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I was looking at the cutest sun conure today. He was sitting on my finger. :D He was still green and just starting to get some yellow. I've always wanted a bird, I resisted and made the smart decision and bought a book on them instead. ;)
So what's it like having a bird? Pros and Cons, but especially the cons.
Anybody have a conure in particular?
:)
PS- when he had to go back in his cage I could here him squaking as I walked away - I think he missed me ::)
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PS- when he had to go back in his cage I could here him squaking as I walked away - I think he missed me ::)
he probably just wanted a second chance to pee on ya !
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he probably just wanted a second chance to pee on ya !
he already pooped on my hand :D
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he already pooped on my hand :D
and how did that make you feel ?
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alot of noise
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My sister and her husband used to have an Amazon. Apparently they like one person at a time. After it stopped liking my sister, it was out of it's cage one time and flew into her hair and got tangled up. After that she was terrified of it.
Once I was there and her husband let it out of it's cage and she was afraid so she sat on the floor on the other side of the living room. It spotted her and opened it's wings and ran across the room toward her shrieking CAW! CAW! She jumped up and ran into the kitchen almost starting to cry. It was hilarious!
They also had/have a Green Winged Macaw. It is really a beautiful bird and very loving and smart. They actually snuggle w/it. I taught it to say "poopy." 8)
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Please delete geo's asshole-ish remark. >:(
Sun Conure don't get very big, not like an Amazon.
He/she was pretty cool sitting on my finger looking around, making some noise. :D
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I has an Amazon I got talked into it
I ended up giving it back
She was loud and noisy
Someone taught her to say / sing "Rita , oh Rita , hi Rita , ohhhhhhhh RIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTAAAAA , awwww rita " then laugh hysterically !!!!!
she'd do it for like 10 minutes straight , with no reason
like just break out in song :(
>:( >:( >:(
she was messy throwing food all over too
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I has an Amazon I got talked into it
I ended up giving it back
She was loud and noisy
Someone taught her to say / sing "Rita , oh Rita , hi Rita , ohhhhhhhh RIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTAAAAA , awwww rita " then laugh hysterically !!!!!
she'd do it for like 10 minutes straight , with no reason
like just break out in song :(
>:( >:( >:(
she was messy throwing food all over too
Yeah, they can be shrieky and scream a lot. And yes, they can be extremely messy :(
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C'mon... know one owns a bird here? :(
Would it be creepy if I just went and visited him? ::)
The girl I talked to (for about an hour) has 15 birds and seemed to really know her stuff! She was talking about how they will go through an adolescent phase and try and get away with stuff, it was cool. :)
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is that your finger Arsenio?
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Hopefully i'll be taking ABVP-Avian Specialty boards within the next two years, if I can get my case reports accepted by the credentialing committe. I'm boards eligible, I just have to jump through the hoops and get time to study, so take what I say how you want too.
As a bird owner, i have two of them. A 29 year old Amazon and an 8 year old African Grey. They are both very special in their own right. The amazon is mean as a snake, but funny as hell. He'll take your finger off and laugh at you while he does it. I didnt own him for the first 26 years of his life so he's got some bad habits (like moaning loudly like a woman having an orgasm and answering anything that remotely sounds like a telephone). he is very partial to blond females and hates all men if there is a woman close by. He hates men so bad he'll go after them and bite the shit out of them---which is why the previous owner got rid of him and why my wife is not allowed to open the cage when I'm in the shower----his 1 lb pissed off ass coming out from under my bed trying to bite my toes right after I got out of the shower and only wearing a towel and a smile was not a fun time in my opinion.
The grey is a trip becuase she cusses like a sailor thanks to my wife and her potty mouth. She's much nicer than the amazon. ;)
A few things about birds in general:
1) birds will bite. The conure you are looking at is capable of taking a nice nip out of your hand. It will hurt and it will bleed. Be prepared to be nipped at least once
2) birds are messy, its the nature of a bird to make a mess while eating. You won't be able to change that
3) birds can be very noisey, depending on the species. Not all birds talk and not all birds scream. You can train them to talk, you can train them to scream, and they can make a lot of noise.
4) birds take time and attention. By nature the birds in the pet trade (psittacines) are flock birds. If a human takes on the role of the birds flock, you will have a bird that loves to interact with you. At the same time, there are birds out there that will kill a weaker member of the flock because its for the better of the flock to keep predators away. If you are percieved as being that weaker member, you and your bird will never be happy with each other.
5) most birds don't like to cuddle and be hugged on, but most birds can be trained to like a gentle scratch on the back of the head.
6) most bird species in the pet trade live a long time--some of them 40 to 60 years. The conure you are looking can easily live 20 years. Getting a pet bird is a long term commitment. Be prepared for that commitment.
7) birds have their own opinions. If you own a bird who decides it hates you, you are in for a very long road. Generally you will not be able to convince it to change its mind once that mind is made up
8) Humans have a very real allergy to bird dander---all birds, not just "downy" birds like cockatoos and african greys. Be aware of this allergy, especially if you have other allergies.
9) Most of all, bird in the pet trade--specifically psittacines---are intelligent animals. They do best in an evironment that challenges them to think about what is going on around them. They are also prey species, so the fight or flight response can be very strong. Give them something to think about, but don't scare them.
Let me know if you have specific questions.
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PS- when he had to go back in his cage I could here him squaking as I walked away - I think he missed me ::)
Sorry to burst your bubble Flower, but that was a conure. They all squawk. ;)
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Sorry to burst your bubble Flower, but that was a conure. They all squawk. ;)
he wasn't squawking til he was put back in his cage. >:( He was chattering nicely on my finger. :D
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thanks for the info Vet, you said a lot of the things the girl did, especially attitudes, and being stubborn and if you let them get away with something they will continue to do it.
That's why I left with a book instead of a bird. ;)
The other one was already full yellow, she/he was about a year old. She told me that that one you already had an idea of it's personality, but the other one was still in the cute baby stage and he could be totally different when he got older and went through adolescent stage.
Definitely something to think good and hard on before deciding.
I don't think I could ever have a big bird, I think it would scare me. These are a nice size.
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Hey Vet- what about birds and dogs. I know don't leave them together unsupervised but that is a major concern of mine.
When both birds were out a few dogs walked by and neither was concerned, nor when people walked by, I'm sure being in the petstore they are used to noise, but what about a big ole Dane head looking in the cage. Now the girl told me that the bird would probably fluff itself up and make noise at the dog and to let it know it means business because that would teach the dog to back off. I just wouldn't want a bird all stressed out or something. She said the bird might even through stuff at the dogs for amusement, lol! Do I think my dogs would want to eat a bird, no, but they would be fascinated by it of course.
She said the bird shouldn't be shut away from the household in it's own room so I would want it downstairs, I wonder if it would find it fun to annoy the dogs all day? ::)
That's why I wish you could do a test, just to see if the dynamics would work or be a total disaster.
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That's why I wish you could do a test, just to see if the dynamics would work or be a total disaster.
that's a great concept , it would have saved me $300
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Doesnt Ozgirl have a bunch of them? she hasnt been around in a long time though. If you look on Craigslist you can usally find birds for free. 8)
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Doesnt Ozgirl have a bunch of them? she hasnt been around in a long time though. If you look on Craigslist you can usally find birds for free. 8)
??? Why free? I don't think you should ever give an animal away for free unless you know the person. There are a lot of strange people out there that would do something horrible, so maybe if someone is willing to pay for the animal it has some kind of value.
Since you used the 8) face I am thinking you mean something completely different then what I think? >:(
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The only birds were turkeys:
http://rochester.craigslist.org/grd/573809693.html
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I know someone who has one. His name is Skittles ;D He's very cuddly.
I also know someone with a Lovebird. He's sweet and does not make much noise at all. He's very pretty.
My grandmother had a parakeet for 10 years named Peanuts. He had quite a vocabulary and he'd sing songs and whistle for the dog ;D.
None of them seem to be much trouble.
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he wasn't squawking til he was put back in his cage. >:( He was chattering nicely on my finger. :D
Sun Conures are cute little birds. If trained right and bonded with the owners, they can be a whole lot of fun. Squawky fun, but fun still. ;)
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thanks for the info Vet, you said a lot of the things the girl did, especially attitudes, and being stubborn and if you let them get away with something they will continue to do it.
That's why I left with a book instead of a bird. ;)
The other one was already full yellow, she/he was about a year old. She told me that that one you already had an idea of it's personality, but the other one was still in the cute baby stage and he could be totally different when he got older and went through adolescent stage.
Definitely something to think good and hard on before deciding.
I don't think I could ever have a big bird, I think it would scare me. These are a nice size.
I personally like the big birds, they are easier to handle and less likely to die if you hold them----I had a caique do that one time, I'm still a bit freaked out by that bird dying. All I did was a physical exam, drew blood, the intern trimmed the birds beak, it looked great, was perching chatting away, then looked sort of funny and fell over dead.
respect African Greys for their intelligence and I just think Hyacinth Macaws are gorgeous birds. My all time favorite though are Andean Condors (gorgeous HUGE wingspans) and Marabou Storks ( I swear, if they were human, they'd be Italian from Brooklyn or Statin Island). They are just awesome. fortunately you will never see either of those birds outside of a zoo situation.
Birds will definitely go through a maturation phase---the "terrible twos" which for some species lasts 4 or 5 years. That said, remember that all birds have the basis for their personality by the time they are fledged and weaned. Birds mature really fast relative to some other species. The basis of their personality will be there (ie will the bird be nippy, will it be easy to train, does it value affection, etc) you will just shape it into what comes out, or ruin the bird through that maturation phase.
You can also teach old birds new tricks. Remember, they are intelligent animals, so even one that is set with very bad habits can often times be reached and may make a very good companion in the right household.
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??? Why free? I don't think you should ever give an animal away for free unless you know the person. There are a lot of strange people out there that would do something horrible, so maybe if someone is willing to pay for the animal it has some kind of value.
Since you used the 8) face I am thinking you mean something completely different then what I think? >:(
I'd never take a bird for free unless i knew the owner very well and there was an examination by a qualified avian veterinarian done including blood work, chlamydiophila testing, and a fecal gram stain. Free birds are a recipe for disaster, especially if you own other birds. I've seen too many owners take a free bird into a house with other birds where the new bird looks great for 2-3 days, then becomes very ill. The next thing you know, all of the birds are sick. Birds are masters at hiding disease, with some of them doing it amazingly well. Remember, the sick bird is th weak bird and a weak bird is a dead bird in a flock. Its the nature of the animal to hide disease.
Also, remember, birds carry diseases like chlamydiophila which is transmitted very easily through feces (meaning you'll get it when you clean the cage). They also carry other diseases.
Finally, many free birds are free for a reason. Theres an old saying, you don't give away your best horse. A bird is being given away for a reason. Uncontrollable squawking and biting are probably the most common problem followed a close second by destructiveness or aggression. A free bird is often very likely to have behavioral problems and because they are a bird, they may be problems that will take a tremendous amount of effort to address.
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Hey Vet- what about birds and dogs. I know don't leave them together unsupervised but that is a major concern of mine.
When both birds were out a few dogs walked by and neither was concerned, nor when people walked by, I'm sure being in the petstore they are used to noise, but what about a big ole Dane head looking in the cage. Now the girl told me that the bird would probably fluff itself up and make noise at the dog and to let it know it means business because that would teach the dog to back off. I just wouldn't want a bird all stressed out or something. She said the bird might even through stuff at the dogs for amusement, lol! Do I think my dogs would want to eat a bird, no, but they would be fascinated by it of course.
She said the bird shouldn't be shut away from the household in it's own room so I would want it downstairs, I wonder if it would find it fun to annoy the dogs all day? ::)
That's why I wish you could do a test, just to see if the dynamics would work or be a total disaster.
My grey used to drop food out of her cage. My male pit would crawl under the cage and eat the food. When he turned his back to her, she'd yell "TEDDY!!!" in my voice. The dog jumped every time, hitting his head on the cage catch trays. My bird laughed like an idiot, would wait 10 to 15 minutes and then do it again. I was a dumbass for not getting video of those two when Teddy was alive.
Now she yells at all of the dogs---tell them to "get in her dammit, its cold", "Supper time", calls their individual names with explicatives involved---Ie HORTON, DAMMIT!!!, tells them to shut up when they bark, makes barking noises at them when they are quiet, asks them "Who is it" in my wifes voice to make them bark" and tells them to sit. My dumb old boxer would stand in front of the cage and stare at the bird. Bird would make fart noises like the boxer does, laugh loudly, then tell him "FEN, SIT, SIT, SIT.....good boy" in my voice. I laughed my ass off the first time the boxer sat down and looked at me confused. The poor old guy wasn't the smartest, especially with the Bird.
I am giving you those examples because I think dogs and birds can get along great under adult supervision in the right household. Dogs can also kill birds in a heartbeat, so I would never, ever leave my bird out unsupervised with a dog around, even if I knew the dog very well. My wife and I got our first bird when we were in veterinary school. He was a senagal parrot, that just adored my wife. I don't know if you know anything about senagals, but they are tough little shits. Typical African parrots. Anyway, my wife was doing a preceptorship at a local small animal practice and I was doing one at a local zoo with us both staying at her parents house. The bird had been in the house for 5 weeks with no incidence from my mother in laws German Shepard. The dog would let the bird sit on her head and never once showed any signs of aggression.
My wife and sisterinlaw came home and let the dogs out, then decided to run into town to get some food from Hardees. In the ~13 minutes they were gone (it was about a 3 mile drive) the dog tore the birds cage apart and literally mauled the bird. The bird fought back as best it could but an 85 lb dog vs a 150 gram parrot isn't a fair fight, although the dog still has scars from the bird bite wounds. My wife walked into the house to find bird feathers everywhere, the dog frantically pawing at the carpet by the couch, and her bird huddled under the couch taking its dying breaths. It was not a good situation. It also left a lasting impression on me. Through the years I've seen several dogs who interacted great with birds (my own included) but I've also seen some hideous injuries to pet birds from dogs and cats both. I'd never trust a bird and a dog or a cat alone together. All it takes is one nip from the bird or the bird trying to fly and the dog or cat could be on it. Then it could very well be all over.
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The other one was already full yellow, she/he was about a year old.
This has been bugging me.
Did she tell you that the bird you saw would become a yellow bird when it was mature?
A golden conure is an endangered species of all yellow conure. They are also known as a "queen of barvaria conure". Sun conures have a predominantly green plumage when immature and develop the distinctive yellow, orange and red coloration on the head, abdomen, and back as they mature.
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This has been bugging me.
Did she tell you that the bird you saw would become a yellow bird when it was mature?
A golden conure is an endangered species of all yellow conure. They are also known as a "queen of barvaria conure". Sun conures have a predominantly green plumage when immature and develop the distinctive yellow, orange and red coloration on the head, abdomen, and back as they mature.
when I said full yellow I knew I should of corrected that, it was the coloring of the one pic I posted, and had the red, and orange coloring also. The younger one was mostly green but you could see his head was starting to get the other colors. Sorry, I knew I should of changed my wording.
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Birds will definitely go through a maturation phase---the "terrible twos" which for some species lasts 4 or 5 years. That said, remember that all birds have the basis for their personality by the time they are fledged and weaned. Birds mature really fast relative to some other species. The basis of their personality will be there (ie will the bird be nippy, will it be easy to train, does it value affection, etc) you will just shape it into what comes out, or ruin the bird through that maturation phase.
She first took out the older bird. She (I call the yellow one she and the green one he ;D) was more difficult to get out of the cage and kept leaving her finger for some before she decided to sit and hang out (she actually broke a blood feather). I did not take her until she had stopped trying to fly off, and when I did she was fine. The younger one came right out and never once tried to "fly" off my finger. He just seemed calmer, she referred to it as still being in a "baby stage" which in a way he looked more like a baby in his mannerisms, ok i know I am giving human traits to an animal, but he just seemed more baby like, like he wanted to stay where he was safe. The girl said that he might change as he got older and be a completely different bird. Neither bird was nippy and went from hand to hand easily. That was my first time handling a bird which is why I thought the older one would be better for me, but I think the younger one might be.
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The girl at the petstore told me how you whisper to the bird to show it how it needs to not be so loud, and how you can give it a time out in another room (not in it's cage because a cage should not be associated with being bad) and basically dealing with it like a growing child pushing it's boundaries.
She was really informative and I probably can't remember half of what she said, but it was nice to see a pet store person so knowledgeable. This is a private owned store, not a chain. And the birds appeared to be very healthy and happy.
I went in to get a collar for Briona and ended up talking birds for an hour! I won't go to Petco or Petsmart for anything anymore, only well kept private stores that appear to care for the animals.
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You're right ~flower~ going into a pet shop that is private and the people are smart about the pets is extraordinary .
You'd think it would be the norm , not the rarity :-[
I think you're going to end up getting a bird :D
So why not just get the cage and set it up some now and let your other housemates start getting used to it , just asking cuz I know you're gonna get one , I just can sense it :)
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The girl at the petstore told me how you whisper to the bird to show it how it needs to not be so loud, and how you can give it a time out in another room (not in it's cage because a cage should not be associated with being bad) and basically dealing with it like a growing child pushing it's boundaries.
She was really informative and I probably can't remember half of what she said, but it was nice to see a pet store person so knowledgeable. This is a private owned store, not a chain. And the birds appeared to be very healthy and happy.
I went in to get a collar for Briona and ended up talking birds for an hour! I won't go to Petco or Petsmart for anything anymore, only well kept private stores that appear to care for the animals.
I wouldn't leave a psittacine in a "time out" unsupervised. Thats a recipe for a bird that is misbehaving to destroy something or worse yet get injured and bleed.
What I've found works best is just be patient. Birds will push their boundries, its the nature of an intelligent animal. You cannot punish a bird in response, they will respond negatively and try to kick your ass----with many of them being successful and you bleeding as an end result.
A couple of "older ways" of disciplining a bird that do not work in my opinion---tappin on the head if they bite you. All that does is make most birds try to bite you harder becuase they want to grab the moving finger.
Yelling at a bird will not work----think like a bird for a second, birds make lots of noise when they are excited and happy. A person yelling at them is obviously happy and excited, so they should be too. I always had to laugh at the clients who had birds who screamed who then would scream back at the bird and the bird would scream back at the owner. There was one in particular with an Umbrella Cockatoo who was flat out hysterical. The bird would scream, the owner would scream back and it'd go back and forth and back and forth. The bird thought it was a great game. I couldn't stand to be in an exam room with them without ear plugs, but it was funny.
Time outs are one of the better methods of managing behavior problems, but even that may backfire becuase some birds simply don't want to be handled, so they learn to bite the crap out of you or yell or whatever so you put them in a time out and they get some peace and quiet away from humans.
The bottom line is be patient. If you can unlock the secrets for postitive reinforcement of behaviors with your bird, the sky is pretty much the limit for what you will be capable of teaching the bird to do.
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Flower, also because this bird is from a petstore, I'd make damned sure to get a 2-4 week health guarantee and take the bird to a qualified avian veterinarian ASAP after purchasing it (if you do buy it). Make sure the bird gets a fecal gram stain and physical exam (blood work is recommended, but in reality is probably optional) and consider chlamydia testing.
Its not that I think the petstore is "bad" but remember birds are very capable of hiding severe disease until they are knocking on deaths door. Petstores are stressful environments, so they will hide how sick they may be if they are sick.
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I wouldn't leave a psittacine in a "time out" unsupervised. Thats a recipe for a bird that is misbehaving to destroy something or worse yet get injured and bleed.
I believe, and again it was a lot of info I was trying to digest, the TO would be in another room in a different cage with dimmed lighting and mainly used for when it was being an overly squawking teenager. When it was quiet and behaved he could join the family again. Time outs were not to be used for everything, like you said working with the bird not just punishing it would be a better approach, but if it decided it just wanted to scream for hours just for the heck of it that would not be good.
On the biting she mentioned that birds use their beaks a lot as a foot, so learning how your bird does that will help prevent mistaken bites, and the bird instinctively bites harder if the object moves away, so when it is climbing on your finger using it's beak you get to know that. Both of the birds used their beaks and I could hardly feel it.
I was going to look around and see what avian vets are around here also, and had planned on a visit shortly after if I got the bird, but thanks for the reminder. That is a specialized field? I believe you said you were working on getting that? So most dog and cat vets would not be where you would want to take a bird?
So, what about vaccines? ::) I don't know if they are supposed to get any, but I do know that birds are more susceptible to some diseases so if there are bird vacs you might just convince me to consider some or all. 8)
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You're right ~flower~ going into a pet shop that is private and the people are smart about the pets is extraordinary .
You'd think it would be the norm , not the rarity :-[
I think you're going to end up getting a bird :D
So why not just get the cage and set it up some now and let your other housemates start getting used to it , just asking cuz I know you're gonna get one , I just can sense it :)
It was nice w8m8, I think she could of gone on for hours and hours and she really touched on a lot of stuff and wasn't just like only concerned to sell me a bird. I think a bird is a big commitment and decision so I was glad for her expertise.
I have found on previous visits to this store that the employees all seem to be like that so even though they may be a bit more expensive (not by much) I would rather spend my money there than in the big chains. Granted I don't go to petstores that much since I feed raw, but I still do need other items occasionally.
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What about Love birds?
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What about Love birds?
I think they would be too boring for me. And I don't think they like to be handled?
Hey Vet- I was re-reading your bird stories - they are pretty funny!!
I mentioned an African Grey at the store (the conures were the only bigger birds there) and she said she wouldn't recommend it as a first bird. I had considered one years ago.
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I believe, and again it was a lot of info I was trying to digest, the TO would be in another room in a different cage with dimmed lighting and mainly used for when it was being an overly squawking teenager. When it was quiet and behaved he could join the family again. Time outs were not to be used for everything, like you said working with the bird not just punishing it would be a better approach, but if it decided it just wanted to scream for hours just for the heck of it that would not be good.
Yeah, that would work fine.
On the biting she mentioned that birds use their beaks a lot as a foot, so learning how your bird does that will help prevent mistaken bites, and the bird instinctively bites harder if the object moves away, so when it is climbing on your finger using it's beak you get to know that. Both of the birds used their beaks and I could hardly feel it.
The using the beak as a hand analogy is a really good one. Thats actually by and large the "biting" I was talking about. It happens all too common that a bird will reach out with its beak to touch an owner, the owner will freak because they are "getting bitten" and try to pull away, the bird bites down harder becuase it doesn't want to not touch the owner or worse yet, the owners movements cause it to loose its balance and it feels as if its falling, the owner bleeds.
That said, there is a very distinct difference between a bird "tasting" and "touching" and a bird biting the crap out of you. ;)
I was going to look around and see what avian vets are around here also, and had planned on a visit shortly after if I got the bird, but thanks for the reminder. That is a specialized field? I believe you said you were working on getting that? So most dog and cat vets would not be where you would want to take a bird?
Where are you living at again? I may be able to give you a recommendation on where to go. Yes, avian medicine is a disstinct veterinary speciality (different from poultry medicine) recognized by the AVMA. The specialists are American Board of Veterinary Practitioners: Avian. A good avian veterinarian does not have to be a board certified specialist, they just need to be up to date on information about birds. As a minimum I'd check to see that the are a member of the American Association of Avian Veterinarians---this is the association that publishs the Journal of Avian Medicine and Surgery and gives the annual conference (which is a week of continuing education on up to date avian medicine and surgery topics).
I know several "dog and cat" vets who are good avian veterinarians becuase they take the time to learn about the uniqueness of the avian species. I also know a few who claim to be "avian" veterinarians who are first class fuck ups when it comes to how they deal with avian patients.
Check your PM's too, I sent you some information.
So, what about vaccines? ::) I don't know if they are supposed to get any, but I do know that birds are more susceptible to some diseases so if there are bird vacs you might just convince me to consider some or all.[/color] 8)
I dont' see a reason to vaccinate a pet bird in a situation like this. A vet who tries to tell you otherwise is trying to make a buck or they are thinking of something I'm sure not thinking of.
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I don't have any pm's from you? ???
I'm in Rochester, NY and there is a guy listed on the aav.org site and in the yellow pages I found a few with DABVP after their names (the guy from the aav site does not have that). So it would appear that there may be a few to choose from.
The big beak bites is why I think the bigger birds would not be for me, at least not as a novice. When she told me about using there beaks, which I was aware of, but not the part about they will bite harder if you jerk your finger away, I made sure to let the bird let go and get situated and wasn't concerned about it. :)
I'm glad to hear that birds don't get vaccinated. ;D
I might have to go visit him again. I could end up looking like a weirdo but I would rather have someone being serious in a decision like that then going "wrap him up!"
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???
http://www.djfeathers.com/ForSale/flightsuit.htm (http://www.djfeathers.com/ForSale/flightsuit.htm)
(http://www.djfeathers.com/Images/flightsuit/DSCN0747%20(Small).JPG)
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saw the birdies yesterday :D
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Are they close by to you can you go a few times ? , they ( the salespeople) should really appreiciate you going at this the right way.
I think a few visits will be great and also help you feel more at ease handling them , I'm impressed by you ~flower~ in many ways.This is just one. :D
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This has been bugging me.
Did she tell you that the bird you saw would become a yellow bird when it was mature?
A golden conure is an endangered species of all yellow conure. They are also known as a "queen of barvaria conure". Sun conures have a predominantly green plumage when immature and develop the distinctive yellow, orange and red coloration on the head, abdomen, and back as they mature.
I found an ad for one, beautiful bird:
http://www.birdbreeders.com/birds-Conures-Golden_Conure-FL-9590.aspx (http://www.birdbreeders.com/birds-Conures-Golden_Conure-FL-9590.aspx)
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Are they close by to you can you go a few times ? , they ( the salespeople) should really appreiciate you going at this the right way.
I think a few visits will be great and also help you feel more at ease handling them , I'm impressed by you ~flower~ in many ways.This is just one. :D
Yes, they are close. I am going again after work and might not be empty handed when I leave. 8)
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Yes, they are close. I am going again after work and might not be empty handed when I leave. 8)
It is beautiful....and $2000!
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It is beautiful....and $2000!
STella that's not the bird I am looking at lololz!! When I said the older one was yellow Vet wanted to make sure I wasn't being told it was a Golden Conure.
But the Golden Conure is a gorgeous bird, but I think the Sun's are too! :)
(http://z.about.com/d/birds/1/0/D/-/-/-/PC100011.JPG)
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beautiful!
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You should get a red headed wood pecker
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You should get a red headed wood pecker
They do have Cherry-headed conures.
(http://www.avianweb.com/images/birds/parrots/conures/cherryhead.jpg)
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whatever bird you buy is gonna have panic attacks and be mean as a snake with all those dogs you have running around its cage everyday
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whatever bird you buy is gonna have panic attacks and be mean as a snake with all those dogs you have running around its cage everyday
I bet it would mess with them actually. Plus one good snip on the nose would teach em!
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I bet it would mess with them actually. Plus one good snip on the nose would teach em!
absolutely...
between the noise and jealousy factor ?
that bird could screw up the whole dynamics of the flower household.
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dynamic....
now there's a word that best describes the situation
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I think Tad may eat the bird ( he's an awesome warrior ) then of course he would act innocent .
It would be a mystery forever , they're tight you know , they'd never rat on each other .
He handles a deer leg like it's a milkbone !!
maybe you could use a padlock when you sleep ~flower~ ?
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dweetir (until he/she is sexed and I can come up with the official name) is home and chilling. The dogs have gone right up to his cage and he just looked at them. No barking or squawking (for now) but my dogs do not have a high prey drive so they are more curious than wanting to "get" him.
I'm sure it will get more interesting, but so far I think we're off to a good start.
Will take some pics while the dogs are eating and they won't be blocking me.
:)
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absolutely...
between the noise and jealousy factor ?
that bird could screw up the whole dynamics of the flower household.
I used the word dynamics when debating getting a bird because keeping the dynamics cool is the way we roll!!
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OH OH OH ;D ;D awwwwww "dweetir" good name !!!
I was joking about Tad I knew they would all love each other
I already envisioned Dweetir taking rides on the crew !!
How cool ~flower~ this is going to be one great bird :D
Congrats !!
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:D
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dweetir's hatch day (?) was 11/24/07 so he is almost 4mos old. I guess when his is around 6 months he will get more of the yellow.
He knows "step up" because they handle them alot at the store, so that is good.
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OH OH OH ;D ;D awwwwww "dweetir" good name !!!
I was joking about Tad I knew they would all love each other
I already envisioned Dweetir taking rides on the crew !!
How cool ~flower~ this is going to be one great bird :D
Congrats !!
Well dweetir decided he wanted to flap down to the couch and Tad was on it (the big dogs were outside, it will be some time before I have him out with them) and Tad zoomed over to check him out and I told him leave it. dweetir didn't seem to care, nor does he care that they look in his cage.
Danes can be big oafs so they need to get used to him.
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I already envisioned Dweetir taking rides on the crew !!
You did not.
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he's pretty cool lookin
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dear amy
I've been doing a lot of research on your bird and you'll be glad to know that it's life span is between 20-30 years...
if you have any other questions about your bird feel free to ask
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dweetir
ha haaaaaaaa!! ;D
Dweetir is beautiful Flowey :)
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It has happened among almost every pet bird owner. They buy a bird, start calling it “Charlie”, and much to their surprise they awake one morning to realize that Charlie laid an egg. What happened? The dilemma is not one that is easily solved. Birds in general do not show external sexual characteristics. The males favor the females and vice versa. So how do you tell a male bird from a female bird? Unless you are trying to breed your bird it doesn’t matter what the bird’s sex is.
If you were breeding your bird, there are several options to determine the sex. One is by observation. There are no such things as male behaviors or female behaviors, but if the bird lays an egg than you know you have a female. The female’s ability to do this is independent of having a male nearby. Sometimes females will lay infertile eggs spontaneously. If you prefer and want a more concise way of identifying the sex there is the technique of DNA sexing. This technique analyzes the bird’s red blood cells to determine the presence of male or female chromosomes. Any age bird can undergo this testing and it only takes one drop of blood. For the most part this technique is reliable and relatively inexpensive. The blood sample taken from the bird is sent out to a lab for identification. Results can take up to o three weeks to come back from the lab. DNA fingerprinting is also available for birds, but it is less common.
Surgical Sexing is also available for birds. Of all the modern methods available, this is the oldest and quickest way to determine the sex. A tool known as an endoscope is passed into the body cavity. The bird is placed under a general anesthesia. With this tool either ovaries or testes are seen and alas you have the sex of the bird. There is an advantage to this technique in that when the veterinarian has the endoscope inside the bird, it can reveal the overall health of the bird. This is an expensive technique. It also places stress on the bird. An experienced avian veterinarian can usually do this technique at a minimal risk.
Fecal Steroid Analysis is another technique. This requires that the bird be sexually mature. A stool sample is analyzed for the presence of reproductive hormones.
Feather Sexing is conclusive in determining sex if you retrieve the feather pulp from a growing feather. The feather is analyzed for the presence of male or female chromosomes. The sample needs to be sent to the lab in an ice pack by overnight mail.
For most pet birds, there are general guidelines to determine the sex of the bird. These guidelines are based on the physical characteristics of the bird and should only be used as a guideline, because there are exceptions to every rule. For most people, however, they are enough to satisfy their need to know.
In parakeets there are ceres, which are small dots on the bird's beak. In mature male parakeets the ceres are bright-bluish; the female ceres are reddish-brown. When the birds are young, it is difficult to tell because the ceres of both sexes are pale blue.
In the cockatiel, males are generally great singers. Female cockatiels have been known to talk but are generally quiet. The male cockatiel has bright orange cheek patches. The females also have orange cheek patches but they are dull in color. These again are only guidelines. In other birds it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between a male and female. The only reliable method for these birds is to take it to an avian veterinarian and have it done diagnostically.
For most people it doesn’t matter if the bird is male or female. The bird has become a part of their family, and a Charlie can easily become to be called Charlene. For breeders and people that just have to know, there are techniques available as discussed above. As with anything it is important to discuss any concerns you have with your avian veterinarian.
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Looks like the bird is striking a forearm pose
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dweetir is a very kewl name, interesting and unusual... lol. :D
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Flower...wondering how the morning went w/dweetir et al
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Laura, I thought it was a good temporary name and I hoped it would bring a smile to your face. :) :-*
STella- Check your phone ;)
dweetir hung out upstairs on his playset that I put on a chair. Since the dogs are barred from the upstairs he can enjoy his morning out with me before work undisturbed and safe. It is so cool to see the look on his face as he goes into new areas, they really are very interested in everything around them.
Here's him on his playset:
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Dweetir did bite me, but not a mean nasty attacking bite, but a bite to show he didn't want to leave his cage but he would because he had to, and when he used his beak as a foot he used it harder than he had to. Since I was already forewarned I ignored it and didn't pull away so he didn't think he won and get into the habit of doing it whenever he doesn't want to do something or doesn't get his way. It is a tiny scratch.
I stopped and picked him up some fresh foods: broccoli, parsley, mustard greens, red yellow & orange peppers, and organic bananas. I was going to get some grapes but they were from Chile and I thought I heard they sprayed something on them? I will be trying to go organic for him whenever I can. I also got a box of 7 grain whole wheat pasta in the cork screw shape (vet I can give him that cooked or uncooked correct?) and I couldn't find any unsalted sunflower seeds I wanted to get him for treats, so I did buy a bag of the parrot mix that has sunflower seeds, and peanuts, corn, red peppers and maybe some other stuff. That will be for treats.
He's going to be very spoiled. I wanted to bring the book in so I could use the section on fresh foods as a grocery list but I figured they would think I stole it and/or I was a weirdo so I will make a copy of that page. ::)
STella- I will be having the blood DNA sexing test done.
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bird 1 - flower 0
Think he would like a deer leg?
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Stella alerted me to the fact that you have a new bird named DWEETIR. ;D ;D ;D
He/she's a beauty!!! You can't change the name now though, no matter what the sex. Dweetir is a great name for this bird!!
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bird 1 - flower 0
Think he would like a deer leg?
no flower - 1 because bird came out of cage anyways. :)
He might like a deer leg as a perch :D
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Stella alerted me to the fact that you have a new bird named DWEETIR. ;D ;D ;D
He/she's a beauty!!! You can't change the name now though, no matter what the sex. Dweetir is a great name for this bird!!
I think it's gonna change when "it" has a confirmed gender. But it is hard to think of names since I don't have the gender to help me get a "vibe" on the name.
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I think it's gonna change when "it" has a confirmed gender. But it is hard to think of names since I don't have the gender to help me get a "vibe" on the name.
That bird looks like a DWEETIR to me, if I've ever seen one! :D
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how about spelling it in Emmett fashion:
Dweettir
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how about spelling it in Emmett fashion:
Dweettir
Emmett's name has each letter twice so it would be:
DDwweettiirr or some variation. ;D
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Emmett's name has each letter twice so it would be:
DDwweettiirr or some variation. ;D
Dweetirtwid
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Emmett's name has each letter twice so it would be:
DDwweettiirr or some variation. ;D
I like it
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Dweetirtwid
lmao!
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Once you find out the sex -- Mr. Dweetir or Miss Dweetir :D
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Once you find out the sex -- Mr. Dweetir or Miss Dweetir :D
I agree! :D
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Once you find out the sex -- Mr. Dweetir or Miss Dweetir :D
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I was ::) at how persistent everyone is being on the name ;D
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what the hell is a dweetir anyways?
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What's gonna be funny is when I take him for his health check and they ask for the name and it will go:
desk person: And what is the bird's name?
me: uhm....it's dweetir for now.
desk: dweetir?
me: yes, dweetir.
desk: could you spell that?
me: sure, but I will need some good meds first ;D
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What's gonna be funny is when I take him for his health check and they ask for the name and it will go:
desk person: And what is the bird's name?
me: uhm....it's dweetir for now.
desk: dweetir?
me: yes, dweetir.
desk: could you spell that?
me: sure, but I will need some good meds first ;D
Call me and I'll spell it for her on Monday. I'll be on some great meds then. Electro Cardioversion. :(
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What's a dweetir? Do you mean tweeter?
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Call me and I'll spell it for her on Monday. I'll be on some great meds then. Electro Cardioversion. :(
BE SURE TO TEXT ME ;D
I'll be praying :-*
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LOL....Dweetir is Sweetie on lots of drugs. ;D
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LOL....Dweetir is Sweetie on lots of drugs. ;D
thankd for clarifying
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Will do Stella (you too Rip).
Thank you dweetir. :-*
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Will do Stella (you too Rip).
Thank you dweetir. :-*
hey!!! no me? Me and Dweetir gets no update? >:(
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Will do Stella (you too Rip).
Thank you dweetir. :-*
Yes be sure to update us! :-*
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don't get it.....whats it ghetto slang?
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hey!!! no me? Me and Dweetir gets no update? >:(
Flower, I don't have your number to text you.
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don't get it.....whats it ghetto slang?
Laura was all high on drugs when she was in the hospital, and she texted stella "thankd dweetir" instead of "thanks sweetie" and it kind of stuck. Who woulda thunk it would be such a PERFECT name for a bird. ;D
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Laura was all high on drugs when she was in the hospital, and she texted stella "thankd dweetir" instead of "thanks sweetie" and it kind of stuck. Who woulda thunk it would be such a PERFECT name for a bird. ;D
Well, she would never forget me. That's for sure :)
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Flower, I don't have your number to text you.
durrrr! ::) i will pm i to u. :D
dweetir is on my hand as i typing with one hand.
he is a bit peeved that hr had a bath, but i thin he's over i now. and he won't eat any of the fres stuff i bought this morning. >:( it's been a bit chaotic though cause i had dog food to bring in and do the freezers and stff. so maybe over the weekend we will work on thins more. :P
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seems like he's effecting your typing
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Maybe he'll learn to type too.
Probably won't be able to tell the difference between his posts and flowers
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Maybe he'll learn to type too.
Probably won't be able to tell the difference between his posts and flowers
Possibly, birds are very intelligent. ;D
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dweetir is a very kewl name, interesting and unusual... lol. :D
You know, I need to work on naming my animals more. My greys name is Bird. I'm Birdbird or BIRDBIRDFUCKER to her. Its simple and easy to remember, but not the best of names.
My Amazons name is Tamale and he loves to yell, HOT TAMALE, HOT TAMALE, GETTEM HOT, HOT TAMALE when he's in a good mood (which is rare, hes such a grumpy old bastard ;) ). Its seriously annoying but funny.
Flower, the bird looks good in the pictures you posted. I got your messages, but I've been hammered at work the last two days with some serious emergencies. I should get a chance later tonight to sit down and answer your questions. I'm not ignoring you, I just haven't had time to do much of anything except run around like an idiot who'd lost their special nickle and bouncy ball.
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Thanks Vet!! And thanks for letting me pick your bird brain! ha - that's a joke. ;D
dweetir did not do a good job of keeping an eye on the dogs yesterday. Addie moved the baby gate that I lean against he couch arm that she has destroyed and she worked on it some more. >:( I think I have finally smartened up and I zip tied the baby gate to the arm so it can not be moved. There is no stuffing in that arm anymore, it is chewed leather over the wood frame. I suppose I could roll a towel or something under the leather flap and give it some cushion now that she can't get to it? ::)
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Awww , in all fairness to dweetir I'm sure there were a few firm words said but Addie prolly just felt the newbie has no real clout yet !
I'm looking forward to these stories .
I'm thinking dweetir is just a baby still so the new fresh foods you have will be an adjustment , plus I think they have some individual taste preferences and some things they just don't take a liking to.
I can't wait to know his/her first word(s).
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I think it will be some time before he talks, and SUns aren;t the most talkative.
But i love lil dude or dudette :D
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baby gate
I hear people should be very careful around those things :)
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I hear people should be very careful around those things :)
They should!!! >:(
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dweetir had another bath this morning and it went so much better. He seemed to enjoy it. I put the kitchen faucet on a nice warm slow shower and he sat on my hand under it. He got nine in wet. They I put him in a towel and dried him a bit, then brought him upstairs. He is sitting on another play gym (he now has upstairs one, one for the kitchen, and on that came on top of his cage. I turned the blow dryer on warm and low and dried him a bit. I read that it is okay to use a blow dryer but it can dry out the feathers and skin if used to much, but it is winter and colder here so I thought getting him to "just damp" would be fine. He didn't seem bothered by it. As you can see in the pics he is still damp.
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He's still being picky about eating fresh foods and pellets, that is going to be a slow process. He did eat some apple this morning. He only got fresh foods, I hung some mustard greens, brocolli, and parsley, like a sprig in his cage and put some banana and apple in his bowl. Then he has his pellets (Zupreem Natural, Harrisons Hi- Potency, and Tops Organic) in his other bowls. No seed mix!! When he gets piss later on for dinner because he is "starving" I will put some of his seeds at the bottom of the bowl under his fresh foods and pellets and he will have to dig through the other stuff to get them. ;D
With the pellet foods I ordered (they came in yesterday and I ordered Thurs! That was fast service!!) They included 3 little sample hand toys. 2 little balls out of that stuff they like to tear apart (wicker?) and a small toy with the leather string and some chew and baubles on that he had a good time sitting on my leg playing with while watching tv. I will have to get more of those because in the stores you can really only find hanging cage toys or blocks.
At one point Briona, Tad and the bird were all with me in the chair. So far the dynamics in the house are smooth. ;)
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Great service from that company !! nice pics ,dweetir's so colorful, thanks for the update...incredibly smooth dynamics :D
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I luff dweetir. ;D I'll be thinking of the little guy tomorrow as I go under anesthesia.
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dweetir ate only fresh foods and pellets today! - Yeah!! He likes the Zupreem Natural (I threw out the colored stuff) and I think the TOPS, hard to tell with the Harrisons because they are so small. He like cauliflower (organic) get all over his beak, yams (organic), I think carrots, and some of the greens, not sure what he was picking out. He ate for some time, his head bobbing up and down the whole time. :) I am trying to get organic if at all possible.
Then when he was done (he was eating out of a bowl on top of the cage play top) I was standing there deleting stuff on my phone and he walked down the little steps and came over and started chewing on my phone, he wanted attention after his meal.
I have cut up a whole bunch of fresh foods for the next couple days that I can just add some warm stuff too (I made 16 bean soup minus any seasoning) and add some fruits. This will save time from doing it twice a day.
So I think we are making some good progress. (he's trying to get the keys of the keyboard so I guess I'm done here!!)
We'll be thinking of you tomorrow Laura - I hope it goes well!! :-*
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dweetir ate only fresh foods and pellets today! - Yeah!! He likes the Zupreem Natural (I threw out the colored stuff) and I think the TOPS, hard to tell with the Harrisons because they are so small. He like cauliflower (organic) get all over his beak, yams (organic), I think carrots, and some of the greens, not sure what he was picking out. He ate for some time, his head bobbing up and down the whole time. :) I am trying to get organic if at all possible.
What size Harrisons did you get? The pellets for a bird his size aren't "tiny". You should be feeding a High Potency Fine because this is a "weaning" bird you are trying to convert from seed. You could also feed Adult Lifetime fine or Coarse once the bird is established. If you have any sort of a problem with Harrisons, call their customer service number on the bag. They used to (and I'm pretty sure they still do) send sample packets for things like what you posted. Just talk to their customer service reps. If they give you the run around, PM me and I'll call them for you.
Then when he was done (he was eating out of a bowl on top of the cage play top) I was standing there deleting stuff on my phone and he walked down the little steps and came over and started chewing on my phone, he wanted attention after his meal.
I have cut up a whole bunch of fresh foods for the next couple days that I can just add some warm stuff too (I made 16 bean soup minus any seasoning) and add some fruits. This will save time from doing it twice a day.
So I think we are making some good progress. (he's trying to get the keys of the keyboard so I guess I'm done here!!)[/color]
We'll be thinking of you tomorrow Laura - I hope it goes well!! :-*
Remember, this is a baby bird you got from a petstore. Its going to have to explore the world around it--like chewing on the phone, tasting your keyboard, etc. Up until this bird was brought home, you can more or less bet the world was quiet until ~9 AM when the staff got there and unlocked the doors. Then the lights would come on and the noise would stop. People in and out all day long, new noises, smells, scary dogs, annying kids, etc. Then, the end of the day, the lights go out and no sounds until it repeats again the next day. If you think of things that way---like a psitticine who knows the world is out to get him, moving to a "normal" 'quiet" house is one hell of a shock.
Also be patient with this bird shifting ot whole foods. Right now its in a scary new household, its more than likely going to hold onto what he knows is safe--including seed in his diet. Let him explore the new world and be patient with the conversion. The old, 1/4 for 3 days, 1/2 for 3 days, 3/4 for 3 days, converted works for some birds that are in established households, but its much more difficult with birds that aren't established. Sometimes it'll take longer, sometimes less.
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I got the Harrisons Hi-Potency fine because he is under 6mos. They are really tiny compared to the Zupreem or Tops, he doesn't have to hold him in his foot to eat so that's how I can't tell when he is chewing one. I believe that he is eating them, he seems to like the Zupreem first choice. I appreciate the offer on calling Harrison's. So how long to keep him on high potency, 6-8 months? edit: He is eating Harrisons, it's just hard for me to pinch a pellet in my fingers to give it to him and see if he eats it or drops it - lol. The Tops I don't think he cares for. I will keep adding it to the mix since I have it, but if he doesn't like it by the time it is gone I will just give him the Zupreems and Harrisons. I actually ordered from http://yourparrotplace.com/ (http://yourparrotplace.com/) so I could order both Harrions and Tops together and save shipping.
After we went back downstairs later he went back to town on his fresh food! He had zero seed yesterday and was an eating machine! :) I will be giving him some seed, but I probably won't for a few days since he is eating so good on the pellets and fresh (he is crunching away and talking as he is eating his pellets now) and then give him some seed a day so his main diet will be pellets and fresh food.
hahaa - on this house being quiet! Well it probably is for the most part during the day, but when I am home it isn't!! :)
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Here's me last night sitting in the recliner with Briona on my left (she always sits in the chair with me unless I am eating) Tad at my feet, and dweetir on my lap on the bird poop protection towel!! lol
dweetir doesn't care if they are near him. Except maybe a few times when I was standing and he was on my hand and Emmett came over. Then he seemed a bit unsettled. I do the "finger over a toe" trick she showed me at the pet store so if he started to freak and flutter I have a hold of him. A couple of times he has let me know that is not necessary by beaking me, but I informed him it was even if it was for my own sanity. :)
One time he did get to the floor, he came down from his play top on top of his cage and the dogs just looked at him, didn't rush him, kind of acted like it was no biggie. I'm not really afraid they will bite him, but a big Dane paw could really hurt him. Briona usually looks at him like he really is unworthy of her attention and bores her. The same look she gives me when I tell her she has to go out and go potty and she finds me a petty annoyance to be ignored. ::)
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Here's me last night sitting in the recliner with Briona on my left (she always sits in the chair with me unless I am eating) Tad at my feet, and dweetir on my lamp on the bird poop protection towel!! lol
hahahaha! What a crew!
Good stories and pics Flower, keep them coming :)
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LOL omg I love dweetir. :D
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hahahaha! What a crew!
Good stories and pics Flower, keep them coming :)
you ever get "the eye" from the doggies STella? They won't even move their head, just one eye gracing you with it's gaze. Sometimes Briona will wag her tail but still not move anything else but one eyeball. I have to threaten to "Superfly" her ass to get her to move.
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I don't think dweetir likes getting up at 6am. ::) I went to work late because Addie had to go in to get her blood drawn so no sense going back and forth, so I gave dweetir another bath. He likes them. :) And his light fluff blow dry afterwards till slightly damp.
But when I get home :o SQWUAK SQWUAK SQWUAK!!
and when it was bedtime he was ready to go into his cage and decided he could just fly off my hand into it ::) so I caught him and he beaked my hand pretty fricken hard!! >:( Didn't break the skin but he got me in a soft spot. >:(
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I don't think dweetir likes getting up at 6am. ::) I went to work late because Addie had to go in to get her blood drawn so no sense going back and forth, so I gave dweetir another bath. He likes them. :) And his light fluff blow dry afterwards till slightly damp.
But when I get home :o SQWUAK SQWUAK SQWUAK!!
and when it was bedtime he was ready to go into his cage and decided he could just fly off my hand into it ::) so I caught him and he beaked my hand pretty fricken hard!! >:( Didn't break the skin but he got me in a soft spot. >:(
dweetir is saying "where the hell you been biatch!" >:(
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dweetir is saying "where the hell you been biatch!" >:(
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lolozzz ..
~flower~ TY I needed this thread today :-* :-* :-*
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dweetir is saying "where the hell you been biatch!" >:(
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lol!!! This morning (since I got to go in late) I did the treadmill so I put dweetir on top of his cage on his play perch and I could see he was dozing off but every once in a while he would say something. He needed some coffee I could tell.
I'll have to get of video him squawking, he does it just to do it. ::) I can see why they say don't get one if you live in an apartment. ;D
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There's a guy that lives in the townhouse diagonal from mine. He has two Maccaws (I think they are called). And sometimes he will put their HUGE cage outside and they squawk like crazy.
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One time I was little and my Mom was in the backyard hanging out laundry , the neighbors ( they were new ) had a backyard that met ours ,there was big hedges in between the property .
You couldn't see from yard to yard , so my Mom heard this "girl" yelling for help and then saying "Oh No" , well when the "girl" yelled for help the 2nd time my Mom yelled back "what's wrong can I help you ? " The "girl" started saying "Oh No" again and there went Mom thru the hedges like a bulldozer .
Come to find out they had a huge red and green parrot that could talk really good
my Mom was not happy :D Dad laughed his azz off when he came home and heard , thought it was safe to laugh too when he did ::)
we had cereal for supper :-[
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One time I was little and my Mom was in the backyard hanging out laundry , the neighbors ( they were new ) had a backyard that met ours ,there was big hedges in between the property .
You couldn't see from yard to yard , so my Mom heard this "girl" yelling for help and then saying "Oh No" , well when the "girl" yelled for help the 2nd time my Mom yelled back "what's wrong can I help you ? " The "girl" started saying "Oh No" again and there went Mom thru the hedges like a bulldozer .
Come to find out they had a huge red and green parrot that could talk really good
my Mom was not happy :D Dad laughed his azz off when he came home and heard , us kids thought it was safe for us to laugh too when he did ::)
we had cereal for supper :-[
I like cereal. :D When my mom was pissed at us...we had no supper. :-\
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nice looking bird flower.
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nice looking bird flower.
thanks dp. :)
now go guess it's sex and come up with a name. :D
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thanks dp. :)
now go guess it's sex and come up with a name. :D
It's name is Dweetir, silly ;D
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It's name is Dweetir, silly ;D
Dweetir Silly. ;D
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Dweetir Silly. ;D
;D