also a lot easier to get in high cal when your drinking energy drinks , chocolate , and all that jazz instead of eating chicken and rice.

Let a swimmer eat 10 000 cal of chicken , steak , eggs , rice , pasta and potato they will sink to the bottom of the pool.


No because they won't eat it in one serving. And more is better if it's done smart.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 22, 2007, 08:55:17 AM
I do pullovers with elmariachi's mom.. All 300 lbs of her.

And I hit the gym 5 times a week, so combined with my sessions with el's mom, that comes out to 6 times a week.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Monster81 on August 22, 2007, 09:08:27 AM
Blolo, Blojob,or blo f#ck what ever ur stupid name is get ur self burned ,  ur just another wannabe filling up space in the gym waisting real BBers time .become a swimmer ).


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: bigmc on August 22, 2007, 09:16:56 AM
bluto is quite the attention whore  ::)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Monster81 on August 22, 2007, 09:37:07 AM
(swimmers)huh.,  dont u realise that bodybuliding is a 24/7 sport..we even consider the hours we sleep fool..
as King Kamali said its a life style bi#ch.,


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: j3di3 on August 22, 2007, 09:52:18 AM
i used to train twice a day on several occasions, let me tell you one thing, i didnt really make any more progress training that way, than for example traning once a day 4 times a week. tried different methods, dual undulated periodization and some other crap, all same shit in the end.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 22, 2007, 11:48:24 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

Interesting.

What does your split look like?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 12:15:12 PM
upper body twice a week. lower body twice a week. arms on their own day.

so for example upper body would be back, chest, shoulders. but i felt that if i started with back i was pretty fried when it came to chest/shoulders so by adding another split i can do back and then come back later for chest/shoulders.



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 22, 2007, 12:24:44 PM
upper body twice a week. lower body twice a week. arms on their own day.

so for example upper body would be back, chest, shoulders. but i felt that if i started with back i was pretty fried when it came to chest/shoulders so by adding another split i can do back and then come back later for chest/shoulders.



Ok, you split the workout into one morning and one evening workout?

I do that whenever it's convenient actually.

FWIW, saw some study awhile ago that training twice every other day is better than training once every day.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 12:41:15 PM
Ok, you split the workout into one morning and one evening workout?

I do that whenever it's convenient actually.

FWIW, saw some study awhile ago that training twice every other day is better than training once every day.

yes.

mentally it's easier for me to focus on one muscle group at a time. energywise i think it's better too, obviously the energy level 30-45 minutes into your workout will not be as good as in the beginning of the workout so whatever you're doing as your second muscle  group or even third will suffer.

back is a big muscle group that i prefer doing on its own. hamstrings i feel suffer after doing heavy quads before. and i also sometimes feel pain in my lower back which makes it hard to give my all on hams after quads.

there might be other positive things with it when it comes to the effect lifting twice a day has on the endurance and the body in general and also when it comes to digesting nutritients etc just a guess



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: WOOO on August 22, 2007, 05:40:41 PM
All you dumb queers, need to shut the fuck up, and listen to this mad cat blutos RAP,

This slick, talks the talk, but can walk the walk, he BACKS SHIT UP,

this guy is a super big, super strong, moderator, he has this bitch on lock

word to your mothers.



.... i nominate this for worst post of the year...






Bluto:  I think that kind of volume would overwhelm most natties, but i have trained like that in the past (especially before i turned 25)... i have trained twice a day and for weeks on end without days off... the trick to maintain it is LOTS of sleep, great nutrition and short intense workouts!

i would probably do 2-a-days if i could but with a 10 hour working day plus other commitments it's just a no-go for me at this point


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 22, 2007, 05:48:23 PM


.... i nominate this for worst post of the year...






Bluto:  I think that kind of volume would overwhelm most natties, but i have trained like that in the past (especially before i turned 25)... i have trained twice a day and for weeks on end without days off... the trick to maintain it is LOTS of sleep, great nutrition and short intense workouts!

i would probably do 2-a-days if i could but with a 10 hour working day plus other commitments it's just a no-go for me at this point

Yes it's not for everyone. And even for me, it's not all the time. It's tempting to add exercises to back day for example since I "only" do back, but I limit to just a few exercises.  :)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: haider on August 22, 2007, 08:59:48 PM
Let's share routines big man, I just made one that may just be my best one yet: 5-6 times a week alternating Upper and Lower workouts, each workout with it's own emphasis whether it be strength for a lift, hypertrophy for a particular bodypart, or jsut a workout that plays a part in the overall periodization scheme. Can't wait to get on it after I'm done with my current HST routine  8)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 23, 2007, 01:50:03 AM
i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 23, 2007, 02:03:35 AM
i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go


HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 23, 2007, 02:09:33 AM
HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  ;D ;D

looks to me like bryan haycock didnt leave room for us posting on getbig when he created it!


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 23, 2007, 02:50:20 AM
looks to me like bryan haycock didnt leave room for us posting on getbig when he created it!

lol


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: haider on August 23, 2007, 09:57:20 AM
i never gave hst a try. if i recall correctly there was too much calculating etc i cant stand that i just wanna hit the gym and go

the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me ;D) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.

HST is pretty good actually, and very intense.

At the 80% level i went home after a workout, shaking and shivering and had to sleep for 4 hours straight.

That's also why i gave it up. 3 hours training and 4 hours sleep and the day only consists of work and training.  ;D ;D
Sure u did it right  ??? maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 23, 2007, 10:00:24 AM
the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me ;D) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.
Sure u did it right  ??? maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

well i just get tired of all those programs that calculate a lot, hst, power factor or whatever, its one week this, one week something else, 60% max 65%max 2% weight increase etc etc
but thats just me


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 23, 2007, 02:39:26 PM
the numbers don't really have to be calculated; its used only as a tool, so as long as ure upping the weight (progressive resistance) and have a good intuition about it its fine. I guess some people (like me ;D) just get too invovled and crazy with the numbers- I do this firstly because Im ridiculously analytical with things and also because I can just go in the gym and KNOW RIGHT THEN what I have to do so there's no thinking invovled in the gym.
Sure u did it right  ??? maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

My best results from HST came when I cut down the number of excersises, and went to training every other day.

Would do perhaps 4-5 excersises only, and 3 sets. A little unorthodox from HST, but it cut down the time in the gym, also made me pound the weights better.

I would also rotate squats with front squats, and deadlifts with DB rows, benchpresses with close grips and dips, if I remember correctly.



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2007, 12:38:44 AM

Sure u did it right  ??? maybe you used too much volume but Ive done several HST cycles and never had this problem.. weird.

I did Cluster-HST which 20 reps.

4 exercises: dips, chin ups, squats and deadlifts.
training three times a week.

i started with 65% and worked up to 90%, clustering my way through which means i started at 1 set 20 reps and ended on 20 sets with 1 rep each at 90%.

Very fucking intense, tell me this wouldn't put you to sleep.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: haider on August 24, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
I did Cluster-HST which 20 reps.

4 exercises: dips, chin ups, squats and deadlifts.
training three times a week.

i started with 65% and worked up to 90%, clustering my way through which means i started at 1 set 20 reps and ended on 20 sets with 1 rep each at 90%.

Very fucking intense, tell me this wouldn't put you to sleep.  ;D ;D ;D
LOL! I literally laughed out loud when I read your first post regarding HST  ;D I'm quit unfamiliar with cluster HST, actually this is the second time Im hearing about it really. MOTHERFVCKER 20 sets with 90%, thats your 3 rm done for 20 REPS!! If that shit aint intense I don't know what is.. That would fvckin kill anyone who's any less than insane. How long are u supposed to rest in between reps? (i assume they are done 1 rep at a time?) Do u deadlift every workout? (I imagine this is the most draining part) Does the frequency of the workouts change? And most important of all questions, WERE U ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE FVCKING THING?  ;D LOL

Oh, also if u have a link where i can read up on it that would be much appreciated.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 25, 2007, 03:07:54 AM
LOL! I literally laughed out loud when I read your first post regarding HST  ;D I'm quit unfamiliar with cluster HST, actually this is the second time Im hearing about it really. MOTHERFVCKER 20 sets with 90%, thats your 3 rm done for 20 REPS!! If that shit aint intense I don't know what is.. That would fvckin kill anyone who's any less than insane. How long are u supposed to rest in between reps? (i assume they are done 1 rep at a time?) Do u deadlift every workout? (I imagine this is the most draining part) Does the frequency of the workouts change? And most important of all questions, WERE U ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE FVCKING THING?  ;D LOL

Oh, also if u have a link where i can read up on it that would be much appreciated.

Hehe, you're right on everything. Rests between sets is 2-3 minutes. All four exercises are done every workout. Which means, deadlifts and squats every time.

i did it only twice, from 60% to 90%.
90% workouts really last a few hours, because you do 1 rep, rest 2-3 minutes, 1 rep, and so on.
I think at the time i did it i cut down to 15 reps on dips and chin ups, because i simply could not do more. Joints aching on dips and forearms giving up on chinups.  ;D ;D

I want to do it again, but you have to take a vacation to do it.  ;D ;D ;D
At least for the 80-90% part.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: haider on August 25, 2007, 09:48:40 AM
Hehe, you're right on everything. Rests between sets is 2-3 minutes. All four exercises are done every workout. Which means, deadlifts and squats every time.

i did it only twice, from 60% to 90%.
90% workouts really last a few hours, because you do 1 rep, rest 2-3 minutes, 1 rep, and so on.
I think at the time i did it i cut down to 15 reps on dips and chin ups, because i simply could not do more. Joints aching on dips and forearms giving up on chinups.  ;D ;D

I want to do it again, but you have to take a vacation to do it.  ;D ;D ;D
At least for the 80-90% part.  ;D ;D
haha no way I could do it with school n all, sounds like fun though for a change (given enough time). Maybe you should try keeping with u a BCAA drink + extra carbs to keep u going through the workout  ;) Maybe try a regular HST program next time, which won't take u much more than an hour at a time  :P Also if u could post a link to the cluster-HST program  ::)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on August 26, 2007, 02:08:30 AM
haha no way I could do it with school n all, sounds like fun though for a change (given enough time). Maybe you should try keeping with u a BCAA drink + extra carbs to keep u going through the workout  ;) Maybe try a regular HST program next time, which won't take u much more than an hour at a time  :P Also if u could post a link to the cluster-HST program  ::)

Ah sorry, i forgot about the link.

I read it up on german bb boards, so if you can't speak german i guess you should try bodybuilding.com articles or just google.

Sorry!


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Bluto on August 27, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
i read an article about arnold at a time he actually trained three (3) times a day  8)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Cold on September 15, 2007, 11:48:54 AM
I hit the gym ultra high frequency style. Sometimes I go twice a day. I'm a complete proponent of high volume high frequency. I spent many years listening to studies and bought into the low frequency, recovery time bull crap. Train frequent, eat frequent, sleep frequent. That's the absolute best way to grow.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on September 16, 2007, 04:27:07 PM
i read an article about arnold at a time he actually trained three (3) times a day  8)

Yeah, and i read an article that said Ronnie Coleman was natural and got big from 2.2g of Protein per lb of body mass and tons of Broccoli. ;) ;)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 16, 2007, 04:42:16 PM
JFT



Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: tallgerman on September 10, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

pic or stfu and gtfo


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: dyslexic on September 11, 2010, 01:19:03 AM
Nobody reads through the sarcasm?


I train 3 times a day.



He even trains his mandibles (away from the board)


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: benchmstr on September 11, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Nobody reads through the sarcasm?


I train 3 times a day.



He even trains his mandibles (away from the board)
there is a great need for sarcasm font...

bench


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: tallgerman on September 15, 2010, 11:46:10 PM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.


pics or stfu


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: _bruce_ on September 16, 2010, 07:13:26 AM
Bluto's work ethic is second to none.
No wonder droves of women are magnetized by his steel buns.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: wild willie on April 05, 2011, 07:34:29 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.
Bluto,

IMHO.....you would progress nicely if you only trained 4-5 times a week.....rest and recovery will give you the results you are seeking.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: jpm101 on April 05, 2011, 08:36:42 AM
Could never quite make up my mind who was the most driven hardcore BB'er. And had the most overwhelming muscle mass. Tough selection between Bluto and Pumpster. Fatpanda was right up the among those titans. Inspiration to us all....Good Luck


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Firemuscle on April 11, 2011, 03:29:42 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.

 Are you unemployed or something?

 If I didn't do shit i'd probably lift like 6x per week. But I gotta make a living and go out and hustle, so it's only 3 or 4 times per week for me.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2011, 03:51:36 AM
the reason imo that not more experts, magazines etc preach about hitting the gym more often is that people doesnt have what it takes, cant find the time etc not that it's not optimal for muscle growth

myself, i hit the gym twice a day 4 times a week + once every weekend that's 9 times a week normally and i also circle 3-4 different gyms for change of atmopshere, difference in equipment etc

it's not for everyone, but it is for me. and it doesnt stop there, i also have a high volume approach to training, for example i do 10 sets of 6 on seated calves.
Load of Bollocks  >:( and 3-4 Gyms. If you train so much you can´t be training very hard. I knew a guy like you..he spent allways hours in the gym because he hardly trained and only trained his mouth. How do i know this? because i worked in the Gym.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 04:40:03 AM
Load of Bollocks  >:( and 3-4 Gyms. If you train so much you can´t be training very hard. I knew a guy like you..he spent allways hours in the gym because he hardly trained and only trained his mouth. How do i know this? because i worked in the Gym.

Hint: Bluto does not post here anymore. Bluto was a 14-15 year old czech kid who was autistic. He was not allowed to leave the house and never had contact to "real" people, only that his mother gave him food twice a day. He was also in a wheelchair, he was only posting here to be "accepted", unfortunately we did not realize this until it was too late and "Bluto" killed himself by watching all Mits Okabe movies in a row, creating a hemorrhage in the brain that killed him.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: jpm101 on April 12, 2011, 07:00:54 AM
When referring to Bluto, DK II listed the qualities needed to become a mod on GB. Bluto is in the GB Mod hall of fame.

After his death, Blutos body was put to sea, face down, with a Jolly Rodgers flag planted within his ass. If lucky enough to have the original training book ,written by Bluto, treasure it. It covers all the protocols of serious advance BB'ing from A to A minus.

On an equal par with Bluto was Pumpster another outstanding mod on GB. His 12 volume books on the use of the BowFlex are still a classic in Pro hardcore training. Pumpster now is the official greeter at the Piss Rock, Mississippi Wal-Mart super store. As Pumpster approaches 90 years, the option to retire is near.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: obtuse_waiter on May 23, 2011, 04:04:34 AM
anyone reccomend a high volume routine for me?


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: DK II on May 23, 2011, 04:12:47 AM
anyone reccomend a high volume routine for me?

Yes.

all exercises in supersets, 3 sets, 20 reps for 2 weeks, then 12 reps for 2 weeks, then 6 reps for 2 weeks, repeat.

Exercises:

Superset 1:
Squats or Front squats
Stiff legged deadlifts

Superset 2:
bench press
chin ups

Superset 3:
Dumbell overhead press
calves

Superset 4:
barbell curl
french press or dips

Superset 5:
abs
hyperextensions


The exercises are examples, but you should stick to basic exercises. Do the same exercises all the time, if a machine is in use and you have to wait, do something else, but don't wait.
Try to keep breaks in between sets under one minute.

Do this 3-5 times a week.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: magikusar on December 10, 2012, 01:42:51 PM
inside the mind


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 10, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
Bluto was a quality poster


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: buffbong on January 02, 2013, 10:45:12 AM
 I've never trained a muscle group with two actual workouts in the same week. For weak areas in the past I would do one exercise at different day from the main workout. I never felt it was productive since when attempting a workout without enough rest days between workouts. Anything sooner than 5 to 7 days led to subpar results in the gym. Bluto does make a good point in stopping himself from adding exercises and sets when performing one group per day. When people divide their workouts more frequently they also make the mistake of adding in excessive volume.


Title: Re: are you training enough? i hit the gym 9 times a week! thats volume baby!
Post by: Cold on January 28, 2013, 03:52:10 PM
3 times per week. same result as 12 times per week.

rather spend time fucking bitches


Title: Work
Post by: bigmanforlife on February 11, 2013, 07:06:47 AM
Yes working.  Is what most of my day consists of.  After that it's sleep.