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David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
Here is the e-mail address of the CO of the base where he is stationed. He welcomes input.
KBAZ_HQBN_CGMAIL@usmc.mil
Report it to CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/fo ...
Report it to PETA
http://www.peta.org/about/c-email_peta.asp
David Motari's bebo/myspace, the bebo contains photo galleries
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?... ...
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?Membe... ...
David Motari's sister Ashley bebo/myspace
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?Membe... ...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?... ...
David Motari's brother Nolan, has similar picture to David's myspace profile
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?Membe... ...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?... ...
David Motari's sister Kathleen
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?Membe...
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what a sick idiot.
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Holy f*ck that's cold-blooded!
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fbi.gov
doubt they'd give a shit though
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he could have thrown an iraqi off a cliff and I would have laughed.
this isn't cool though.
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fucking US soldiers are the real terrorists. Hope someone throws him off a cliff and see how much he laughs.
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i fukn hate this shit.....what a prick...
if his CO has said he has to get rid of it or sumfin then he always has options ffs
a bullet to the head is far better than that shit.....makes my fukn blood boil
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Although I do think there are MUCH more serious issues that need attention, that was kind of sick.
What was the point of it?
Adonis, seriously though, Is this the type of "criminal behavior" we want to be expending energy towards?
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he deserves to die
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Although I do think there are MUCH more serious issues that need attention, that was kind of sick.
What was the point of it?
Adonis, seriously though, Is this the type of "criminal behavior" we want to be expending energy towards?
Animals can`t speak for themselves. We must speak for them.
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Why do you live in this country?
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What a fucking prick.
I would seriously like to knock that assholes teeth down his throat
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he should be dealt with as a civilian and sorted the fuk out....
they should make an example of him coz he thinks hes untouchable coz hes not a civvy
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An Article is redneck sister did on him....
http://my.highschooljournalism.org/wa/monroe/mhs/article.cfm?eid=4390&aid=63532
Once a Marine, Always a Marine
By Kathleen Motari (sister)
(http://my.highschooljournalism.org/data/news_images/mar.jpg)
“Semper Fidelis!” If you didn’t know, that saying is the United States Marine Corps (USMC) motto, which they usually shorten down to “Semper Fi.” Their motto means, Always Faithful. This describes our Marines all the way.
The Marine Corps emblem is the eagle, globe, and anchor. The eagle represents service to the country, the globe represents worldwide service, and the anchor represents sea traditions.
The colors of the USMC are scarlet and gold. The USMC is very famous for the fact that they have never resorted to a full, large-scale retreat. GO MARINES! A lot of people mistake Marines for the
Army.
The Marines are different in a lot of ways. They also work close to the Navy. The USMC use all the elements in combat (air, ground, & sea). They have a creed stating, “Every Marine a Rifleman.” The reason for that creed is because when you’re a Marine it doesn’t matter if you’re male or female; the first training you go through is training for riflemen.
The Marines may be all about work but they have fun as well. A graduate from MHS joined the Marines right out of high school. They were stationed in Hawaii doing missions up in the mountains when they got hungry. They came out of the woods and found a house and took down the address to call a pizza place. The delivery man didn’t want to come all the way up there because it was really far. Finally they convinced him to. The Marines waited in the trees and bushes until the pizza man came. When the delivery man pulled up, all the Marines jumped out of the bushes with their face paint on and their guns. The pizza man was too scared to get out of the car! They gave him an extra tip for going through the hassle to go that far. So after, they hopped back in the bushes and ate their pizza!
It’s really hard for families out there who have sons or daughters in the Marines. Asking a mother what it’s like to be a mother of a marine she said, “There’s a fear that your son may come home in a casket, and there’s pride that he’s chosen to serve an honorable position and that he’s fighting for his country.” When a sophomore from MHS, Monica Lever, was interviewed what it’s like to have a brother in the Marines she replied, “My grandpa and my dad were both in the Corps. When my cousin and brother joined, I was very proud. It’s an unexplainable feeling.” When asked how it changed the way she felt about the Corps and America she stated, “I was always a patriotic person but when I went to my brother’s graduation from boot camp and saw all those dedicated men; I realized that the majority would be shipped off to Iraq. It made me respect them way more because men as young as eighteen are leaving their families to fight the war on terrorism. I realized how brave they were to make it through boot camp with the intimidating DI’s (drill instructor’s) and how much work they did to earn the title of a United States Marine. Remember and honor all men and women (“The Few, The Proud”) in uniform.”
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An Article is redneck sister did on him....
http://my.highschooljournalism.org/wa/monroe/mhs/article.cfm?eid=4390&aid=63532
Once a Marine, Always a Marine
By Kathleen Motari (sister)
(http://my.highschooljournalism.org/data/news_images/mar.jpg)
“Semper Fidelis!” If you didn’t know, that saying is the United States Marine Corps (USMC) motto, which they usually shorten down to “Semper Fi.” Their motto means, Always Faithful. This describes our Marines all the way.
The Marine Corps emblem is the eagle, globe, and anchor. The eagle represents service to the country, the globe represents worldwide service, and the anchor represents sea traditions.
The colors of the USMC are scarlet and gold. The USMC is very famous for the fact that they have never resorted to a full, large-scale retreat. GO MARINES! A lot of people mistake Marines for the
Army.
The Marines are different in a lot of ways. They also work close to the Navy. The USMC use all the elements in combat (air, ground, & sea). They have a creed stating, “Every Marine a Rifleman.” The reason for that creed is because when you’re a Marine it doesn’t matter if you’re male or female; the first training you go through is training for riflemen.
The Marines may be all about work but they have fun as well. A graduate from MHS joined the Marines right out of high school. They were stationed in Hawaii doing missions up in the mountains when they got hungry. They came out of the woods and found a house and took down the address to call a pizza place. The delivery man didn’t want to come all the way up there because it was really far. Finally they convinced him to. The Marines waited in the trees and bushes until the pizza man came. When the delivery man pulled up, all the Marines jumped out of the bushes with their face paint on and their guns. The pizza man was too scared to get out of the car! They gave him an extra tip for going through the hassle to go that far. So after, they hopped back in the bushes and ate their pizza!
It’s really hard for families out there who have sons or daughters in the Marines. Asking a mother what it’s like to be a mother of a marine she said, “There’s a fear that your son may come home in a casket, and there’s pride that he’s chosen to serve an honorable position and that he’s fighting for his country.” When a sophomore from MHS, Monica Lever, was interviewed what it’s like to have a brother in the Marines she replied, “My grandpa and my dad were both in the Corps. When my cousin and brother joined, I was very proud. It’s an unexplainable feeling.” When asked how it changed the way she felt about the Corps and America she stated, “I was always a patriotic person but when I went to my brother’s graduation from boot camp and saw all those dedicated men; I realized that the majority would be shipped off to Iraq. It made me respect them way more because men as young as eighteen are leaving their families to fight the war on terrorism. I realized how brave they were to make it through boot camp with the intimidating DI’s (drill instructor’s) and how much work they did to earn the title of a United States Marine. Remember and honor all men and women (“The Few, The Proud”) in uniform.”
IMO Adonis you should bring your full powers to bear on this heartless scumbag.
That was disgusting to watch
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Thats really not cool, putting his fucking address up there?
also..who cares its a fucking dog
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http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3042738902
(http://i1.bebo.com/032b/12/mediuml/2007/08/06/21/3042738902a5202698882ml.jpg)
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That is fucking sick.
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Animals can`t speak for themselves. We must speak for them.
Ahh yes but do you not remember the truth about Social Darwinism?
I love animals as much as the next guy, but only the strong survive.
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IMO Adonis you should bring your full powers to bear on this heartless scumbag.
That was disgusting to watch
Indeed.
You will see this on the national news VERY shortly.
Also,
Send these vids,links, etc... to everyone and anyone you know.
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Ahh yes but do you not remember the truth about Social Darwinism?
I love animals as much as the next guy, but only the strong survive.
Dude, there's a difference between an animal getting killed by a stronger predator in the wild and an asswipe doing something so heartless just to impress another POS who laughs cause he thinks that's the right thing to do ::)
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Sick girl!!!!
Already posted your message in a couple of forums Adam.
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Although I do think there are MUCH more serious issues that need attention, that was kind of sick.
What was the point of it?
Adonis, seriously though, Is this the type of "criminal behavior" we want to be expending energy towards?
when a man will show such wanton cruelty toward a creature incapable of defending itself, what does that tell you about him? worse still, about others who may be like him, who are currently being given the responsibility of defending and, in many ways, representing our nation?
that video makes me sick to my stomach and makes my blood boil.
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Article 134...General Article
Unbecoming of a Marine.
It's punishable by the UCMJ
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wow... adonis is on a good cause here.
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That video was so disturbing, that it, in fact, made me want to post twice on this thread.
Here are a few extra thoughts/reasons to throw on the table...
(1) What he did is fucking sick and someone should kick the living shit out of him for killing a defenseless animal, which posed no harm to him, that most people would see as man's best friend.
(2) On the flip side of the coin, what makes it so disturbing is that it indeed is a small puppy, with a sad little face, who moments before he is flung to his death can be heard whimpering and crying.. That being said, we kill hundreds of chickens, cows and pigs each day in order to keep our supermarkets stacked with good food to fuel our bodybuilding endeavors. Why we don't make a case for those animals as well is beyond me? Have you ever heard or seen a pig just as he is being put to death? It is a very, very sad sight. So while we criticize this knucklehead for committing such a horrible act, are we also accomplices to mass murder of chickens, cows and pigs due to our fueling that industry?
(3) Maybe and a big maybe, he was looking to get court marshaled and thought that if he and his boys filmed that little episode the military would catch that and deem him unfit to be at the lines with other soldiers. Call it some sort of psychological trauma that he can try to peg as to why he shouldn't be there, I don't know. But maybe he figured that the most he can get hit with is a month or two serving time in a military prison and then sent home to his family, somewhat of a win-win situation if it indeed works.
(4) He is just another cruel and deranged soldier that just wants to kill anything in sight that isn't wearing a uniform..
Someone chime in here,
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War seems to bring these types of scumfucky people together. I hope we can avenge the life of the puppy through these contacts.
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when a man will show such wanton cruelty toward a creature incapable of defending itself, what does that tell you about him? worse still, about others who may be like him, who are currently being given the responsibility of defending and, in many ways, representing our nation?
that video makes me sick to my stomach and makes my blood boil.
Very true - this guy is a lunatic.
Bad karma for him - he will pay.
Good work Adonis! 8)
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I hope he gets thrown off a cliff.
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Very true - this guy is a lunatic.
Bad karma for him - he will pay.
Good work Adonis! 8)
so very true...karmas a bitch..
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I'm not justifying the guys actions, I in fact think that it was pretty fucked up, but it's pretty easy to sit back and talk shit about how evil someone is for doing something like that but on the other hand have no idea what these guys go through on a daily basis. Essentially you have to disconnect your emotions, in fact shut them off completely, when are you in combat. Otherwise it could cost you or more importantly other soldiers lives. These guys have been over there getting shot at on a daily basis, close friends getting blown to shreds by IEDs, it's war, plain and simple and unless you've been in it you have no idea what these guys go through.
Again, I'm not justifying what the guy did, but just take a look at it from a different perspective.
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HEY BITCH DO YOUR DEAD LIFT VIDEO!
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I'm not justifying the guys actions, I in fact think that it was pretty fucked up, but it's pretty easy to sit back and talk shit about how evil someone is for doing something like that but on the other hand have no idea what these guys go through on a daily basis. Essentially you have to disconnect your emotions, in fact shut them off completely, when are you in combat. Otherwise it could cost you or more importantly other soldiers lives. These guys have been over there getting shot at on a daily basis, close friends getting blown to shreds by IEDs, it's war, plain and simple and unless you've been in it you have no idea what these guys go through.
Again, I'm not justifying what the guy did, but just take a look at it from a different perspective.
So animal torture is a normal unwinding, leisure activity when one becomes a soldier?
General Patton himself, would have this guy court-marshalled without a blink.
There is no excuse for this at all.
It would do good to have an Army of intelligence rather than the ever-burgeoning stain we have now. The Armed forces used to be filled with men of honor, sadly, not really anymore.
The military should be restored to its once had glory.
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Like I said, I wasn't justifying his actions, I agree it was fucked up. But these guys are at war and unless you've been there it's pretty fucking easy to sit in your office chair championing the plight of innocent puppies.
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HEY BITCH DO YOUR DEAD LIFT VIDEO!
lmao ;D
on topic: thats fucked up for sure but isn't there worse things to be concerned about than some puppy being killed in Iraq or whatever.
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I can see public shooting spree / suicide in the future for this guy. That's how most potential mass murderers start. Being in the military he is probably now on the watch list.
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I'm not justifying the guys actions, I in fact think that it was pretty fucked up, but it's pretty easy to sit back and talk shit about how evil someone is for doing something like that but on the other hand have no idea what these guys go through on a daily basis. Essentially you have to disconnect your emotions, in fact shut them off completely, when are you in combat. Otherwise it could cost you or more importantly other soldiers lives. These guys have been over there getting shot at on a daily basis, close friends getting blown to shreds by IEDs, it's war, plain and simple and unless you've been in it you have no idea what these guys go through.
Again, I'm not justifying what the guy did, but just take a look at it from a different perspective.
so he was in hand to paw combat with that puppy?
He shouldn't be over there if that is how he deals with the pressure.
I'd think it'd be the opposite, when you've seen a lot of shit, you would cherish even more something simple like a puppy.
The guy deserves whatever he gets, at the very least a dishonorable discharge and some help for his sadistic behavior
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fucking US soldiers are the real terrorists. Hope someone throws him off a cliff and see how much he laughs.
Yeah because throwing a puppy off a cliff is the same as cutting heads off of people.
If I got the chance I would beat the shit out you. Your a pussy.
With that said.....
I hope that guy gets what he deserves. If he was in my unit he would be in for an ass stomping.
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fuccking scumbag, he should be hung upside down and beaten with a baseball bat.
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I'd think it'd be the opposite, when you've seen a lot of shit, you would cherish even more something innocent like a puppy.
Excellent point, slightly fixed.
I think that it's the separating point between good people and bad.
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what a fucking piece of shit >:(
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Yeah because throwing a puppy off a cliff is the same as cutting heads off of people.
Get off the board, simpleton.
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Well, what would stop him from thinking about throwing a child over a cliff?
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So animal torture is a normal unwinding, leisure activity when one becomes a soldier?
General Patton himself, would have this guy court-marshalled without a blink.
There is no excuse for this at all.
It would do good to have an Army of intelligence rather than the ever-burgeoning stain we have now. The Armed forces used to be filled with men of honor, sadly, not really anymore.
The military should be restored to its once had glory.
are you speaking from first hand knowledge or just ignorant bliss....i am not justifying what happened but still in all like emm said you dont know what its like till youve been there...
i hope that prick comes home with no arms or legs !
you should just shut the hell up...!!
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poor dog
what a sick guy, he should die
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The Army's Michael Vick.
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Like I said, I wasn't justifying his actions, I agree it was fucked up. But these guys are at war and unless you've been there it's pretty fucking easy to sit in your office chair championing the plight of innocent puppies.
very well put emm and like usual i agree with what your saying..
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The Army's Michael Vick.
he's worse than Vick.
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are you speaking from first hand knowledge or just ignorant bliss....i am not justifying what happened but still in all like emm said you dont know what its like till youve been there...
I have dick wad & there's no excuse for animal torture
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I have dick wad & there's no excuse for animal torture
and as i stated im not justifying what he did or saying that it was right in any extent and every way possible it was wrong and karma is a bitch but as emm said it is very easy for everybody here that hasnt been there to sit in their desk chair and pass judgement...are you still in knny?
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Article 134...General Article
Unbecoming of a Marine.
It's punishable by the UCMJ
Absolutely it is and he will be dealt with.
So animal torture is a normal unwinding, leisure activity when one becomes a soldier?
General Patton himself, would have this guy court-marshalled without a blink.
There is no excuse for this at all.
It would do good to have an Army of intelligence rather than the ever-burgeoning stain we have now. The Armed forces used to be filled with men of honor, sadly, not really anymore.
The military should be restored to its once had glory.
Yeah and this is coming from some skinny little stain that probably never even served in the military. True Anus go wash your self off the sidewalk.
The military will deal harshly with this douche bag for throwing that puppy off the cliff. This guy should be kicked out of the Marine Corps. He does not represent the USMC at all. But for TA to sum up the whole military as having no men of honor is just ridiculous. This kind of shit really pisses me off. We have some of the most honorable men and women in the world in our military today and they are no different than any man or woman before them. I salute our military. I hold up my middle finger for you TA. You come on here trying to act so intelligent and all, but comments like this show us how dumb you really are.
Yes, why do you live in this great land TA?
Also Emmortal is correct, you have no idea the stress these guys encounter an a daily basis unless you've been there. however it is still no excuse for this type behavior, as he stated.
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Absolutely it is and he will be dealt with.
Yeah and this is coming from some skinny little stain that probably never even served in the military. True Anus go wash your self off the sidewalk.
The military will deal harshly with this douche bag for throwing that puppy off the cliff. This guy should be kicked out of the Marine Corps. He does not represent the USMC at all. But for TA to sum up the whole military as having no men of honor is just ridiculous. This kind of shit really pisses me off. We have some of the most honorable men and women in the world in our military today and they are no different than any man or woman before them. I salute our military. I hold up my middle finger for you TA. You come on here trying to act so intelligent and all, but comments like this show us how dumb you really are.
Yes, why do you live in this great land TA?
Also Emmortal is correct, you have no idea the stress these guys encounter an a daily basis unless you've been there. however it is still no excuse for this type behavior, as he stated.
yes he probably will be dealt and charged with article 134 which is as someone already said is a general catch all article and be hit with conduct unbecoming of a marine and discharged with a general discharge under less than honorable conditions at the best...thank you 4ad for speaking on the behalf of myself and many other fine men and women who serve their country
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This is probably an auto-response, but it appears they are taking it seriously:
We recently learned of the video that you referenced in your email and are
in the process of investigating the matter. The behavior depicted in this
video does not meet the high standards we expect of every Marine, and if
this is our Marine we will take appropriate action. The vast majority of
Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings credit to
the Marine Corps and to the United States.
Very Respectfully,
Rick
GS12 Richard Kirby
Staff Secretary
Office of the Commanding Officer
Marine Corps Base Hawaii
Box 63002
MCBH Kaneohe Bay HI 96863-3002
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that sick shit has me sweating i am so pissed....i would love to chuck that homo off that cliff
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yes he probably will be dealt and charged with article 134 which is as someone already said is a general catch all article and be hit with conduct unbecoming of a marine and discharged with a general discharge under less than honorable conditions at the best...thank you 4ad for speaking on the behalf of myself and many other fine men and women who serve their country
Absolutely I spent 6 years with the Marine Corps! 1/9 baby!
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I can't bring myself to watch the video, the replys on this thread are painting a vivid enough picture. :-[
I hope somebody beats that ass-hat to within an inch of his life. >:(
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that sick shit has me sweating i am so pissed....i would love to chuck that #### off that cliff
that would't be anywhere near harsh enough a punishment for him.
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that would't be anywhere near harsh enough a punishment for him.
Whats even fucking worse is the puppies paws are tied up with zip ties, the little prick obviously planned the whole thing, wasnt like he picked it up and just decided to throw.
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and as i stated im not justifying what he did or saying that it was right in any extent and every way possible it was wrong and karma is a bitch but as emm said it is very easy for everybody here that hasnt been there to sit in their desk chair and pass judgement...are you still in knny?
All Americans that are sitting in a desk chair or serving our country overseas/conus have a right to express an opinion or pass judgement. We're not passing judgement if he's doing his job correctly as a Marine or his duty/devotion to his country....we're saying that animal abuse is bullshit no matter where he is at the moment. This is unbecoming of a Marine. His NCO's, Superior Officer's, your Congressmen/women, & the President of the United States will not tolerate this kind of behavior.
According to a 1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) and Northeastern University, animal abusers are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes than are individuals without a history of animal abuse. (not exactly what we need in the military or in Iraq)
Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.
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Do the news outlets have this clip, or is this an internet thing only?
This needs to be a big deal in the media...
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Do the news outlets have this clip, or is this an internet thing only?
This needs to be a big deal in the media...
Honestly, although I hear ya....& know what you mean.....
but i don't agree.
This sort of thing can just add more shit to a big problem over there. Especially civilian support for the military.
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I hope that fucker die >:(
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turns out this isn't that uncommon in Iraq and Afghanistan
here's more videos
Soldiers blow up dog, find it funny
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822)
soldiers blow up another dog, find it funny
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1)
Here is a bbc docu. where a soldier kills a dog, a longer version exist, shows the dogs owner coming out visibly upset, nothing he can do, he has a heavily armed invading army in his backyard.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY& (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY&)
Soldiers, tormenting a dog...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM)
Soldiers shoot another dog
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511)
Soldiers throw grenade at sheepherder/sheep and find it funny
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI& (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI&)
Soldier shoots yet another dog
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb)
scaring an injured puppy repeatedly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk)
blowing up a kitten and cheering
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1)
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Honestly, although I hear ya....& know what you mean.....
but i don't agree.
This sort of thing can just add more shit to a big problem over there. Especially civilian support for the military.
it leaves me wondering if any of the major american news agencies will carry this story considering how split a majority of americans feel about the military occupation of iraq.
i'll be curious to see how this plays out in the media, if it does at all.
i'm 50/50 that it will not garner any attention whatsoever, sadly.
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the original CNN/HEADLINE NEWS link doesnt work.
this one will...
http://edition1.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/breaking.news.html
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turns out this isn't that uncommon in Iraq and Afghanistan
here's more videos
Soldiers blow up dog, find it funny
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822)
soldiers blow up another dog, find it funny
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1)
Here is a bbc docu. where a soldier kills a dog, a longer version exist, shows the dogs owner coming out visibly upset, nothing he can do, he has a heavily armed invading army in his backyard.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY& (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY&)
Soldiers, tormenting a dog...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM)
Soldiers shoot another dog
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511)
Soldiers throw grenade at sheepherder/sheep and find it funny
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI& (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI&)
Soldier shoots yet another dog
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb)
scaring an injured puppy repeatedly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk)
blowing up a kitten and cheering
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1)
Im speechless, we now with the civilian deathtoll plus these videos look worse than Saddam ever did, talk about Irony.
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i contacted that SCUMBAG soliders CO and received this letter back:
We recently learned of the video that you referenced in your email and are
in the process of investigating the matter. The behavior depicted in this
video does not meet the high standards we expect of every Marine, and if
this is our Marine we will take appropriate action. The vast majority of
Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings credit to
the Marine Corps and to the United States.
Very Respectfully,
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That's cool man. Good of you to that!
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Given we have so many 280 lb (@ 4% bf) MMA fighters posting here in Getbig, maybe someone living in Washington or nearby can pay this POS a visit and crack his skull open or maybe break his back, so that he spends the rest of his life in a wheelchair.
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Im speechless, we now with the civilian deathtoll plus these videos look worse than Saddam ever did, talk about Irony.
I haven't watched any of these and probably won't as I love animals and have a dog and cat as pets.
You are right though, I don't think we can ever do what Saddam did, but we are getting there.
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That's the most noble way U.S. spreads democracy around the world. Any country should welcome such fine liberators. Why is it that some people don't like the U.S. and its army? ???
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what really surprise me is how the people fiming and watching him in person kill that dog could have thought it would sound fun, cool, to do it.
What goes trhought these people minds? how can they be dumb enough to put it on youtube?
are they stupid?
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yes he probably will be dealt and charged with article 134 which is as someone already said is a general catch all article and be hit with conduct unbecoming of a marine
Actually, it's a good thing he's in the military, since if the video depicted a civilian you couldn't prosecute since you couldn't establish jurisdiction... there's nothing in the vid that proves where it happened. Since he's military, it doesn't matter... UCMJ applies worldwide.
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Here is the e-mail address of the CO of the base where he is stationed. He welcomes input.
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THAT WAS HYSTERICAL.....LOL
ANY MORE PICS/VIDS LIKE THAT???? I LOVE THAT SHIT. DID YOU HEAR THAT LITTLE BASTARD WHIMPER AS HE FELL TO THE GROUND? SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE ZOOMED IN ON THE REMAINS SO THE SPLATTERED MESS COULD BE SEEN.
BY THE WAY PETA KILLS 75 PERCENT OF ALL OF THE ANIMAL IT "RESCUES"...I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS...
HOW COME NO ONE IS UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE 1.5 MILLION IRAQIS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED AND THE 5 MILLION WHO HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO REFUGEE STATUS BY THIS ILLEGAL US WAR? YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A DOG AND NOT A HUMAN BEING? CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN ON THAT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE WITH YOUR LIFE...
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HOW COME NO ONE IS UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE 1.5 MILLION IRAQIS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED AND THE 5 MILLION WHO HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO REFUGEE STATUS BY THIS ILLEGAL US WAR? YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A DOG AND NOT A HUMAN BEING?
if puppies had oil, maybe it'd be a different story...
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fucking sicko, >:( peta is going to ass rape him. :)
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fucking sicko, >:( peta is going to ass rape him. :)
they're not the only ones, when this guy gets back from that shithole he's gonna have some angry people waiting for him, youtube reaches millions of people.
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wow that was messed up, I don't know the whole story (maybe there is an outside chance he had to kill it as it was sick or going to die form no food like maybe the mother dog had been killed by accident), but there is a lot of better, more human ways to kill an animal then that ( he is in the army he has a gun, or even knock it on the head fast and hard so it is over with) but tie it up and toss it off of a cliff that is messed up, and then you add int he rest of those clips it really goes to show how well the American forces are "winning the average local person over" over there
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Sick Crunt needs a good Fukin kick in the balls and his face rubbed in dog shit.What a tough guy.SICK FUK.
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Article 134...General Article
Unbecoming of a Marine.
It's punishable by the UCMJ
def a 134. brainwashed prick. i would have made him my bitch in my brig. he'd be getting NO FUCKING SLEEP.
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It's an animal, who gives a shit.
If I knew I could upset this many getbiggers with only investing 10 seconds of my time I would have done that along time ago and posted the video.
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It's an animal, who gives a shit.
If I knew I could upset this many getbiggers with only investing 10 seconds of my time I would have done that along time ago and posted the video.
that's because you're a pussy and a coward. :D
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THAT WAS HYSTERICAL.....LOL
ANY MORE PICS/VIDS LIKE THAT???? I LOVE THAT SHIT. DID YOU HEAR THAT LITTLE BASTARD WHIMPER AS HE FELL TO THE GROUND? SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE ZOOMED IN ON THE REMAINS SO THE SPLATTERED MESS COULD BE SEEN.
BY THE WAY PETA KILLS 75 PERCENT OF ALL OF THE ANIMAL IT "RESCUES"...I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS...
HOW COME NO ONE IS UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE 1.5 MILLION IRAQIS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED AND THE 5 MILLION WHO HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO REFUGEE STATUS BY THIS ILLEGAL US WAR? YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A DOG AND NOT A HUMAN BEING? CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN ON THAT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE WITH YOUR LIFE...
I agree, people on here don't give a shit about human life, but are ready to have an armed march over a dog.
If that isn't SICK I don't know what is.
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they're not the only ones, when this guy gets back from that shithole he's gonna have some angry people waiting for him, youtube reaches millions of people.
Yep, the millions of internet geeks will be waiting for him. Get a life.
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that's because you're a pussy and a coward. :D
...and you just had a Meltdown.
SAVE THE PUPPIES !!
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that guys a fucking loser..im not gonna go crazy like i should at the guy but what a fucking prick. Kind of a shame that that low life is in the army, kinda goes to show u that the only people that join the army are poor rednecks white trash ppl who need money. if i saw that guy in person, i wouldnt only shoot him in the head, i'd decapitate the mother fucker and then feed him to my pitbull.
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he needs to be brought up on charges and then have his ass kicked. i don't see how anyone can do that other than michael vick
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that guys a fucking loser..im not gonna go crazy like i should at the guy but what a fucking prick. Kind of a shame that that low life is in the army, kinda goes to show u that the only people that join the army are poor rednecks white trash ppl who need money. if i saw that guy in person, i wouldnt only shoot him in the head, i'd decapitate the mother fucker and then feed him to my pitbull.
Another meltdown...
Maybe you can join Squadfather and have a SAVE THE PUPPIES march on Washington. You can trample some homeless people on the way.
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I agree, I thought it was funny, and its even more funny to see everyone get so upset about it.
It's funny to torture animals, to see them die a painful death? :-\
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It's funny to torture animals, to see them die a painful death? :-\
No, its funny to see you sorry SOB's get all bent out of shape over an animal when you don't give two shits about the men, women, and children that are dieing over there everyday because of the US invasion.
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No Meltdown he is a weak crunt who is so Fukin tough.Anyone who thinks that vid is ok needs to get help.Sick Crunts. ::)
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obviously you need help!
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No, its funny to see you sorry SOB's get all bent out of shape over an animal when you don't give two shits about the men, women, and children that are dieing over there everyday because of the US invasion.
I would have the same reaction if it was a child he tossed.
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storm shaddow you must be a nazi, i get it now, you fucker!
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storm shaddow you must be a nazi, i get it now, you fucker!
oh shit!! you really fuccked up now, "stormshadow" believes in throwing 4 pound puppies off cliffs and torturing them, aren't you terrified of this absolute badass? ;D
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storm shaddow you must be a nazi, i get it now, you fucker!
Nope, just find it disturbing that people will stand up and take action when an animal is killed, but sit back and don't give two shits about human lives being destroyed in a war that we started.
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again you DON"T get it stupid, someone please help this sick asshole out
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This is one thing I'm in complete agreement with Adonis on. I can only pray that somehow someway I have an opportunity to cross paths with this sick piece of shit. They should feed him to a pack of hungry hyenas...
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I would have the same reaction if it was a child he tossed.
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Now THAT would have been cool... so long as the "child" was one of those dirty Mooslims! One less suicide bomber we have to deal with as an adult. Here, kid... you're gettin' your 72 virgins early! :D
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oh shit!! you really fuccked up now, "stormshadow" believes in throwing 4 pound puppies off cliffs and torturing them, aren't you terrified of this absolute badass? ;D
I wouldn't mind pushing you off a cliff, or at least out of your chair in your parents basement.
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This is one thing I'm in complete agreement with Adonis on. I can only pray that somehow someway I have an opportunity to cross paths with this sick piece of shit. They should feed him to a pack of hungry hyenas...
totally agreed, what do you think of pieces of shit who condone this scumbag's behavoir, MS?
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Now THAT would have been cool... so long as the "child" was one of those dirty Mooslims! One less suicide bomber we have to deal with as an adult. Here, kid... you're gettin' your 72 virgins early! :D
I hope you're being sarcastic, but I seriously believe that this is the consensus of many Americans
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Now THAT would have been cool... so long as the "child" was one of those dirty Mooslims! One less suicide bomber we have to deal with as an adult. Here, kid... you're gettin' your 72 virgins early! :D
come on man that's crazy even for you, no child deserves to be treated like that regardless of where they're from, kids are innocent.
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pm me full name of murderer and adress with photograph attached,,i need all 3 and this will be takenb care of
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pm me full name of murderer and adress with photograph attached,,i need all 3 and this will be takenb care of
yes we all know you are a dog lover nasser
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pm me full name of murderer and adress with photograph attached,,i need all 3 and this will be takenb care of
i hope you do GH, this piece of garbage needs to be taken care of.
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pm me full name of murderer and adress with photograph attached,,i need all 3 and this will be takenb care of
John McCain will cuss him out?
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Gh15 taken it up.Nice work and you know what I believe you will do something about this piece of shit.
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John McCain will cuss him out?
GH15 (Nasser) is going to send this guy a fresh pair of his used posing trunks.
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come on man that's crazy even for you, no child deserves to be treated like that regardless of where they're from, kids are innocent.
Give the kid a few years in a madras and he'll kill you as soon as look at you, infidel.
Islam is a disease, period.
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totally agreed, what do you think of pieces of shit who condone this scumbag's behavoir, MS?
Few things actually get me fired up. Killing innocent animals is one of them. In high school, I went surfing with a group of guys to San Onofre. One of them, which I just met that day, thought it would be funny to throw rocks at the little mice that live in the rocks by the water. I told him to stop and he kept going. Well, he hit one and killed it. I then broke his jaw. Of course his parents sued mine for the medical bill. We had to settle because apparently the life of the mouse is not as important as the shit-stain's jaw. I would do it all over again.
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GH15 (Nasser) is going to send this guy a fresh pair of his used posing trunks.
that will teach him!
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pm me full name of murderer and adress with photograph attached,,i need all 3 and this will be takenb care of
make sure it gets filmed and posted on youtube...
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Few things actually get me fired up. Killing innocent animals is one of them. In high school, I went surfing with a group of guys to San Onofre. One of them, which I just met that day, thought it would be funny to throw rocks at the little mice that live in the rocks by the water. I told him to stop and he kept going. Well, he hit one and killed it. I then broke his jaw. Of course his parents sued mine for the medical bill. We had to settle because apparently the life of the mouse is not as important as the shit-stain's jaw. I would do it all over again.
good stuff he deserved it, no excuse for animal or child abuse.
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It is too bad there most likely is no hell.
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Few things actually get me fired up. Killing innocent animals is one of them. In high school, I went surfing with a group of guys to San Onofre. One of them, which I just met that day, thought it would be funny to throw rocks at the little mice that live in the rocks by the water. I told him to stop and he kept going. Well, he hit one and killed it. I then broke his jaw. Of course his parents sued mine for the medical bill. We had to settle because apparently the life of the mouse is not as important as the shit-stain's jaw. I would do it all over again.
Just curious, do you break jaws when exterminators kill innocent cockroaches, or is it only furry animals?
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good stuff he deserved it, no excuse for animal or child abuse.
Does this mean you would punch someone in the face for using a mouse trap?
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Nope, just find it disturbing that people will stand up and take action when an animal is killed, but sit back and don't give two shits about human lives being destroyed in a war that we started.
where are you getting the fact that no one cares about human life?
people do protest about this shit, havent you seen the millions of people marching all over the world, peace rallies etc?
your a fucking twit, dude killed a defenseless animal, i feel the same way about human torture, its just that the topic of the thread is about this video.
if you dont like that ILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SLIT YOUR COCK HOLDING THROAT AND SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH AND BLOW IN YOUR NOSE TO MAKE THE SHIT WARM SO IT MELTS DOWN YOUR THOART WHICH HAS A SLIT IN IT, SO THE SHIT SLIDES OUT YOUR TRACHEA DOWN YOUR SHIRT AND RUINS YOUR SHIRT AND YOUR TOO POOR TO AFFORD A NEW ONE SO YOU HAVE TO PERFORM SEX ACTS TO MAKE MONEY AND YOU SUCK DICK AND KILL PUPPIES, I SMASH YOUR HEAD INTO PIECES.
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Just curious, do you break jaws when exterminators kill innocent cockroaches, or is it only furry animals?
Although it wasn't always so, over the years I have come to grips with the fact that some animals must die for the benefit of mankind. I still put bugs in little cups and put them outside instead of stomping on them, but I won't hesitate to fumigate for termites or to eat steak. There has to be a purpose, justified in my mind.
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where are you getting the fact that no one cares about human life?
people do protest about this shit, havent you seen the millions of people marching all over the world, peace rallies etc?
your a fucking twit, dude killed a defenseless animal, i feel the same way about human torture, its just that the topic of the thread is about this video.
if you dont like that ILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SLIT YOUR COCK HOLDING THROAT AND SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH AND BLOW IN YOUR NOSE TO MAKE THE SHIT WARM SO IT MELTS DOWN YOUR THOART WHICH HAS A SLIT IN IT, SO THE SHIT SLIDES OUT YOUR TRACHEA DOWN YOUR SHIRT AND RUINS YOUR SHIRT AND YOUR TOO POOR TO AFFORD A NEW ONE SO YOU HAVE TO PERFORM SEX ACTS TO MAKE MONEY AND YOU SUCK DICK AND KILL PUPPIES, I SMASH YOUR HEAD INTO PIECES.
Will someone answer me, if I use a mouse trap to kill a mouse is there someone out there that wants to break my jaw?
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Does this mean you would punch someone in the face for using a mouse trap?
I would kill as mouse, just as I would kill a human, if they invaded my home. But, I wouldn't go out and kill anything just for the fun of it. Se the difference?
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i just watched that clip again and i have to say that it looks like there's a chance that the puppy may have already been dead because the yelps and the thud didn't sound real to me, i'm hoping that is the case and that the puppy wasn't alive during that, even if it was deadl already he's till a piece of shit for throwing it.
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Although it wasn't always so, over the years I have come to grips with the fact that some animals must die for the benefit of mankind. I still put bugs in little cups and put them outside instead of stomping on them, but I won't hesitate to fumigate for termites or to eat steak. There has to be a purpose, justified in my mind.
what if i eat a furry cute little puppy dog?
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Although it wasn't always so, over the years I have come to grips with the fact that some animals must die for the benefit of mankind. I still put bugs in little cups and put them outside instead of stomping on them, but I won't hesitate to fumigate for termites or to eat steak. There has to be a purpose, justified in my mind.
What is the purpose for killing an innocent cockroach? Because you don't like them? They are not dangerous.
You do realize that the cow was killed by having its head smashed with a sledge hammer?
I guess this is cool because you find beef to be tasty and that makes it justified?
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adonis why in the fvck are you worried about a puppy the bigger problem is whats to come
quit being a fucking f@ggot seriously i will come kick your ass dude, because you are just as evil as that military guy avoiding the real issues
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009&q=esoteric+agenda&total=47&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
i think you have the ability and drive to get the word out to many
dude watch the fucking video, it talks about a codex that will be in place in 2009 banning all nutrients from food. this is very important
its called "codex alimentarius"
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what if i eat a furry cute little baby dog?
I have a problem with that, but I would not break your jaw over it.
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lmao ;D
on topic: thats fucked up for sure but isn't there worse things to be concerned about than some puppy being killed in Iraq or whatever.
WRONG!
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stormshaddows don't post here anymore seriously, get the fuck out. where the fuck you from asshole
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do we really know if the dog was alive at the time of the throwing?
If it was or wasn't is irrelevant tbh.
he's in iraq fighting a war where innocent or maybe even quilty persons are getting killed or maimed everyday. on both sides. Where is the justice??
Many of you are calling for this man's head on a platter. This is disturbing.
It's a dog!
Sure what he did can be seen as a terrible act. Lets get real here. Putting things into perspective PEOPLE are dying. Wars are being fought and all of you are crying over a dog. What is this world coming to? haha I'm shocked and disgusted at what you people see as important.
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i just watched that clip again and i have to say that it looks like there's a chance that the puppy may have already been dead because the yelps and the thud didn't sound real to me, i'm hoping that is the case and that the puppy wasn't alive during that, even if it was deadl already he's till a piece of shit for throwing it.
So if the dog was dead to begin with, you're suggesting he should be vilified for tossing around road-kill?
Seriously?
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i just watched that clip again and i have to say that it looks like there's a chance that the puppy may have already been dead because the yelps and the thud didn't sound real to me, i'm hoping that is the case and that the puppy wasn't alive during that, even if it was deadl already he's till a piece of shit for throwing it.
DUH !!!
I said that when it was first posted on the politics board. The dog looks stiff, never moved, and the yelps sound like they were added in.
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this dog will not get his justice through a fist fight or vilolence,,he will get it via the hardest harshest wa prosecuter and that prosecutor will be payed via me if this is real footage
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What is the purpose for killing an innocent cockroach? Because you don't like them? They are not dangerous.
You do realize that the cow was killed by having its head smashed with a sledge hammer?
I guess this is cool because you find beef to be tasty and that makes it justified?
You missed my point entirely. I enjoy having a clean, organized and secure home. Any animal that disrupts that whether it's a roach getting into my food or some crack-head trying to steal my shit will be dealt with.
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I have a problem with that, but I would not break your jaw over it.
why? are pigs and cows lives less worth?
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I have a problem with that, but I would not break your jaw over it.
Why? Is a dog more deserving of life than a pig or a cow?
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adonis why in the fvck are you worried about a puppy the bigger problem is whats to come
quit being a fucking f@ggot seriously i will come kick your ass dude, because you are just as evil as that military guy avoiding the real issues
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009&q=esoteric+agenda&total=47&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
i think you have the ability and drive to get the word out to many
dude watch the fucking video, it talks about a codex that will be in place in 2009 banning all nutrients from food. this is very important
its called "codex alimentarius"
adonis why in the fvck are you worried about a puppy the bigger problem is whats to come
quit being a fucking f@ggot seriously i will come kick your ass dude, because you are just as evil as that military guy avoiding the real issues
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009&q=esoteric+agenda&total=47&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
i think you have the ability and drive to get the word out to many
dude watch the fucking video, it talks about a codex that will be in place in 2009 banning all nutrients from food. this is very important
its called "codex alimentarius"
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DUH !!!
I said that when it was first posted on the politics board. The dog looks stiff, never moved, and the yelps sound like they were added in.
Have you ever picked up a dog by the scruff of its neck? They barely move....just as with this dog ::)
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DUH !!!
I said that when it was first posted on the politics board. The dog looks stiff, never moved, and the yelps sound like they were added in.
like i said i just noticed that upon re watching it but it still takes a lousy human being to even do what he did, come on man i know you're not that fuccked up and condemning what he did doesn't mean that people are condoning human beings losing their lives over there either.
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Will someone answer me, if I use a mouse trap to kill a mouse is there someone out there that wants to break my jaw?
take your argument one step further, if you see no difference between and dog and a mouse, what about a dog and horse, and a horse and a human?
why are human lives worth more the animal lives? your humancentric ideology is flawed, we share the planet and it is our responsibility to protect animals as they cannot protect themselves like humans can.
killing humans is wrong, killing animals is wrong at any measure.
there is obviously a difference between humans and animals, moral code should keep people from doing this shit.
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stormshaddows don't post here anymore seriously, get the fuck out. where the fuck you from asshole
That dog was such a pussy. It weeped like a little girl. That guy totally kicked its ass.
You should be locked up for being a fucking idiot... The dog was already dead, the video is a joke...
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Why? Is a dog more deserving of life than a pig or a cow?
I actually have a problem with killing pigs because they are pretty intelligent and displays a wide array of emotions, just as dogs.
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like i said i just noticed that upon re watching it but it still takes a lousy human being to even do what he did, come on man i know you're not that fuccked up and condemning what he did doesn't mean that people are condoning human beings losing their lives over there either.
is he going to burry it and make a little memorial for it?
sure it's bad, it's not the end of the world. There are bigger things than this BS
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watch the god damn video at the 46 min mark atleast
adonis why in the fvck are you worried about a puppy the bigger problem is whats to come
quit being a fucking f@ggot seriously i will come kick your ass dude, because you are just as evil as that military guy avoiding the real issues
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009&q=esoteric+agenda&total=47&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
i think you have the ability and drive to get the word out to many
dude watch the fucking video, it talks about a codex that will be in place in 2009 banning all nutrients from food. this is very important
its called "codex alimentarius"
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take your argument one step further, if you see no difference between and dog and a mouse, what about a dog and horse, and a horse and a human?
why are human lives worth more the animal lives? your humancentric ideology is flawed, we share the planet and it is our responsibility to protect animals as they cannot protect themselves like humans can.
killing humans is wrong, killing animals is wrong at any measure.
there is obviously a difference between humans and animals, moral code should keep people from doing this shit.
The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line? Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice? Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs? Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?
Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.
It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.
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this dog will not get his justice through a fist fight or vilolence,,he will get it via the hardest harshest wa prosecuter and that prosecutor will be payed via me if this is real footage
looks to be real
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I actually have a problem with killing pigs because they are pretty intelligent and displays a wide array of emotions, just as dogs.
So it's perfectly permissible to kill the stupid?
I can get on board with that! Let me start making a list... :D
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Stormshadow makes good points, all which when we question ourselves we realise our priorities on order of us caring about things that die is all screwed up.I can watch a beheading video of an adult human but cant watch a cat or dog have the same done to it.I think it comes down to the fact that the adult is grown up, knew the risks and chose to go to Iraq anyway whereas the animals are totally trusting and love us unconditionally, as any pet owner can attest to, in this way we also see them as children, in that we are looking after them.Likewise I couldn't watch a child be beheaded.As for questioning why we care about a dog and not the million or so civilians that have been killed, again good point, we have just been socialised to accept it as part of war, we just dont ever want to see any of it in our media, out of sight, out of mind.When we do see pictures of Iraqi children with limbs blown off, I think subconsciously we know its very wrong, but as we are powerless to stop a war our own country basically started,we quickly try to forget about it and pretend we never even saw it.Likewise we accept cows being shot in the head because we have been socialised to just accept it because we need to eat it.Senseless killing of things we dont need to kill for any reason angers us.
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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line? Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice? Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs? Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?
Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.
It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.
I draw the line of any animal that is generally domesticated
figure it out jr
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I draw the line of any animal that is generally domesticated
figure it out jr
Great, that's your line.
As you can see from several posts on this thread, some people draw the line more liberally than you do, and some more conservatively. That means anyone who includes more animal types in the "okay to kill" subset than you do is pure evil incarnate, and anyone who includes fewer than you do probably considers you scum of the earth.
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You missed my point entirely. I enjoy having a clean, organized and secure home. Any animal that disrupts that whether it's a roach getting into my food or some crack-head trying to steal my shit will be dealt with.
So basically you call the shots as to what the pecking order is in regards to life? and if I don't agree, or have a different order, then you have the right to break my jaw?
What if a female dog was attacking you and you knew it was pregnant, would you still kill it?
What if you could pick up the mouse and risk getting bit, or just stomp on it and kill it?
I'll stop now, you are so far backed into a corner with your logic that I feel pretty good for exposing this level of stupidity that is substituted for reasoning.
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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line? Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice? Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs? Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?
Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.
It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.
totally agree. people here (dog lovers) just saw this cute little puppy get thrown down the mountain and heard its cute little bark and goes apeshit over it. no rational thinking here. they just think with their emotions..
there are bigger things to be concerned about than this asshole soldier...
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Great, that's your line.
As you can see from several posts on this thread, some people draw the line more liberally than you do, and some more conservatively. That means anyone who includes more animal types in the "okay to kill" subset than you do is pure evil incarnate, and anyone who includes fewer than you do probably considers you scum of the earth.
Goatboy....
This is not kindergarten. Everything can be put a spin on something.
Were not talking about this guy killing a bug, mouse, snake, etcc....
He tossed a puppy.
Stay with the facts.....& stop giving a reason to debate something unrelated.
Especially from a guy that has no opinion on any living creature except for himself.
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So basically you call the shots as to what the pecking order is in regards to life? and if I don't agree, or have a different order, then you have the right to break my jaw?
A very good point, but a fatal human flaw we all have, we all think we are right and our way is justified.
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Goatboy....
This is not kindergarten. Everything can be put a spin on something.
Were not talking about this guy killing a bug, mouse, snake, etcc....
He tossed a puppy.
Stay with the facts.....& stop giving a reason to debate something unrelated.
In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America. You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values. They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.
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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America. You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values. They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.
If a dog is food in Asia, and is killed the same way that we kill a cow (severe trauma to the head, sledgehammer) how is it that one is different from the other?
This type of thinking (false premise combined with flawed argument and lots of emotions) makes me realize how so many Americans can justify pillaging and destruction of other countries because their way of life is not in line with "our" values.
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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line? Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice? Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs? Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?
Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.
It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.
ummmmmmmmm that is my point didnt you read what i wrote?
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Expect this thread to die now that people start to realise by the last 2 pages of discussion that what they have been socialised to think by their culture/country isnt what people in other parts of the world think.
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totally agree. people here (dog lovers) just saw this cute little puppy get thrown down the mountain and heard its cute little bark and goes apeshit over it. no rational thinking here. they just think with their emotions..
there are bigger things to be concerned about than this asshole soldier...
Yeah like stopping this dipshit before he becomes another statistic
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According to a 1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) and Northeastern University, animal abusers are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes than are individuals without a history of animal abuse. (not exactly what we need in the military or in Iraq)
Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.
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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America. You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values. They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.
I believe the young man in the video is AMERICAN ::)
which when you're in the military (even in another country) you're held by the laws of that country & the laws of the United States.
In the United States....abusing animals is not tolerated
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stop being a dipshit george
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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?
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Expect this thread to die now that people start to realise by the last 2 pages of discussion that what they have been socialised to think by their culture/country isnt what people in other parts of the world think.
That's how we make decisions in America. All emotion, no logic, no principles. Then when we are called on it we walk away and watch American Idol.
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I believe the young man in the video is AMERICAN ::)
which when you're in the military (even in another country) you're held by the laws of that country & the laws of the United States.
In the United States....abusing animals is not tolerated
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stop being a dipshit george
You're talking about laws, I'm talking about values and ethics. Two different animals (pardon the pun).
PS: my name ain't george.
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In many asian countries, Dogs are a food animal, no different than a cow or chicken in America. You are trying to apply the standards of suburban America as though they were undisputed universal values. They're not, and if you follow the logic of the arguments you'd see that.
And in those Asian countries it is believe the animal must die a slow and agonizing death and even be cooked still alive because it will taste better.
THAT is the difference.
Some things are just WRONG. Blatant cruelty and suffering is WRONG.
I might not like people eating dogs and cats, but I can accept a cultural difference if they are not being sadistic assholes while doing it.
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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?
*birds chirping*
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I blame this on women.
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And in those Asian countries it is believe the animal must die a slow and agonizing death and even be cooked still alive because it will taste better.
THAT is the difference.
Some things are just WRONG. Blatant cruelty and suffering is WRONG.
I might not like people eating dogs and cats, but I can accept a cultural difference if they are not being sadistic assholes while doing it.
Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country? It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".
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FUCK DOGS ::)
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I blame this on women.
The "soccer mom" syndrome is ruining this country. About 1985 or so America started sliding into the shitter, and it's due in no small part to public policy being made based on emotion rather than logic.
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So if the dog was already dead, and this dipshit is guilty of nothing more than tossing around road-kill, is he still likely to become the next Jeffrey Dahmer once he returns stateside?
Are you so certain the dog was dead?
Also....for shits...lets assume the dog was dead & he videotaped tossing road kill. It's punisable under the UCMJ for acts unbecoming of a Marine. Plain and simple. There's no argument about it. When you become a Marine, one of the things that happen to you during bootcamp is you're sat down & explained what is expected of you. Shit, you can get written up for walking around with your hands in your pocket & wearing a hat indoors. Especially when you're doing so under the pretence of goofing around.
Yes, whats the point of picking up something (dead or alive) & tossing it?
Goatboy, if you truly believe this....your wife married a fucked individual
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You're talking about laws, I'm talking about values and ethics. Two different animals (pardon the pun).
PS: my name ain't george.
when you act like this...you're George
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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country? It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".
That's because dogs look nice. Humans are superficial. That's why a puppy will get treated better than a person, unless that person is really good looking.
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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country? It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".
whats this have to do with a Marine tossing a puppy?
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Have you seen how we slaughter cows and chickens in this country? It's not exactly what you'd call "humane".
I will be the first person to say there are flaws in the slaughter industry, no surprise that it is a problem with the PEOPLE though.
There is a difference between trying to do something humane, and blatantly not trying. Trying to minimize pain and suffering, whereas in Asian countries prolonging pain and suffering is the goal.
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oh shit!! you really fuccked up now, "stormshadow" believes in throwing 4 pound puppies off cliffs and torturing them, aren't you terrified of this absolute badass? ;D
Yeah that fag "stormshadow" he's a real bad ass feels no sympathy for anything. Too bad its not his mother they are throwing off the cliff, then we would see how bad ass he is as he crys like a pussy before they behead him. Real tuff guy, needs to be owned for eternity can never live this one down.
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And Marines aren't in a foreign (or domestic) land tossing alive or dead puppies
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whereas in Asian countries prolonging pain and suffering is the goal.
like women who make guys wait weeks for sex.
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What a fuckin' PRICK! I never thought I'd say this, but I hope an IED rips all his limbs off!
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Are you so certain the dog was dead?
Also....for shits...lets assume the dog was dead & he videotaped tossing road kill. It's punisable under the UCMJ for acts unbecoming of a Marine. Plain and simple. There's no argument about it. When you become a Marine, one of the things that happen to you during bootcamp is you're sat down & explained what is expected of you. Shit, you can get written up for walking around with your hands in your pocket & wearing a hat indoors. Especially when you're doing so under the pretence of goofing around.
I'm not arguing whether he broke marine corps rules or not; on that score I don't know and I don't care.
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I'm not arguing whether he broke marine corps rules or not; on that score I don't know and I don't care.
one thing I can say about you George
at least you're consistant
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one thing I can say about you George
at least you're consistant
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Look, in case you missed it, my point was all these people are who are getting freaked out about a puppy are hypocrites unless they are strict vegetarians who refuse to kill any living creature.
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Look, in case you missed it, my point was all these people are who are getting freaked out about a puppy are hypocrites unless they are strict vegetarians who refuse to kill any living creature.
When was the last time george you yourself walked out to the woodshed & cut the head off your pet chicken?
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Look, in case you missed it, my point was all these people are who are getting freaked out about a puppy are hypocrites unless they are strict vegetarians who refuse to kill any living creature.
hello george, it's about the blatant unnecessary cruelty of the act
that argument doesn't fly, nice try
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Yeah that fag "stormshadow" he's a real bad ass feels no sympathy for anything. Too bad its not his mother they are throwing off the cliff, then we would see how bad ass he is as he crys like a pussy before they behead him. Real tuff guy, needs to be owned for eternity can never live this one down.
meltdown ::)
they should have throw MORE dogs over.
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Yeah that fag "stormshadow" he's a real bad ass feels no sympathy for anything. Too bad its not his mother they are throwing off the cliff, then we would see how bad ass he is as he crys like a pussy before they behead him. Real tuff guy, needs to be owned for eternity can never live this one down.
calm down mary
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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's Super Puppy!
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hello george, it's about the blatant unnecessary cruelty of the act
that argument doesn't fly, nice try
Sure it does when you look at how cows are slaughtered to make those tasty burgers you eat. They get shot in the side of their heads with gas powered hammer which doesn't always kill them. Then they get their throats slit and bled to death.
No different than throwing a dog over a cliff.
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The point is, if you read the last dozen or so posts, where do you draw the line? Okay to kill cockroaches, not okay to kill mice? Okay to kill mice, not okay to kill cows? Okay to kill cows, not okay to kill dogs? Okay to kill salmon, not okay to kill goldfish?
Wherever you draw a line it's arbitrary, and you will almost always vilify anyone who draws the line somewhere different than where you do.
It reeks of hypocrisy, and I hate hypocrites.
um maybe because a dog is a great pet that will love you forever and a cockroach or salmon won't
as you say far too often, hope this helps ::)
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Why? Is a dog more deserving of life than a pig or a cow?
Ok all is forgiven if he walk down the cliff and ate the dog after.
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Wish i didnt watch that :(
Glad to see the Americans are doing good work over there ::)
I dont care what people think, or how some people can justify it, but that is soo fucked up. I seriously hope that guy dies.
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Look, in case you missed it, my point was all these people are who are getting freaked out about a puppy are hypocrites unless they are strict vegetarians who refuse to kill any living creature.
yea, sorry, that's terrible logic.
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LOL, I just posted this on another site and I shit you not, someone popped up and denouned me suggesting the guy could have been given the order to kill the puppy...
I guess it was an insurgent puppy working with Al Qaeda...
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Sure it does when you look at how cows are slaughtered to make those tasty burgers you eat. They get shot in the side of their heads with gas powered hammer which doesn't always kill them. Then they get their throats slit and bled to death.
No different than throwing a dog over a cliff.
So u condone and can justify this action ???. So you would have no problem if i decided to kill ur dog as, according to you, "cows are slaughtered all the time". So because animals that are specially breed to be eaten are humanely slaughtered, that makes it ok to kill other animals?
Oh and last time i checked, most people dont eat dogs, so your point makes no sense whatsoever.
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So u condone and can justify this action ???. So you would have no problem if i decided to kill ur dog as, according to you, "cows are slaughtered all the time". So because animals that are specially breed to be eaten are humanely slaughtered, that makes it ok to kill other animals?
Oh and last time i checked, most people dont eat dogs, so your point makes no sense whatsoever.
Teh TrutH...
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Wow! :o
I'm shocked that one of our soldiers can be so cold-blooded like that to a puppy - just for fun. >:(
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Honestly, although I hear ya....& know what you mean.....
but i don't agree.
This sort of thing can just add more shit to a big problem over there. Especially civilian support for the military.
So it should stay as a "Getbig Topic"?
Damn Knny187, you of all people I thought would think differently.
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I think this dude is one of those guys that tortured animals when he was young. A guy that would have become a serial killer but instead joined up to get his fix.
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Look, in case you missed it, my point was all these people are who are getting freaked out about a puppy are hypocrites unless they are strict vegetarians who refuse to kill any living creature.
that's a big fucking grey area, and don't tell us/me that we're kidding ourselves because although there are some scumbags at the processing facilities where game+poultry+beef+pork are taken.. shit IS done about it if it is found out, 'only if you get caught' right?
fuck this piece of shit for smiling while doing it.
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How much time would one get for offing this guy?
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i'm betting that marine has posted on getbig from time to time, it's a statistical certainty.
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i'm betting that marine has posted on getbig from time to time, it's a statistical certainty.
His name is Jimmy & lives in his parents basement
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should find out where the dude lives and someone from Getbig who lives nearby should cause some "petty torments"
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should find out where the dude lives and someone from Getbig who lives nearby should cause some "petty torments"
David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
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David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
Cut all his fingers of with a blunt knife, to begin with.
Hang him upside down and let him be eaten alive by pigs. Not dogs or wolves because they go for his throat which will cause a fast dead. Pigs, when hungry, just start eating.
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I think the sadistic nature of this act is apparent.
Any reasonable person would come to that conclusion.
I see no reasonable grounds for defending the act of that soldier. None whatsoever.
As for the lynch mob mentality of stringing up this deranged SOB...that's not good either.
I see nothing wrong with bringing this act to the attention of his superior officer, politicians and the general public.
Any way that you look at it, in and of itself, the soldier committed one sick act.
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His name is Jimmy & lives in his parents basement
lol ;D
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Cut all his fingers of with a blunt knife, to begin with.
Hang him upside down and let him be eaten alive by pigs. Not dogs or wolves because they go for his throat which will cause a fast dead. Pigs, when hungry, just start eating.
Hannibal Lecter Style Bitch... FUCK YEA ;D
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I think the sadistic nature of this act is apparent.
Any reasonable person would come to that conclusion.
I see no reasonable grounds for defending the act of that soldier. None whatsoever.
As for the lynch mob mentality of stringing up this deranged SOB...that's not good either.
I see nothing wrong with bringing this act to the attention of his superior officer, politicians and the general public.
Any way that you look at it, in and of itself, the soldier committed one sick act.
out of the way, lynch mob on the way >:(
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I'm not justifying the guys actions, I in fact think that it was pretty fucked up, but it's pretty easy to sit back and talk shit about how evil someone is for doing something like that but on the other hand have no idea what these guys go through on a daily basis. Essentially you have to disconnect your emotions, in fact shut them off completely, when are you in combat. Otherwise it could cost you or more importantly other soldiers lives. These guys have been over there getting shot at on a daily basis, close friends getting blown to shreds by IEDs, it's war, plain and simple and unless you've been in it you have no idea what these guys go through.
Again, I'm not justifying what the guy did, but just take a look at it from a different perspective.
Stop saying " I'm not justifying " because u ARE !! When I think that people like u get to positions of power it makes me cringe...
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