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I remember the minute after Titus got popped, you had bodybuilding representatives going on television attempting to distance themselves (and the sport) from Craig and Kelly.
Will we see the same thing with Hide?
Granted, Craig and Kelly were done with competing, were talkikng of starting a rival federation, and were otherwised disposed with cooking things in their kitchen... but Hide was a top pro in 2007 with a bright future in 2008. He was an active pro and one of the best.
Will those same voices that cursed Craig, either curse or ignore Hideo? Or will they step up and defend him publicly?
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I remember the minute after Titus got popped, you had bodybuilding representatives going on television attempting to distance themselves (and the sport) from Craig and Kelly.
Will we see the same thing with Hide?
Granted, Craig and Kelly were done with competing, were talkikng of starting a rival federation, and were otherwised disposed with cooking things in their kitchen... but Hide was a top pro in 2007 with a bright future in 2008. He was an active pro and one of the best.
Will those same voices that cursed Craig, either curse or ignore Hideo? Or will they step up and defend him publicly?
I doubt they will do either one. First he didn't kill anybody and second why bring even more negative publicity by acknowledging it?
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I remember the minute after Titus got popped, you had bodybuilding representatives going on television attempting to distance themselves (and the sport) from Craig and Kelly.
Will we see the same thing with Hide?
Granted, Craig and Kelly were done with competing, were talkikng of starting a rival federation, and were otherwised disposed with cooking things in their kitchen... but Hide was a top pro in 2007 with a bright future in 2008. He was an active pro and one of the best.
Will those same voices that cursed Craig, either curse or ignore Hideo? Or will they step up and defend him publicly?
Come on Rob, you're smart enough to know these two aren't even remotely similar.
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Craig made some mistakes, big deal, he should be on stage again to pose for his fans.
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Come on Rob, you're smart enough to know these two aren't even remotely similar.
Obviously they're not the same, Isaac. But they're both felonies, and both men looking at prison time. Granted Hide won't get the airplay, but a nice public statement by the LOUD voices during the Titus mess would be nice. I'm guessing they'll be very quiet on this one.
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Rob are you asking whether other drug dealers/addicts will come to his aid? Why would they want the bright light of the law pointed their way?
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Rob are you asking whether other drug dealers/addicts will come to his aid? Why would they want the bright light of the law pointed their way?
I'm sure there are a few retired bodybuilders who could do nothing more than post a nice message to Hide without drawing any drama to themselves for past deeds. I hope they do. WHen an NFL player gets busted for steroids, he isn't alienated by his peers.
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Obviously they're not the same, Isaac. But they're both felonies, and both men looking at prison time. Granted Hide won't get the airplay, but a nice public statement by the LOUD voices during the Titus mess would be nice. I'm guessing they'll be very quiet on this one.
What do you expect someone to say? He messed up, he will get his day in court and shit happens.
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it would be intresting to hear from the athletes representive. bob?
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I'm sure there are a few retired bodybuilders who could do nothing more than post a nice message to Hide without drawing any drama to themselves for past deeds. I hope they do. WHen an NFL player gets busted for steroids, he isn't alienated by his peers.
So do you think Arnold is going to say something nice about him? Who the fk knows him anyway? And WHY would they?
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Craig made some mistakes, big deal, he should be on stage again to pose for his fans.
LOL!
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I remember the minute after Titus got popped, you had bodybuilding representatives going on television attempting to distance themselves (and the sport) from Craig and Kelly.
Correction: We were trying to distance ourselves LONG before they went on the lamb for murder...
Will we see the same thing with Hide?
No.
Granted, Craig and Kelly were done with competing, were talkikng of starting a rival federation, and were otherwised disposed with cooking things in their kitchen... but Hide was a top pro in 2007 with a bright future in 2008. He was an active pro and one of the best.
Kind of answered your own question...
Will those same voices that cursed Craig, either curse or ignore Hideo? Or will they step up and defend him publicly?
There's nothing to defend at the moment, all we have is an unfortunate situation which impacts no one but himself...
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Why is it "unfortunate" Bob? "Unfortunate" that he got caught? Please explain.
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Why is it "unfortunate" Bob? "Unfortunate" that he got caught? Please explain.
Geez, I don't know, unfortunate that one of our own has spent the last 3 weeks in a holding cell, away from his friends and family, in a foriegn country. Unfortunate that he is in this situation by his own hand, Unfortunate that the law is what it is, when there are bigger fish to fry out there knocking over old ladies, robbing banks shooting people to get money for heroin, crank, etc.....
Take your pick...
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Geez, I don't know, unfortunate that one of our own has spent the last 3 weeks in a holding cell, away from his friends and family, in a foriegn country. Unfortunate that he is in this situation by his own hand, Unfortunate that the law is what it is, when there are bigger fish to fry out there knocking over old ladies, robbing banks shooting people to get money for heroin, crank, etc.....
Take your pick...
I think unfortunate doesnt fit. Afortunate is better.
Afortunate that the law is here to bring some JUSTICE and judge criminilas like titus.
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thanks for responding Bob.
How had you attempted to distance yourself from Craig before the murders?
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thanks for responding Bob.
How had you attempted to distance yourself from Craig before the murders?
You already mentioned it...as he was (allegedly) trying to form his own federation...they basically distanced themselves. THat said, anyone who seen Craig in person can attest that he was cracked out...
I didn't have to distance myself as we were never friends in the first place, and had our share of run-ins over the years...
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You already mentioned it...as he was (allegedly) trying to form his own federation...they basically distanced themselves. THat said, anyone who seen Craig in person can attest that he was cracked out...
I didn't have to distance myself as we were never friends in the first place, and had our share of run-ins over the years...
Good enough. Props for addressing it.
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Can someone tell me exactly what drugs Hide had in his possession at the time?
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Can someone tell me exactly what drugs Hide had in his possession at the time?
No, it wasn't disclosed..
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Chick, you must know you are the IFBB athletes rep and if you don't know now will soon.
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Geez, I don't know, unfortunate that one of our own has spent the last 3 weeks in a holding cell, away from his friends and family, in a foriegn country. Unfortunate that he is in this situation by his own hand, Unfortunate that the law is what it is, when there are bigger fish to fry out there knocking over old ladies, robbing banks shooting people to get money for heroin, crank, etc.....
Take your pick...
Your definition of unfortunate is twisted. The guy committed a crime. Let him sit there.
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Your definition of unfortunate is twisted. The guy committed a crime. Let him sit there.
Agreed. Though there are varying degrees of criminal activity, you cannot dismiss the fact that Hidetada still commited a crime. I guess since he didn't kill anyone, it's okay to have posession of illegal substances, huh Bob?
Also, what a good role model to young kids. It's wrong to kill someone, but it's okay to posess illegal substance. Quite a contradictory statement. Both are a crime!
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It's wrong to kill someone, but it's okay to posess illegal substance. Quite a contradictory statement.
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Also, what a good role model to young kids. It's wrong to kill someone, but it's okay to posess illegal substance. Quite a contradictory statement. Both are a crime!
so by attending a bodybuilding contest, you must be condoning illegal activity.
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he got caught with drugs, he should be punished like anyone else would, who gives a shit if he's an ifbb pro, if he was smart he wouldn't carry the shit onto an airplane, be interesting to see him when he gets out, bet he'll be all of 175 pounds
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so by attending a bodybuilding contest, you must be condoning illegal activity.
Interesting logic, but anyone with a brain in their head would know the difference between trying to smuggle illegal substances through an airport and sitting in an audience watching a contest!
No one would mind a young person attending a bodybuilding show, but I am sure many would mind a 16 year old kid trying to get steroids past an airport security system. Hopefully, one can know the difference or be explained the differences by the appropriate role models!
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I can also remember when I read about Craig and Kelly being charged for murder.I wouldn't be all that surprised if the bodybuilding world abandon Yamagishi.
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so by attending a bodybuilding contest, you must be condoning illegal activity.
Also, I guess we should take all the 6 year old kids out of little league baseball because in the MLB they use illegal substances and a 6 year old playing babseball is condoning the use of steroids huh? LOL
Sorry, you used poor logic......
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Also, I guess we should take all the 6 year old kids out of little league baseball because in the MLB they use illegal substances and a 6 year old playing babseball is condoning the use of steroids huh? LOL
Sorry, you used poor logic......
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great point...might as well boy cot the olympics too, those track and field athletes are the biggest bunch of gear heads walking around
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great point...might as well boy cot the olympics too, those track and field athletes are the biggest bunch of gear heads walking around
EXACTLY!!! and since track and field stars use steroids, next time you run down the street or jump, you are CONDONING steroids in track and field! LOL
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anyone with a brain in their head would know the difference between...
It's wrong to kill someone, but it's okay to posess illegal substance. Quite a contradictory statement.
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Difficult to comprehend, huh? :)
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Difficult to comprehend, huh? :)
Not if you're a simpleton, apparently. ;D
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he got caught with drugs, he should be punished like anyone else would, who gives a shit if he's an ifbb pro, if he was smart he wouldn't carry the shit onto an airplane, be interesting to see him when he gets out, bet he'll be all of 175 pounds
he'll probably have a nice case of bitch tits too
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Not if you're a simpleton, apparently. ;D
LOL :) ;D
Ya know, I just had to get the point across to Bob. HE, obviously does not know the difference :)
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Geez, I don't know, unfortunate that one of our own has spent the last 3 weeks in a holding cell, away from his friends and family, in a foriegn country. Unfortunate that he is in this situation by his own hand, Unfortunate that the law is what it is, when there are bigger fish to fry out there knocking over old ladies, robbing banks shooting people to get money for heroin, crank, etc.....
Take your pick...
Additionally Bob, the only reason people shoot others for heroin and crank is because the prices are artificially high due to this war on drugs to begin with. The bigger fish to fry are truly those who commit crimes against liberty which you outlined above. Not drugs, and certainly not steroids! :)
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he got caught with drugs, he should be punished like anyone else would, who gives a shit if he's an ifbb pro, if he was smart he wouldn't carry the shit onto an airplane, be interesting to see him when he gets out, bet he'll be all of 175 pounds
You're a fucking dumbass.
Hide shooting test doesn't really hurt society, while a crackhead robbing people for money does. It's not the same.
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I don't believe bodybuilding will abandon you. The federation doesn't make you take drugs in an airport, that's more your own choice than theirs. (how fucking stupid when you're an obvious juicer)
Anyways hope he gets out soon county jail is terrible.
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If you look like Hidetada and are carrying steroids around, you DESERVE to get caught! Especially, carrying them through an airport. Oh, GEEZ. He might as well worn a sign on his back saying "look, I am bodybuilder, please check my bags for illegal substances."
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he'll unfortunately be discarded and someone else will take his place.
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he'll unfortunately be discarded and someone else will take his place.
kinda of crazy but......could this bode well for lee priest?
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kinda of crazy but......could this bode well for lee priest?
IFBB wont have Lee back any time soon IMO. Lee's got too much baggage, should for example Lee be re-admitted and then not place as well as he likes such as a close second place, he'll rant and rave that he was overlooked because of his previous run-ins.
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LOL :) ;D
Ya know, I just had to get the point across to Bob. HE, obviously does not know the difference :)
Bob is one of those guys that if he got caught with the drugs he obviously takes would say that he "made a mistake" and shouldn't suffer the wrath of the law. Plain and simple--Hide took and known risk and lost. Now its time to pay the price. It is neither unfortunate nor unfair.
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Seriously
Im tired to see people here trying to find a reason to forgive hide, we should be sending emails to los angeles county sheriff's department, asking them to leave hide @ jail for a year or so, so people think twice about doing the same hide did.
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Seriously
Im tired to see people here trying to find a reason to forgive hide, we should be sending emails to los angeles county sheriff's department, asking them to leave hide @ jail for a year or so, so people think twice about doing the same hide did.
haha, yes, let's get a posse together and break him out so we can string him up from the highest tree. hahaha, fun for all.
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If you look like Hidetada and are carrying steroids around, you DESERVE to get caught! Especially, carrying them through an airport. Oh, GEEZ. He might as well worn a sign on his back saying "look, I am bodybuilder, please check my bags for illegal substances."
what's really unfortunate is that nobody warned him about his obvious unusual appearance that brought attention to himself at customs. but it was his narcissistic arrogance that tripped him up.
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Seriously
Im tired to see people here trying to find a reason to forgive hide, we should be sending emails to los angeles county sheriff's department, asking them to leave hide @ jail for a year or so, so people think twice about doing the same hide did.
Santa shit in your stocking this year?
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does any rules of IFBB apply here........ i guess not, vic was on stage last year!
they have rules, but its just to make them look good, right?
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Santa shit in your stocking this year?
Go and take some pics of him @ jail
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yeah, maybe he'll be on MSNBC one of these nights during their prison shows
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so by attending emcee-ing a bodybuilding contest, you must be condoning illegal activity.
fixed!
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he should have set his mother up as the mule instead of taking the risk himself.
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he got caught with drugs, he should be punished like anyone else would, who gives a shit if he's an ifbb pro, if he was smart he wouldn't carry the shit onto an airplane, be interesting to see him when he gets out, bet he'll be all of 175 pounds
he wont be 175lb he will be more on the zone of 150-165lb clean past the 2 year mark with no hormones in body,,hes a small petite guy and doesnt have the capability to hold size,,175 is hormonized for him especially at single digit anything
secondly,,you dont put bonds of 180k on anyone unless it is really bordering risk for society as in distributer and most likley not only testoerone vial,,,the 100k bond is usually kept for dealer of narcotics and painkillers or heavy users of narcotics and pain killer,,
180k bond = ghb level offenses,,you dont get no 180k bonds unless youre a criminal,,also if he ws illegal he would be kicked out if the united states with no court and no nothing,,he would be put on airplane with out even paying a dime and taken back to japan to get rid of him for good 7 years because he would be bann from coming back to usa for 7 years,,so it is not an illegal case situation and those cases can only be approached and taken care of if you got good some money
holding someon 3 weeks in cstody and 180k bond is more than likley distributer level and the reason to catch him is little airplane episode but theres more behind it,,
get it in yuor head ,,no one would go after milos for 1 vial of testosterone,,no one would go after palumbo for 1 fake package of chinease hgh,,those guys are hand and feet deep in illegal activities and pay the price,,
palumbo and valentino are 2 at the tio of the top that brought bodybuilding down in the 2000s,,in my opinion palumbo should be banned for life from any activity in bodybuilding,,,infact md should not hire this people because they will get busted some way or another ,,they hire and evolve around fellons! dont go cry gh15 didnt warm you in 2009 ,,,drop the fellons ,,,there are good clean way to use hormones,,drop the fellons!
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You already mentioned it...as he was (allegedly) trying to form his own federation...they basically distanced themselves. THat said, anyone who seen Craig in person can attest that he was cracked out...
I didn't have to distance myself as we were never friends in the first place, and had our share of run-ins over the years...
craig was cracked out...ok. how often was he featured in Flex and M&F while he was "cracked out"....seems to me everything was fine as long as he was good looking and could be used to sell magazines.....
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he wont be 175lb he will be more on the zone of 150-165lb clean past the 2 year mark with no hormones in body,,hes a small petite guy and doesnt have the capability to hold size,,175 is hormonized for him especially at single digit anything
secondly,,you dont put bonds of 180k on anyone unless it is really bordering risk for society as in distributer and most likley not only testoerone vial,,,the 100k bond is usually kept for dealer of narcotics and painkillers or heavy users of narcotics and pain killer,,
180k bond = ghb level offenses,,you dont get no 180k bonds unless youre a criminal,,also if he ws illegal he would be kicked out if the united states with no court and no nothing,,he would be put on airplane with out even paying a dime and taken back to japan to get rid of him for good 7 years because he would be bann from coming back to usa for 7 years,,so it is not an illegal case situation and those cases can only be approached and taken care of if you got good some money
holding someon 3 weeks in cstody and 180k bond is more than likley distributer level and the reason to catch him is little airplane episode but theres more behind it,,
get it in yuor head ,,no one would go after milos for 1 vial of testosterone,,no one would go after palumbo for 1 fake package of chinease hgh,,those guys are hand and feet deep in illegal activities and pay the price,,
palumbo and valentino are 2 at the tio of the top that brought bodybuilding down in the 2000s,,in my opinion palumbo should be banned for life from any activity in bodybuilding,,,infact md should not hire this people because they will get busted some way or another ,,they hire and evolve around fellons! dont go cry gh15 didnt warm you in 2009 ,,,drop the fellons ,,,there are good clean way to use hormones,,drop the fellons!
You said everthing i was thinking,He probaly turned up to customs with 50 pound suitcase full of gear.
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when you see a pro bodybuilder these days...everybody thinks illegal controlled substances. that's reality.
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Craig made some mistakes, big deal, he should be on stage again to pose for his fans.
Made some mistakes? Like, oh, burning his car up.
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With a body in the trunk?
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Geez, I don't know, unfortunate that one of our own has spent the last 3 weeks in a holding cell, away from his friends and family, in a foriegn country. Unfortunate that he is in this situation by his own hand, Unfortunate that the law is what it is, when there are bigger fish to fry out there knocking over old ladies, robbing banks shooting people to get money for heroin, crank, etc.....
Take your pick...
and walking through an airport check out with illegal drugs is a good thing?
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and walking through an airport check out with illegal drugs is a good thing?
To many here (including ron himself) doesnt look like smth bad
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check out to what was in the vials or tablets,,200k usually = ghb,,pain killers,,legit gh,,duretics
if it was only legality issue he would have been in his hotel room or in milos house,,hes in because its narcotics most likley or some form of painkillers in bulk and gh,,1 vial of test 10 vials of test do not get you in prison for so long and 200k ,,1 vials of testostrone dont make all your buddies stay as far from you as japan is from america,,
no one help here,,and some people with big money could have ,,some people with connection could have let him be house arrest or even free and gone from usa on misdemeaner ,,this got to be ghb gh pain killer at that level