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Title: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 10:21:30 AM
Hello pet lovers.  What breed do you think best meets this criteria:

*Good with kids
*Smart
*Medium size
*Minimal shedding/barking


What other attributes whould I be considering?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on September 10, 2007, 10:25:59 AM
Tempermant


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: jmt1 on September 10, 2007, 10:50:09 AM
Hello pet lovers.  What breed do you think best meets this criteria:

*Good with kids
*Smart
*Medium size
*Minimal shedding/barking


What other attributes whould I be considering?

consider the american pitbull terrier
*outstanding with kids
*great family dog
*their scores on temperament test rank among the highest of any breed
*intellegent and easy to train
*very loyal
*extremely people friendly
*do not bark much


*they can be animal agressive so if you want a dog park, dog friendly dog, it can take some work to socialize them.
*dont consider a pitbull if you want a good watch dog. it just isnt in their nature.
*dont consider a pitbull unless you have the time to have them outside exercising everyday. they have alot of energy and need to work that out.


Alfons Estelt of the American Temperament Test Society, Inc., said, "The American Pit Bull Terriers participating in our temperament evaluation have thus far shown a passing rate of 95%.  The other 121 breeds of dogs in our tests showed the average passing rate of 77%.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/8302/PitBullArticle.html


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Hello pet lovers.  What breed do you think best meets this criteria:

*Good with kids
*Smart
*Medium size
*Minimal shedding/barking


What other attributes whould I be considering?

Is a Labrador too big?

btw...they can be high energy when they are young....requiring a back yard.

Do you have a back yard?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 11:14:03 AM
We have 3/4 acre so there is plenty of room.  However, my wife is a neat freak, and is already stressing about her precious gardens & lawns ::)

I like labs, but if I'm traveling, I may not always have the time to give it the exercise it needs.  Perhaps a slightly smaller dog that doesn't require as much excersise, but can hang in a 3-4 mile hike 2-3 times week.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 11:27:59 AM
We have 3/4 acre so there is plenty of room.  However, my wife is a neat freak, and is already stressing about her precious gardens & lawns ::)

I like labs, but if I'm traveling, I may not always have the time to give it the exercise it needs.  Perhaps a slightly smaller dog that doesn't require as much excersise, but can hang in a 3-4 mile hike 2-3 times week.

All small dogs are high energy....but may not be big enough to hold up during a hike.

A mix (or rescue) thats mid size may be best.  Otherwise...a small/medium lab weighs @ 55lbs.  Females may be the right size for you.  I grew up with them & can tell you they love long hikes.  They're a working/hunting dog.  They do like to dig (like most dogs) but there's nothing that can stop that.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: AVBG on September 10, 2007, 11:47:10 AM
Jack Russell, like Eddie (Frasier).. Great with kids, friendly nature, small (don't need as much exercise), short coat (not much dog hair in summer).



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 11:48:05 AM
A Schnoodle  ;D - Benji type dog

(http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images10/SCHNOODLESandy.jpg)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 11:52:02 AM
Jack Russell, like Eddie (Frasier).. Great with kids, friendly nature, small (don't need as much exercise), short coat (not much dog hair in summer).



I'd have to disagree on the exercise point.  They have a tendancy to be very hyper and diggers (wife & yard  :-\)  They'd be good if a lot of time and attention were devoted to physical and mental exercise...

I'd also caution against a pit for a couple of reasons.  First, and unfortunately, your homeowners insurance will go up or may even get dropped.  Check into that.  Second, your kids playmates parents may have a problem with it and not allow their kids to come over....


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 11:54:23 AM
I agree with Princess L

everyone that I know say the same thing about them


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 11:56:02 AM
Jack Russell, like Eddie (Frasier).. Great with kids, friendly nature, small (don't need as much exercise), short coat (not much dog hair in summer).



I did consider this breed.  Would it do well hiking?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 11:57:02 AM
All small dogs are high energy....but may not be big enough to hold up during a hike.

A mix (or rescue) thats mid size may be best.  Otherwise...a small/medium lab weighs @ 55lbs.  Females may be the right size for you.  I grew up with them & can tell you they love long hikes.  They're a working/hunting dog.  They do like to dig (like most dogs) but there's nothing that can stop that.

How would a lab do if from time to time I can't take it on hikes or excersice it?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 11:58:23 AM

I'd have to disagree on the exercise point.  They have a tendancy to be very hyper and diggers (wife & yard  :-\)  They'd be good if a lot of time and attention were devoted to physical and mental exercise...

I'd also caution against a pit for a couple of reasons.  First, and unfortunately, your homeowners insurance will go up or may even get dropped.  Check into that.  Second, your kids playmates parents may have a problem with it and not allow their kids to come over....

Funny you metion that.  We just bought a new house and had to get new home owners ins.  One of the questions was was type of do we have...


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 12:00:04 PM
How would a lab do if from time to time I can't take it on hikes or excersice it?
  I see A LOT of them get fat.

Look at this site and check into a rescue dog.  http://petfinder.com/



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: AVBG on September 10, 2007, 12:01:17 PM
Speaking from personal experience (I have two Jack Russells), I have had none of the problems Princess L has mentioned.. IF anything they have demonstrated to be "low maintenence" dogs.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 12:01:26 PM
  I see A LOT of them get fat.

Look at this site and check into a rescue dog.  http://petfinder.com/



fat?

maybe if it was a spayed female


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 12:02:45 PM
I did consider this breed.  Would it do well hiking?

It's a terrier....meant for hunting

Would do alot worse than the lab if you didn't take it for walks.  Will destroy the yard instead.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 12:03:58 PM
How would a lab do if from time to time I can't take it on hikes or excersice it?

Just like any dog.  Seriously...it would adjust better than most dogs...especially the jack russel


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 12:10:39 PM
Speaking from personal experience (I have two Jack Russells), I have had none of the problems Princess L has mentioned.. IF anything they have demonstrated to be "low maintenance" dogs.
 I'm with ya on the low maintenance, but they do have a tendency to be hyper if they aren't stimulated enough ~ right?
fat?

maybe if it was a spayed female

Nah, boys too ~ that is IF they don't get plenty of exercise (like 45 mins a day).  They love to fetch tennis balls!  Get a chuckit!  ;D cuz labs are relentless when they're having fun :P


It's a terrier....meant for hunting

Would do alot worse than the lab if you didn't take it for walks.  Will destroy the yard instead.
^concur


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: AVBG on September 10, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
 I'm with ya on the low maintenance, but they do have a tendency to be hyper if they aren't stimulated enough ~ right?



my two young kids keep them busy, so there isn't any room for boredom.. So I really couldn't say how'd they react without stimulation... In that respect, I think most dogs are the same and do require attention so they don't go loopy.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
My Scout would be perfect for you  :P

BUT, he's taken  :P




I'm serious about the Benji type dog  8)




Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Hedgehog on September 10, 2007, 06:05:20 PM
Hello pet lovers.  What breed do you think best meets this criteria:

*Good with kids
*Smart
*Medium size
*Minimal shedding/barking


What other attributes whould I be considering?

Golden Retriever.

Friendly dog, calm, obedient.





Did I mention calm? ;D



But don't get a dog mang. Be free.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 10, 2007, 06:15:23 PM
Golden Retriever.

Friendly dog, calm, obedient.





Did I mention calm? ;D



But don't get a dog mang. Be free.

I'm married with children, bro.  Freedom is something so far in the past, that it seems like it was a distant dream....ha ha!


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 10, 2007, 06:30:24 PM
He wants a dog that doesn't have quartlery shedding problems

 ::)

also.....they're far from calm till they get older


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 10, 2007, 08:15:27 PM
Golden Retriever.

Friendly dog, calm, obedient.



Did I mention calm? ;D



But don't get a dog mang. Be free.

I love goldens.  They're awesome, but I don't think the right breed for Mindspin.

First of all, too big.  Second; grooming.  They need to be brushed on a regular basis.  Third; there will be fur bunnies all over the house (like dust bunnies) and will drive the wifey nuts.

Being a larger breed like that, they can be susceptible to hip issues among other things (ie: vet bills and shortened quality of life) and the life expectancy probably won't  see the kids go off to college...

There's nothing cuter than a golden puppy tho  ;D  Don't let that suck you in Mindspin.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 11, 2007, 07:13:02 AM
look at a Shibu Inu Mindspin about 25lbs, dont bark or shed much, and very intelligent


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 11, 2007, 07:27:30 AM
Our old neighbors have a Golden Retreiver.  Great dog, but holy shit does it shed!  I'd be in the dog house if I brought one home...literaly.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 11, 2007, 07:28:16 AM
look at a Shibu Inu Mindspin about 25lbs, dont bark or shed much, and very intelligent

I'll check it out.  Thanks bro. 

Anyone know fo a good site that lists breeds and theor attributes?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 11, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
I'll check it out.  Thanks bro. 

Anyone know fo a good site that lists breeds and theor attributes?

Those are cool looking dogs.  Kinda like a miniature Akita.

~flower~ has posted some links for breed finders a couple of times.  Haven't been taying apention have you?

Don't forget to check out petfinder.com


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 11, 2007, 01:15:26 PM
No offense but a Shibu Inu is a horrible choice.  While they are smart and clean and quiet...they are also extremely willful and independent.

It is so cliche but a female golden is probably a good choice, same with labs.

Whatever you do, stay away from breeds that have strong inherent traits.  Most are larger breeds but for a short list the Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Akita, Mastiff, Chow, Sharpei, Giant Schnauzer, Malamute, Husky, Belgian Malinois, Doberman.  I would include pitbull's but they are awesome with kids, albeit another strong breed that needs guidance and training.  All in all, I would not go for anything I have listed.

Small dogs are GENERALLY bark happy, anything like a Chihuahua/Yorkie/Jack Russell has the tendency to be watch-dogish.

As a final word, if you decide to ignore your requirements of size and shedding issues...

St. Bernard's and Newfoundland's from reputable breeders could not be more amazing with children.  I stress the reputable breeder comment because it is vital to their temperament.  Absolute gentle giants, and if I had to recommend a breed to someone who was open to all ideas, they would be my two choices.  Also as a first family dog, I'd probably go with a bitch.


PS - Back to the pitbull issue.  If you can find someone who does puppy evals with the litter at 6-7 weeks and finds you a female pitbull from a KNOWN BREEDER that is submissive, you basically have your dog that is great with kids and can hang with a 3-4 mile hike without breaking a sweat.  This is of course when it is older, don't go killing a dog before it has matured =P


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 11, 2007, 02:10:27 PM
No offense but a Shibu Inu is a horrible choice.  While they are smart and clean and quiet...they are also extremely willful and independent.

It is so cliche but a female golden is probably a good choice, same with labs.

Whatever you do, stay away from breeds that have strong inherent traits.  Most are larger breeds but for a short list the Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Akita, Mastiff, Chow, Sharpei, Giant Schnauzer, Malamute, Husky, Belgian Malinois, Doberman.  I would include pitbull's but they are awesome with kids, albeit another strong breed that needs guidance and training.  All in all, I would not go for anything I have listed.

Small dogs are GENERALLY bark happy, anything like a Chihuahua/Yorkie/Jack Russell has the tendency to be watch-dogish.

As a final word, if you decide to ignore your requirements of size and shedding issues...

St. Bernard's and Newfoundland's from reputable breeders could not be more amazing with children.  I stress the reputable breeder comment because it is vital to their temperament.  Absolute gentle giants, and if I had to recommend a breed to someone who was open to all ideas, they would be my two choices.  Also as a first family dog, I'd probably go with a bitch.


PS - Back to the pitbull issue.  If you can find someone who does puppy evals with the litter at 6-7 weeks and finds you a female pitbull from a KNOWN BREEDER that is submissive, you basically have your dog that is great with kids and can hang with a 3-4 mile hike without breaking a sweat.  This is of course when it is older, don't go killing a dog before it has matured =P

Great info.  thanks man.  Newfoundland's were already on my short list...


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: emn1964 on September 11, 2007, 04:02:23 PM
Great info.  thanks man.  Newfoundland's were already on my short list...

If you have a prob with golden hair your wife will go nuts over a newfie.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 11, 2007, 05:22:45 PM
If you have a prob with golden hair your wife will go nuts over a newfie.

So true.  They need to be brushed daily, only takes 5-10min.

Newfies and Saints are so great with kids.  They are just big goofy balls of love.  And on top of that, while they can be protective, they are quite docile, but you don't really have to worry about people coming near your kids when there is 150lb dog with them =P They are also very gentle.  There are some other large breeds that are hard to handle like my Rottie.  By hard to handle I mean he does everything vigorously and with focus and intent.  He isn't exactly light footed.  Newfs/Saints are very cautious and very aware of their strength, while in my opinion, Rottweilers are less aware of this than Newfs/Saints.

I am not trying to sway on you on any breed by the way, honestly.  I am only commenting on breeds I have experience with or know people very well who own them and work them.

But LOOK FOR BREEDERS NO MATTER WHAT BREED YOU CHOOSE.  If you can find a breeder that breeds SHOW dogs and NOT working dogs, you can assure the dog will have a pretty laid back temperament and a semi low energy level.  My rottweiler's sire/dam are schutzhund dogs and he needs a good deal of exercise to keep him sane.  Show dogs are very easygoing.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 11, 2007, 05:23:48 PM
If you have a prob with golden hair your wife will go nuts over a newfie.

I know.  It's on my list, not hers.  If she had it her way, we would have a dog that doesn't bark, poop, shed, etc.  Basically a stuffed animal  ::)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Vet on September 11, 2007, 05:50:55 PM
I know.  It's on my list, not hers.  If she had it her way, we would have a dog that doesn't bark, poop, shed, etc.  Basically a stuffed animal  ::)

YEah, the not pooping is hard to avoid....    ;)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 11, 2007, 07:29:03 PM
No offense but a Shibu Inu is a horrible choice.  While they are smart and clean and quiet...they are also extremely willful and independent.

It is so cliche but a female golden is probably a good choice, same with labs.

Whatever you do, stay away from breeds that have strong inherent traits.  Most are larger breeds but for a short list the Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Akita, Mastiff, Chow, Sharpei, Giant Schnauzer, Malamute, Husky, Belgian Malinois, Doberman.  I would include pitbull's but they are awesome with kids, albeit another strong breed that needs guidance and training.  All in all, I would not go for anything I have listed.

Small dogs are GENERALLY bark happy, anything like a Chihuahua/Yorkie/Jack Russell has the tendency to be watch-dogish.

As a final word, if you decide to ignore your requirements of size and shedding issues...

St. Bernard's and Newfoundland's from reputable breeders could not be more amazing with children.  I stress the reputable breeder comment because it is vital to their temperament.  Absolute gentle giants, and if I had to recommend a breed to someone who was open to all ideas, they would be my two choices.  Also as a first family dog, I'd probably go with a bitch.


PS - Back to the pitbull issue.  If you can find someone who does puppy evals with the litter at 6-7 weeks and finds you a female pitbull from a KNOWN BREEDER that is submissive, you basically have your dog that is great with kids and can hang with a 3-4 mile hike without breaking a sweat.  This is of course when it is older, don't go killing a dog before it has matured =P

i disagree with your commet on willful dogs. True some breeds are harder to train and more stubborn than others but usally when you get a dog as a pup- 7-8 weeks you they will except the family as its pack and if you work with even the strongest willed dogs they will take there place as lowest in the pack. 9 times out of 10 its the dogs training not the dog with an issue. I just brought a new baby into our house and my dog excepted him as a more dominent member with in days.  The matter of independence is usally found in dogs that were bred to guard, but not always. Ive owned several Lasha Apsos some were highly independent and others not at all so I think that depends on breeding and the parents temperment. If I were bring a dog into a "new to dog" family with children I might avoid large powerful breeds not on a tempermet basis but on the damage potential. Ive never owned a Shibu or a Besenji but if you are looking for a quiet, clean, medium low maintence dog I would have a tough time thinking of a better breed. If you want a nice family breed thats wonderful with children hounds are great but they do shed and they are stubborn


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 11, 2007, 08:37:34 PM
i disagree with your commet on willful dogs. True some breeds are harder to train and more stubborn than others but usally when you get a dog as a pup- 7-8 weeks you they will except the family as its pack and if you work with even the strongest willed dogs they will take there place as lowest in the pack. 9 times out of 10 its the dogs training not the dog with an issue. I just brought a new baby into our house and my dog excepted him as a more dominent member with in days.  The matter of independence is usally found in dogs that were bred to guard, but not always. Ive owned several Lasha Apsos some were highly independent and others not at all so I think that depends on breeding and the parents temperment. If I were bring a dog into a "new to dog" family with children I might avoid large powerful breeds not on a tempermet basis but on the damage potential. Ive never owned a Shibu or a Besenji but if you are looking for a quiet, clean, medium low maintence dog I would have a tough time thinking of a better breed. If you want a nice family breed thats wonderful with children hounds are great but they do shed and they are stubborn

"Training", as in obedience training has a much smaller impact on a dogs mind and its realization of who is in charge than does the lifestyle you have it live.  Every dog accepts the family as its pack, it is a matter of where in the pack it feels it is that is the problem.  Breeds that are generally more willful, such as bulldogs and shiba's, are just that, GENERALLY more willful.  A dogs temperament isn't the same at 7-8 weeks as it is when it is 1 year old.  Yes, you can get a feel for submissive/dominant and actually narrow it down quite accurately.  But willfulness is something that is hard to gauge.

This topic is impossible because every dog is different, but it cannot be denied that breeds have traits that shine through more so than other breeds.  Newfoundlands like water, Shiba's are smart/willful.  See my point?

I also COMPLETELY disagree that independence is found in guarding breeds.  If they are so independent and worried about themselves, then what are they guarding?  Independent dogs are care free.  Independence is usually found in hounds, and anyone who has owned one can tell you that.  Rottweilers are known as the "cadillac of guard dogs" and anyone who owns one knows how attached to you at the hip they are.  At any point of the day my Rottweiler will follow me no matter where I go.  Upstairs, the bathroom, the yard.  If I walk away, he follows me, I do not tell him to, he just does.  Once again, hounds are GENERALLY more independent.  Saluki's on the other hand are extremely independent and usually will only bond to one person.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: WOOO on September 12, 2007, 05:20:53 AM
you could get a golden lab and shave it  ;D


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Hedgehog on September 12, 2007, 05:54:08 AM
YEah, the not pooping is hard to avoid....    ;)

You mean shitting?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: rockyfortune on September 12, 2007, 05:58:00 AM
ADOPT!...find a good shelter and adopt...all are temperment tested, and housebroken...older (some as young as a year)  and out of the yippy puppy stage...where most of your work happens...


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 12, 2007, 08:58:46 AM
"Training", as in obedience training has a much smaller impact on a dogs mind and its realization of who is in charge than does the lifestyle you have it live.  Every dog accepts the family as its pack, it is a matter of where in the pack it feels it is that is the problem.  Breeds that are generally more willful, such as bulldogs and shiba's, are just that, GENERALLY more willful.  A dogs temperament isn't the same at 7-8 weeks as it is when it is 1 year old.  Yes, you can get a feel for submissive/dominant and actually narrow it down quite accurately.  But willfulness is something that is hard to gauge.

This topic is impossible because every dog is different, but it cannot be denied that breeds have traits that shine through more so than other breeds.  Newfoundlands like water, Shiba's are smart/willful.  See my point?

I also COMPLETELY disagree that independence is found in guarding breeds.  If they are so independent and worried about themselves, then what are they guarding?  Independent dogs are care free.  Independence is usually found in hounds, and anyone who has owned one can tell you that.  Rottweilers are known as the "cadillac of guard dogs" and anyone who owns one knows how attached to you at the hip they are.  At any point of the day my Rottweiler will follow me no matter where I go.  Upstairs, the bathroom, the yard.  If I walk away, he follows me, I do not tell him to, he just does.  Once again, hounds are GENERALLY more independent.  Saluki's on the other hand are extremely independent and usually will only bond to one person.

I dont have much time now bro but I will say this hounds ( ive owned a few) are one of the least independed in general. They are know for seperation anxiety and work best in groups or packs. Example, a brace of beagle or bassets to run rabbits, fox hounds, guy hounds etc. their is huge difference between scent and sight hounds like salukis, Afghans and greys. more latter gotta run


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 12, 2007, 10:14:20 AM
I dont have much time now bro but I will say this hounds ( ive owned a few) are one of the least independed in general. They are know for seperation anxiety and work best in groups or packs. Example, a brace of beagle or bassets to run rabbits, fox hounds, #### hounds etc. their is huge difference between scent and sight hounds like salukis, Afghans and greys. more latter gotta run

I just used the Saluki as an example.

As far as separation anxiety goes, that has NOTHING to do with the type of dog.  It has to do with the owner.  A lot of times the reason for separation anxiety is because the dog thinks its in charge.  It whines/barks when its subordinates leave, because they never told you to leave.  When you are the boss of your dog you go and do as you please and your dog has no say.

If this is in fact not the case then whatever hounds you have experience with were extremely anxious and insecure dogs all by coincidence.  It can only be one or the other.  This is not the case of a dog being genetically predisposed to a certain trait, because all dogs are born with the desire to follow and obey the pack structure.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 12, 2007, 01:11:49 PM
Hounds are driven by their nose(beagles, bassets coonhounds) not by their desire to be independent or a tendency to be so. If you google Beagles and look at their traits I think you might find that separation anxiety is a common trait. Thats all


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 12, 2007, 01:27:14 PM
Hounds are driven by their nose(beagles, bassets coonhounds) not by their desire to be independent or a tendency to be so. If you google Beagles and look at their traits I think you might find that separation anxiety is a common trait. Thats all

Separation anxiety should not be a normal or common trait in ANY breed.  Absolutely ridiculous.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 12, 2007, 04:53:44 PM
Mindspin how about a miniature bull terrier? Smart, agile, extremely playfull, athletic and great with kids. They go about 15 - 30 lbs but are muscular and athletic. Sounds like something you are looking for. Athletic enough to go fora long run, but also a short haired dog that is not high maintenance. A mini spud McKenzie.

(http://www.cambria-minibullterriers.com/BUG_040.jpg)
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(http://www.cambria-minibullterriers.com/ricohope_115.jpg)

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Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: WOOO on September 12, 2007, 06:44:16 PM
Separation anxiety should not be a normal or common trait in ANY breed.  Absolutely ridiculous.


yeah that sounded a little odd to me too


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 12, 2007, 08:10:04 PM
Separation anxiety should not be a normal or common trait in ANY breed.  Absolutely ridiculous.

Sorry bro your opinion on separation anxiety doesnt hold much water. Im not talking out my ass since I have had 2 beagles/mix and my uncle probably 10 in his life. Its a trait of the breed like it or not and its really not all that uncommon in a few breeds. Being pack animals and generally likeing the company of other dogs and or people they dont do all that well for long periods of time by themselves. Not to say all hounds cry endlessly when seperated, its just one of their less endearing qualitys. Heres a short quote from Beagles:Whats good about em.com

Beagles are excellent choices for families with children. The breed's easygoing nature makes them tolerant family members that love to participate in games. Beagles do not enjoy being left alone for extended periods of time. They can easily become frustrated and bored, leading to behavior problems, including destructive behavior.

And a quick blog from Wikipedia

Beagles are excellent with children and this is one of the reasons they have become popular family pets, but they are pack animals, and can be prone to separation anxiety.[39] Not all Beagles will howl, but most will bark when confronted with strange situations, and some will bay (also referred to as "speaking","giving tongue" or "opening") when they catch the scent of potential quarry.[40] They also generally get along well with other dogs, but can be excitable and may bay. They are not demanding with regard to exercise; their inbred stamina means they do not easily tire when exercised, but they also do not need to be worked to exhaustion before they will rest, though regular exercise helps ward off the weight gain to which the breed is prone.[41]

Im not trying to make an arguement, just stating what I know to be true. I have the sectional couch to prove it.


yeah that sounded a little odd to me too

See above woo


All this aside I still find them to be great dogs, intelligent, loyal, sturdy, and possible the most happy go lucky breed ever.




Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 12, 2007, 08:40:19 PM
It holds so much water that my opinion is fucking overflowing.  Breeds that may or may not be prone to emotional disorders, should not continue the characteristics of said disorder throughout their lifetime due to the actions of a responsible owner who will rectify the problem. period.  Separation anxiety is a result of bad training and babying your dog.

Being protective is a trait of Rottweiler's it doesn't mean you can have visitors.  Herding is a trait of Bouviers it doesn't mean they can't be stopped from herding your children.  We all know what pitbulls were used for, does that mean they are all vicious canine killers?

If any dog, any breed, any age, any sex, 100% OBEYS you, you can stop any unwanted behavior you want.  A dog beckoning to you because you are leaving is a sign of a dog who "holds water" in the pack hierarchy. 

Also, if a dog is properly exercised, which in a beagles case is a TON.  These behaviors would be non existent.  The supposed howling and destructive behavior that is.

Don't like my opinion?  It is true, sorry.  You won't convince me that a beagle who has separation anxiety is because it is a beagle.  Asinine.

Every time I hear someone attribute a dogs bad behavior to the breed I want to smash them in the head with a ball-peen hammer.  Ignorance, flat out ignorance.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 12, 2007, 10:24:06 PM
Mindspin how about a miniature bull terrier? Smart, agile, extremely playfull, athletic and great with kids. They go about 15 - 30 lbs but are muscular and athletic. Sounds like something you are looking for. Athletic enough to go fora long run, but also a short haired dog that is not high maintenance. A mini spud McKenzie.

(http://www.cambria-minibullterriers.com/BUG_040.jpg)
(http://www.anirella.ch/ANIRELL.JPG/WALK.JPG/BOGART2.JPG)

(http://www.cambria-minibullterriers.com/ricohope_115.jpg)

(http://www.cambria-minibullterriers.com/br513054.jpg)








That seems like a GREAT option.  What cute pics....


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: emn1964 on September 13, 2007, 09:15:17 AM
I know.  It's on my list, not hers.  If she had it her way, we would have a dog that doesn't bark, poop, shed, etc.  Basically a stuffed animal  ::)

LMAO--If you find a dog that doesn't poop let me know!!


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: emn1964 on September 13, 2007, 09:20:43 AM
Every time I hear someone attribute a dogs bad behavior to the breed I want to smash them in the head with a ball-peen hammer.  Ignorance, flat out ignorance.

Ummmmm. . . wow.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 13, 2007, 09:24:02 AM
Ummmmm. . . wow.

Yeah.  I was so literal there...I actually had to take my ball-peen hammer out of my back pocket just to sit down...


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 09:47:34 AM
I say get one of these:

I'd like to get one to give our other dog a friend


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 13, 2007, 10:28:49 AM
Isn't that what Ving Rhames had?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 10:33:20 AM
no idea

Just like the dog


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: emn1964 on September 13, 2007, 12:56:13 PM
Isn't that what Ving Rhames had?

No.  Rhames had Filas.  The picture is of a Boerboel.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 13, 2007, 01:08:04 PM
Isn't anyone listening to Mindspin's criteria  ???


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 02:02:12 PM
Isn't anyone listening to Mindspin's criteria  ???

I think we are Pricess....but at this point....he's pretty much on his own.

Honestly, he has a few requirements that limit what he wants.

He just needs to take a trip to the shelter & pick out a medioum sized, short hair, strong for hiking but not overly energized pup dog.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 13, 2007, 02:55:48 PM
I think we are Pricess....but at this point....he's pretty much on his own.

Honestly, he has a few requirements that limit what he wants.

He just needs to take a trip to the shelter & pick out a medioum sized, short hair, strong for hiking but not overly energized pup dog.

I still think he should get a dog from a breeder being that he has children in the house.  Picking a dog from a shelter can be very misleading although I wish more people adopted from there, since it is an awesome thing to do.

I also agree on the mini bull terrier, although I am not sure how they'd fare at hiking, in which case I'd pick a breed that you knew could handle it.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 03:08:44 PM
I still think he should get a dog from a breeder being that he has children in the house.  Picking a dog from a shelter can be very misleading although I wish more people adopted from there, since it is an awesome thing to do.

I also agree on the mini bull terrier, although I am not sure how they'd fare at hiking, in which case I'd pick a breed that you knew could handle it.

getting a puppy from a breeder doesn't always ensure what you're saying.

getting a puppy/young dog from a shelter (IMO) is no different


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 13, 2007, 03:22:48 PM
getting a puppy from a breeder doesn't always ensure what you're saying.

getting a puppy/young dog from a shelter (IMO) is no different

With a reputable breeder, you can see the parents and see the entire litter.  You can ensure health, have better chances of the dogs having good hips, and ensure mental stability. 

A lot of rescues are sweetie pies in the kennel and monsters at home.  This could be due to a million reasons, but I still think with children in the house it is a risk, depending on the breed/shelter.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 05:01:02 PM
I hear ya.....

but do you know how many times I've heard.....


"Huh....his parents never did that"


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 13, 2007, 05:05:55 PM
I hear ya.....

but do you know how many times I've heard.....


"Huh....his parents never did that"

Lol, I know.  I'm saying, generally speaking.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 13, 2007, 05:56:03 PM
Lol, I know.  I'm saying, generally speaking.

Yeah....not only that.....

I had the luxury to visit & see the other pups from my dogs litter.

They all had their own unique personalities & some....had things none of the parents shared.

My dog...is sooo much like his father...it's scary.  Where as all of the other pups in the litter...are nothing like him.



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 13, 2007, 09:55:33 PM
I think Uncle Geo's crazy Stella would be perfect!

...an Aussie mix or mini Aussie or the Benji (schnoodle) on the first page.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=165078.0;attach=190670;image)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 14, 2007, 07:16:32 AM
That seems like a GREAT option.  What cute pics....

I am going to get one myself. As you know I have an American bulldog, but I think that breed may be a bit large for you.

You can get miniature bull terriers in a variety of colors. Some with spots some all one color. Very cute dogs. They are very unique looking and extremely playful. All the benefits of a small dog , but also muscular, athletic and very agile. Good with kids, short hair, wash and wear type of breed. They are very spunky, but your runs should take care of that energy just fine.

Check some out, you wont be sorry.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: jmt1 on September 14, 2007, 08:27:08 AM
mindsping i was just wondering why you made comments on all the dogs suggested but didnt say anything about the apbt.  was wondering because they seem to fit most of the criteria you mentioned as far as being medium size(ave is about 50lbs),great with children, good family dog, better temperament than most breeds, athletic, great for going on hikes, easy to groom, dont bark much. anyway i was just curious if you were considering this breed?



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: rockyfortune on September 14, 2007, 08:27:53 AM
With a reputable breeder, you can see the parents and see the entire litter.  You can ensure health, have better chances of the dogs having good hips, and ensure mental stability. 

A lot of rescues are sweetie pies in the kennel and monsters at home.  This could be due to a million reasons, but I still think with children in the house it is a risk, depending on the breed/shelter.

can't agree with any of these statements...i love hearing the reputable breeded thing..not all are bad but you cannot ensure health, or mental stability from a breeder's dog...my sister has a 7 year old yorkie from a supposed great breeder and he has had more than his share of health problems, hospital stays, and has bitten 5 people...just one of many examples of that type that show up in the shelter i was at..oh, he was cute as a puppy but we don't have time anymore...or the oh the breeder said i didn't have to walk him much...but now he wants to go out all the time..shelter dogs were and are breeders' dogs.

if the dog is a monster at home then it's up the owner to train, and discipline that monster and not blame it on shelter life...most of the dogs in shelters started off as cute, adorable, breeder born pups that lost that cute adorable look once someone realized they become a responsibility...shelter dogs weren't born in the shelter..they were owned by some pretentious jerk who thought that dumping responsibility at someone else's door solves everyone's problem.  take your ball peen hammer to yourself this time.. :P


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 14, 2007, 11:26:33 AM
can't agree with any of these statements...i love hearing the reputable breeded thing..not all are bad but you cannot ensure health, or mental stability from a breeder's dog...my sister has a 7 year old yorkie from a supposed great breeder and he has had more than his share of health problems, hospital stays, and has bitten 5 people...just one of many examples of that type that show up in the shelter i was at..oh, he was cute as a puppy but we don't have time anymore...or the oh the breeder said i didn't have to walk him much...but now he wants to go out all the time..shelter dogs were and are breeders' dogs.

if the dog is a monster at home then it's up the owner to train, and discipline that monster and not blame it on shelter life...most of the dogs in shelters started off as cute, adorable, breeder born pups that lost that cute adorable look once someone realized they become a responsibility...shelter dogs weren't born in the shelter..they were owned by some pretentious jerk who thought that dumping responsibility at someone else's door solves everyone's problem.  take your ball peen hammer to yourself this time.. :P

Your post shows how much you know about dogs

"and has bitten 5 people"

What does that have to do with the breeder they came from?  That is 100% the owners fault.

"or the oh the breeder said i didn't have to walk him much...but now he wants to go out all the time"

You have to walk every dog, and should for their mental health and proper exercise.  Anyone, breeder, Vet, anyone who tells you otherwise is a total moron.

You act like one yorkie's health problems show that breeders mean nothing. 

If you were only interested in getting the healthiest and mentally sound puppy...Would you rather have an 8 week old puppy from a rescue?  A puppy mill?  Or a ***********REPUTABLE************* breeder?  Odds say that the dog from the breeder is your best bet.  Don't be a jerkoff and come into this thread spouting that your sister has a yorkie that bit 5 people and that is a result of the breeder.  It is a result of your sister probably not walking the dog, letting it run the house and not disciplining it because it is "so cute, and it's my baby".

You sir, are a dumbass. 


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: rockyfortune on September 14, 2007, 11:36:03 AM
and i suppose you are the dog whisperer all of a sudden?  my point, and i'll give it to you barney style since you seem to be on a fourth or fifth grade mental capacity was that you can't gauge how a dog is going to whether from a breeder or a shelter. 

what odds are these? that guarantee that you'll get a better dog from a breeder? i'd like to see your studies that show what comes from breeders are better than what comes from assholes (like yourself it seems) that dump puppies and unwanted animals because of the lack of intelligence (again, like yourself it seems) on how to care for them...

I noticed that you chose to ignore the part where i stated that 90% of the dogs that come to shelters have come from some jackass (yes, again, like yourself) who failed to realize that it is a responsibility to care for a dog...why, did you ignore that part? or did you fail to read the rest of it because your ADD started to set in?

and you have the nerve to call me a dumbass? you couldn't even get the jist of my point which was stated in the first sentence...



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 14, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
and i suppose you are the dog whisperer all of a sudden?  my point, and i'll give it to you barney style since you seem to be on a fourth or fifth grade mental capacity was that you can't gauge how a dog is going to whether from a breeder or a shelter. 

what odds are these? that guarantee that you'll get a better dog from a breeder? i'd like to see your studies that show what comes from breeders are better than what comes from assholes (like yourself it seems) that dump puppies and unwanted animals because of the lack of intelligence (again, like yourself it seems) on how to care for them...

I noticed that you chose to ignore the part where i stated that 90% of the dogs that come to shelters have come from some jackass (yes, again, like yourself) who failed to realize that it is a responsibility to care for a dog...why, did you ignore that part? or did you fail to read the rest of it because your ADD started to set in?

and you have the nerve to call me a dumbass? you couldn't even get the jist of my point which was stated in the first sentence...



You are a dumbass, lol.  That is why I called you one. 

Scroll up and look at all the "Generally" speak coming from me and Knny. 


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: rockyfortune on September 14, 2007, 11:41:57 AM
i'd rather not...idiot is not my first language..



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 14, 2007, 11:45:36 AM
i'd rather not...idiot is not my first language..



Not only am I an idiot, Knny is too now?  Wowwww ROCKYFORTUNE is kicking ass today.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: rockyfortune on September 14, 2007, 11:45:36 AM
yeah,,generally speaking you speak out your ass apparently..


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 14, 2007, 12:34:38 PM

What does that have to do with the breeder they came from?  That is 100% the owners fault.


maybe...maybe not

I'm not sure it's proven...but I have seen first hand some traits that are obviously passed on.

I never saw my dog's father until almost after a year we had him.  If I did not know any better....I could have mistaken it was the same goofy dog.  There's things he does that not every dog does & was amazed to see his father do the same.

I've seen this with some dogs that are just big lickers.  Their parents were lickers.  They weren't around their parents growing up so how did this trait get passed on?

Maybe it's so....maybe it's coincidence.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 14, 2007, 01:03:44 PM
maybe...maybe not

I'm not sure it's proven...but I have seen first hand some traits that are obviously passed on.

I never saw my dog's father until almost after a year we had him.  If I did not know any better....I could have mistaken it was the same goofy dog.  There's things he does that not every dog does & was amazed to see his father do the same.

I've seen this with some dogs that are just big lickers.  Their parents were lickers.  They weren't around their parents growing up so how did this trait get passed on?

Maybe it's so....maybe it's coincidence.

Considering the fact that dogs used in the pit who give birth to litters don't come out aggressive, unless they have a mental abnormality, no little Yorkie is genetically programmed to attack people.  Bad parenting.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 15, 2007, 01:36:34 PM
It holds so much water that my opinion is fucking overflowing.  Breeds that may or may not be prone to emotional disorders, should not continue the characteristics of said disorder throughout their lifetime due to the actions of a responsible owner who will rectify the problem. period.  Separation anxiety is a result of bad training and babying your dog.

Being protective is a trait of Rottweiler's it doesn't mean you can have visitors.  Herding is a trait of Bouviers it doesn't mean they can't be stopped from herding your children.  We all know what pitbulls were used for, does that mean they are all vicious canine killers?

If any dog, any breed, any age, any sex, 100% OBEYS you, you can stop any unwanted behavior you want.  A dog beckoning to you because you are leaving is a sign of a dog who "holds water" in the pack hierarchy. 

Also, if a dog is properly exercised, which in a beagles case is a TON.  These behaviors would be non existent.  The supposed howling and destructive behavior that is.

Don't like my opinion?  It is true, sorry.  You won't convince me that a beagle who has separation anxiety is because it is a beagle.  Asinine.

Every time I hear someone attribute a dogs bad behavior to the breed I want to smash them in the head with a ball-peen hammer.  Ignorance, flat out ignorance.

Temper temper cupcake.

You seem to be under the delusion that certain breeds dont have certain traits, some good some bad- wrong!

Separation anxiety doest depend on training to the degree that you believe it does. With my dog, I started him in a cage at 7 weeks and thats where he slept until he was a year old. We also didn't leave him at first for more than an hour at a time and gradually made our trips longer. We made sure he was properly socialized with other dogs at the park and in the neighborhood. He walks anywhere from 1-3 miles nightly as well as an off the leash scramble with his park buddys. During hunting season he  runs a few extra miles on the weekends. From time to time he may have an issue but not often.

If I read you correctly then a rotties protective trait is a result of bad breeding as is a Bouvier De Flanders desire to herd. All breeds have traits some instilled in the breed purposefully others by mistake. I don't think you can separate them at all. Obviously you try and minimize the bad ones but that doesn't mean they are the mistake of the owner/handler.

If any dog, any breed, any age, any sex, 100% OBEYS you, you can stop any unwanted behavior you want.  A dog beckoning to you because you are leaving is a sign of a dog who "holds water" in the pack hierarchy.
OK Cesar Milan, lets get real I don't know anyone who's dog obeys them 100%. Lets just be realistic.

Also, if a dog is properly exercised, which in a beagles case is a TON.  These behaviors would be non existent.  The supposed howling and destructive behavior that is.
Beagles require medium exercise to keep them lean and content.  Some that Ive owned barked more than the beagle/basset mix I have now. Some times he barks when he comes home from a day in the field some times not. I agree a dog needs proper exercise so the aren't full of energy and rippin around the house. But exercise alone wont stop separation problems.

Speaking for asinine.Don't like my opinion?  It is true, sorry.  You won't convince me that a beagle who has separation anxiety is because it is a beagle.
Actually I don't really care about your opinion since its no more valid than mine. Saying a breed cant be prone to disorders be it mental or physical is metally retarded. I guess German Shepard's aren't prone to hip problems, and Dalmations aren't prone to blindness either and  Jack Russels aren't more likely to be hyper. Does that mean each Shepard will have hip issues, or your Dalmation will go blind, or the Jack Russel you buy will be hyper, no not really but they be more prone to that issue and you should be aware it could be a problem before you buy the breed.

Every time I hear someone attribute a dogs bad behavior to the breed I want to smash them in the head with a ball-peen hammer.  Ignorance, flat out ignorance.
Ignorance would be to deny that some breeds are more prone to issues than others. You seemed to miss the point totally. At no time did I say all hounds have separation issues, but I did say they tend to be more susceptible to it, thats all.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 15, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Temper temper cupcake.

You seem to be under the delusion that certain breeds dont have certain traits, some good some bad- wrong!

Separation anxiety doest depend on training to the degree that you believe it does. With my dog, I started him in a cage at 7 weeks and thats where he slept until he was a year old. We also didn't leave him at first for more than an hour at a time and gradually made our trips longer. We made sure he was properly socialized with other dogs at the park and in the neighborhood. He walks anywhere from 1-3 miles nightly as well as an off the leash scramble with his park buddys. During hunting season he  runs a few extra miles on the weekends. From time to time he may have an issue but not often.

If I read you correctly then a rotties protective trait is a result of bad breeding as is a Bouvier De Flanders desire to herd. All breeds have traits some instilled in the breed purposefully others by mistake. I don't think you can separate them at all. Obviously you try and minimize the bad ones but that doesn't mean they are the mistake of the owner/handler.

If any dog, any breed, any age, any sex, 100% OBEYS you, you can stop any unwanted behavior you want.  A dog beckoning to you because you are leaving is a sign of a dog who "holds water" in the pack hierarchy.
OK Cesar Milan, lets get real I don't know anyone who's dog obeys them 100%. Lets just be realistic.

Also, if a dog is properly exercised, which in a beagles case is a TON.  These behaviors would be non existent.  The supposed howling and destructive behavior that is.
Beagles require medium exercise to keep them lean and content.  Some that Ive owned barked more than the beagle/basset mix I have now. Some times he barks when he comes home from a day in the field some times not. I agree a dog needs proper exercise so the aren't full of energy and rippin around the house. But exercise alone wont stop separation problems.

Speaking for asinine.Don't like my opinion?  It is true, sorry.  You won't convince me that a beagle who has separation anxiety is because it is a beagle.
Actually I don't really care about your opinion since its no more valid than mine. Saying a breed cant be prone to disorders be it mental or physical is metally retarded. I guess German Shepard's aren't prone to hip problems, and Dalmations aren't prone to blindness either and  Jack Russels aren't more likely to be hyper. Does that mean each Shepard will have hip issues, or your Dalmation will go blind, or the Jack Russel you buy will be hyper, no not really but they be more prone to that issue and you should be aware it could be a problem before you buy the breed.

Every time I hear someone attribute a dogs bad behavior to the breed I want to smash them in the head with a ball-peen hammer.  Ignorance, flat out ignorance.
Ignorance would be to deny that some breeds are more prone to issues than others. You seemed to miss the point totally. At no time did I say all hounds have separation issues, but I did say they tend to be more susceptible to it, thats all.

As far as the Cesar comment goes, that is funny.  People have been doing what he's doing for years and years before he got a TV show or came to America.  Cesar thankfully has simplified and dumb-downed the approach so people can understand, and people still don't get it.  He didn't invent dog psychology.

For the rest of your post...

Yawn

Let's just hope Mindspin gets a calm submissive dog that is great around his children and up for some hike's.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 16, 2007, 09:12:24 PM
As far as the Cesar comment goes, that is funny.  People have been doing what he's doing for years and years before he got a TV show or came to America.  Cesar thankfully has simplified and dumb-downed the approach so people can understand, and people still don't get it.  He didn't invent dog psychology.

For the rest of your post...

Yawn

Let's just hope Mindspin gets a calm submissive dog that is great around his children and up for some hike's.

Well,after readin his book, I think hes a bit of an asspipe and a bit heavy handed but he does seem to get results.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 16, 2007, 09:29:49 PM
Well,after readin his book, I think hes a bit of an asspipe and a bit heavy handed but he does seem to get results.

People just think he is too physical.  When I met him he seemed very genuine and was a cool guy.  Like him or not, people should practice what he preaches.  But people are lazy, and won't.  I kind of hope he becomes as big of a part of American culture as Jack Hannah or Steve Irwin so people might listen to what he says.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: JBGRAY on September 18, 2007, 01:29:21 PM
(http://gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/bulldog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/bulldog-0038.jpg)

Have you considered an English Bulldog?  They are relatively easy to maintain, don't shed much, and are amongst the most inactive dogs one could possibly have.  It is pretty much the ideal family pet.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on September 19, 2007, 06:24:13 AM
(http://gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/bulldog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/bulldog-0038.jpg)

Have you considered an English Bulldog?  They are relatively easy to maintain, don't shed much, and are amongst the most inactive dogs one could possibly have.  It is pretty much the ideal family pet.
Great dogs! my only complaint is they dont do well outside on hot days. My wife and I have some friends that have a pair of Bullys and we hardly see them at the park from June until October. I think thats a little extream but none the less


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 19, 2007, 10:16:59 PM
Yea I think mindsopin may be a bit active for one of those. No runs for those guys! Great dogs though!


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Playboy on September 20, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
Hello pet lovers.  What breed do you think best meets this criteria:

*Good with kids
*Smart
*Medium size
*Minimal shedding/barking


What other attributes whould I be considering?
A boxer.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 20, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
Boxer would be a nice choice. If size was not a factor I also think an American bulldog of the (scott type) would be great. Johnson type are giant. You can find smaller Scott females between 60 - 70 lbs. Still might be kind of large tho.

Mindspin you look into the minature bull terrior at all? I think that could a great choice.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 20, 2007, 03:09:39 PM
Boxer would be a nice choice. If size was not a factor I also think an American bulldog of the (scott type) would be great. Johnson type are giant. You can find smaller Scott females between 60 - 70 lbs. Still might be kind of large tho.

Mindspin you look into the minature bull terrior at all? I think that could a great choice.

I have.  So far it's at the top of my list.  We're thinking of getting a dog for x-mas.  My 4yr old daughter LOVES dogs.  Seeing a puppy on x-mas morning will be the highlight of her little life :)






Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on September 20, 2007, 03:11:28 PM
I have.  So far it's at the top of my list.  We're thinking of getting a dog for x-mas.  My 4yr old daughter LOVES dogs.  Seeing a puppy on x-mas morning will be the highlight of her little life :)






That is awesome.. I can't wait till we have our Baby.. It's gonna grow up around Pits.. SO my child will be a defender of the breed just like it's father... ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: jmt1 on September 20, 2007, 04:36:17 PM
That is awesome.. I can't wait till we have our Baby.. It's gonna grow up around Pits.. SO my child will be a defender of the breed just like it's father... ;D ;D ;D

nice...they are incredible with kids...hopefully one day in the future this great breed will get its rep back as the number one family dog in america.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: soflagirl on September 21, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
A Weimaraner, they love kids, don't shed very much, they can be hard headed you would need to established that you are the boss from the start. 
They love being with their family, and are very protective of their owners.
Sounds like you have a lot of room for a dog to run and play, hiking would be great exercise for this breed. You may have heard that they are hyper, but that is only if they don't get the attention and exercise that they need. They are super sweet, intelligent, and beautiful dogs.
I can't stress this enough they are people dogs, if you don't want a dog who is going to be with you 24-7 this is not the dog for you.
If you see a six week old Wemi puppy with their big blue eyes and soft floppy hears, you will be going home with one. They may not be for everyone, but I sure love my Wemi girl!


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 21, 2007, 03:54:42 PM
A Weimaraner, they love kids, don't shed very much, they can be hard headed you would need to established that you are the boss from the start. 
They love being with their family, and are very protective of their owners.
Sounds like you have a lot of room for a dog to run and play, hiking would be great exercise for this breed. You may have heard that they are hyper, but that is only if they don't get the attention and exercise that they need. They are super sweet, intelligent, and beautiful dogs.
I can't stress this enough they are people dogs, if you don't want a dog who is going to be with you 24-7 this is not the dog for you.
If you see a six week old Wemi puppy with their big blue eyes and soft floppy hears, you will be going home with one. They may not be for everyone, but I sure love my Wemi girl!

Actually.....

that may be a smart choice for mindspin


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 21, 2007, 05:01:24 PM
A Weimaraner, they love kids, don't shed very much, they can be hard headed you would need to established that you are the boss from the start. 
They love being with their family, and are very protective of their owners.
Sounds like you have a lot of room for a dog to run and play, hiking would be great exercise for this breed. You may have heard that they are hyper, but that is only if they don't get the attention and exercise that they need. They are super sweet, intelligent, and beautiful dogs.
I can't stress this enough they are people dogs, if you don't want a dog who is going to be with you 24-7 this is not the dog for you.
If you see a six week old Wemi puppy with their big blue eyes and soft floppy hears, you will be going home with one. They may not be for everyone, but I sure love my Wemi girl!

Wow!  What a beautiful dog.  Thanks.

(http://www.hunting.net/ftb_images/Sporting%20Dog/Pointing%20Breeds/Weimaraner.jpg)

What about Airedales?

(http://www.breedersonline.co.uk/Dogs/Photos/Airedale.jpg)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 21, 2007, 05:20:58 PM
Airedales prolly have the grooming issues. 

Weimaraner's would definitely be able to hang from the exercise standpoint.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 21, 2007, 06:42:36 PM
Wow!  What a beautiful dog.  Thanks.

(http://www.hunting.net/ftb_images/Sporting%20Dog/Pointing%20Breeds/Weimaraner.jpg)

What about Airedales?

(http://www.breedersonline.co.uk/Dogs/Photos/Airedale.jpg)

you'd be better off with the weimaraner


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 21, 2007, 09:06:47 PM
you'd be better off with the weimaraner

I can never say:
 "weimaraner"
 :(


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: JBGRAY on September 21, 2007, 09:34:53 PM
I still stand by the English Bulldog, so long as you don't live in a real hot climate.  And you know, you DO begin to look like your dog after a while.

(http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: amc1980 on September 22, 2007, 04:01:32 AM
Get a Rhodesian Ridgeback:

(http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/948/15134.JPG)

You'll thank me for this advice if you're ever attacked by hungry lions!


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 22, 2007, 09:48:45 AM

I can never say:
 "weimaraner"
 :(

just call them a whiney

 ;)


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 24, 2007, 10:08:49 AM
What about Boxers?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 24, 2007, 10:10:35 AM
Get a Rhodesian Ridgeback:

(http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/948/15134.JPG)

You'll thank me for this advice if you're ever attacked by hungry lions!

Just rerad their profile...cool dogs.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 24, 2007, 10:18:45 AM
What about Boxers?

I have a friend with a boxer & also has kids

Not sure about the breed standard...but his is awesome with kids.  Great family dog.  Short hair.



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Vet on September 24, 2007, 10:34:32 AM
I have a friend with a boxer & also has kids

Not sure about the breed standard...but his is awesome with kids.  Great family dog.  Short hair.


By and large they are all good with kids, especially if they are raised with them.   

I really miss my boxer.  He was one tough, tough stubborn, bullheaded dog.   (he was the one that was stabbed repeatedly and burned over 1/3 of his body), but he was a great dog.   He wasn't the smartest member of the pack, but that was ok, he made up for it with goofiness and his personality. 


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on September 24, 2007, 10:36:56 AM
By and large they are all good with kids, especially if they are raised with them.   

I really miss my boxer.  He was one tough, tough stubborn, bullheaded dog.   (he was the one that was stabbed repeatedly and burned over 1/3 of his body), but he was a great dog.   He wasn't the smartest member of the pack, but that was ok, he made up for it with goofiness and his personality. 

WTF?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Vet on September 24, 2007, 10:44:47 AM
WTF?

When my wife and I worked for the humane society as first year veterinary students, this boxer came in as an abuse case.  He had had been found in an afluent persons back yard, dumped over a 6 foot privacy fence.  The tendons in his one hind leg were cut, he was stabbed several times and someone had caught him on fire--he had 2nd and 3rd degree burns over his the right side of his chest, neck, and onto his abdomen prior to pitching him over the fence.  Some of the burns were so deep, they left permenant scars.   My wife took care of the dog, debrided and cleaned the wounds every day, basically put him back together.  Through all of this, he just took it.  Never showed any pain, and we all knew he had to be hurting.  he was just one tough dog.    

Because he was a stray, after 21 days, when there were no leads to who did what happened to him he either had to be adopted out or euthanized.   My wife brought him home and we had him until he died (I euthanized him because of poor condition/his being near death) at approximately 13 years of age from a heart tumor (cancer of the heart---not uncommon with boxers). 

he went on to become an absolutely GREAT family pet.   You couldn't help but love his goofy, farting, slobbering, wrinkleface.   ;)   he was a great dog. 


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: soflagirl on September 24, 2007, 12:07:39 PM
Mindspin, you are welcome!
Weimaraner's are really a neat breed, they're a lot of fun! And the picture you posted shows what a gorgeous animals they are, have you seen any puppy pictures of the breed?
Boxer's are a great breed too.
I used to breed Weim's, so if you have any specific questions regarding the breed I'd be glad to answer them.
Soflagirl


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 24, 2007, 03:42:55 PM
What about Boxers?

You're pushing the limit on what you originally said about size.  Some of the info here seemed helpful.  http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/breeds/1100050/


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 24, 2007, 04:04:33 PM

You're pushing the limit on what you originally said about size.  Some of the info here seemed helpful.  http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/breeds/1100050/

boxers aren't that big


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Princess L on September 24, 2007, 08:37:01 PM
boxers aren't that big

I guess your idea of big and my idea of big are two different things.  :P


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: ~flower~ on September 25, 2007, 05:55:38 AM
I guess your idea of big and my idea of big are two different things.  :P

  I don't consider a dog big unless it is 100+ pounds.   People comment that Briona is big (she's around 80# I think) and I am like huh?  she's not big.   I guess having the Danes give me a different perspective.   ::)


 But that is a good point Princess L, big or small can be very different to people, so a weight range might be better to state.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 25, 2007, 08:52:39 AM
I would place boxers into the 'medium' class


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 25, 2007, 09:09:24 AM
Boxers are a decent sized dog.  I know nothing about them specific wise but from what I hear they take alot of exercise to really be happy and could EASILY hang with you on walks.  You have to think about while walking a dog every single day for 30-45min is ideal, if you can only walk them 2-4 times a week and one of those days in the week is a HIKE, that really carries over. 

Friends of mine have 2 Bouviers and one goes once every two weeks to herd.  Supposedly after it is done it'll pretty much sleep for a day or two.  Then again, herding is extremely physically AND mentally stimulating for a dog.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: knny187 on September 25, 2007, 09:50:05 AM
Boxers are a decent sized dog.  I know nothing about them specific wise but from what I hear they take alot of exercise to really be happy and could EASILY hang with you on walks.  You have to think about while walking a dog every single day for 30-45min is ideal, if you can only walk them 2-4 times a week and one of those days in the week is a HIKE, that really carries over. 

Friends of mine have 2 Bouviers and one goes once every two weeks to herd.  Supposedly after it is done it'll pretty much sleep for a day or two.  Then again, herding is extremely physically AND mentally stimulating for a dog.

I wouldn't think a boxer needs anymore exercise than a Labrador


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 25, 2007, 10:55:40 AM
I wouldn't think a boxer needs anymore exercise than a Labrador

I only know one person with a boxer but she is a breeder.  According to her they are quite lively.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 25, 2007, 11:45:22 AM
(http://puppydogweb.com/gallery/miniaturebullterriers/miniaturebullterrier_guerrero.jpg)

(http://www.kenronminibullterriers.com/image/27462409_scaled_599x498.jpg)


The second guy weighs 20 lbs. I am gonig to get one of these guys. It will be funny to see a 95 lb American bulldog and a 20 lb minature bull terrier.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 25, 2007, 04:59:18 PM
The mini bulls are really cool looking dogs.  Very small yet probably extremely athletic.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on September 25, 2007, 05:40:04 PM

  I don't consider a dog big unless it is 100+ pounds.   People comment that Briona is big (she's around 80# I think) and I am like huh?  she's not big.   I guess having the Danes give me a different perspective.   ::)


 But that is a good point Princess L, big or small can be very different to people, so a weight range might be better to state.

Good to know both of my boys will be pushing the big Category.. then I will change my name to SINCITYsmallGUY&2bigdogs


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: ~flower~ on September 25, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Good to know both of my boys will be pushing the big Category.. then I will change my name to SINCITYsmallGUY&2bigdogs

But SinCitysmallGu  will still be all that shows up.    ;D


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: wood on September 26, 2007, 08:00:47 AM

Reese is a Boxer/Mastiff Mix, she's pretty stubborn...see below

*Good with kids - would love to pounce on every one she sees, not the most gentle beast
*Smart - will learn almost anything with time and treats, sometimes bullheaded/stubborn
*Medium size - yep, well 65 lbs.
*Minimal shedding/barking -  she's a shedder >:(/not a barker though, thank goodness





Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MB_722 on September 26, 2007, 04:45:10 PM
get a doberman, beautiful dogs.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on September 27, 2007, 11:23:31 AM
get a doberman, beautiful dogs.

Too big, dominant for Mindspin's case.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MB_722 on September 27, 2007, 12:12:20 PM
they are good with kids. As always it depends on the environment and training.

very smart quick learners.

In my opinion I don't think they are that big.

Shed quite abit.
Barking I've met both loud and quiet dobe's so it depends. really depends on the owner. In terms of who is dominant, the owner can't be a push over, they are very receptive and know who is boss. They aren't difficult to train. 

they are always on guard for the family and house. :)

(http://umoja.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/puppy.jpg)

(http://www.altobellodobermann.com/legla/lord-male1b.jpg)

(http://www.altobellodobermann.com/galerija/kiki&ema.jpg)



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: body88 on September 28, 2007, 08:13:58 AM
they are good with kids. As always it depends on the environment and training.

very smart quick learners.

In my opinion I don't think they are that big.

Shed quite abit.
Barking I've met both loud and quiet dobe's so it depends. really depends on the owner. In terms of who is dominant, the owner can't be a push over, they are very receptive and know who is boss. They aren't difficult to train. 

they are always on guard for the family and house. :)

(http://umoja.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/puppy.jpg)

(http://www.altobellodobermann.com/legla/lord-male1b.jpg)

(http://www.altobellodobermann.com/galerija/kiki&ema.jpg)




A great dog no doubt. But considering mindspins criteria I don't think a dobe would be a good fit. Not to say they are not great with kids. They do however need a fair amount of training and are dominant dogs.


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: americanbulldog on October 06, 2007, 08:09:06 PM
Alan Scott Americanbulldog female.

Here are two of my girls.  Currently own 4, keep two at my home. 

http://members6.boardhost.com/808BULLYBOARD/msg/1182310869.html

I will post breed characteristics, things to look for and breed standard later. 



Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: MindSpin on December 02, 2007, 04:36:36 PM
What about a Tibetan terrier?  Is $1600 a fair price?


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: Lord Humungous on December 02, 2007, 06:53:49 PM
What about a Tibetan terrier?  Is $1600 a fair price?
Cool dog but thats a bit high, i would think $1000


Title: Re: What kind of dog should I get????
Post by: temper35 on December 03, 2007, 08:30:50 AM
Cool dog but thats a bit high, i would think $1000

Depends on the breeder.  Money for a dog matters in what it is worth to you.